@woodhouse I miss our HPB’s first few years; we found a lot of great books there, historical, sci fi, metalworking… we sold a few older and interesting books to them too. unfortunately they went downhill pretty badly. And now they’re gone.
We sold a few books to them early one but they got so lowball on everything we gave up.
@duodec@f00l I work near enough to a Half Price (not in TX) that people will come in occasionally and conversationally complain about their offer from HPB and I always tell them that if they itemize their tax deductions they’re probably better off donating their books.
The thing is that HPB makes their money on volume and as far as I can tell they’re not interested in interesting books as much as popular mass market paperbacks. The other thing is that there may only be one or two books out of a bunch that they actually want, and the rest will go directly into the recycling bin behind the store (which is a paradise of crap and why I have multiple Rod McKuen books in my car).
When I visit HPB I head straight for my interests.
Certain fantasy and mystery writers, esp if not available in e-book format.
After-Doyle Sherlock Holmes pastiches.
Atlases and ref books.
Children’s picture books. Caldecott stuff.
Anything that catches my eye.
Then I hit the vintage and collectibles section. I look at everything I have time for. I esp love vintage kid’s books.
If it’s expensive, I compare online prices.
And I spend too much. Somehow or other.
Around here (DFW), I don’t know whether they dump books as trash or recycling. But the buyers have told me that they sell a lot of “books by the yard” to decorators and to people who “dress” empty for-sale houses, and they donate frequently to hospitals, group homes, shelters, nursing and care facilities, etc.
Of what people bring in to offer, they only have a purchasing market for a fairly small percentage of items.
@duodec Eh, I worked at the closest library for many years and once got a grocery bag full of John Dickson Carr paperbacks because they were too old and beat up to be interesting/put out on the sale shelf (greatest day of my life? depressingly possible!). I don’t think the library is interested in storing a bunch of not particularly valuable books. I’m not even sure if thrift shops would want to deal with the volume. Honestly, it’s nice the books are even being recycled.
@f00l I take a slightly different route past the collectibles case (for tarot decks) to vintage/old and interesting, scoot around to New Age/occult/folklore, then to fantasy/sci fi to check for The Shadow of the Torturer (it’s never there) and horror to check for any Robert Aickman. Then I either go straight to clearance or run through sheet music or crochet first.
I have been known to eye the occasional vintage children’s book.
Which fantasy and mystery writers do you seek, if it’s not too personal?
@mossygreen I didn’t say to donate to the library, but to the ‘Friends of the Library’. Maybe thats not a general thing, but in both Las Vegas and my current suburban Chicago area, the main branch of each town seems to have one. They take in book donations year round. I expect the library proper cherry-picks some for its shelves but nearly all of it is stored and then sold in mass used book sales several times a year.
The money supports the library; the FOTL are, at least here, volunteers who get the perk of being able to read lots of donated books, and (maybe) getting a little early access to the book sales when they happen (I know they don’t get a discount here).
Better than a recycling bin, and that remains an option for truly unsellable stuff.
Fantasy. Not up to date at all
JRRT, GRRM, Rowling, Robert Jordan, Harry Dresden books
Mean to do Name if the Wind.
Way out of it with fantasy.
So many over the years. Can’t remember them all. Can’t remember more than a few if my favs
I like Hillerman a lot.
The great Golden Age writers.
Lightweight pleasant stuff like Royal Spyness and McCall Smith.
S Holmes of course.
A bunch of the Scandinavian writers.
John D MacDonald
James Lee Burke
Martin Cruz Smith
A bunch of stuff I havent gotten to yet.
I am forgetting a bunch. There are so many good ones.
If it’s halfway decent I’ll read it.
The incomparable John Le Carre
/image spy who came in from the cold
This is all super incomplete.
So many more good ones that don’t come to mind at the moment.
@f00l@mossygreen Turns out yesterday through Sunday was the annual FOTL holiday sale.
