I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again. You can only take off so many clothes before the cops are called. You can always add an extra layer or a blanket if you’re cold.
@kjady but you can only put on so many clothes before you can’t move. I’m from the East Coast, I prefer the heat to the cold, plus I keep the I live @ around 78f during the warmer months, around 68-70 during the short colder months!
@mycya4me I live in the midwest. I will take -20 degrees over 110 degrees any day of the week. I will admit that I run hot and only wear boots and/or a heavy parka once the temps get to the negatives.
I’m very blonde and very white. I burn extremely easily, even with sunblock. I hate sweating and if it’s too hot, that feeling of not being able to cool down or not being able to drink enough water.
I love winter, I love the cold, and really love the shorter days and long nights. Also the bugs die and I can’t state how much I love that.
@kjady@mycya4me
I’m from the Midwest too (mi) and I prefer the heat to the cold. Until I was 27 I lived in a house with no ac, granted it was on the lake but I had the back bedroom so it was hot in the summer and cold in the winter. I hated the winter and always having to be under the blankets to feel warm. Im just used to being outside and enjoying the warm weather, we only get it so many months a year.
@kjady@Star2236 when I was growing up, We did NOT have AC. My parents had a LOT of window fans! It was sucking the air out at one end of the House & the other to pull it in to create a flow stream of air. I learned after we got AC to keep temp low in the cold months (68-70 F) & higher in the warmer months (78-80f) that way there was not as bigger shock coming in & it cut down on energy cost.
When it gets super cold and lots of places there’s this s*** on the ground called ice. Which is scary and can cause you to fall and trust me you don’t want to fall even though you probably will at some point in time in your life
@Cerridwyn My main complaint with cold weather is the associated driving conditions. And walking conditions, I guess. (Until you mentioned it, I’d forgotten about the dangers of unintentionally walking on ice.)
@Cerridwyn@vfrdirk I do have to say I love all the YouTube videos of people just trotting down their icy steps in flip flops. Well really only halfway down their steps.
In the winter I can use clothing or blankets to get warm, no extra charge. In the summer I need my air conditioner and my electric bills are over $600 in a small house. Thank you, PG&E.
People who vote for summer don’t know what super cold is. I’ve seen -30F. Actual temp, not wind chill. That’s 100 degrees below what people consider comfortable.
I’ll grant you, it’s easier and cheaper to heat the inside than cool it, and yeah nobody should live where the temperature gets below zero, but also nobody should live where it gets above 100, and where there’s no water. I’ve been to Vegas and that sucks year round like winter does here.
2Bfair I can acknowledge that it’s easier to add more clothes than remove more clothes, so colder has more solutions than hotter. But 100 degrees below comfortable… Before wind chill…
@Superllama7 I vote summer sucks worse and I live in MN. We get a week or so every winter where the still air temperature is -10, -20 or -30F on the low end and doesn’t rise above 0F during the day. And still, I’d rather run the snowblower in that than run the lawnmower on a 90+ degree day braising in the humidity that accompanies living in the land of lakes.
@Superllama7@vfrdirk@Kittykat9180 I’ve lived in NW Ontario where -40 to -60 below at night is common and -20 below during the day is common where 5 above can feel like a heat wave… and we had to use an outhouse… and I’ve lived in FL where I worked taking kids from jail canoeing across the state of FL in the middle of summer with the hot sun beating down and too many gaitors and poisonous snakes in the water to go swimming… and I currently live where the weather service now claims low 90’s with high humidity is cool…I’ll take the cold over the heat any day.
You can acclimate to both so that the hot doesn’t seem quite as hot and the cold doesn’t seem quite but as cold but as someone said above, you can only take off so many clothes and you sure as heck can’t take off your skin. At 40 to 60 below you do need boots with enough insulation, including on the soles (so you don’t feel the cold from the ground) but I found a heavy down jacket with a lighter one under it and, what as kids were called ‘snowpant’ that our parents would put on us to play outside in the snow, work pretty well to keep you warm. Yes you need a scarf or something else to cover your nose/lower face, heavy gloves or mittens, and yes you can get ice on your eyebrows, etc. but dressed appropriately it is fine.
