My state has been charging me tax on Amazon since I’ve been using Amazon. Clearly it was already a thing but Meh wasn’t charging me bullshit-ass tax until like two or three weeks ago so I still want answers, DAMN IT.
@Dizavid Amazon has been collecting taxes because they probably have a presence in your state already. Mediocre is collecting now because they probably met your state’s threshold that requires the retailer to collect the taxes from you.
Because I can certainly say that I’ve filled in the line item for use taxes on my tax return. Just like how I’ve never bought a catshirt.
@Dizavid Regardless of when a site started collecting taxes, the site is not charging you tax. In other words, it’s not going to Snapster’s yacht fund. It’s going to your state’s treasurer.
The state is “charging” you tax. The site is just collecting and remitting it.
I harp on this because it’s a good lesson on why people should give a shit about their state and local governments. If you don’t like something they’re doing, you can get involved or get behind someone who wants to do a thing in a way you like better.
@norconkm true, but these are only a dollar each (if we pretend that the chargers really are free). (Yes there is tax, and shipping if you aren’t a VMP, but meh.)
I’ve not needed to purchase rechargable batteries in several years and when I last did so, the good (2000-2500mAh AAs) were $2 or more each.
@baqui63@Bigbearballs I’m not buying them because I have a bunch already. That said, they are cheap and I might buy them for things around home where the low self-discharge (aka precharged) is the main benefit - things like clocks, remotes, scales, etc. I would not buy them for use in mobile devices - things like cameras, GPS, flashlights - whatever else people use AA’s in these days.
the chargers appear to be timer based dumb chargers. They have to charge in pairs, which means it’s bound to overcharge one and undercharge another. Or more probable, overcharge both batteries.
I see your attempt at not being terrible, and appreciate it. Still meh, but I wouldn’t kick it out of bed if it followed me home after the lights came on.
@mike808@narfcake this is an excellent tip. now while loading up on tubes of salmon paste, cheap tote bags, and meat balls, i can get a dozen eneloops to add to my collection.
@mike808@narfcake Hey, this is super good to know! I love shopping at IKEA (was just there yesterday, in fact) so knowing their rechargeable batteries are good stuff is 🖒
@mike808 Yes, 600 mAh seems very low. I recently bought a bunch of low-discharge AAAs called “PowerOwl” to refresh our 6 cordless phones. Rated 1000 mAh, 1.2V, no charger included (I already have a superb Maha). They claim to have great longevity, so far work really well, and were about $1.08 each.
Cheap. Fast. Good. Usually you get to pick only two. In the case of rechargeable batteries, you only get Cheap because they discharge Fast when used, and that ain’t Good.
@djslack@GeneralAnubis What kind of fuckin’ lunatic plans on running out of batteries?!? What the actual fuck is wrong with those irredeemable assholes?!?!?!?!?
@djslack@shahnm Right? Thankfully, usually the moment you run out of batteries means you just used up your last ones to successfully replace some, so hopefully you wouldn’t need more batteries in the time it takes to receive your order from Meh.
Of course, Murphy’s Law could strike, but I feel like the timing was perfect nonetheless.
@shahnm the same kind of dont-give-a-fuck madman who keeps those batteries free and clear of any refrigerator, that’s what kind.
A person who is simultaneously capable of two seemingly opposite things:
Disregarding all of society’s battery rules because they’re just, like, an artificial construct. None of this is real. Like the batteries, we can die and be recharged again, so why stay within some bullshit artificial lines?
@ElieC@PooltoyWolf According to Wikipedia, Rayovac diversified in 2003 and subsequently became Spectrum Holdings. In January 2018, the battery brand was sold to Energizer.
Math does not compute based on the photos.
“16 AA, 8 AAA, 2 Chargers”
Photos show 16 AA in packages (8 each), 8 AAA in packages (4 each) plus 2 charges that includes 4 AA in each. That comes out to a total of 24 AA batteries, not 16. Unless the Photos are lies!
No… Just No. The last battery deal I got was much less than Meh. Many of the batteries were already dead or lose charge quickly. Learned my Meh-son about batteries from this site
been a while since I got rechargeables…what voltage do these run? many rechargeables (in the past) output 1.2 Volts. Do these run at 1.5V? Or are the lower (and relegated to TV remotes)?
@neveraging Every single NiMH rechargable AA or AAA on the market outputs 1.2V, but the discharge curve keeps them above the cutoff threshold for most devices for significantly longer than you’d expect.