I found three worth picking up. “Something of Value” by Robert Ruark, and two volumes of Horatio Hornblower novels; I loved the few Ruark books I read before but this one was hard to find for a while and I had stopped trying. And Hornblower kept coming up again and again as recommendations from my acquaintences with military service or connections.
All three hardcovers in very good condition (but no dustcovers), $10.
@f00l My current fantasy interests are mainly a vague plan to reread everything by Tanith Lee in chronological order and maybe one day finally read the Mythago Wood series (read the short story the author turned into a novel back in the '80’s, I think, and then was excited to see the novel sometime in the '90’s and now it’s way later so I’m clearly in no rush), so your list seems reasonably up-to-date to me. I guess I’ll also read any Arthurian legend/pastiche that comes down the pike.
Oh wait, I’m totally psyched that Philip Pullman finally published another book, so it’s probably time to reread the His Dark Materials trilogy. Did you ever read his Sally Lockwood series? The first book is essentially The Moonstone with a teenage girl detective.
As for mysteries, I can’t stop rereading Dorothy L. Sayers and John Dickson Carr.
@duodec Curses! I have to devote more time to FOTL book sales. I have a short list of books I want to own which are quite expensive online. I mean, sure I never finished Conjuring Up Philip, but I don’t want to spend approximately $100 to find out how it ends. I mean, I know how it ends because it’s a non-fiction book about a Canadian psychic research group who decided to see if they could manifest real phenomena around a fake ghost they made up, and they say they did, and that’s the book. BUT WHY IS IT SO EXPENSIVE?! All I want is a withdrawn library copy.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand: you did well at the sale! Congratulations on your haul.
@ruouttaurmind i generally avoid Dean Koontz and Stephen King movies bc they are such a let down after the books. I made the mistake of giving Odd Thomas a chance, particularly after how good Anton Yelchin was in Star Trek. Nope, back to avoiding those movies.
@mollama I haven’t read any of the Odd Thomas books. I watched the movie on a miserable plane ride from London to Detroit, and I didn’t hate it. But then maybe that’s mostly because it distracted me from the excruciating ride?
I’ve only seen the TV miniseries Stephen King movies, and, well… ya. Although I did see Creepshow in the theater when I was a nipper (6th grade, sneaked in with friends after buying tickets for ET). I did enjoy that quite a bit. Of course I was 10 at the time, so…
@f00l Here’s mine, anyways. http://372pages.com/
Mike Nelson (Formerly of MST3K and currently of Rifftrax) and one of his senior writers Conor Lastowka did a “book club” podcast of Ready player one. It was immensely entertaining. They wrapped it up a few weeks back but are planning on continuing with the author’s next book at some point
I just poke around for podcasts. See the recs in iTunes etc. Try them. See what I wanna make time for as a priority.
Lately I’ve done a bunch of news and political stuff. Mostly the big names.
And one for fun:
better off undead.
Which name changed to
Worst Podcast Ever.
There are some really good ones out there
@CaptAmehrican mentioned some history podcasts. And other people have comes up with some.
I’ll try to dig up the links and put them here.
I don’t do much reading if blogs. Lack if time.
If I were going to read blogs I might start with
Other blog recs welcome (any topic!) since I’m so out of the loop.
We’ve also had book and podcast discussions in the past. I’ll try to dig up those links.
What radio/audio programs do you like?
What are your interests?
There are so many good podcasts that narrowing it down is the problem.
I’ve yet to listen, but a lot if people really like something called
I think it’s personal stories from many people. Not sure?
TedTalks is available thru podcasts.
Many well-known media outlets
Slate, Salon, HuffPost, Vice Media, NYT, Washington Post, the New Yorker, NPR, etc, have good and intelligent podcasts in many areas far beyond standard news and politics.
Jazz. Tech. Science. Language. Philosophy. Animation.
Whatever you want.
There are also good ones in the fitness/health/finances/motivation/life-hacking areas.
I haven’t really looked around yet that much.
There is just so much good stuff.
