So, any mediocre ideas for MST3K reunion accessories?
14So, a bit over a year ago I dropped a grand on the Kickstarter for Mystery Science Theater 3000’s new season. One of the perks was going to the LA premiere of the first episode, complete with red carpet and photos and all that jazz. But, the dress suggestion is “formal”. I don’t have anything really good for the event. I’ve got dress pants, I’ve got a decent dress shirt, but how to accessorize? I’m (obviously) a geek type, and (predictably) in the big and tall category. So, I’ve been trying to find the right kind of tie or other item to wear along with the requisite black-everything-else. So, Meh commentariat, you seem like an amusing bunch of misfits! Aside from a pair of VMP socks, anyone got suggestions?
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@CaptAmehrican Ah, if they were only A: not crap looking (too blurry) and B: official merch, those could work. Cufflinks are a good idea, though!
http://www.ties.com/novelty-neckties ?
Get an extra long tie.
@caffeine_dude Mmm, yeah. I’ll have to look those over. There are some that don’t look too bad on that site, thanks!
@TellarHK http://www.ties.com/wild-ties-black-meh-extra-long-tie
BOOM! done.
with a rental Tuxedo, and a pair of Converse.
you’re welcome.
@TellarHK
This is seriously cool. Hope you have a blast.
In your shoes I might google pix of what stars wore to the Oscars, Golden Globes, and film premiers. Most of the guys look very nice but boring, but find pix of the funky and interesting ones.
Use those as stimulation for your imagination.
Or find a rock star or writer who looks great in formal clothing. Use that as starting point for your imagination.
People who look like models have the easiest time w this, obviously, but anyone can look great with a little effort. Being tall helps a lot. Don’t let not being “perfect” kill your confidence.
Get a few opinions from friends or a tailor re fit and posture.
Your jacket should hopefully be a little fascinating. Something offbeat.
Key: make sure everything fits beautifully. If you need to, take stuff to a tailor. And figure out some way to comb your hair that looks great and will stay put if your hair isn’t very short.
A lot of the diff between
{“looks ok” or “looks weird”} vs
{"looks interesting and fabulous and some reporter wants to talk to you"
or “some magazine wants your picture”} involve the wittiness of the outfit, exquisite grooming, and clothes that fit as though you use a tailor every day; and also how you carry yourself.
Learn to “carry the clothes” as if you are a public figure. Practice optimism and confidence and non-stop posture.
Practice acting like you belong there.
Don’t overdo. Let someone else look like an obsessed maniac.
We want pix afterwards.
@f00l +10, thank you. It’s not exactly the kind of super formal thing that you see people talking about six months down the road on some fashion blog, but the fundamental rules you mention seem like they’d apply pretty well. I definitely don’t want to look “weird”, even if that might be a rather high bar for the particular crowd I’m expecting at the event. Though I’m not sure where the weirder ones will be, the NY event (unlikely), Chicago’s (pretty likely considering midwesterners are so repressed most of the time) or LA (because California).
The precise fit is going to be something I have to pay attention to, and usually don’t. “Business casual” is my daily style, but “putting on a suit” is something I’m not exactly familiar with. Suits are for funerals.
@TellarHK
Suits are for funerals.
And suits are for “occasions.” Esp w Hollywood-related. Esp if the press is present.
I promise that every big name you see at a big industry event, no matter how rebellious and “street” the person, has fashion advice and tailoring.
They want to photograph well. They want to look cool and successful.
@f00l @TellarHK Boy, do we want pix!
(I coughed up about $100 all told for the MST3K reboot, so all I got was a Christmas post card and a wallet card. No LA invite, alas.)
@f00l @TellarHK
Awesome advice! But one more thing. Dont get so wrapped up that you forget to step back and just take it all in. Have fun and enjoy yourself! It sounds amazing
You can get a Gizmonics Institute patch for under 10 bucks on either eBay or Etsy. Trust me. Nothing says “class” like a patch sewed to a $1000 suit.
@DrWorm
I agree with that philosophy.
Screw “uptown”.
Wait… is this our opportunity to dress a Mehtizen for the red carpet?
I think we should come together behind this. @TellarHK, do you want to blend in or stand out? (@f00l does make some good points.)