Almost any modern device will gladly work on these or any other rechargeable.
Still have 2 boxes of the Eveready Super Charge AAA, still have 2 Mighty Chargers all from Meh.Then i read how weak these are compared with minimum outputs and i just cant pull the trigger ty Meh anyway !!
@DaveFL speedlights are pretty power hungry, aren’t they? Plus, if you’re shooting an event and you have to go change batteries you may miss the best shot. I might carefully weigh the pros and cons before choosing these for something potentially important, but if your shoots are short or it’s just a hobby, there are few reasons they wouldn’t power them for some duration of time.
After dropping my opinion like that and starting to think of some of the reasons they might not be good, I did a little quick research. According to this experiment, NiMH batteries are actually really good for speedlights, with fast recycle times that stay consistent. But with the capacity of these I would expect them to last for about 100 shots on a charge. Maybe fewer.
@Teripie every solar light I have taken apart has had a NiMH AA or AAA (or two) inside it, so I’m inclined to say sure. They’re likely about the quality of the original batteries that come in the lights. And they’re pretty inexpensive.
When I received my batteries and chargers, I was rather stunned to see big inserts in the packaging proclaiming the AAs are 1650 mAh. Upon opening the package and looking at the batteries themselves, they are very clearly 1350 mAh. This seems like either a packaging mistake, or willful deception on Rayovac/Energizer’s part.
Are they perhaps trying to imply that one of these rechargeable batteries equals the lifespan of 1,650 alkaline batteries, or maybe that they are the equivalent to a 1650 mAh alkaline battery? I’m a bit confused.
Specs
What’s in the Box?
2x Chargers
8x AAA Batteries
16x AA Batteries
Price Comparison
Charger: $9.77 (for similar) at Amazon
AAA: $11.70 (for 2x 4-packs) at Amazon
AA: $25.52 (for 2x 8-packs) at Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, July 13th - Thursday, July 16th
Props on the model number: B4TT3R-UP
First!
@wootthereitis First to be second?
@wootthereitis
/giphy so close
/giphy never do that again
Oh, and I almost forgot…
/image refrigerator
@shahnm you forgot for MAYBE 12 minutes
@UncleVinny Yeah… I guess I’m getting sloppy and forgetful in my old age. In the old days, I was never more than 11 minutes late. Tops.
Good deal, lots of rechargeable batteries, this will be good for me to have. Fuck you for charging me tax.
/image catastrophic-avid-shrimp
@Dizavid I’mma just say this one last time: that’s your state doing that.
@Dizavid Blame
the goatSouth Dakota.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota_v._Wayfair,_Inc.
@Dizavid @narfcake
/image south dakota goat
Why do you keep blaming meh when it is your state doing it @Dizavid?
@djslack @therealjrn
My state has been charging me tax on Amazon since I’ve been using Amazon. Clearly it was already a thing but Meh wasn’t charging me bullshit-ass tax until like two or three weeks ago so I still want answers, DAMN IT.
@Dizavid Amazon has been collecting taxes because they probably have a presence in your state already. Mediocre is collecting now because they probably met your state’s threshold that requires the retailer to collect the taxes from you.
Because I can certainly say that I’ve filled in the line item for use taxes on my tax return.
Just like how I’ve never bought a catshirt.
@Dizavid Regardless of when a site started collecting taxes, the site is not charging you tax. In other words, it’s not going to Snapster’s yacht fund. It’s going to your state’s treasurer.
The state is “charging” you tax. The site is just collecting and remitting it.
I harp on this because it’s a good lesson on why people should give a shit about their state and local governments. If you don’t like something they’re doing, you can get involved or get behind someone who wants to do a thing in a way you like better.
@Dizavid @narfcake @shahnm more like South Da-goat-a
I’d buy this if this wasn’t a two-pack, or if I could build my own set.
FYI 1350mAh is pretty horrible for a rechargeable AA (even the low self-discharge variety). Good ones are 2500mAh, OK ones are still ~2000mAh.
@norconkm Just keep them in the refrigerator after you charge them up and things will be a-ok.
@norconkm it’s 1650 brolo
@Bigbearballs @norconkm AA cells are 1350 mAh, not 1650. 1650 would still be bad though.
@Fen_Star @norconkm yes, I am wrong and sorry
@norconkm true, but these are only a dollar each (if we pretend that the chargers really are free). (Yes there is tax, and shipping if you aren’t a VMP, but meh.)