If you have Amazon prime check out the included “Audible Channels”
I haven’t done that much yet. But good stuff there.
@f00l My wife loves true crime murder podcasts. Specifically, long ones that follow the same case throughout a season. She says that every murder podcast that comes out goes to #1 on the charts, but i suspect that’s a chart iTunes has customized for her as a murder podcast junkie and not necessarily the iTunes top podcasts chart.
@f00l we both enjoyed the first Serial. The second with Bowe Bergdahl we couldn’t get into, but that seems to be a widespread response. S-Town was also enjoyable.
Since then she has gone on a deep dive into true crime podcasts that i didn’t follow her on. I think Serial is just about the gold standard for what she would like, a long form podcast with a developing story as it goes if you follow it in real time. It seems a lot of these podcasts originate in Georgia for some reason, and some have brought attention to cases leading to arrests or renewed investigations.
My wife does these deep dives regularly. At one point she had watched damn near every horror movie on Netflix, well into the ones with a one star rating. Some of those were laughably bad.
Amazon is remaking ‘Lord of the Rings’ as a series because everyone wants their own 'Game of Thrones’
Who says originality is dead?
The rumors are true: Amazon Studios is moving ahead with a small-screen adaptation of J. R. R. Tolkien’s beloved fantasy series The Lord of the Rings, despite the fact that Peter Jackson’s film trilogy was pretty much perfect and a remake is wholly unnecessary. (We won’t speak of The Hobbit franchise.)
Amazon has acquired global television rights to the series and given it a multi-season commitment, which will “explore new storylines preceding J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Fellowship of the Ring,” according to a company release, implying that the show may weave in aspects of Tolkien’s The Hobbit, since that story involves a number of characters who later reappear in Lord of the Rings.
“The Lord of the Rings is a cultural phenomenon that has captured the imagination of generations of fans through literature and the big screen,” said Sharon Tal Yguado, Head of Scripted Series at Amazon Studios. “We are honored to be working with the Tolkien Estate and Trust, HarperCollins and New Line on this exciting collaboration for television and are thrilled to be taking The Lord of the Rings fans on a new epic journey in Middle Earth.”
“We are delighted that Amazon, with its longstanding commitment to literature, is the home of the first-ever multi-season television series for The Lord of the Rings,” said Matt Galsor, a representative for the Tolkien Estate and Trust and HarperCollins. “Sharon and the team at Amazon Studios have exceptional ideas to bring to the screen previously unexplored stories based on J.R.R. Tolkien’s original writings.”
The deal also includes an option for a spinoff, which fans have speculated could potentially utilize storylines from The Silmarillion, a collection of tales which explore the years before The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings took place.
Hope they don’t screw it up.
If only they could get PJ to show-run the entire thing in NZ.
@ruouttaurmind Whereas for me the ‘cartoony’ shit Jackson put in the movie undermined it pretty badly. I’ll take the book any day.
If LOTR gets redone with some of the cartoony shit left out (Legolas and the oliphant, dwarf tossing, “suspension of disbelief destroying” crap like that), then maybe it will be worth it.
Tom Bombadil and Goldberry, neutral, but it would be nice to have the scene where they pick up the Blades of Westerness (Barrow Blades), forged by the men of Númenor; their presence and capabilities were part of the story that Jackson just smurfed around.
@aetris Scenery and special effects matter but the story, and respecting the characters, the world, and the author/creator also matter. This page says it better than I could (but 'ware the pop up ads): Here
@duodec - Again, I’m not disagreeing, but a long time ago I figured out the truth of what @f001 said elsewhere, that Hollywood’s advice to authors is 'throw your work over the wall, we’ll throw the money back, then you just WALK AWAY."
I have tremendous respect for all the artistry that went into the Jackson films, and the script… could have been worse.