@Kidsandliz@Superllama7@vfrdirk, I didn’t do a whole lot of running when I lived in FL, it was too hot and humid most of the time. But I wouldn’t be running in negative temps either.
@kittykat9180@Superllama7@vfrdirk Actually, having lived in 6 countries (well plus the USA) and 19 states what I like best is states with sunshine and 4 distinct seasons. Where I am now we have hot, hotter, fucking hot and native here claim it is seriously freezing at 40 degrees. Um nope. Weather here sucks except that we have more sunshine (although that is not appreciated when it is 97 degrees and 99% humidity) than in the Great Lakes area.
@werehatrack don’t want live where there are water shortages. And only 10” of snow is not enough. I want enough to cross county ski and downhill ski. Don’t want 5 months is snow though.
@Kyeh Agreed. But I have lived most of my life in a relatively temperate area (NW Oregon). Rarely either hot or cold to the extreme. The hottest I have experienced here was 120F (just a couple years ago) and the coldest was somewhere around -5F (when I was a teen). And those were only notable because it was so rare.
@Kyeh@macromeh Houston is considered to be unacceptably hot in the summer, and sometimes even I will admit that the heat and humidity combination is unworkable for anything but snoozing in the shade with a light breeze. But I grew up in Miami, and I moved here in 1981 for its cool, dry climate (by comparison), its not-dead-flat terrain (by comparison), its wonderful change of seasons, its lack of murderous traffic (again, by comparison), and its friendly and welcoming bilingual multicultural denizens who will work with you if you don’t have a good grasp of their language. Miami is, in my opinion, one of the best places in North America to be from. Very, very FAR from.
@macromeh 120??!!! It’s never gotten that high anywhere in Colorado according to the temperature sites I looked at just now! The highest I found was 115 at some dam in the SE part of the state. Crazy to think that the PNW could get that hot! @werehatrack I guess it’s what you’re used to; I wouldn’t want to live either of those places.
@Kyeh@werehatrack I think the official (record) high in Portland was 116F in June 2021. The 120F reading was seen (and felt!) by me on my front porch in direct late afternoon sun on that day. Quite a shock going from inside my air conditioned house into that inferno.
(What was truly unbelievable was that they held the Olympic track & field trials in Eugene OR during that heat wave!)
@werehatrack@yakkoTDI The clouds and lack of green trees are part of a beautiful desolation. I was at a time in life when I needed something and that morning made me feel happy and alive. I don’t feel I need that now (don’t worry) but am grateful for the experience. It seems the opposite of how most people would process it.
Of course it was good to be on a 4WD truck and camper (with heat) so I knew I could get out. Nobody there except a small herd of deer when I drove in the night before.
There are green trees up in Medicine Bow National Forest not that far away.
In the west, I loved 110 degree dry heat; jump in a pool. In NEPA and SoEast the humidity is the worst no break so the freeze is best. /showme a hot Palm Springs
@kittykat9180 well definitely not 72C! That would be bad! 25 C is a bit warm for me. You are right 25F is really nice for a morning walk or run. I don’t run but like to walk and I need to do it more. Only thing that can be bad at temps like that is if there’s a cold or misting wind, and if your ears or fingers get cold. There are some pretty good solutions for that but yeah don’t out in Crocs and a T-shirt!
People who vote winter is the worst don’t know what extreme heat is. I mean, have you even been on the surface of a star? No amount of SPF will make that enjoyable. At least in the vacuum of space, I can put on a space suit.
@pskemp2 The truth is your body is much better equipped to handle cold, but yeah things like warm clothing and a source of some heat can be vital especially if you get wet or have exposed skin for too long. You don’t need it be at 72 though to survive.
I moved to Pacific Northwest for many reasons but one was to get out of California heat. And that was a long time ago. Now news here carries frequent updates on heat death toll from recent heat events which now seem almost continuous for several months.
@olperfesser@pmarin No socks? Not if you wanted to take your shoes off inside the house and walk around barefoot without washing your feet first. Socks at least absorb the sweat and keep most of the stench in the laundry hamper, as long as you wear thick cotton ones.
I’m sticking with “it’s easier to move from A to B” in sweltering heat that’s too thick to breathe than in subfreezing cold that you have to armor up for.
