Political Bullshit 2025
7New year, new bullshit.
Wanna share your thoughts on the current political climate? Candidates? Flag pins?
Do that here. We won’t be allowing political discourse in the product threads or other weird places.
You still gotta follow the rules and be respectful to each other. (No name-calling, in particular.)
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My political thought for the day…
Donald Trump is a doodoo head.
(Oops, sorry, I just realised that’s name calling… Is it ok if we name call politicians, just not each other… After all isn’t that what politics is all about these days?
I won’t complain if you delete this for name calling. It was just throw -away silliness comment)
I don’t like politics.
I like video games and art.
Politics aren’t a part of that.
And I like it like that.
I like Lego games. Not that bad to 100%, still have some difficulty curves, GO PLAY ONE.
@Wollyhop Always good for smile, sometimes even a laugh.
@blaineg @Wollyhop that’s only if someone else steps in it
So something I found amusing and I think followers of all political parties might find amusing.
Russia’s foreign minister has warned the US that it must not attempt to claim the Panama canal because it legally belongs to Panama.
@OnionSoup 'Merica: No.
@OnionSoup Russians prefer their hypocrisy to be blatant.
@OnionSoup
Hey Russia can shut the fuck up
All of north and South America have the word America in the name of the continent
We are America
so obviously it all belongs to us
Once we gather all of northern South America except Canada and then we become Canada‘s 11th province that’ll be one pretty big province
@f00l
All empires come to an end, and the American one is no exception. – Robert Kiyosaki
Just thought it wouldn’t be in my lifetime
@Cerridwyn
He sounds like another tRump:
“Robert Kiyosaki… …has again captured the public’s attention with his unconventional financial strategies, this time revealing a staggering $1.2 billion in debt”
@PhysAssist no real clue. I just thought this quote appropriate
@Cerridwyn
Well, I hope he’s wrong, but I’m not sure that he is…
This,too, shall pass. To make it pass faster, we need encourage the failure it must become.
@werehatrack Yeah, here’s the thing: that collapse will come with a fuckload of preventable deaths of very vulnerable people… none of which will impact the very rich people who bought the presidency and executive branch.
2025: now with less subtlety!
@pakopako
…and clearly following the Project 2025 playbook…
Yippee!! A Fresh Page to extol all of the Wonderful, Marvelous, Stupendous accomplishments of #47!! Can’t wait to help keep everyone informed of the non-stop greatness that will be happening each and every day thanks to the BEST President EVER … Donald J. Trump!!
@IndifferentDude Are you a pardoned Jan. 6th
rioterpeaceful tourist?@Kyeh Nope. Darn it! Couldn’t afford the trip that day.

@IndifferentDude

@shahnm Yep! Bidumb was the worstest Prez EVER!! Even badder than Obummer!!
@IndifferentDude
@Wollyhop
@Kyeh
@Wollyhop Definitely some villainous mastermind vibes there.
@Kyeh @Wollyhop I don’t think she is very happy she is back in the limelight back in the white house. Of course she was an illegal immigrant herself. Makes me wonder what she thinks about what Trump is up to. And I wonder what she had to sign to make sure she is rich for life. This time she won’t have her son as an excuse to escape.
@Kidsandliz @Wollyhop Oh, she’s already said she’s splitting her time between the White House, New York, and Florida. I bet she does mostly exactly what she wants to do.
@Kyeh @Wollyhop I figured she hid her face on purpose with that hat so people couldn’t see how irritated she was to have to show up. She certainly looked unhappy.
@Kidsandliz @Wollyhop People are saying she did it to keep him frim kissing her!
It worked, too.
@Kyeh @Wollyhop Your explanation would make sense too. Who’d want to kiss him? Not me in a million years. Too gross.
@Wollyhop Good call!
@Wollyhop She wore that getup for several reasons-so Trump would get poked in the eye when he tried to kiss her (which he did), so people couldn’t see the disgust in her face that she had to pretend to like this FLOTUS gig for the next 4 years, and so we couldn’t see that her several face lifts were starting to go south.
A real model person for young women to look up to-find yourself a sugar daddy who you don’t even have to like (see admitted as such she didn’t like him the first time she met him), get yourself a green card and citizenship based on {don’t be gross}, bring your parents over as anchor parents, and get increasingly richer by rewriting your prenup every time your husband wants you to do something.
She is living the American dream.
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@Wollyhop I don’t know why but I got strong Michael Jackson vibes from the outfit. I’m disappointed she didn’t start a flash-dance during the inauguration, have some of the senators from both sides join in. It could have really helped heal America’s divide.
@Felton10 @Wollyhop oh I am sure {I like to make sexist jokes.}
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@ndimitru @Wollyhop {I, too, like to make sexist jokes.}
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This was just awkward for everyone involved, really…
As awkward as Von Cheeto pardoning all the Jan 6th Antifa rioters, @shahnm?
@haydesigner @shahnm Do you have any concept of how ignorant that your statement appears in light of the former president’s unprecedented, in numbers and types, pardons?!
@haydesigner @shahnm pardoning the creator of the Silk Road dark web site is a little more curious. Not surprising he pardoned those that backed his coup attempt… But to pardon one of the largest drug barons of all time, without any real justification other than “his followers voted for me” is a bit eyebrow raising.
@haydesigner This was just a funny statement from Harris, given the outcome of the inauguration. I though it might lighten the mood a bit. Apparently you have no appetite for humor at the moment, at least regarding the subject of politics.
I’m not going to try to dissuade you of your biases, except to say that this kind of complaint doesn’t seem particularly principled unless you first condemned the wretched pardons of the wretched criminals that Biden’s handlers had him sign…
@haydesigner @shahnm My personal belief is that the whole “President may pardon people” is not a good thing. It blurs the line between the branches of government, and gives the President a power which he doesn’t need to perform his job. He is not judicial. It’s an untidy oversight that invites politicians to abuse it, no matter which side of the political divide they come from. No political office should have more power than it needs to perform it’s duties.
I feel like the whole office of presidency has bloated in power from what was originally intended (and I’m not blaming any individual or party here)… Executive Orders are abused by both sides and all presidents these days. The President was never meant to be a legislative office either, yet it has taken on more and more of such a role over the years.
The bloat in power of the Presidency over what was originally intended, is not a good thing for democracy. I’m not just saying that because Trump is in office, I felt that way when Biden and Obama were in office too. (although they scared me less)
The only problem is, it would probably require a President-in-office who sees it as a problem, to close the loopholes… and no President is going to work in favor of limiting their own power.
@haydesigner @OnionSoup I agree wholeheartedly!
Of the people, by the people, for the people. That is all…
@haydesigner @OnionSoup
https://cointelegraph.com/news/trump-pardon-ross-ulbricht-silk-road
Ulbricht was arrested in 2013 and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole in 2015 for his role in the operation and creation of the Silk Road… Ulbricht… received a far harsher sentence than many users, such as Matthew Verran Jones, who ranked in the top 5% of drug dealers on the site and received six years in jail.
Some questioned Ulbricht’s key role in the Silk Road, arguing that he didn’t deserve to die in prison for contributing to a marketplace where users could freely exchange goods, both legal and illegal… While Ulbricht did not deny his involvement in Silk Road operations, he repeatedly contested allegations that he was the sole person in charge or the original creator of the platform… “I didn’t start the Silk Road, my predecessor did. From what I understand, it was an original idea to combine Bitcoin and Tor to create an anonymous market. Everything was in place, he just put the pieces together,” Ulbricht said in a Forbes interview in 2013.
@haydesigner @shahnm “The Scum that worked to convict him” indicates that this was a personal vendetta against individuals in the justice department rather than a legitimate pardoning. I don’t see anything above that suggests he shouldn’t be in prison…
@haydesigner @OnionSoup No one is arguing that he shouldn’t have been in prison. The point is that he served far longer than anyone else (and was scheduled for decades more), for a crime that was no worse than the others’.
His sentence was extreme because his prosecutors decided to be his persecutors based upon his politics. That double standard cannot be allowed in our judicial system.
Just because you don’t like someone or their views does not mean you can punish them more aggressively. Just because someone is aligned with your political views does not mean you can be lenient or look the other way.
None of this should be partisan.
@haydesigner @shahnm he’s responsible for countless deaths and countless ruined lives. His prison sentence is not unusual for someone responsible for 100’s of deaths.
That shouldn’t be partisan!