If I’ve learned anything from subscribing to NetFlix, it’s that films can be worse. Much, much worse. Even Nicholas Cage films…
@sligett My publishing company will back you on this project. I’ll forward your advance post haste in the sums of 4,000,000 millions us dollar. You need simply only to prove your bank account detail number to me
Don’t forget to use your B&N ebook settlement credit. I went to a store, found a decorating magazine about English Style that I’m going to regret, and my online credit paid for most of it. They can scan the barcode in your email.
@f00l from a B&N email dated 20 Oct. An explanation:
’…You previously received an email informing you that you have a new credit in your Barnes & Noble account as a result of a redistribution of the Apple Settlement. We’re happy to let you know that your settlement credit for $x.xx is now in your Barnes & Noble account and ready to spend.
You can use your credit toward books, eBooks, and more in any of our channels – online at barnesandnoble.com, on NOOK®, or in stores. This new credit can also be used in combination with any remaining activated credit from the previous Apple settlement distribution.’
I recently joined a weekly email list that lets me know about free romance & erotica ebooks on Amazon. They are poorly written, but they’re free. I even discovered a new fetish I didn’t know I was into!
@sammydog01 Just finished I am Legend. Another rare example of “The movie was better than the book.” The book had much potential, but it seemed like the writer just sort of lost motivation and ended prematurely.
FYI: I’ve found a few of these sale books with the “Get this audiobook for $1.99 when you purchase the Kindle version”, with a few of the Kindle versions being a buck or two, or FREE. So be sure to check for that before springing a fiver on the audiobook only.
@sammydog01 I’m with you. I don’t find much value in $5 for a 7 hour listen. I start with “what provides the most listen time” then start at the longest books and work my way down until I find something at least a little interesting.
I’ve purchased books I only found a little interesting based on the publisher’s synopsis and been quite pleasantly surprised how captivating or entertaining the book turned out to be. Though I have had a couple that turned out to be a struggle to get through (The Complete Sherlock Holmes for example at over 58 hours!).
The deal always goes live between about 12:15am and 12:30am Pacifc Time each day.
The deal always ends at midnight Pacific time.
(One in a while there is no link on the home page to the daily deal.)
Or you can call them and ask. Or sign up for daily deal emails.
If you miss one you really wanted, I’ve had good luck calling them next day and getting them to give me the deal price on the book deal I missed. This does not always work. But usually.
(I am good costumer, so …)
And I didn’t notice anyone mention the Gutenberg Project. It’s amazing the obscure but interesting things you can find there. I’m on book 2 of 5 for the Scarlet Pimpernel series. Have read lots of detective noir, and more than just a few Golden Age sci-fi.
@f00l No other Tolkien books but they had a C S Lewis bundle. The faqs said 12 downloads and you can call them and ask for more. They have a library feature now. They also have monthly free downloads if you like that type of book.
I can’t get my fires to show up on my computer when I plug them in. I’m still working on it.
FWIW, id play them on my Android phone if I used one.
iOS, it can be done. Either using iTunes (computer iTunes sync); be so late sure to right click on the books in iTunes and labeled then as Auduobooks - is a bit friendlier that way)
(Have done this on an iPod classic, never an iOS device.)
Or just dl the files to iOS phone. Then open in something like Bookmobile. (Works. Playing them is kind of a pita).
Perhaps you can play mp3 files in the iOS audible app. I never figured out how to.
one good way to play these is to purchase an older android phone (unactivated) and install a good Audiobook player. Something like an S3. Or an older Nexus. Cheapie.
As long as you don’t install other stuff in the phone, it ought to work ok.
@f00l I was keeping an eye on the BF deals for no contract phones on the cheap with the intention of making one a dedicated Audible player for the car. Best Buy had something under ten bucks, but it was in-store only and I wasn’t about to go face the crowds.
@f00l Meh. I had a S3 for a very short time. I hated TouchWIZ so much I replaced the phone in a matter of a couple months.
I prefer a phone with a removable battery (plan to use it with the battery removed), and with a newer OS so I won’t run into issues with software compatibility, but frankly I’ll settle for anything in the $10 to $20 range. As long as it has Bluetooth and a microSD slot, nothing else really matters.