For the oppressive heat, I frequently duck into stores or buses for moments of respite. Or jump into a sprinkler. This does mean I may have to carry my own towel and a 2nd set of clothes to look presentable at my destination, but that’s the tool I have to use.
For the cold, the air is difficult to breathe, the snow slows down your legs, but enough layers and you give yourself heat stroke too. And then when you reach point B, you have to de-armor yourself… only to rebuild when you leave (which is more of a hassle than just carrying a 2nd set of clothes).
Yes, you still need some sort of suit or tool to breathe and move in either situation, but the tool against the cold is just more annoying.
@pakopako well, you at least know where your towel is
I used to walk through sprinklers a lot , those ground ones in places. Never worried, I dried so fast. Was in portland and did that and well, i ‘degloved’ my baby toe I blistered it so bad from the wet. I learned, outside of the desert, never again.
Sweltering stifling heat is worse — nothing cuts it.
I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again. You can only take off so many clothes before the cops are called. You can always add an extra layer or a blanket if you’re cold.
@kjady 100,000% this!
@kjady but you can only put on so many clothes before you can’t move. I’m from the East Coast, I prefer the heat to the cold, plus I keep the I live @ around 78f during the warmer months, around 68-70 during the short colder months!
@mycya4me I live in the midwest. I will take -20 degrees over 110 degrees any day of the week. I will admit that I run hot and only wear boots and/or a heavy parka once the temps get to the negatives.
I’m very blonde and very white. I burn extremely easily, even with sunblock. I hate sweating and if it’s too hot, that feeling of not being able to cool down or not being able to drink enough water.
I love winter, I love the cold, and really love the shorter days and long nights. Also the bugs die and I can’t state how much I love that.
@kjady @mycya4me
Pictures?
@mycya4me @phendrick Not on your life, It’d break the camera.
@kjady @mycya4me
I’m from the Midwest too (mi) and I prefer the heat to the cold. Until I was 27 I lived in a house with no ac, granted it was on the lake but I had the back bedroom so it was hot in the summer and cold in the winter. I hated the winter and always having to be under the blankets to feel warm. Im just used to being outside and enjoying the warm weather, we only get it so many months a year.
@kjady @Star2236 when I was growing up, We did NOT have AC. My parents had a LOT of window fans! It was sucking the air out at one end of the House & the other to pull it in to create a flow stream of air. I learned after we got AC to keep temp low in the cold months (68-70 F) & higher in the warmer months (78-80f) that way there was not as bigger shock coming in & it cut down on energy cost.
When it gets super cold and lots of places there’s this s*** on the ground called ice. Which is scary and can cause you to fall and trust me you don’t want to fall even though you probably will at some point in time in your life
@Cerridwyn yep I don’t like the Colder months.
@Cerridwyn you don’t have Yak Trax where you live? Easy on, easy off, no more slip and fall.
@Cerridwyn My main complaint with cold weather is the associated driving conditions. And walking conditions, I guess. (Until you mentioned it, I’d forgotten about the dangers of unintentionally walking on ice.)
@Cerridwyn @xobzoo Umm… walking conditions with the sun beating down and a heat index of 110 is also dangerous.
@Cerridwyn @vfrdirk I do have to say I love all the YouTube videos of people just trotting down their icy steps in flip flops. Well really only halfway down their steps.
@vfrdirk If where I lived got this cold, we would know Ragnarok had come
@Kidsandliz @xobzoo well yeah, if you are out hiking in it. But not just going to get the mail.
@xobzoo Yeah, that too. I won’t do it. Scares me shitless.
In the winter I can use clothing or blankets to get warm, no extra charge. In the summer I need my air conditioner and my electric bills are over $600 in a small house. Thank you, PG&E.
People who vote for summer don’t know what super cold is. I’ve seen -30F. Actual temp, not wind chill. That’s 100 degrees below what people consider comfortable.
I’ll grant you, it’s easier and cheaper to heat the inside than cool it, and yeah nobody should live where the temperature gets below zero, but also nobody should live where it gets above 100, and where there’s no water. I’ve been to Vegas and that sucks year round like winter does here.