@haydesigner @OnionSoup His prison sentence was different from others’ who were convicted of the same crime for the same reason. That’s partisan.
@haydesigner @shahnm Happens every day, different judge, different jury, people get different sentences. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t deserved, and doesn’t mean circumstances were not considered that made one get worse than another. The penalty fits the crime.
The only “partisan” part of it is him being let free because he supported the sitting president (it was clearly a personal issue not a justice issue by the language in the President’s justification). That’s the only time partisan politics has played a part.
A man who is responsible for countless deaths gets to walk free just because he supports Trump.
@haydesigner @lomerson2 @shahnm Do you have any idea of what your statement says about your grasp of the facts? I don’t agree with all of Biden’s pardons but most were preemptive based on Trump’s threats to go after his political enemies real or imagine.
Trump pardoned people who committed real violence against police officers. What message does that send to people-two sets of laws for rich and powerful people and another for others.
Stop hiding using who Biden pardoned as an excuse to say it was ok to pardon the criminals who Trump pardoned.
I’m sure you feel more at risk knowing Dr. Fauci is walking around a free man given his decades of service to prevent diseases as opposed someone who tried to kill an officer guarding the Capitol.
I don’t.
@Felton10 @haydesigner @lomerson2 @shahnm
This is exactly why I don’t think Presidents should be able to pardon people, it just invites corruption. Giving one man the power to circumvent the law and the justice department is just wrong.
There’s definitely corruption on both sides here. It doesn’t make Biden right and it doesn’t make Trump right… it makes them both in the wrong.
@Felton10 @haydesigner @lomerson2 @OnionSoup
Couple of quick things:
Not a single J6 protestor hurt any police officers. You are either unwittingly or purposefully being gaslighted by the left’s political talking points.
For the same reasons it is easy for you to believe the silly fallacies and lies about #1, you will be hard pressed to learn the truth from our domestic “media” about Biden’s horrific pardons and commutations. That info is out there, if you want it, though. For example:
Joe Biden commutes death sentences of 37 including child killers, mass murderers: Full list
@haydesigner @lomerson2 @OnionSoup @shahnm “Not a single J6 protestor hurt any police officers”-REALLY? No use trying to argue anything with one so misinformed of what really happened.
And BTW-the37 people whose death sentences he commuted are still in jail for life-not like the J6 criminals who are free to commit more crimes. Bet Faux Snews never mentioned that.
@Felton10 @haydesigner @lomerson2 @OnionSoup Then don’t argue with me. I honestly don’t care. I’m have no misconceptions that I or anyone can dissuade you of your fervent beliefs, or the idea that they are based in truth. You like to be told what you want to believe, and you like to believe what you’re told by those who cater to that.
There’s an industry of “media” who will tell you of the confessions of the “guilty”. They might not mention that those confessions were coerced out of terrified citizens who had no idea that they would be persecuted and incarcerated for years as political prisoners without due process, and would thus say anything to ease their plight…
Enjoy that, I guess.
@haydesigner @OnionSoup @shahnm
Then there’s this:
Federal prosecutors alleged that Ulbricht had paid $730,000 in murder-for-hire deals targeting at least five people, because they purportedly threatened to reveal the Silk Road enterprise. Prosecutors believed that no contracted killing actually occurred. Ulbricht was not charged in his trial in New York federal court with murder for hire, but evidence was introduced at trial supporting the allegations. The district court found by a preponderance of the evidence that Ulbricht probably commissioned the murders. The possibility that Ulbricht had commissioned murders was considered by the judge in sentencing Ulbricht to life and was a factor in the Second Circuit’s decision to uphold the sentence. Ulbricht was separately indicted in federal court in Maryland on a single murder-for-hire charge, alleging that he contracted to kill one of his employees (a former Silk Road moderator).[42] Prosecutors moved to drop this indictment after his New York conviction and sentence became final.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht#:~:text=Ulbricht identifies as a libertarian.
@shahnm
Are you completely blind""- all you had to do was watch the actual video to see them beating the cops- with all manner of potentially deadly implements- sometime on multiple different camera angles so you can see exactly who and what they were doing.
More than a few of them even signed sworn statement to that effect in making their guilty please-and at least several recanted their actions as having been unduly influenced by their belief that Trump was being honest in saying that the election was stolen- which it obvious;ly was NOT!
@shahnm
Really- the “Times of India” is your reliable reputable source of factual information?
@haydesigner @lomerson2 @OnionSoup @shahnm “Without due process” most were found guilty by a jury of their peers. Hard to argue with anyone who is so limited in their ability to process any real information. Keep swallowing the lies that Trump is shoveling to the {people who support him.}
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@PhysAssist As soon as you can prove who specifically was beating a cop, I’ll be all ears. It’s very clear that this was an op, orchestrated to create a desired outcome. A lot of otherwise good people got swept up in it - who can blame them for thinking protesting wasn’t all that terrible a thing? After all, with all of the (unpunished) burning, breaking, killing, and mayhem unleashed by antifa and leftist activists over the past few years, one might begin to think wandering through the capitol after hours wouldn’t have been that big a deal. No one seemed to make much of a fuss when leftist protestors entered the halls of congress to scream at and threaten senators during the Obamacare vote, for example…
@PhysAssist
I have no idea. I’ll wager anything you ask that they’re more honest than the NYT, WaPo, and the propaganda media here, though. Anyway, you quoted al jazeera and some other known toilet paper rags below, so I’m not sure you’re really seeking journalistic integrity…
@shahnm
You were all about hating what you called the divisiveness created by or enhanced by the political thread before the election
Now you seem to want to participate in full
OK
whatever
MAN OH MAN… absolutely nobody got my point from my original comment.
The convservative media has spent YEARS convincing all their listeners and readers that it was NOT those super America-loving patriotic Trump lovers who stormed the capitol, attacked scored of police, and committed acts of desecration.
No no no… it was ANTIFA who did it, not conservatives!!!
So now Trump just pardoned all the Antifa rioters.
Huh.
Now you seem to want to participate in full
OK
whatever
@f00l You’re right. I’ve had a fucked up couple of days, and I think I unloaded here. Having way too much free time today because the weather canceled most of what I otherwise had scheduled definitely greased the wheels…
I need to put myself into a time-out and get back to snarky humor and dad jokes.
I do like politics. I do like all of you - whether or not we agree about politics. I’m sorry that some of my posts were clearly just trolling…
@shahnm You know that’s fake, right?
@shahnm
Ok.
FWIW if one shows too much of oneself on certain hot button topics esp political ones … there are often or usually consequences in relationship and reputations.
Some people get enhanced. Or enhanced within a preferred demographic
Others don’t.
I doubt there’s anything much to be done about preventing that. (Here or elsewhere)
Anyone really think this was accidental?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.france24.com%2Fen%2Famericas%2F20250121-musk-repeatedly-makes-gesture-likened-to-nazi-salute-at-trump-rally&psig=AOvVaw3YvFH0BKA6pNleMYaNj2uG&ust=1737641693996000&source=images&opi=89978449
@Cerridwyn absolutely not an accident. Now, I’m not saying Elon did it because he was a nazi but Trump makes a very similar (if less brazen) salute at his rallies and Elon is simply copying.
I don’t think Trump intends it as a nazi salute, but he does openly admire a lot of dictators, current and historical, and I think he probably is subconsciously envious of the nazi salutes and wants that same kind of recognition which is why he makes that salute from time to time.
@Cerridwyn @OnionSoup
Really… You guys can do better than this.
@Cerridwyn @OnionSoup
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5097676-elon-musk-defended-salute-criticism/amp/
https://thehill.com/video/dc-bureau-elon-musk-thanks-and-salutes-crowd/10385744
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), a nonprofit focused on combating antisemitism, defended tech billionaire Elon Musk’s “awkward” gesture during a Monday celebratory event which some critics panned as a fascist salute.
“This is a delicate moment. It’s a new day and yet so many are on edge. Our politics are inflamed, and social media only adds to the anxiety,” the ADL wrote in a Monday post on Musk’s social platform X. “It seems that @elonmusk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge.”
@shahnm watch the full video and see the difference
@TcxvmeS
In that, if you really want to hitch yourself to this puerile fiction, Kamala actually gave a Hitler salute to her audience, while Elon symbolically grabbed his heart and threw it out to his audience?
Do you really believe that either of those individuals was trying to symbolize sympathy for the Nazi cause??