I’ve not needed to purchase rechargable batteries in several years and when I last did so, the good (2000-2500mAh AAs) were $2 or more each.
@norconkm @shahnm really?
@norconkm Yes. The low capacity and the discussion on the candlepower forum changed my mind about getting these to play with.
@baqui63 @norconkm so buy or not?
@baqui63 @Bigbearballs I’m not buying them because I have a bunch already. That said, they are cheap and I might buy them for things around home where the low self-discharge (aka precharged) is the main benefit - things like clocks, remotes, scales, etc. I would not buy them for use in mobile devices - things like cameras, GPS, flashlights - whatever else people use AA’s in these days.
@Bigbearballs it takes a real adult to apologize, and i think you’ve earned our respect, Bigbearballs
@norconkm Came here to say exactly this, but damn it if this isn’t tempting for all of our Wii Remotes!
Pros:
Cons:
I see your attempt at not being terrible, and appreciate it. Still meh, but I wouldn’t kick it out of bed if it followed me home after the lights came on.
Gonna stick with my LaCrosse BC-700 charger.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000RSOV50
What the others have said - these are weak sauce. The AAA size at 600 is super weak.
Pay more for quality rechargables. I like BatteryJunction.com for sourcing batteries. They carry LD (Low Discharge) types and 18650s too.
@mike808 Second the LaCrosse! If what others say and these chargers are timer based and charge pairs only, that’s a big no from me.
@mike808 Ikea is my source because they’re a rebadged Eneloop Pro at an Ikea price. ($7 for four AA/2,450mah.)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmodo.com/are-ikeas-7-rechargeable-batteries-actually-pricey-ene-1823204061/amp
@mike808 @narfcake this is an excellent tip. now while loading up on tubes of salmon paste, cheap tote bags, and meat balls, i can get a dozen eneloops to add to my collection.
@zippyus That tube caviar paste (Kalles) is amazing. Everyone should try it. It goes really well with boiled eggs, for example.
@mike808 @narfcake Hey, this is super good to know! I love shopping at IKEA (was just there yesterday, in fact) so knowing their rechargeable batteries are good stuff is 🖒
@mike808 @narfcake Shipping cost?
@mellowirishgent On what? Sales/Use Tax?
@mike808 Yes, 600 mAh seems very low. I recently bought a bunch of low-discharge AAAs called “PowerOwl” to refresh our 6 cordless phones. Rated 1000 mAh, 1.2V, no charger included (I already have a superb Maha). They claim to have great longevity, so far work really well, and were about $1.08 each.
Cheap. Fast. Good. Usually you get to pick only two. In the case of rechargeable batteries, you only get Cheap because they discharge Fast when used, and that ain’t Good.
@Jonas4321
These will cell out, (ec)statically.
@hchavers
/giphy raucous laughter
“Usually, we sell you a buttload of AA or AAA batteries…”
That is an odd unit of measurement. Who is actually going to verify that it was truly a buttload?
@Kyser_Soze You can simply use the battery to hamster converter app on your phone.
@Jonas4321 @Kyser_Soze U.S. measures in gerbils. Hamsters is the metric standard.
@bainst @Jonas4321 @Kyser_Soze Yes, except they spell it ‘hamstres’…
@bainst @Jonas4321 @Kyser_Soze @shahnm And ‘grebils’ as well.
Wait a minute . . .
Hamstre and Grebil? Wasn’t that a faerie tale?
Looks like convenient timing as I just ran out of AA batteries today!
/giphy lawful eerie change
@GeneralAnubis even more convenient timing would be if you planned on running out of AA batteries at the end of next week.
@djslack @GeneralAnubis What kind of fuckin’ lunatic plans on running out of batteries?!? What the actual fuck is wrong with those irredeemable assholes?!?!?!?!?
@djslack @shahnm Right? Thankfully, usually the moment you run out of batteries means you just used up your last ones to successfully replace some, so hopefully you wouldn’t need more batteries in the time it takes to receive your order from Meh.
Of course, Murphy’s Law could strike, but I feel like the timing was perfect nonetheless.
@shahnm the same kind of dont-give-a-fuck madman who keeps those batteries free and clear of any refrigerator, that’s what kind.
A person who is simultaneously capable of two seemingly opposite things:
@djslack You - you mean… You mean the kind of people who shop at…
Meh…?
