can’t kill covid; all these do is breed disinfectant-resistant strains of superbacteria. don’t buy these and just use soap and water, which clean shit off your hands with mechanical, nonchemical motion. meh.
@boygenius1991 alcohol based sanitizers do kill covid, but are best reserved for when you don’t have access to soap and water. They do dry your skin, so shouldn’t be used when you don’t need them. Even soap and water has to be done right, rubbing everywhere and for the specified amount of time. Actually the same kind of rules apply to the sanitizers, have to have the wet sanitizer in contact for long enough to kill stuff.
The resistance issue likely comes up most with improper use, like only wetting a surface for a short time, and in hospitals where there are lots of sick people spreading bacteria and lots of sanitation going on.
@boygenius1991@Kyeh This is totally false. Disinfectants kill bacteria and viruses by chemically destroying them. It is impossible to develop a resistance to this. It would be like becoming resistant to acid. Not possible. No such thing as developing disinfectant resistance.
What you are thinking about is bacteria which become resistant to antibioitics. Antibiotics kill bacteria by a totally different mechanism than disinfectants do, and it is something that bacteria can become resistant to.
Virus like Covid cannot be killed by antibiotics so antibiotic-resistant viruses is not a thing that exists because virus are immune to antibiotics.
Virus can mutate though, and so a vaccine that is effective today can become ineffective against a mutation of the same virus tomorrow.
I’m sure you meant well with your warning but it is inaccurate. You can use disinfectants all you want without having to worry about things become resistant to them.
@opivp99 Agreed. Although fomite transmission (i.e. droplets coughed onto surfaces then touched) was never really a big driver of spread, it was always airborne particles being inhaled. I’m also a proponent of handwashing when available, since there definitely are pathogens that ethanol doesn’t do shit against - such as endospore forming bacteria like Clostridium difficile.
@Kidsandliz So now that the vast majority of the heard is either vaccinated, immune, or infected. These types of products are actually dropping to the original non inflated pricing. Sure, they will not be discontinued anytime soon. However, the demand for most is not what it was.
The herd around here isn’t much of a herd. The other problem is the dropping immunity people have and the need for re-vaccination. Those of us immune compromised (I have a blood cancer) mostly never got a good response to begin with and studies document that our immunity drops even faster. Mask though are a better choice overall.
There was a recent study that wipes do less damage to your skin and are more effective than hand sanitizer.
I have admit, coming out of the last two years with no covid or colds or flu (I was and remain diligent in my cleaning and masking), that I’m inclined to continue most of these practices, regardless of how eager local pols and deniers are to eliminate cautionary requirements. So I’ll probably buy a pack of something here …
Personally, we still mask up and keep sanitizer handy when hand washing is not readily available. Will always do so even if we look like gemiphobes doing so.
@whomeyesu “gemiphobe”? I couldn’t find a definition for that anywhere on line. Is that someone who has a phobia that their significant other wants diamonds for the next weekly-versary?
Looks like this sale could supply me for the rest of my life. (I’m now more worried about the coming shortage of food, than Covid – crops don’t grow well in the aftermath of nuclear war, and dead cows in the fields don’t keep that well.) BUT, what is the shelf life of this stuff? Does the gel dry out?
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ALSO, Meh, why are you selling FOUR items, but only letting me buy THREE of them? SO, which one of the four is the worst option? HUNNH??
@Citymars Thanks, but I should have clarified; I find that “Expiration” dates and “Best by” dates are usually pretty artificial. For food items, they often just add one year to the date of manufacture. I’ve had UNOPENED refrigerated foodstuffs get moldy (I keep my fridge cold enough to sometimes form ice crystals in the goods) but have had other goods be not noticeably bad a year after BBD.
On items similar to these, I was wondering if anybody had had experience with the drying out I was asking about. (I once got an excess of screen cleaners at a huge discount – not here – just to find the bottles had dried out in less than a year after I got them.)
Exactly! Cash can move instantly and be directed toward whatever Ukraine needs at the time (afaik, right now its air cover, but no idea how we can buy that … yet. SuperPAC maybe?).
I’ll probably be banned for this, but I bought wipes, 75% alcohol, 50 per pack for $.50 each at Staples…and they delivered them free. Hocleans brand. No aloe, though. I can’t use aloe.