2Bfair I can acknowledge that it’s easier to add more clothes than remove more clothes, so colder has more solutions than hotter. But 100 degrees below comfortable… Before wind chill…
@Superllama7 I vote summer sucks worse and I live in MN. We get a week or so every winter where the still air temperature is -10, -20 or -30F on the low end and doesn’t rise above 0F during the day. And still, I’d rather run the snowblower in that than run the lawnmower on a 90+ degree day braising in the humidity that accompanies living in the land of lakes.
@Superllama7, better 100° below comfortable than 100° above comfortable.
@Superllama7 @vfrdirk @Kittykat9180 I’ve lived in NW Ontario where -40 to -60 below at night is common and -20 below during the day is common where 5 above can feel like a heat wave… and we had to use an outhouse… and I’ve lived in FL where I worked taking kids from jail canoeing across the state of FL in the middle of summer with the hot sun beating down and too many gaitors and poisonous snakes in the water to go swimming… and I currently live where the weather service now claims low 90’s with high humidity is cool…I’ll take the cold over the heat any day.
You can acclimate to both so that the hot doesn’t seem quite as hot and the cold doesn’t seem quite but as cold but as someone said above, you can only take off so many clothes and you sure as heck can’t take off your skin. At 40 to 60 below you do need boots with enough insulation, including on the soles (so you don’t feel the cold from the ground) but I found a heavy down jacket with a lighter one under it and, what as kids were called ‘snowpant’ that our parents would put on us to play outside in the snow, work pretty well to keep you warm. Yes you need a scarf or something else to cover your nose/lower face, heavy gloves or mittens, and yes you can get ice on your eyebrows, etc. but dressed appropriately it is fine.
@Kidsandliz @Superllama7 @vfrdirk, I didn’t do a whole lot of running when I lived in FL, it was too hot and humid most of the time. But I wouldn’t be running in negative temps either.
@kittykat9180 @Superllama7 @vfrdirk Actually, having lived in 6 countries (well plus the USA) and 19 states what I like best is states with sunshine and 4 distinct seasons. Where I am now we have hot, hotter, fucking hot and native here claim it is seriously freezing at 40 degrees. Um nope. Weather here sucks except that we have more sunshine (although that is not appreciated when it is 97 degrees and 99% humidity) than in the Great Lakes area.
@Kidsandliz It sounds like you’d be right at home in Albuquerque.
@werehatrack don’t want live where there are water shortages. And only 10” of snow is not enough. I want enough to cross county ski and downhill ski. Don’t want 5 months is snow though.
Midsummer, I say heat; midwinter, I say cold. I forget how bad the one is when I’m in the other.
@Kyeh this is the correct answer
@Kyeh Agreed. But I have lived most of my life in a relatively temperate area (NW Oregon). Rarely either hot or cold to the extreme. The hottest I have experienced here was 120F (just a couple years ago) and the coldest was somewhere around -5F (when I was a teen). And those were only notable because it was so rare.
@Kyeh @macromeh Houston is considered to be unacceptably hot in the summer, and sometimes even I will admit that the heat and humidity combination is unworkable for anything but snoozing in the shade with a light breeze. But I grew up in Miami, and I moved here in 1981 for its cool, dry climate (by comparison), its not-dead-flat terrain (by comparison), its wonderful change of seasons, its lack of murderous traffic (again, by comparison), and its friendly and welcoming bilingual multicultural denizens who will work with you if you don’t have a good grasp of their language. Miami is, in my opinion, one of the best places in North America to be from. Very, very FAR from.
@macromeh
120??!!! It’s never gotten that high anywhere in Colorado according to the temperature sites I looked at just now! The highest I found was 115 at some dam in the SE part of the state. Crazy to think that the PNW could get that hot! @werehatrack I guess it’s what you’re used to; I wouldn’t want to live either of those places.
@Kyeh @werehatrack I think the official (record) high in Portland was 116F in June 2021. The 120F reading was seen (and felt!) by me on my front porch in direct late afternoon sun on that day. Quite a shock going from inside my air conditioned house into that inferno.
(What was truly unbelievable was that they held the Olympic track & field trials in Eugene OR during that heat wave!)
@macromeh @werehatrack Poor athletes! I just saw that they’re getting triple digits in WA currently.
Is this not beautiful?
@pmarin No. Needs more trees.
@pmarin @yakkoTDI And less cloud cover.