Find policy differences of substance. We can discuss and debate things. We can, if we want, learn from each other. But this “Hitler” stuff is just utterly inane.
@Cerridwyn @OnionSoup
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-salute-reaction-right-wing-extremists-1235241866/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy48v1x4dv4o
@shahnm @TcxvmeS
Not when President Must also supported ultra-right fascist parties in Germany [AfD]-
https://apnews.com/article/germany-scholz-elon-musk-far-right-afd-95cc5325bde8f5a0065da9dad98da926
Also:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/22/adl-faces-backlash-for-defending-elon-musks-raised-arm-gesture
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/21/the-gesture-speaks-for-itself-germans-divided-over-musks-apparent-nazi-salute
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/01/22/did-elon-musk-give-a-nazi-salute-and-does-it-play-into-the-hands-of-neo-fascist-groups
https://jewishpublicaffairs.org/news/jcpa-condemns-elon-musks-fascist-salute-at-trump-inauguration-rally/
@PhysAssist @TcxvmeS Ok then. Let’s quote every single source who would naturally go here, because this is the sort of garbage they’ve pretty much done ever since they decided Orange Man Bad. If you decide to move on from 2016, I’d love to talk more…
It’s not humanly possible to be this willfully ignorant.
@haydesigner That is exactly the point I’ve been trying to make.
@Wollyhop Now that’s funny.
President Trump’s near-total pardon of Jan. 6 rioters was denounced by the Fraternal Order of Police, the largest police union in the U.S., and the International Association of Chiefs of Police on Tuesday.
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/22/police-union-trump-jan-6-pardons
And one of the rioters has refused the pardon.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvged988377o
@rockblossom
https://pjmedia.com/catherinesalgado/2025/01/21/exclusive-fbi-whistleblower-who-exposed-j6-weaponization-speaks-out-on-pardons-n4936217
Steve Friend is an FBI whistleblower and now a podcaster who lost his job and found himself the target of outrageous federal persecution after he respectfully challenged his superiors on the unconstitutional, illegal, biased campaign against Jan. 6 protestors. He and fellow whistleblowers who call themselves “The Suspendables” saw up close and personal just how terrible the corruption in the FBI was, and now Friend is praising Trump for pardoning or commuting the sentences of nearly all Jan. 6 prisoners. Friend told me, “Blanket pardons are the correct decision. Regardless of the fact pattern for any particular J6 case, the federal government made a deliberate decision to depart from its obligation to follow due process. When that happens, the justice system in a free country has no alternative but to consider cases irrevocably tainted and every defendant must go free.”
@rockblossom
She’s an honest and honorable person- who served her time, and recanted her support for tRump and the Republican’ts.
@PhysAssist @rockblossom It’s her right. Perhaps she being principled. Perhaps she made a few bucks - we’ll eventually find out. In any case, it’s pretty easy to decline a pardon years after you’re already out…
Common Sense has been resurrected in America!!
Thank you Mr. President!! 
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-department-blocks-pride-blm-flags-from-embassies-outposts-one-flag-policy
@IndifferentDude {redacted} I mean those who think that they were denied something because some minority got in front of them when in fact it was their own limitations and inadequacies that prevented them from getting ahead. Those are the type of {lycanthropes} that Trump prays upon and follows him.
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@Felton10 Can we dispense with the ad hominems?
@shahnm Your comments seem to be well thought out and made by someone who is intelligent but the substance of them lack any relationship to what actually occurred so if the shoe fits.
Guess I would be upset also if I had nothing to back up the outrageous statements I made (ie no police were attached and no one got due process).
@Felton10 Right back at you.
But anyway if anything I said earlier seemed in any way personal or unnecessarily inflammatory, I apologize. We’re going to disagree about a lot of things, but I don’t want to be disagreeable.
@shahnm No I understand where you ae coming from and if any of my comments seemed too personal I didn’t mean them to be, I apologize also.
I’m sure like you when someone says something that are inconsistent with the facts as I believe them to be it makes you lash out at the source of those “facts”.
TL; DR for this thread so far:
https://x.com/i/status/1881949803946680626
Finally, content on Twitter worth watching:
https://x.com/esherukwaku/status/1881826468097147348?s=46&t=GjXW4PhG0s7kgSMl8GkTkw&mx=2
It seems as if the definition of a hostage has changed
Proof Michelle Obama is a nazi, and Elon clearly isn’t.
@haydesigner Oh man… I don’t think you meant to, but you just really reinforced a stereotype here…
Maybe you’re just “interposing” and it’s going over my head…
Ah, you’re right @Limewater… I meant Kamala, not Obama.
Whoa!!
ANOTHER WIN FOR AMERICA!! I’m not sure how much more WINNING I can take!! 
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-reinstates-transgender-military-ban-bid-rid-dei-from-military
I’m glad my colleague at NASA, one of the kindest, most thoughtful people I know, retired before they could be hit by the anti-DEI McCarthyism that went out today. They did their best to make sure our national space program was safer, and that “safety” didn’t just mean “for white men of a certain size”.
Just 3 years ago, there was a fascinating virtual symposium on NASA’s work. If you’re interested, it hasn’t been taken down yet: https://www.nasa.gov/spaceflight-for-everybody-virtual-symposium/
They are, incidentally, one of the best Christians I know, exemplifying the idea that we would know Christians by their deeds, not by show of symbols or the half-assed performances people like Trump put on for the cameras.
@brainmist Yeah, they talk a good talk but how would they include the following people to reach the so-called “Spaceflight for Everybody”:
Get the point? Not Everybody can be included no matter how well intentioned your dreams for them be included are!
@IndifferentDude Did you watch the symposium?
We get it, dude, you’re bitter that you know you can’t compete even with the advantages of race and gender, much less if you don’t get bonus points for those factors. Have you considered actually trying to improve yourself, instead of hating on the people better than you?
@brainmist @IndifferentDude I think you meant to say people different from you.
@brainmist @IndifferentDude
@brainmist I guess all the {wonderful} self-appointed elites consider disagreement as “hate” in their feeble minds. That’s fine; you have my sincerest sympathies for your misguided superiority.
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Can wait for all of the unqualified Trump’s nominees to fuck up everything due to their lack of experience, personal failings and blind allegiance to the Orange Fuhrer. That will be must see TV.
@Felton10
“I certainly can too”
I’m in no rush for that to happen
@chienfou Meant “Can’t” of course.
@Felton10
I stand by my desire for it NOT to happen.
@Felton10 I thinking Hegseth will put on the best show with RFK Jr. in the #2 spot if he (horrors!) gets confirmed.
@ItalianScallion Think RFK Jr. and Gabert will be defeated by the Senate as the most unqualified of all the Trump unqualified he has nominated. Everyone he nominated did something for him and got his attention in some way or another. Even the ones who have some experience are just plain ignorant (Rubio for example). And Guilfoyle for ambassador to anyplace-give me a break-she got that so she wouldn’t make a stink when Trump Jr. kicked her to the curb.
Hegseth got confirmed as the best of the worst. With his track record and lack of experience, no one should hire him for anything, but Republican senators are saving their “no” votes for the worst or the worst less they get “primaried” by Trump. Trump never wanted Jr. anyway but promised him and if he doesn’t get confirmed he can say he tried. No big loss anyway.
Well now, would you look at that!!
Putin even acknowledges Biden’s stolen election!! 
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/25/politics/video/putin-praises-trump-chance-lkl-digvid
This All-Inclusive, Liberal Chant Is Taking Over The Country And Once You Hear It You’ll Understand Why
The WINNING just keeps on going … and going … and going!!

My letter to the editor about to send:
I know a thing or two about bullying. In junior high, I was bullied by a classmate for several months before I decided to stand up to him. I got a black eye for my trouble but low and behold, we became friends and he actually became my protector against others who tried to bully me. So standing up him was the best course of action. Fast forward to today.
Trump is bullying everyone for everything. Threats and intimidation galore. Others are trying to get on his good side by contributing millions to his inauguration, getting rid of DEI from their corporations, threats of tariffs, and voting for all the incompetents he nominated for cabinet and government positions. Trump threatens to “primary” elected officials who dare to cross him But to ignore or give into him is not the way to deal with a bully. That only emboldening them to bully more. As I learned, the most effective way is to stand up to the bully and confront them and maybe duck. They are not used to that.
With Trump the term “Bully Pulpit” is just not an meaningless term but a way of life.
Thought it would take longer for the dog do do to hit the fan but never say never to someone who is totally out of control and only thinks about himself and not the country he was elected to serve.