@f00l I tried and failed to load google play on my fire but found an app that looks good. Then I tried all the cables in my drawer and found one that worked. So I’m set with LOTR and will be able to load my new e-gobooks.
My son gives me a hard time about this but I use different devices for different things.
My phone is for phone stuff, Pokémon Go, and that stupid butterfly game galmaegi got me hooked on. (Curse you galmaegi.)
My blue Fire has a scratched screen so it’s for music and audiobooks. It takes a beating in the car.
My orange fire is for videos.
I have a new yellow Fire- im not sure what I’ll use it for but it has Alexa so I can have a conversation with it.
@f00l ‘…Jane not comparison shipped, not the price looks…’ I tried to uncorrect this, and I give up. What??? I did not get the LG Tones, because at this point I have three sets. Thanks a lot; it’s addictive.
audible usually charges members (persons with subscriptions to buy credits) a rather discounted price for audiobooks not bought with credits.
Their usual member’s price for books bought with credits is discounted perhaps 20-30% from list.
This sale discounts 50% off the list price, not the usual member price.
credits cost roughly $10-15 each, depending on whether they are purchased by the month or year, and how many at a time. You can buy more expensive books far more cheaply using credits than you can using these sale prices.
So the best deals for books in the sakes will be those books whose sale price is well below what the member would pay for a credit.
Some books will still be a better deal by purchasing the Kindle book first and then the Audiobook, if there is a good whispersync-for-voice price for the combo.
Some books can be listened to for free if the listener has either Amazon Prime or Kindle Unlimited.
some books can be listened to for free using your local library and your smartphone. Instant downloads. Since libraries vary in how they do this, contact your local library for assistance.
Usually, to get set up with the library to check out audiobooks, you often need to go in just once, or can do it over the phone or figure it out from the library’s webpage.
After that, you checkout the books using your smartphone or tablet.
@f00l I paid $8.33 ea. for 12 credits (1 year/12 credits for $100) so there’s very little that interests me below that price. I’m probably better off to keep sitting on my credits, waiting for the next 2-4-1 sale.
I picked up Krampus by Bron last year for a buck on Amazon last year and have been watching to see if they have a deal on the audiobook. (Great read.) Instead I found this little pornographic Krampus story. If you’re into that.
4.0 out of 5 starsDecent read
December 4, 2017
Book source ~ Kindle Unlimited
Alicia and Mary-Ann run into something more than the regular wildlife when they borrow a cabin in the snowy woods.
Alicia swings both ways, but Mary-Ann doesn’t. However, there’s a little bit of girl-on-girl action (it’s a whole pinecone drugging thing, just go with it) before Krampus makes his nasty appearance. It would be so awesome if humans had a tongue like this monster. So long, so bendy, so…Wowzers!
Starts at 10%, ends at 71%. A few editing errors and the story just ends before Mary-Ann gets her big finish. How rude!
I was wrong about the date if the end of the audible site-wide 50% off sale.
It ends at 11:59pm Pacific Tome in Thursday Dec 14, 2017.
Sale ends December 14, 2017 at 11:59 PM PT. (US). Sale price reflects 50% off Audible.com’s regular price (an additional 20% off on top of the 30% off member discount). Open to active Audible members only. Discount applicable to content sold on Audible.com only.
Www.bookbub.com is a good site for e-books. It has many books by popular authors free or at reduced price to introduce new releases. Such book offers usually last only a few days, so check frequently. If you scroll down to the very bottom of the page, under READERS you will find a link to free books only. Those are from both known and new authors. You do not obtain the books directly from bookbub.com. Instead there are links for Nook, Kindle, Kobo, Sony, Apple, etc. It is not necessary to join to find free ebooks.
These are all whispersync-for-voice enabled. Which means that once the kindle books are purchased, the audible editions are discounted to $12.99, which is near the price of a credit, depending on how a member purchases credits.
