“Dazed and Confused” was composed by folk singer Jake Holmes, then rearranged for the Zep by Jimmy Page.
“Black Mountain Side” is a variation on a traditional song called “Black Water Side” arranged by Scottish folk guitarist Bert Jansch. Jimmy Page altered the original chord structure slightly and gave himself sole credit for the song.
The lyrics of “Whole Lotta Love” are borrowed liberally from “You Need Love,” a Muddy Waters song composed by songwriter Willie Dixon.
Willie Dixon also composed “Bring It On Home” recorded in 1963 by Blues legend Sonny Boy Williamson II.
The tune of “The Lemon Song” is from Howlin’ Wolf’s 1964 “Killing Floor” but not properly attributed for years.
“Since I’ve Been Loving You” was originally recorded by Moby Grape in 1968 as “Never.”
“Stairway to Heaven” appears to’ve borrowed (without attribution) from “Taurus,” an instrumental passage from American West Coast band Spirit’s 1968 debut album, credited to guitarist Randy California.
@chuckf1 Yeah. “Way overrated” by every FM DJ of the late 60’s who played it virtually non-stop. But i’ll give you Teenage Wasteland, though i always felt “My Generation” was better.
@Kyeh@pmarin I was just reading that bit in The Guardian about how Merry Clayton sang on the studio recording… but since it turned out so bad for her I was surprised that she would perform live with them.
It also said that Merry didn’t really want to sing about rape and murder…. Since I’ve never heard this song before now (and all I was hearing was “It’s just a shot away”), I realized I needed to read the full lyrics. (It’s much faster than listening through the entire song again.)
The female vocals were sung by session singer Merry Clayton.
but then
On the 1969, 1972 and 1975 U.S. tours as a straight ahead hard rock song without female accompaniment, it didn’t return to the setlist until 1989 when Clayton’s vocal turn usually went to Lisa Fischer.
Most importantly, at 6:25 in that live recording above, she is announced as “Lisa… the Maharani of Soul.”
Therefore I tend to think the lineup was:
Merry Clayton sang on the studio recording (in 1969)
no women, from 1969-1989
Lisa Fischer sang for the live tours (1989 onward)
So if you’re looking to track down her voice, it’ll depend on whether you prefer the studio recording or the one in the live performance.
Really?!? Well, I’m glad you’ve heard it now! I would probably put it at the top of my own personal list of all-time greatest rock songs.
But if course you’re right, the woman in the video isn’t Merry Clayton; I missed that; I just chose that video because it’s better to watch than the original record version. And Lisa is great too, but Merry’s voice is something else, it has such a kind of desperate wailing quality to it, really haunting.
Led Zeppelin is my pick. I was told that I kicked to the drums while in my mom’s belly. I’ve been making excessive amounts of noise ever since! My real pick would be Black Sabbath, the first 2 albums. Honestly not a fan of the zeppelin vocals.
@f00l I think you saw LZ in the 60s, not the 50s (typo strikes again!)
I had a coworker who just happened to attend this concert - she had no idea who they were:
Led Zeppelin’s first concert in the United States was on December 26, 1968 at the Auditorium Arena in Denver, Colorado
And wow, I’m envious of all the concerts you’ve seen!
The Who didn’t steal their most famous don’t
@spitfire6006006
Missing something?
The Zep seems to’ve ‘borrowed’ liberally from other artists without proper attribution - until being sued into doing so.
Per musicinfluence.com
“Dazed and Confused” was composed by folk singer Jake Holmes, then rearranged for the Zep by Jimmy Page.
“Black Mountain Side” is a variation on a traditional song called “Black Water Side” arranged by Scottish folk guitarist Bert Jansch. Jimmy Page altered the original chord structure slightly and gave himself sole credit for the song.
The lyrics of “Whole Lotta Love” are borrowed liberally from “You Need Love,” a Muddy Waters song composed by songwriter Willie Dixon.
Willie Dixon also composed “Bring It On Home” recorded in 1963 by Blues legend Sonny Boy Williamson II.
The tune of “The Lemon Song” is from Howlin’ Wolf’s 1964 “Killing Floor” but not properly attributed for years.
“Since I’ve Been Loving You” was originally recorded by Moby Grape in 1968 as “Never.”
“Stairway to Heaven” appears to’ve borrowed (without attribution) from “Taurus,” an instrumental passage from American West Coast band Spirit’s 1968 debut album, credited to guitarist Randy California.
Both, but LZ tripped out more when that was my music scene.
@phendrick My bad. That link was supposed to be
THE classic:
BUT iron butterfly good also from that epoch.
The Who. Tommy. 'Nuff said
The Who. “Teenage Wasteland”. One for the ages.
The Zeps “Stairway to Heaven”. Way overrated.