Isn’t this a ghetto brand of batteries?
@ElieC In my experience, a long time ago Rayovac was good, then they were sucky for a while, but recently they’ve become good again.
@ElieC @PooltoyWolf According to Wikipedia, Rayovac diversified in 2003 and subsequently became Spectrum Holdings. In January 2018, the battery brand was sold to Energizer.
@ElieC @PooltoyWolf @walarney so these were probably december 2017 overstocks…
/giphy barefoot-acceptable-position
I don’t know why I keep buying batteries…
@ddbelyea because the end is near and you’ll be the most battery prepared!
@ddbelyea Because awesome is as awesome does. Now go get you a nice fridge and complete your destiny.
WORKER BEES! HERCULES! TURKEY GREASE! AWESOME!
What’s the technology? Is it NiMH? NiCD? Something else? I won’t buy without this knowledge. Not going to go research the part numbers either.
@lvmarks
@cinoclav @lvmarks YEAH BUT THAT IS RESEARCH IF I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PACKAGE.
@lvmarks It’s a secret
@ericnear1980 @lvmarks The Secret of NiMH?
@ericnear1980 @j4yx0r @lvmarks
@j4yx0r’s comment deserves more props. All the props, in fact…
/giphy applause
@ericnear1980 @j4yx0r @lvmarks
Um yeah. Ima keep that giphy…
@ericnear1980 @j4yx0r @lvmarks @shahnm It was how big???
/giphy peculiar-adhesive-yam
Math does not compute based on the photos.
“16 AA, 8 AAA, 2 Chargers”
Photos show 16 AA in packages (8 each), 8 AAA in packages (4 each) plus 2 charges that includes 4 AA in each. That comes out to a total of 24 AA batteries, not 16. Unless the Photos are lies!
@dobby10 Maybe that’s why they’re on meh. Packages look like they’re misprinted. I only see 4 AA’s in each package even though it says 8.
@dobby10 The way its packaged 4 are in the back out of site but it’s and 8 pack for sure
No… Just No. The last battery deal I got was much less than Meh. Many of the batteries were already dead or lose charge quickly. Learned my Meh-son about batteries from this site
been a while since I got rechargeables…what voltage do these run? many rechargeables (in the past) output 1.2 Volts. Do these run at 1.5V? Or are the lower (and relegated to TV remotes)?
@neveraging Every single NiMH rechargable AA or AAA on the market outputs 1.2V, but the discharge curve keeps them above the cutoff threshold for most devices for significantly longer than you’d expect.
Almost any modern device will gladly work on these or any other rechargeable.
Still have 2 boxes of the Eveready Super Charge AAA, still have 2 Mighty Chargers all from Meh.Then i read how weak these are compared with minimum outputs and i just cant pull the trigger ty Meh anyway !!
/giphy intelligent-muddled-poltergeist
Any one know if this whould be good in speedlights?
@DaveFL speedlights are pretty power hungry, aren’t they? Plus, if you’re shooting an event and you have to go change batteries you may miss the best shot. I might carefully weigh the pros and cons before choosing these for something potentially important, but if your shoots are short or it’s just a hobby, there are few reasons they wouldn’t power them for some duration of time.
After dropping my opinion like that and starting to think of some of the reasons they might not be good, I did a little quick research. According to this experiment, NiMH batteries are actually really good for speedlights, with fast recycle times that stay consistent. But with the capacity of these I would expect them to last for about 100 shots on a charge. Maybe fewer.
Would these work for solar lights?
@Teripie Just during the daytime.
@Teripie every solar light I have taken apart has had a NiMH AA or AAA (or two) inside it, so I’m inclined to say sure. They’re likely about the quality of the original batteries that come in the lights. And they’re pretty inexpensive.
You missed the boat, Meh. Woot had 2000mAh AA’s a month ago, and I got 24 of them. I’m excessively charged now.
When I received my batteries and chargers, I was rather stunned to see big inserts in the packaging proclaiming the AAs are 1650 mAh. Upon opening the package and looking at the batteries themselves, they are very clearly 1350 mAh. This seems like either a packaging mistake, or willful deception on Rayovac/Energizer’s part.
Are they perhaps trying to imply that one of these rechargeable batteries equals the lifespan of 1,650 alkaline batteries, or maybe that they are the equivalent to a 1650 mAh alkaline battery? I’m a bit confused.