Blaming DEI for the plane crash in the Potomac saying he had no proof but it was only common sense (of which he has zero) bared his racist streak for all to see. And saying he was only going to focus on illegal immigrants who committed crimes to deport first-well how has that worked out in the more than 50% may be here illegally but have committed no crime. Any blacks or hispanics rethinking their vote for Trump?
He thinks DEI are incompetent for positions in his administration. I will put them up against the list of unqualified people he nominated-Gaetz, Kennedy and Gabbert to name the worse.
I’m going to review the cases of each of the 1/6 defendants individually to see which ones deserve pardons-yeh right-lets let them all out even the ones who beat the shit out of the police because they did it for me.
Prices are going to come down when I take office. Saw a dozen eggs for 5.99 today and more pain to come with the tariffs on both sides.
Imposed tariffs on Canada even though less than 1 10th of 1 percent of the fentanyl comes thought the Canadian border. That is true also for illegal crossing also. Yet he doesn’t say what specific steps he wants taken to remove the tariffs because he doesn’t have a clue as that would take some brain power to do which we all know that he is lacking in.
We all know the economy and immigration were the main reason he got elected and when those turn south quickly they will effect his supporters the quickest and the most and I will sit by and laugh and laugh as their misery and suffering is out there for all to see.
A dozen eggs start at $6.99 where I live… well, I haven’t checked Trader Joe’s prices yet. The real problem for me is getting a new car. Last week the clutch cable broke again. It’s a $400 part that requires lots of hours to put in. I’m going to have it done, keep the car, and risk no major repairs like that will happen until the tariffs are dropped. And of course, used cars are going to go up in price because new ones are going to go up in price. Thanks a pantload, you {incredible human}.
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@ItalianScallion eggs? what eggs? shelf is empty
@Cerridwyn Hmmm… time to get some laying hens?
@Cerridwyn @ItalianScallion That is of course if the bird flu hasn’t gotten to them yet. But don’t worry you won’t know if they are infected or not because Trump has rolled back all the regulations which monitor and report such information.
@Felton10 @ItalianScallion
actually Target had some today
Egglands Best only, and 9 bucks a dozen
@Cerridwyn @Felton10 @ItalianScallion
You’ll never know when to worry about avian flu now:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/cdc-disease-detectors-fired-trump-administration-agency-cuts-doge-rcna192420
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/02/17/nx-s1-5300052/federal-employees-layoffs-cdc-nih-fda
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/02/18/trump-health-firings-fda-cdc/ [pay wall]
https://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/trump-administration-fires-thousands-hhs
@Cerridwyn My local Trader Joe’s was restocking eggs from a stack of large boxes. Didn’t see the prices, but on Feb. 7 I paid $3.49 for a dozen cage-free large browns.
@ItalianScallion yeah they have announced that they’re using it as a loss leader
Damn STRAIGHT!! No {stop your phobic nonsense} allowed!! USA! USA!! USA!!!
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@IndifferentDude Not allowed:
{More phobic nonsense.}
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@Felton10 @IndifferentDude You’re {redacted} if you think that that is just one party doing that stuff.
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@Felton10 I wonder why that little bit in info ONLY showed up on FOX (Fake On Xtreme)
They were trying to Project what the Perverted god (Old Wack DonOLD ) was.
@Felton10 @IndifferentDude
So Please name 2-3 things that the Dems have done that the Repubs have not done.
Plus since Repubs claim to be So Moral & believer in Jesus, Start with Moral issues, before you go to other stuff.
@mycya4me Are you ready??
Dems tried to force everyone to adhere to the idiocracy of LGBTQWXYZ bullcrap. Thank God the Republicans are mature and no longer play make believe. Praise God Trump is reversing the nonsense!! There are only 2 Genders!!
Dems believe it’s OK to ignore the laws as long as it benefits them. And their enemies are fair-game to be persecuted for made-up or perceived crimes. Again, Praise God it’s time for them to pay BIGLY for their evil deeds against democracy.
I’ll leave it at 2 as {redacted}
@IndifferentDude Claiming to be Pro Life then Supporting/ Worshiping DJT #45. OMG that is such a UnHoly Double Standard/ height of Hypocrisy!
As DJT #45 has Paid for many Abortions! After committing several dozen Adulteries & being a Pedophile! The Blood of all those dead babies in on you Hands & Head! I am only using the same standards Repubs use on Dems!
@IndifferentDude So Please name 2-3 things that the Dems have done that the Repubs have not done.
Plus since Repubs claim to be So Moral & believer in Jesus, Start with Moral issues, before you go to other stuff.
NO Repub has been able to answer this Question! I Highly doubt you can either!
@mycya4me You OK?? Repeating the same questions I already answered?? Better get to a pyschiatrist ASAP; your TDS appears to be terminal!!
@Felton10
…and BTW:

@Cerridwyn

Great!
Also:
WHO’S THE BOSS??
MAGA BABY!! 
@IndifferentDude You mean the buffoon. Mexico had already committed to send 15k troops to the border and Canada last year said they would spend 1.5 million to secure the border last year. So both the 10k troops were already in the process of being sent and the 1.3 million was already on the way.
The “best and the brightest” advisors were too stupid to tell him that so he looked like the horses rear that well all know he is. And his {redacted} bought this steaming load of horse excrement as a the truth and a win. Funny but not surprising.
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@Felton10 Maybe a smidgeon of what you say “may” be true, but if Trump hadn’t forced them to act they never would have followed through on their “promises”! They’d still be taking us for fools like they did when Bidumb (actually Obummer was pulling the strings) was in “charge”.
@IndifferentDude Let me get back to you on what you are saying after I hear what the real President Elon Musk has to say.
And BTW-your name calling tells us all we need to know about the validity of your arguments and your thought process in all this.
@Felton10 MY name calling??
Well, if that’s what you call it then I’ve learned from the Master! Thank you for teaching me and I hope I’m making you proud!
@IndifferentDude Hey I wasn’t the person who threatened to disclose my name online because that is all you and the MAGA’s have at your disposal-threats and intimidation-no substance to any of your arguments.
And then when you were slapped down by the powers that be, you came back with the tail between you legs BS excuse you were having a bad day. Not a bad day-a bad life-that showed exactly what type of person you really are. We all know that.
@Felton10 You sure are stunning when you’re angry and think you’re right. Love ya, my bestest friend!!
@IndifferentDude Hate to disappoint you but never was and never will be your best friend. My guess if you don’t have many if any at all.
@Felton10 Trump just signed an Executive Order that you are my PERMANENT Best Friend! Oh joy!! Have a great evening buddy!
@IndifferentDude Oh shit. Knew his executive orders were getting out of control.
@Felton10
@Felton10 @shahnm except, well, China. Haven’t read that is now on pause yet. And they are playing
trade warchess back. At least as of this morning.@Felton10 @Kidsandliz Don’t read too much into a funny meme t-shirt. It doesn’t cover all of the nuances… It’s just funny. As was @Felton’s comic above it.
@Felton @Felton10 @shahnm I’m not. I thought it was funny too (and his as well). Hopefully it will be true, presuming they back off of China.
@Felton10 I’m just amused that Republicans who used to cheer for free trade, lowering government oversight, and low taxes are now the ones cheering for more taxes, more legislation against individuals, and no free-trade.
Reagan was a major proponent of free-trade, and NAFTA got it’s roots in Bush administration, even if Clinton signed it.
What happened here? Besides someone who doesn’t understand economics becoming President? It’s pure tribalism, people who once were against tariffs and government oversight are now for it because their sports team… sorry their political party… now is headed by someone for it.
The truth is, Trump isn’t a republican, he just hijacked the party and the voting populace are {redacted}. He combines the worst of the left with the worst of the right to create new levels of ineptitude.
Republicans who voted for Trump (because they always vote Republican) got hoodwinked big time.
How many more lies is the Orange Cheeto going to tell before the people who voted for him wake up to realized his full of shit and only has his best interests at heart.
Of course the biggest one was that he was going to go over each 1/6 case individually to determine which should be pardoned and then he pardoned everyone.
Said he knew nothing about Project 2025 and his budget director, a co-author of Project 2025 just got confirmed.
Said he could settle the Ukraine was the first day he was in office and think it is still going on.
Said the price of eggs would go down when he was in office and now admits the price of eggs and everything else won’t be going down anytime soon.