@djslack
Neither blend in nor stand out - if by standing out you mean, “look at the nutcase!”
Unless he wants to be the nutcase. Then it’s cool.
My thought was for him to be the best looking and coolest guy there, unless George Clooney attends. Some people just “got it”. Hard to compete with that.
Then settle for the best-looking, most-interesting, most-intelligent-looking non-industry person.
@djslack @F00l is dead on, I think. I’m hoping to look a touch over mediocre in the crowd. Maybe memorable, but not because of sloppiness or standing out. I’m just so unused to the whole “dress up” thing at all, ugh.
I think trying to be the coolest looking guy in the room is an admirable goal, and I definitely do want to have some bit of flair/accent that makes a memorable impression. The cufflinks @CaptAmehrican pointed to give me an idea that accessorizing with cufflinks is a good start, and the tie page @caffeine_dude look promising, too. Just need to find something that stands out without becoming eye searing or anything like that.
I’d say I could do something with my 3D printer for accessories, but everything that comes out of a 3D printer, honestly, looks like crap.
At the very least, I think I can find a good tie, and cufflinks if I decide to go with a suit jacket (assuming I have/can afford one that doesn’t look like it belongs at a funeral) and then maybe a tie clip. I think the way I wear it all is going to be a big impact, as @F00l said. Hadn’t even thought about any of that.
@TellarHK
Line and silhouette and fit of the ensemble, plus posture, attitude. grooming, confidence, accessories make the look.
Fit and silhouette are huge because that’s the first thing people see and they see it from a distance.
If you have great posture, grooming, attitude, clothing that fits really well to you, and silhouette, you look like you belong. It draws people in.
That’s why get a tailor if you need one.
Don’t let anything about it be sloppy unless the sloppiness is obviously intentional and witty.
@TellarHK Look for a suit or jacket at some thrift stores. You can find some great looking and/or cool and funky things for great prices and have some money left over for alterations.
Your shoes really need to look really nice.
They also need to be insanely comfortable. So that you can stand in them for hours if need be.
@f00l @TellarHK Agreed. Please don’t wear sneakers with formal wear. It’s not the 80s any more. There’s a new guy on the Satellite of Love and we are grown-ups.
@SSteve
I only wear formal sneakers with formal wear.
I’ve actually seen pix of Martina Navratilova doing this in a huge “media event” dress.
@SSteve Hell, I haven’t worn sneakers in probably 10 years anyhow. My usual shoe choice is a brown suede, that fits in just about everywhere. I’m due to buy a new set any day now, actually, so I think I’ll take @f00l’s advice and get a nicer-than-usual pair this time around, and wear them for a week or so to break them in. Because yeah, standing around in fresh shoes can hurt like hell. I did the new shoes thing before a trip to Korea a few years ago, and it was unpleasant.
You have a 3d printer any chance you could do a 3d print of the movie theater seats and characters as a tie clip that is recognizable? Then do that agaist a white tie. Black shirt black suit nice pocket square in white.
Fyi i have been assuming you are a cis gendered male of that is not true we can change discussion of outfit.
@CaptAmehrican Yeah, that’s the proper assumption to make. And hmm, that’s a clever idea, about the silhouettes. Most 3D prints look kind of assy, but something like that would be small enough that it’d be easy to look over the imperfections. Great idea, thanks! There are a few silhouette models on Thingiverse, and I think I can turn one of those into something usable.
@TellarHK fyi i expect a pic of you with Crow T Robot at this event.
They said formal. For guys, that means a tuxedo. At an event like this, you’ll probably stand out from the crowd (in a good way) by actually wearing the suggested formal wear, so I’d skip the suit and go straight to a tux. Make sure to polish your shoes. The shirt they provide with a rental tux is likely to have a severely overstarched pleated front that can be awkward to wear (try it on for an hour, and you’ll see). I’d suggest washing the shirt in advance to get the extra starch out (and re-ironing without the starch). I would absolutely add the MST3K cufflinks.
@euphxenos
Wedding-tux sounds like too much to me, tho I am no expert on formalwear or men’s wear. Full-on wedding tends to make most people look like idiots, depending.
Remember, wedding tuxes are selected as often as not by a bride or someone’s mom in order to make the guys look soooooo cuuuuuute! That’s not what you want for a film premier.