Some disinfecting gels are rather runny, like runny enough to drip between your fingers when you pour it into your hand. And runny enough to not quickly rub into your hands. Some are thicker and don’t easily make a mess.
I thought you got everything for $15, and I still wasn’t buying it. I’m ready to not deal with all this crap anymore , last thing I want is 5 extra years worth .
Unfortunately, most of this stuff ends up in our solid waste system. You know those places that you don’t want to think about when you throw your mask and wipes and empty containers in the trash can at home. The small benefit they might do for sanitizing end up costing our environment big. Solid Waste
Specs
Product: 10-Pack: SupplyAID 80% Alcohol Hand Sanitizer Gel with Soothing Aloe 16 oz
Model: RRS-HS16
Condition: New
Product: 20-Pack: SupplyAid 80% Alcohol Hand Sanitizer Gel with Soothing Aloe 8 oz
Model: RRS-HS8
Condition: New
Product: 48-Pack: SupplyAid Hand Sanitizer Gel with Soothing Aloe 2 oz
Model: RR-HS2-24
Condition: New
Product: 16-Pack: Supply Aid Antibacterial Hand & Multi- Surface Sanitizing Wipes
Model: RRS-SW80-4pk
Condition: New
What’s Included?
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Price Comparison
$79.96 for 16 packs of Wipes at Walmart
$38.80 for 10, 16oz Sanitizer on Amazon
$79.80 for 20, 8oz Dual Sanitizer on Amazon
$40.18 for similar 48, 2oz Sanitizer on Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Thursday, Aug 4 - Monday, Aug 8
can’t kill covid; all these do is breed disinfectant-resistant strains of superbacteria. don’t buy these and just use soap and water, which clean shit off your hands with mechanical, nonchemical motion. meh.
@boygenius1991
@boygenius1991 alcohol based sanitizers do kill covid, but are best reserved for when you don’t have access to soap and water. They do dry your skin, so shouldn’t be used when you don’t need them. Even soap and water has to be done right, rubbing everywhere and for the specified amount of time. Actually the same kind of rules apply to the sanitizers, have to have the wet sanitizer in contact for long enough to kill stuff.
The resistance issue likely comes up most with improper use, like only wetting a surface for a short time, and in hospitals where there are lots of sick people spreading bacteria and lots of sanitation going on.
@boygenius1991 @Kyeh This is totally false. Disinfectants kill bacteria and viruses by chemically destroying them. It is impossible to develop a resistance to this. It would be like becoming resistant to acid. Not possible. No such thing as developing disinfectant resistance.
What you are thinking about is bacteria which become resistant to antibioitics. Antibiotics kill bacteria by a totally different mechanism than disinfectants do, and it is something that bacteria can become resistant to.
Virus like Covid cannot be killed by antibiotics so antibiotic-resistant viruses is not a thing that exists because virus are immune to antibiotics.
Virus can mutate though, and so a vaccine that is effective today can become ineffective against a mutation of the same virus tomorrow.
I’m sure you meant well with your warning but it is inaccurate. You can use disinfectants all you want without having to worry about things become resistant to them.
@boygenius1991 @uscpsycho
This article, and several others I found, argue that disinfectants can cause bacterial resistance:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s43856-021-00070-8
@boygenius1991 @Kyeh @uscpsycho Interesting article; Thanks.
Washing your hands with soap and water is very effective. That said, I’ll trust the science on sanitizers, no offense “boy genius” @boygenius1991 . https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/studies-hand-sanitizers-kill-covid-19-virus-e-consults-appropriate
@opivp99 Agreed. Although fomite transmission (i.e. droplets coughed onto surfaces then touched) was never really a big driver of spread, it was always airborne particles being inhaled. I’m also a proponent of handwashing when available, since there definitely are pathogens that ethanol doesn’t do shit against - such as endospore forming bacteria like Clostridium difficile.
I wonder if I can use this in my flamethrower.
@yakkoTDI Since it’s 80% ethanol, yes you could
@jmoor783 Hot damn!
This deal needs wiped off the map
@Kidsandliz So now that the vast majority of the heard is either vaccinated, immune, or infected. These types of products are actually dropping to the original non inflated pricing. Sure, they will not be discontinued anytime soon. However, the demand for most is not what it was.
@whomeyesu I was making a pun.