And I am sure the people who are government employees and are being forced out are excited he plans to spend the money saved on them losing their jobs on developing Gaza as a beach resort. Not to mention the Arabs who voted for him thinking he was their best choice now find that Gaza residents who wanted to return home will be displaced permanently.
And just waiting for the bird flu to become a problem with an anti-vaxxer like RFK Jr. at the head of HHS.
@Felton10 So you’re mad that Trump hasn’t fixed all of the problems, scandals, and general global catastrophes generated by Biden’s handlers just yet? Hang in there, Champ - he’s gettin’ it done! Patience is a virtue, dontcha know…
shahnm He is creating more problems, more scandals, and more global messes than anyone {redacted}.
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@Felton10 Nah. I’m going to be great. So will you, even though you’ll be too grouchy to actually notice. That’s ok, though. Conservatives have been saving liberals from themselves for generations. It’s a thankless job, but hey, that’s what the good guys do!
@shahnm As you noted I will be ok also, but am worried about all the people who believed that DEI hires are the reason for their lack of success in the business world and that everything Trump is going to do will fix their miserable existence.
Can’t wait watch the MAGA’s realize that the only person standing in their way to success was them and their lack of education (or their degree from Trump U) and Trump can’t fix any of their problems and that listening to his lies was their problem all along.
@Felton10

Actually:

Last [for now], but not least:

@PhysAssist Great collection of political cartoons-everyone of them true.
It occurs to me that a whole lot of people didn’t pay attention to the Yeltsin trajectory.
@brainmist Also, @meh? Can we get a block function for idiots? Because yeah, I can ignore them, but they’re still a nuisance.
{Just FYI - @meh isn’t an employee or involved with Meh. That person has had the username since before Meh was Meh}
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@brainmist If everyone blocked anyone they considered an idiot, there wouldn’t be much of a forum left…
Just in case anyone is confused about "DEI hires:
@blaineg I so agree, But you for got their sperm donor! Which should be rounded up as Illegals AS their Mothers are all imports.
@blaineg @mycya4me Nah, according to your Demoncratic folks, if they were born on American soil then they can stay!! Nice try though.
@blaineg @IndifferentDude BUT using Repub standard Anyone that came to what became N. America 1492 or Later that Raped, Killed or stole Property, That is without the Permission of the Native people of the land are 100% illegal. So when are you going to pack, as you are an Illegal alien!
@mycya4me Um, YOU FIRST since you ALSO fit that description and definition plus you brought up the subject! Your silly game of “GOTCHA” backfired.

P.S.: I actually have Permission from the Native Bacheeítche who goes by the name of {a pretty racist joke}.
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@IndifferentDude BTW I was not playing silly game of “GOTCHA” so of course it could not Backfire on me, Just on all that tired to play.
With that Joke of a Made-up name … HAHAHAHA. Start packing !
@mycya4me You’re STILL drunk??
I thought you went to Church this past Sunday instead of watching the Big Game … must have been the church of satan!! 
@IndifferentDude My question is what are you talking about yourself being Drunk. I never started drinking during the time most do. Plus not a good use of Money, AS You can only truly RENT Booze! In goes into end (Mouth) & comes out the Bottom.
@IndifferentDude FYI the Devil really hates me. Don’t want me around!
But it sounds like you LIKE going to church of satan!!
‘This Party Lied to Me While Stealing My Tax Dollars’: Former Biden Supporter Denounces the Democrat Party in Explosive Video
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/this-party-lied-me-while-stealing-my-tax/
Isaiah Carter, a former staunch Democrat and Biden supporter, has publicly renounced his allegiance to the Democratic Party.
Carter, who not only voted for Biden but also contributed financially and featured prominently in Biden’s celebratory “America the Beautiful” video post-election, has expressed deep regret and anger toward the party he once called home.
Carter’s announcement came through a video titled, “I hereby renounce the Democratic Party,” where he lambasted the party for betraying its core principles and engaging in what he described as deceitful and fraudulent activities.
According to Carter, the Democrats have misrepresented their stance on several key issues, including their commitment to the middle class, peace, and assistance to the impoverished.
Carter:
“This f***ing political party, the Democratic Party, has lied to us about everything. They’ve lied about being the party of the middle class. They’ve lied about being the party of peace. They’ve lied about being the party that wants to help poor people.
What the last several weeks have proven to us all is that this is a cadre of criminals, losers, and spoiled children of affluent parents who are more concerned about looking good than actually doing good.
These are people who are more concerned about looking like they are doing something for the American people than actually doing things for the American people.
That’s why I’m so angry—because this party lied to me while stealing my tax dollars. The Democratic Party lied to us all while they brought in millions of illegal immigrants for their own political purposes for the last four years—20 to 30 million illegal aliens brought in.”
Carter accused the Democrat Party of using African Americans as tools to propagate their agenda.
Perhaps the most explosive of his claims touched on the operations of USAID. Carter called the agency “probably the largest money-laundering operation in American history,” comparing the alleged corruption within the Democrat Party to the infamous schemes of Bernie Madoff.
For context, Bernard Lawrence “Bernie” Madoff was an American financier who orchestrated the largest Ponzi scheme in history, defrauding thousands of investors out of an estimated $65 billion. He founded Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC in 1960 and served as its chairman until his arrest in 2008.
Carter:
“Now we come to USAID being probably the largest money-laundering operation in American history. Congratulations, Dems. You’ve outdone—even Bernie Madoff.
I’m disgusted beyond words: disgusted with the waste of money, disgusted with the fraud, with the way that you people put— the way that you people use color legitimacy and the way you use Black people as fing mules to get us to push whatever fing agenda you wanted to.
The amount of division you used Black people to sow upon the American people—you used us for that. I will never, ever forgive this political party.
The s*** that I’ve gone through personally—you all were supposed to be the party of free speech, the party of women’s rights. You have immolated all of those things.
Then, as if enough weren’t enough, you decide that you’re going to die on the hill of USAID—a government audit. You’re trying to prevent a government audit because some of you really are trying to stay out of prison. We see the game now.
You all have been out here telling us that you’re against certain people. Well, now we’ve found out who the people rigging the game were.
Congratulations. You all are never going to win another political race ever again—not if I can help it.”
@shahnm Smart fella right there!
@IndifferentDude @shahnm Smartest thing is to renounce both parties, run as an independent, and force people to sacrifice their time to do independent research.
@shahnm ROTFLMAO at his statment!
@mycya4me What part did you find funny?
@IndifferentDude @pakopako @shahnm I agree 100% I have been an Independent for Decades. You see Jesus/ Yeshua open my Eyes. I saw what the Two parties really were. So I can think for myself. Hey Jesus invented being Woke, So WWJD!
Tthe Court Determine Fake News of FOX (Fake On Xtreme) OAN, NewsMax, Infowars (war on the Truth) Why else would they have paid well over $2.5+ billion in Fines, Judgements & Settlements for all their Alt Facts, Lies & Misinformation that they have spread!
Yes I am sure that CNN/ MSNBC had Lied ( i am Very sure of it. But please tell me how much have they been Court ordered to pay for all their Alt Facts, Lies & Misinformation that they have spread!
please fact check me!
@shahnm 100% of it. Nothing but pure Poo! But that is what MAGA excels at!
@shahnm “If An Unelected George Soros Was Openly Calling the Shots, Just like Musk has been doing, Would Sean Hannity Be Upset & the entire MAGA cult?”
@mycya4me None of that was MAGA. It was a committed democrat, who opened his eyes and saw that he was being used, manipulated, lied to, and discarded by his “team”.
@mycya4me
We don’t actually know who was calling the shots during the entire Biden (p)residency. And yes, thinking people are and should be upset by that.
@shahnm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit
“The Gateway Pundit (TGP) is an American far-right[2] fake news website.[1] The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories.[35]”
'Nuff said…???
No??
How about:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/17/russian-disinformation-made-fodder-gateway-pundit-/
The Gateway Pundit, a right-wing website that touted President Trump during his 2016 campaign, ran an unsubstantiated report alleging voter fraud during the race fueled by Russian agitprop referenced in a federal indictment unsealed by special counsel Robert Mueller’s office Friday.
“GOP Alleges VOTER FRAUD in Broward County – Democrats Opened TENS OF THOUSANDS of Ballots,” Gateway Pundit founder Jim Hoft declared in an article he published Nov. 2, 2016, precisely a week prior to Mr. Trump’s election over Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.