Too bad @Pavlov isn’t around, he must know this stuff.
Look at what the cool people wear to the Grammies and the Oscars.
Avoid all ruffles and extra weird pleated dress shirts unless they make you look like Byron or a rock star or Johnny Carson at his best, or if you can make them look witty.
Don’t wear anything so stiff or uncomfortable that your neck or other body area wishes you were dead after several hours. Esp be nice to your neck.
Don’t wear anything you can’t walk, stand, or sit in comfortably.
Make sure your shoulders, arms, and wrists, have room and you can move around.
@euphxenos Hmmm, I’m not sure. That’s definitely a thought, and if I lived in LA and had the ability to rent it for a couple nights, wash like you suggest, etc. I might actually go for it. Unfortunately, I’m going to be driving there from northern NV, and I’m not sure I could afford a tux (or even get one in my size in time) for the full week.
And yeah, a “wedding” tux would be rough. I’d have to go with something less wedding, more “Hollywood” for obvious reasons. Not sure how to go about that, other than shiny fabric. Hmm.
@TellarHK
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@TellarHK Where most wedding parties in black tuxes go wrong is that someone puts the bridesmaids in tangerine orange (or some other garish color), and decides the groomsmen have to wear matching awful ties and cummerbunds. Perhaps they add ruffled shirtfronts. Take that same black tuxedo and wear it with a black tie, black cummerbund, and proper pleated-front tuxedo shirt and the same tux looks the way it should.
There’s no need to rent a tux for a week. If you look, you will probably find that there is a store near you that rents formalwear and is part of a national chain that also has a location near where you’re going (if not, then also try Jos A Bank and Mens Wearhouse – they also rent tuxes). Go to the location near you to make your selection, get measured, and try it on. Make a reservation to have that outfit in that size held for you at your destination on the required date. This is how weddings generally make arrangements for groomsmen coming in from other parts of the country. Get where you’re going, pick it up for a one-day rental, and return it the next day.
Neon colored tux.
I would go for safety orange.
@thismyusername Purple. I’d definitely have to go with purple. I’d look like a grape, but screw it.
On second thought, I think I’ll pass on the purple tux.
@TellarHK for mst3k the next gen you really wanna stand out… if osha orange isn’t striking you go for highlighter yellow!
@TellarHK
If you could get a really dark purple - near black, hard to tell which - it would be cool.
A bit darker than this.
/image “dark purple”
@f00l you two are being too subdued…
maybe neon green…
@thismyusername I see a green suit, I think ‘leprechaun’ (no matter how big)
@TellarHK In the real world, formal == tux. Go to a place that rents tuxes. Preferably locally-owned so you’ll have a better chance of finding someone who knows what they’re talking about instead of some kid in a mall working for minimum wage. Get some advice, look through the book and try some stuff on. There are some tuxes that not only don’t make you look like a dorky teenager at the junior prom, but can look damn fine. If you give that a shot and don’t find anything you like, at least you gave it a shot.
I rented a nice tux for some friends’ 50th anniversary party where My wife and I were two of the speakers and it went over really well. I don’t consider myself good-looking but I got a ton of compliments.
That’s so cool that you get to go to the premier. I backed the project but not nearly to the extent you did.
@TellarHK You mentioned having dress pants and a decent dress shirt.
If you have an upper scale dept store near you, like Saks or Neiman Marcus, which should have a tailer… You can bring your pants and shirt with you and explain the event and ask the tailer (or a knowledgable salesperson) if the pieces you have are a good starting place or not.
It would be great if you were comfortable in your own pants/shirt already and by adding a stunning vest and pair of shoes or dress boots could make a knock out image.
Just be aware of the fact that trying to match your pants will probably be impossible and you would be better off buying a new suit or renting a Tom Ford tux.
Enjoy yourself!
I wouldn’t wear a tux . A really really sharp suit is the way to go. If you look at the guys in the casts at the Hollywood premier they are in very very sharp suits. (I just posted star trek into darkness and avengers cast at premier pictures notice no tuxes) but very very sharp suits. I do like the black shirt look it does different while still not wierd.
Too bad you don’t get a return on the investment. Thanks for supporting the kickstarter.