The herd around here isn’t much of a herd. The other problem is the dropping immunity people have and the need for re-vaccination. Those of us immune compromised (I have a blood cancer) mostly never got a good response to begin with and studies document that our immunity drops even faster. Mask though are a better choice overall.
There was a recent study that wipes do less damage to your skin and are more effective than hand sanitizer.
I have admit, coming out of the last two years with no covid or colds or flu (I was and remain diligent in my cleaning and masking), that I’m inclined to continue most of these practices, regardless of how eager local pols and deniers are to eliminate cautionary requirements. So I’ll probably buy a pack of something here …
People, it is now safe to leave your bunker.
Personally, we still mask up and keep sanitizer handy when hand washing is not readily available. Will always do so even if we look like gemiphobes doing so.
@whomeyesu “gemiphobe”? I couldn’t find a definition for that anywhere on line. Is that someone who has a phobia that their significant other wants diamonds for the next weekly-versary?
@phendrick Was it intentionally placed to get a teachers reaction? know body noes.
If $15 for 96oz or 160oz of Alcohol. The last time I drank that much… well, I don’t really remember.
Looks like this sale could supply me for the rest of my life. (I’m now more worried about the coming shortage of food, than Covid – crops don’t grow well in the aftermath of nuclear war, and dead cows in the fields don’t keep that well.) BUT, what is the shelf life of this stuff? Does the gel dry out?
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ALSO, Meh, why are you selling FOUR items, but only letting me buy THREE of them? SO, which one of the four is the worst option? HUNNH??
@phendrick I have an endless supply of the best hand sanitizer in the world - spit.
@phendrick I don’t know about the shelf-life, but the specs do supply an expiration date (of September 2022 for the wipes).
@Citymars Thanks, but I should have clarified; I find that “Expiration” dates and “Best by” dates are usually pretty artificial. For food items, they often just add one year to the date of manufacture. I’ve had UNOPENED refrigerated foodstuffs get moldy (I keep my fridge cold enough to sometimes form ice crystals in the goods) but have had other goods be not noticeably bad a year after BBD.
On items similar to these, I was wondering if anybody had had experience with the drying out I was asking about. (I once got an excess of screen cleaners at a huge discount – not here – just to find the bottles had dried out in less than a year after I got them.)
If I purchase these products, could meh.com ship it to the Ukraine to help those people? Could I get a response meh.com?
@Lesliecole no. I can assure you they would prefer cash.
Exactly! Cash can move instantly and be directed toward whatever Ukraine needs at the time (afaik, right now its air cover, but no idea how we can buy that … yet. SuperPAC maybe?).
I’ll probably be banned for this, but I bought wipes, 75% alcohol, 50 per pack for $.50 each at Staples…and they delivered them free. Hocleans brand. No aloe, though. I can’t use aloe.
@Tadlem43 we don’t currently ban for aloe allergy.
Some disinfecting gels are rather runny, like runny enough to drip between your fingers when you pour it into your hand. And runny enough to not quickly rub into your hands. Some are thicker and don’t easily make a mess.
Anyone know which type of gel this is?
@uscpsycho This aren’t the gels you’re looking for. (with a slight wave of the hand) sorry could not resist
@rustyh3 @uscpsycho Is it just my experience or are the runnier ones also the sticky and stinky ones?
I thought you got everything for $15, and I still wasn’t buying it. I’m ready to not deal with all this crap anymore
, last thing I want is 5 extra years worth 
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Lately Menards has been paying you ($1 after rebate) to take hand sanitizer and cleansing wipes off their shelves.
@Mark_L you are correct! Wow.
https://www.menards.com/main/grocery-home/health-beauty/body-wash-facial-cleansers-soap/hand-soap-sanitizers/hand-sanitizer-64-oz/79902078998/p-3149259783687634-c-6792.htm?tid=-7769755536527040119&ipos=2
@Mark_L I read “no limit”. Did you cash in an IRA and buy a couple of thousand?
To bad Menards is several states away from me.
I’m gonna paint all my doorknobs with this stuff.
How’s it smell?
/giphy what’s that smell
Unfortunately, most of this stuff ends up in our solid waste system. You know those places that you don’t want to think about when you throw your mask and wipes and empty containers in the trash can at home. The small benefit they might do for sanitizing end up costing our environment big.
Solid Waste
Are these flushable?