The article cited a tweet published earlier in the day by @Ten_GOP, a Twitter account purportedly managed by members of the Tennessee Republican Party but actually operated by the Internet Research Agency, a Russian “troll farm” at the center of a sprawling indictment unsealed Friday as part of Mr. Mueller’s investigation into the 2016 race.
“BREAKING,” the bogus GOP account tweeted. “#VoterFraud by counting tens of thousands of ineligible mail in Hillary votes being reported in Broward County, Florida.”
That precise tweet was among a handful attributed to Internet Research Agency accounts and included in Friday’s indictment charging 13 Russian nationals and three companies, including the aforementioned troll farm and its employees, for allegedly defrauding the United States and interfering in the 2016 race using “information warfare.”
“The defendants allegedly posed as U.S. persons, created false U.S. personas and operated social media pages and groups designed to attract U.S. audiences,” the indictment said.
“Starting in or around the summer of 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators also began to promote allegations of voter fraud by the Democratic Party through their fictitious U.S. personas and groups on social media,” according to the indictment.
Indeed, Twitter announced in January that the social network detected and deleted more than 3,000 accounts likely operated by the Internet Research Agency, including the bogus GOP account, among others. Tweets published by those accounts have been purged from Twitter, however, complicating efforts to retroactively gauge the reactions they garnered.
Nonetheless, existing news reports suggest the Russian troll account may have made an impression beyond just The Gateway Pundit. On the afternoon of Nov. 2, for example, Florida GOP Chairman Blaise Ingoglia sent a letter to the state Supervisor of Elections, writing: “I have been advised that tens of thousands of vote-by-mail ballots in Broward County are being opened by your staff.”
“NEWS ALERT,” Fox News tweeted afterward. “GOP alleges voter fraud in Broward County, Florida.”
Neither Mr. Ingolia nor Mr. Hoft immediately returned emails seeking comment Saturday.
The Gateway Pundit’s role in propagating the baseless voter fraud claim was first reported by the liberal media watchdog Media Matters for America.
Launched in 2004, Gateway Pundit has previously been criticized for its often far-right and occasionally unsubstantiated reporting, including as recently as earlier this week when its credentialed White House correspondent, Lucian Wintrich, circulated a bogus Buzzfeed article titled “Why We Need To Take Away White People’s Guns Now, More Than Ever.”
Members of Mr. Trump’s campaign, including White House counselor Kellyanne Conway and former national security adviser Michael Flynn, echoed tweets posted by Ten_Gop before the account was deleted, previous reporting revealed.
Social media trolls working for the Internet Research Agency participated in a multifaceted influence operation authorized by President Vladimir Putin targeting the 2016 race, the U.S. intelligence community previously assessed.
“The defendants allegedly conducted what they called information warfare against the United States, with the stated goal of spreading distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general,” Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said in announcing the charges against them Friday.
Russia has denied meddling in Mr. Trump’s election.
Yeah- right!?!?!?
@shahnm
Even Fox News knew they were a BS source:
Fox News Radio correspondent confronts Gateway Pundit reporter in White House briefing room
A Fox News Radio correspondent confronted in the White House briefing room the White House reporter for a website that traffics in conspiracy theories, witnesses said on Friday.
As reporters were getting settled ahead of Friday’s briefing, the Fox correspondent Jon Decker pointed out that a reporter from Gateway Pundit, Lucian Wintrich, was in the room and that they “hate blacks, Jews, Hispanics,” according to BuzzFeed White House correspondent Adrian Carrasquillo, who tweeted about the incident.
Decker also sent an email to the entire White House reporter email listserv, noting that the White House “has admitted Gateway Pundit into today’s White House Press Briefing.”
While some in the White House briefing room say the White House should be open to any and all outlets, others have expressed concern with certain outlets being legitimized via their White House credentials.
Fox News confirmed Decker was reacting to previous tweets Wintrich had posted. According to a White House Correspondent in the room, several reporters shook Decker’s hands as he walked back to the Fox News radio booth.
"Props to Jon Decker for speaking up in the press room. It would be much harder for a minority reporter to speak up like he did,” the correspondent said. "As a member of the WHCA board and as a white man him standing up and saying that meant a lot to reporters in the room.”
Shortly after the interaction, Gateway Pundit published a post claiming that Decker grabbed Wintrich’s arm, assaulted him and shouted that he was a Nazi and that The Gateway Pundit “is a white supremacist publication.” Decker and Fox News deny that any sort of assault occurred. Another White House correspondent who witnessed the incident said no physical altercation occurred.
“Earlier today I had a conversation with a representative from the online publication Gateway Pundit," Decker said in a statement. "The conversation was straightforward and direct. I also informed the full White House pool that this representative was present in the Briefing Room. At no time did I accost or assault this individual. More than a dozen witnesses will attest to this fact.”
Gateway Pundit, a pro-Donald Trump conservative blog known for at times posting false rumors, gained notice earlier this year when they announced they would be appointing a White House correspondent with official White House press credentials. While there are several interesting characters and self-described reporters who appear daily in the briefing room, the Gateway Pundit’s inclusion has rankled some White House reporters who see them as an inappropriate addition to the briefing room.
"‘Telling the truth’ is not, by any objective measure, what the Gateway Pundit does. If you have a conspiracy theory or a hoax you want to spread, Hoft is your guy,” Callum Borchers wrote in the Washington Post in January.
Wintrich often posts memes and symbols related to the ‘alt-right’ and some white supremacist groups. He has made and tweeted certain controversial statements, such as a tweet stating that “Women’s suffrage was one of the country’s greatest disasters”, and directly targeted other writers, including at one point posting and then deleting a Mic.com writer’s personal information.
The site, Gateway Pundit, is known for posting questionable stories at times, such as some stories about Hillary Clinton’s health during the election and falsely accused a Washington Post editor of photographing written notes of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson during a confirmation hearing. The journalist, who was not at the briefing, was harassed online and via phone as a result. (Gateway Pundit eventually updated their post).
@PhysAssist Rather that getting caught up in the source of the info, feel free to just watch Mr. Carter’s own Twitter video. The article pretty much quotes it as is. No need to distract yourself from the important and true content by clutching your pearls about a scary news source.
It’s rich, by the way, to get very righteous about Gateway Pundit (for example), but to accept the USAID-funded hard-left propaganda rags as “news” (NYT, Washington Post, Politico, NPR…).
@shahnm
Who the F is he that I should care that he has succumbed to the right-wing fascist brainwashing your Faux and Fiends are spreading?
Also, haven’t you ever heard that you should always consider the source?
@shahnm
More lies from the White House Press Secretary, etc.:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/usaid-payments-to-politico/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2025/02/07/claims-about-politico-dei-musical-and-usaid-spending-distort-facts/78217656007/
https://apnews.com/article/usaid-funding-trump-musk-misinformation-c544a5fa1fe788da10ec714f462883d1
But of course, since your ability to see the truth has been overwhelmed by your proto-fascist belief system, you’ll say that they are also biased.
@PhysAssist
Just a dude with something interesting to say. Take it or leave it. This is an internet forum, not a concentration camp…
Yep. That’s why I never blindly accept anything from any source. The left often cites legacy erstwhile new sources such as the alphabet networks, CNN, NYT, etc as authoritative. Sooooo silly and destructive to do that, yet so many of you choose to be electively gaslighted and brainwashed. Maybe it’s involuntary. I don’t know, but you collectively repeat that your only understanding of the right is that we must get our info from Fox news and such, because the left only understands getting their info from indoctrination sources. Hate to break it to you, bud, but I don’t watch any talking head news at all…
@shahnm

Well-things the Orange pile of excrement hit a little closer to home-he fired my wife’s first cousin yesterday.
@Felton10
@Felton10 Guess you’ll just have to add the cousin to your business as a “Special Consultant”; you know, just like Elon!
@IndifferentDude Well his was an unpaid position he had held for 15 years, but don’t think he needs me to help him keep busy since he just bought the Baltimore Orioles for 1.7 billion and is their managing partner.
And BTW, he has given 100’s of millions of dollars away to many organizations including the two for which he is most well known-over 20 million for panda research and their structure at the National zoo in DC and 7.5 million to repair the Washington Monument when it was damaged by an earthquake when the park service was looking to for public contributions to match their 7.5 million.
When was the last time you heard about the Orange turd giving anyone anything or doing anything to help anyone but himself or his already rich friends?