@werehatrack @yakkoTDI The clouds and lack of green trees are part of a beautiful desolation. I was at a time in life when I needed something and that morning made me feel happy and alive. I don’t feel I need that now (don’t worry) but am grateful for the experience. It seems the opposite of how most people would process it.
Of course it was good to be on a 4WD truck and camper (with heat) so I knew I could get out. Nobody there except a small herd of deer when I drove in the night before.
There are green trees up in Medicine Bow National Forest not that far away.
@werehatrack @yakkoTDI that’s a lake by the way. I was there in Summer and I think people swim in it.
In the west, I loved 110 degree dry heat; jump in a pool. In NEPA and SoEast the humidity is the worst no break so the freeze is best. /showme a hot Palm Springs
@KSchweitz /showme has to be on its own line.
@KSchweitz @Kyeh
/showme Palm Springs in the Summer
Palm Springs, CA doesn’t have anything like that many palms.
@werehatrack I thought it had 29 of them
/youtube 29 palms music video
@werehatrack hehehe
it wants us to think it does
I mean, Palm Spring, Palm Desert, 29 Palms, 1000 Palms etc
I’d rather run in 25° than 72°.
@kittykat9180 well definitely not 72C! That would be bad! 25 C is a bit warm for me. You are right 25F is really nice for a morning walk or run. I don’t run but like to walk and I need to do it more. Only thing that can be bad at temps like that is if there’s a cold or misting wind, and if your ears or fingers get cold. There are some pretty good solutions for that but yeah don’t out in Crocs and a T-shirt!
People who vote winter is the worst don’t know what extreme heat is. I mean, have you even been on the surface of a star? No amount of SPF will make that enjoyable. At least in the vacuum of space, I can put on a space suit.
@mikey true dat, but in absolute zero you are just as dead
@Cerridwyn @mikey also remember
/image In space no one can hear you scream
@mikey @pmarin grin
my daughter’s first movie, she was 3 weeks old
And it was the only movie I ever knew that scared Bjo Trimble shirtless, For weeks she would walk in the middle of the street.
@Cerridwyn @mikey @pmarin And, I must note, the movie then proceeded to feature many quite audible screams. In space.
i would rather be “so hot I can’t breathe” than “so cold I can’t move”
@pskemp2 The truth is your body is much better equipped to handle cold, but yeah things like warm clothing and a source of some heat can be vital especially if you get wet or have exposed skin for too long. You don’t need it be at 72 though to survive.
I moved to Pacific Northwest for many reasons but one was to get out of California heat. And that was a long time ago. Now news here carries frequent updates on heat death toll from recent heat events which now seem almost continuous for several months.
Having spent most of my life in Florida, I’ll admit to never experiencing super cold weather, but that’s why Florida.
@olperfesser I do know one good thing about Florida but that was 40 years ago. Linen suits and no socks!
/image Miami vice
@olperfesser @pmarin No socks? Not if you wanted to take your shoes off inside the house and walk around barefoot without washing your feet first. Socks at least absorb the sweat and keep most of the stench in the laundry hamper, as long as you wear thick cotton ones.
I’m sticking with “it’s easier to move from A to B” in sweltering heat that’s too thick to breathe than in subfreezing cold that you have to armor up for.
For the oppressive heat, I frequently duck into stores or buses for moments of respite. Or jump into a sprinkler. This does mean I may have to carry my own towel and a 2nd set of clothes to look presentable at my destination, but that’s the tool I have to use.
For the cold, the air is difficult to breathe, the snow slows down your legs, but enough layers and you give yourself heat stroke too. And then when you reach point B, you have to de-armor yourself… only to rebuild when you leave (which is more of a hassle than just carrying a 2nd set of clothes).
Yes, you still need some sort of suit or tool to breathe and move in either situation, but the tool against the cold is just more annoying.
@pakopako well, you at least know where your towel is
I used to walk through sprinklers a lot , those ground ones in places. Never worried, I dried so fast. Was in portland and did that and well, i ‘degloved’ my baby toe I blistered it so bad from the wet. I learned, outside of the desert, never again.
I’m in the whichever-you-are+currently-suffering-through-is-worse camp. But mosquitoes are the tie breaker.
Super cold days of winter. Seasonal depression + slower travel and snow/ice everywhere. I hate all of it.