Good prices on the audiobook, for people who don’t want to get involved in audible’s credit system.
The kindle prices is good today only.
Once the Kindle version are purchased, the audible editions can be purchased at any time for the whispersync-for-voice price, but Amazon may or may not keep that price forever.
Surprised nobody posted the Audible sale. Two books, one credit (selected titles). All categories are represented, but I wouldn’t necessarily call the selection “vast”.
I noticed The Exorcist 40th anniversary edition is in the select, but the narration sample seems like I wouldn’t enjoy his rendition. A great narrator can make an otherwise mediocre book quite enjoyable, but a bummer narrator can turn the greatest masterpiece into hours of agony.
@sammydog01 I’m a fair weather friend of Audible. Occasionally they send a marketing offer like “Give us another try: 3 months & 3 credits for $6” or whatever. But I got suckered into the “$99 for a year, 12 credits up front” deal last month. $8.25/credit isn’t exactly a bargain, but I’ve been following a few serials, so that gave me the opportunity to catch up on the series. I guess that’s the risk of the daily deals… give you the first in a series for three or four quid, then your stuck for per book prices from there.
@f00l At Cracker Barrel you could buy a book on tape, listen to it on your car trip, and return it at the next Cracker Barrel minus a few dollars. I don’t know if they still do that but it was pretty nice.
Audiobook went huge here in the 90’s. The economy was hot, people took jobs everywhere and had huge commutes.
There were these rent-one-book-at-a-time stores that did very well for a while. They let you reserve books that were out.
1st bad part: they would usually have only one copy of a given book. So if you were doing a series that needed to be done in order, and you were behind a really slow listener, then the reserve line could get long, and you would have to wait forever to get book #6 or something.
My friends got stuck this way, and wound up just buying and reading the paperbacks, in order to skip past the slow person.
2nd bad part:. The markets were for abridged books back then. Because of so many tapes or CDs.
And going to unabridged was a big ongoing hassle for the business, as with a 20-30 tape or CD unabridged book, it was pretty easy for a single tape or CD to get damaged or lost.
But the abridged prefs of that era made sense in a way. What with the pain of the media, and people listening mostly during commutes, that’s what people wanted.
I had portable cassette and CD players for this. I could sometime get unabridged from the library or eBay or one if these stores.
I’m ok with some abridgements for non-fiction, but I hate them for fiction. I figure either the book is worth doing in full, or it isn’t. If it isn’t, then it’s not like I’m about to run out of good books anytime soon …
Then audible opened up. You just needed a digital player. A computer, at first, for most.
And along came the iPod and similar.
Perfect marriage of media and player, before smartphones.
Then there stopped even being much of a sales market for abridged books. People could listen just anyplace; so they wanted the real book.
I still have a few on cassette and CD, for nostalgia. And there are a few books for which the e-media downloadable or streaming rights (to audible/BN/etc) have never been offered.
Incidentally, Sirius used to have an audiobook channel. I don’t know if they still do. It not for me, unless they upgraded the controls; I can’t listen continuously, as that would require.
@f00l Thank you for the reminder. I pretty much exhausted the selection offered this time around. I found four to ad to my library. A couple more looked interesting, but I hate to burn credits on shorter books. I guess I’d rather spend a credit on a long book at everyday rate than 2 short books on sale.
Though I propose a modest modification, for brevity: “January 2018 Book Deals and Discussions”.
Linking both directions. Whoever generates the new month’s topic should create the new topic with appropriate title and link back to previous month’s topic, as well as “ending” the previous month’s topic with a brief announcement and link to new month’s topic.
I think we need a thread for folks who don’t feel much like chatting it up–like "Book Deals MONTH/YEAR NO TALKING. And then mehbe one for “Book Deals MONTH/YEAR Just-a-little-chit-chat” for folks who like writing short missives. And a NO SPOILERS thread too!
Do whatcha feels, it’s all our house, right?