@Felton10 Well, that gentleman with the lovely copper tan is currently cleaning house and enriching EVERY AMERICAN TAXPAYER by removing YEARS of wasted and fraudulently spent money engineered by the shenanigans of your now crybaby friends. Ain’t it just great??
If you don’t want to keep all the money he’ll save you, then I’ll wisper my Venmo to you and you can send it my way! Thanks in advance!! 
@Felton10 @IndifferentDude
@shahnm Doesn’t my statement apply to Trump also and shouldn’t as the President be held to a little higher standard than little old me.
@Felton10 It does. I wish he wouldn’t do that. But that doesn’t mean that we should follow suit. Love the sinner, hate the sin, so to speak…
Anyway, I just quoted your own words in response to another person’s name-calling. And just as you found, when someone does that it pretty much puts the rest of that person’s comment into the “…whatever…” category for those who do not necessarily share that viewpoint.
@Felton10 @shahnm OMG so you got your little Feeling hurt… Poor Baby, Just like MAGA has NOT does the same thing! How about the slogan/ t-shirt “Lets Go Brandon” Everyone know it was not supporting a guy name Brandon.
Answer this simple question:
So Please name 2-3 things that the Dems have done that the Repubs have not done.
Plus since Repubs claim to be So Moral & believer in Jesus, Start with Moral issues, before you go to other stuff.
@mycya4me My feelings aren’t hurt. I’m pointing out a double standard.
But speaking of feelings, you seem very defensive and argumentative. Are your feelings hurt? Why? Because someone said something you didn’t like?
As to your other rambling question:
Destroy the reputation, career, and character of a young intern to deflect the culpability of the powerful lecher who did, in fact, have sexual relations with that woman.
Actively lie about and cover up the obvious mental decline of a president, and then abruptly shift gears and effectively depose that president when it became politically more profitable to do so.
Engage in vicious and relentless lawfare to damage and hinder political opponents by weaponizing the judicial system at every level.
There are so, so many more. But I know I’m wasting my time. You’ve long since plugged your metaphorical ears…
@mycya4me @shahnm Yeah, I see that “mycya4me” (what an idiotic username IMHO) is using the same copy & paste questions to try and play “GOTCHA!!” and make him (or herself?) feel superior. They already are convinced they know what the “correct” answers are and have another list of foolish replies ready to copy & paste to any responses you make. Getting old really fast!!
@shahnm You will NOT know if I am Young/ Old/ M/F hehehe.
But as a Parrot of Fox & Friends.I know they shield you from the Truth just to feed you their Alt Fact. & you are their Sucker.
BTW. As far as my simple little Question,
You Failed Big Time. You could NOT even follow directions. As all the stuff you tried to mentioned. Well the Repubs have done it many times, If you remember it was to name SOMETHING (2-3) that Dems HAD done that Repubs Had NOT! of course you Failed!
Also I don’t need to Play “GOTCHA!!” as that is what FOX & Friends are doing to you.
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@shahnm My question again is why are you Just naming stuff that Repubs have already tried?? In fact Most were NOT Morel issue.
@mycya4me You are absolutely hilarious. Never, ever change. Please, just keep right on shrieking…
I am absolutely serious!
@mycya4me @shahnm What is this issue with Mushrooms you’re blabbering about??
I happen to LOVE my morels sliced and sauteed in butter!! 
/image sauteed morels

@IndifferentDude @mycya4me Careful - I believe @mycya4me clearly said that the issues were not morel issues. There you go confusing things, just as the dark and manipulative Fox and Friends disinformation cartel would have you do. Suckah!!
@mycya4me His (Her?) statement was:
Since he stated that YOU were just naming stuff other Repubs have and your replies were in fact NOT Morel issues that then implies he was, in fact, looking for Morel issues to be stated by you!
Clear enough now??
P.S. - Guess I wrongly assumed you were on the same side as me but it appears I misinterpreted your posts. My bad.
@IndifferentDude
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect!
And somehow you have used that superpower to deduce what the hell @mycya4me might have been saying… Maybe. It’s hard to tell with leftists…
This is obviously another sign that the almighty and omniscient Fox and Friends have been up to their ne’er-do-well evil shenanigans again…
@mycya4me @shahnm Um … Thanks???
@IndifferentDude @shahnm
Why else would FOX, OAN, NewMax, Infowars have paid well over $2.5+ billion in Fines, Judgements & Settlements for all their Alt Facts, Lies & Misinformation that they have spread!
The same can’t be said of the CNN/MSNBC media…
FYI I got rid of Cable tv! So I can’t watch any of those
@IndifferentDude @mycya4me

@shahnm
YOU’RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR
@IndifferentDude @shahnm Yes I wondered the same thing. Since all you are doing is Parroting FOX & Friends. They tell you what to think / Say & you parrot it!
So in other words: Spoken Like a True & Faithful Parrot of FOX (Fake On Xtreme) & Friends. I Guess MAGA loves the Alt Facts from the Lead Marxist news group, They are in the Pocket of Putin. why else is Tucker the Russian Lead US Spokesperson!
@IndifferentDude @mycya4me Huh. All this time I never knew Fox was an acronym.
I think that might be fake news, though.
You almost got me @mycya4me! But in the end, reality won out. You still haven’t said anything true, or even marginally coherent, since you started posting here.
Keep your posts coming, though. You are entertaining as hell!!
@mycya4me @shahnm This may come as a shock to you @mycya4me but you and I actually have ONE thing in common: I also do not have cable TV so I have NEVER SEEN the show “FOX & Friends”!! I can barely read their website either since most of it is presented like a tabloid magazine. I only browse the headlines to see what’s happening. I also peruse CNN to see what fallacies are being excreted by them so I have a balanced starting point to form MY OWN OPINIONS on! It’s called using COMMON SENSE! Ever hear of that phrase?? You should try it sometime. You’ll be much happier and maybe you’ll even qualify to be seen as a semi-normal person! Wouldn’t that be a nice change??
@IndifferentDude @mycya4me Fox and Friends is a powerful force. Preternatural, in fact. Although I also have never seen it, somehow, through dark and unknowable forces, Fox and Friends has quietly been brainwashing me for thousands of years.
Somehow, @mycya4me understood this insidious evil and deflected it before @mycya4me’s world view could be corrupted with “Alt Facts from the Lead Marxist news group”. It seems @mycya4me found salvation by being ferociously oblivious - hostile, in fact - to reality, truth, and @mycya4me’s surroundings in general…
@IndifferentDude @shahnm See I taught you something. I am Quite surprised at that Fact. So there is Hope for you yet. Maybe Maybe you will follow Jesus’s lead… You see he invented being woke… so WWJD!
Everything can be fact checked is 100% true! But to Parrots with their endless supply of Crackers & Kool-Aid.
@IndifferentDude @shahnm I was shielded from the their Alt Facts, Lies & Misinformation that they have spread as I have a BS detector. It activate whenever it detects BS.
Yes it even blocks the BS from CNN/MSNBC. that is another reason I got rid of cable TV. I rely on mostly International Media to strip the BS/ Spin from the US News.
I do feel sorry that you have been deceived!
Jer 2:25
Do not run until your feet are bare and your throat is dry. But you said, ‘It’s no use! I love foreign gods, and I must go after them.’
This is the Entire MAGA Movement, claiming they follow Jesus, BUT running after DJT. The Orange Clown god, Old Wack DonOLD
@IndifferentDude @shahnm Maybe you should try International News media. It might help.
Some of my Fav are Global (Canadian), Jerusalem Post (Jewish Right) Haaretz (Jewish Left) Or in MAGA terms 100% left as they will both talk against MAGA (But every other International media will do so, except that Russia, China or N. Korea which think that DJT is the Biggest laughing stock in the Entire world. They use his Ego to get everything they want, Putin has been grooming him for decades!
Proverbs 23:9
New King James Version
Do not speak in the hearing of a fool,
For he will despise the wisdom of your words.
Romans 1: 22
NIV
22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
Yep that is exactly what MAGA/ GOP truly are Fools!
@mycya4me I’ll bet you’re a blast at parties…
@mycya4me @shahnm
Um … do you realize you just did what you’re accusing me of??
You stated:
Seems like you’re relying on the Foreign God News Media. Hopefully, any funding those BOGUS “news” outlets were receiving from the US will soon disappear!!
Therefore, any case you think you may have had is null and void! Boy, you’re so much fun to converse with! Stay sober my friend!!