@chuckf1 Yeah. “Way overrated” by every FM DJ of the late 60’s who played it virtually non-stop. But i’ll give you Teenage Wasteland, though i always felt “My Generation” was better.
@chuckf1
Also, LZ’s “immigrant’s Song” needs to be in this conversation.
@chuckf1
Nope. No such song. The title is Baba O’Riley
@chienfou You are correct! And I mis-titled the song.
@chuckf1
No problems… I see that ALL the time!
LED ZEPPELINNNNNN
And THE STONES
@Kyeh yeah that’s good. Who was the female singer joining them?
@pmarin Merry Clayton. It was kind of a tragic experience for her, sadly:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/apr/08/gimme-shelter-left-a-dark-taste-in-my-mouth-merry-clayton
@Kyeh @pmarin there’s a great documentary called “20 feet from stardom” that talks about Merry and many other backup singers. Highly recommend
@catthegreat @pmarin Thanks, I’ll check that out.
@Kyeh @pmarin I was just reading that bit in The Guardian about how Merry Clayton sang on the studio recording… but since it turned out so bad for her I was surprised that she would perform live with them.
It also said that Merry didn’t really want to sing about rape and murder…. Since I’ve never heard this song before now (and all I was hearing was “It’s just a shot away”), I realized I needed to read the full lyrics. (It’s much faster than listening through the entire song again.)
But getting to the point, https://genius.com/The-rolling-stones-gimme-shelter-lyrics#about says
but then
Most importantly, at 6:25 in that live recording above, she is announced as “Lisa… the Maharani of Soul.”
Therefore I tend to think the lineup was:
So if you’re looking to track down her voice, it’ll depend on whether you prefer the studio recording or the one in the live performance.
@pmarin @xobzoo
But if course you’re right, the woman in the video isn’t Merry Clayton; I missed that; I just chose that video because it’s better to watch than the original record version. And Lisa is great too, but Merry’s voice is something else, it has such a kind of desperate wailing quality to it, really haunting.
All That Remains
Both have some great songs but I gotta give it to Zeppelin because there are just so many more songs from them that I love to listen to.
had some who tickets fall into my lap a few years ago and they were real good!
Led Zeppelin is my pick. I was told that I kicked to the drums while in my mom’s belly. I’ve been making excessive amounts of noise ever since! My real pick would be Black Sabbath, the first 2 albums. Honestly not a fan of the zeppelin vocals.
@edguyver14 I too am a drum enthusiast. I’ve been playing drums for > 50 years and will never master or even compare to the art of John Bonham.
@accelerator @edguyver14 The comments about the drummer are fun.
Doctor Zeppelin? Never heard of him.
But now I’m thinking about when the Doctor was going to duel with an ax, so his companion tried to track him down before he got himself killed.
And then this:
@xobzoo Anachronisms!
Pink Floyd.
@ETFrisco This is the way.
Petra.
All the above.
As an advocate of peace and wellbeing of musical instruments, I must side with Led Zeppelin.
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/pete-townshend-hates-led-zeppelin/#:~:text=The guitarist showed his fury,just never ever liked them.
Who’s on first, what’s on second, I don’t know is on third.
Dave Matthews Band covering Led Zeppelin! Carter Beauford is a truly amazing drummer!
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(I was at this show, but not my video
I’ll take ‘em all.
I saw LZ in thr 50’s. 5th row center tix were $5 or so.
Loudest concert ever attended. Couldn’t hear properly for a week or so.
Robert Plant wore the tighest pants I’ve ever seen that weren’t simply leggings.
So tight I couldn’t figure out how he moved around. Tho he did.
They were insanely great
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I’ve seen the who and the stones so many times I’ve lost count
I haven’t seen the stones for about a decade. I’ve been out of town or they’ve been too far away or I wasn’t in the mood to spend all that money.
And I like, and we put up with crowds far less than I used to
I haven’t seen the who in about 30 years.
All those shows were worthwhile none of them sucked
I especially hope the stones just keep going and going and going
/youtube beast of burden live
/youtube tumbling dice live
/youtube baba o’Reilly live
/youtube led zep live
@f00l I think you saw LZ in the 60s, not the 50s (typo strikes again!)
I had a coworker who just happened to attend this concert - she had no idea who they were:
And wow, I’m envious of all the concerts you’ve seen!
@Kyeh
Yeah 60’s. I think I saw them in 1970 maybe.
Maybe ‘71.
@Kyeh
Also I figure that as long as Keef is alive and kickin’ maybe I will be also.
/giphy keith richards
@f00l I hope you both will …
The Who aren’t thieving bastards.
@Pavlov
So are they non-thieving bastards?
/giphy “battle of the bastards”