@shahnm Now that you mention it, Yes I am, I am vermeil received & Very Welcomed.
@IndifferentDude @shahnm “Stay sober my friend” I do! I choose NOT to waste my Money on what will just pass through me, I will NOT have to spend the nite with the porcelain god named “Ralph” I will remember what I did!
As for many of the International New media. Well they are self funded. I use them to Fact Check US sources. It seems that the Right wing more alines it’s self with Russia, China & N. Korea. why else is Tucker the Russian Lead US Spokesperson!
Since international media is independent of US Media. They are free to report the Truth (that MAGA hates hearing) Many times it is closer (Like 50-76%) to what the CNN/ MSNBC is reporting. BUT will NEVER be a Mirror the US media! CNN/ MSNBC does add their own Bias/ political spin, which is stripped out of the International media!
Maybe you should try it! You might learn something. But I doubt it as you love the their Alt Facts, Lies & Misinformation that FOX & Friends spread.
Hey if you are convicted by Bible verses … You don’t have a problem with me, But with GOD! Maybe you should do something about it! Yes it does steps on Toes… that is the reason I study it so I can be Right with it, Not with people!
@mycya4me
I’m increasingly convinced you’re an AI bot (the “I” being very much a term of art, in this case).
@mycya4me You state you study the Bible but I sincerely doubt that. How ANYONE who has full knowledge of what God has spoken in His Word can also be a {redacted}
P.S. - Here’s a few wonderful Bible verses for you to ponder my unwavering Leftist friend!!:
Ecclesiastes 10:2 ESV
A wise man’s heart inclines him to the RIGHT, but a fool’s heart to the LEFT.
Matthew 25:41 ESV
“Then He will say to those on His LEFT, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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@shahnm NOPE I can’t be one as I sure I am older than you! I was around before the Internet!
@IndifferentDude I am sorry to Burst your Bubble, But I am an Independent!, I can think for myself. I don’t have a Party/ News Media to tell me how to think.
@IndifferentDude I have been studying the Torah, The Tanaha & the Christian Bible, I also have read the entire thing, including many of the extra books! Just completed a Year long study of Torah!
Gal 6:7
Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that will he also reap.
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1 John 1:8-10
If we claim 2 be w/o sin, we deceive ourselves & the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful & just & will forgive us our sins & purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out 2 be a liar & his word is not in us.
(BTW DJT has stated in several interviews on Right wing media, when asked about his faith. He stated that he don’t ask for Forgiveness as he don’t think he needs to as he don’t think he has done anything that would require him to do so!) Please Fact check me!
@shahnm Have you ever hear of spell Check messing up?? it was to say I am Very well received at parties!
Saw a video of Musk’s’ kid pick his nose and rub the booger on the desk in the oval office. Thought it was alright to do as a bigger piece of snot was already sitting at that desk.
@Felton10 you know, I was really angry when I saw the news about this but you put it all into prospective! Thank you for making me laugh instead of being angry.
@Felton10
–@Felton10 2/4/2025
@Felton10 @ironcheftoni I guess since you brought up the concept of the president as a metaphor in this fashion, I’ll pose a question for y’all to ponder.
Do you think they threw out the chair every time Biden shit his diaper and it leaked, or do you suppose they just wiped it down best they could and waited to discard the chair until after they discarded their president?
@shahnm Since Trump was the one who started this name calling in the first place just like the third grade bully he is, figured in order to get my point across to his supporters {redacted}.
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@Felton10 Ohhh, that lil’ dude did more than that!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/g7XQgI4ZDL0
🫢
@Felton10 @PHRoG Wow.
@Felton10 @Kyeh @PHRoG It is among our greatest sources of mirth and merriment to watch the left collectively melt down about… well pretty much everything, really. But y’all have been producing such copious quantities of delicious tears of – what is that? Rage? Sadness?? Indignation??? – that it’s hard to keep up. Anyway, It. Is. Awesome!
I look forward to more. So much more!
EVERYTHING IS AWESOME!
@mediocrebot I know, right?!?
@Felton10 @Kyeh @PHRoG @shahnm
Keep the tears flowing!!
100% AGREE!!
/giphy crying

Trump officials fired nuclear staff not realizing they oversee the country’s weapons stockpile.
What do you expect when idiots hire idiots to run the country-neither of which know what they are doing. First of many fuck ups.
@Felton10
Well duh. That’s why Trump is firing so many of them.
@Felton10 @shahnm I only had 10 years as a contractor for the Department of Energy, so I don’t know all the answers. I had a high level security clearance and the amount of incompetence and waste I saw was egregious. The contractors did all the work. The big fed chess pieces would just be moved from spot to spot when audits showed their failures. Then I spent 12 years working in life sciences. Big pharma and the FDA aren’t any better.
@capnjb @Felton10 It is beyond frustrating and disheartening to see that phenomenon in any discipline in which the feds and/or an administrative cartel have control. Tale as old as… LBJ? Wilson? FDR? Played out over and over.
Hopefully there will be some meaningful positive (and sustained) changes for the better. I never thought I’d see the day…
@Felton10 @shahnm And I’m not saying there are no good feds. I worked with many who really wanted to do good work. Heck, my dad held a very senior position at HUD rebuilding inner-cities for 25 years and my sister has been with the State Department living around the world for 15 years mostly in Turkey and the middle east. Her rank is equivalent to an Army Colonel, and she has seen some stuff. I don’t really sit on either side of the fence, but government waste turns my stomach.
@shahnm Having lived in the DC area for the majority of my life and even worked for the US Gov’t for a short time-I saw for myself there is bloat and waste in the US Gov’t. But there is no way the incompetent idiots (and yes the unqualified numbnuts he put in charge who were guaranteed to suck up to him at a moment’s notice) he put in the cabinet and other high ranking positions had the brains or MORE IMPORTANTLY THE TIME to do a effective evaluation of who was unnecessary and need to be terminated.
Sort of like when the orange toilet floater said he was going to evaluate each 1/6 defendant individually and then only pardon certain ones and then he pardoned everyone including 500 criminals like himself-same type of deal.
So instead of parroting what I say and turning it around how about posting something coherent after thinking about it which you obviously didn’t do.
@Felton10
You strike me as an intelligent person, who is deeply passionate about the things you believe in. Despite this, you spend most of your time and comments stomping around, hurling insults and poo. That may make you feel better, but it undermines anything you might want to say in support of your positions. It makes you sound like an irritable toddler.
One cannot reason with an irritable toddler, which is why I mostly haven’t really bothered engaging in anything “coherent” with you lately. I can repeat a fairly comprehensive list of your heavily overused and meaningless insults, name-calling, and (at least historically) crass calls for dismissal and disenfranchisement of, and at times violence against, at least 50% of the voting population, simply because you don’t agree with or understand them. I imagine the moderators have had to reel you in over the years, because at least these days you outwardly call for less violence and destruction against us “others” than you used to…
There is a reason why it’s hard to take you seriously, when you don’t take yourself seriously enough to refrain from your basest rhetorical instincts long enough to say “something coherent” and just stick to the topic.
I’ll address your first paragraph though: if you think that Biden and the motley crew his handlers put into cabinet positions and other high-ranking gov’t positions were qualified, and if you believe the job they did has been competent and beneficial to the safety, security, economy, and autonomy of the United States and her citizens, then I don’t think you define the words “qualified” and “competent” the way the rest of us do.
If you feel that nibbling around the edges of this swamp of incompetence can repair and reverse the dismal course we had been on, then that naivete is as wrong and irrational as that of the metaphoric irritable toddler hurling invectives and poo.
Trump’s scorched earth approach, though it’s loud and messy, and will inevitably involve some rough patches, is a chance to burn the place down and rebuild in the shape of the republic it was founded to actually be. Over half of the voting citizenry feel that’s worth a shot. Trump told us all through his campaign what he was going to do. He’s doing it. That’s what we asked and voted for.
That you don’t understand that or agree with the people now in positions of authority does not reflect on their competence. That you lash out at them and this process as vehemently as you do does beg the question of why you would prefer an increasingly bloated, venal, and tyrannical government over one that is of the people, by the people, and for the people.
Go ahead. Call me a name now.
@shahnm Goddam erudite disputant!

@shahnm Don’t have to call you a name-anyone can see by your childish rant exactly what type of person you are. Your {redacted} are on full display given you complain about my name calling yet you give Trump a pass (I wish he wouldn’t do that) rather than hold him accountable for his actions. That is how is gets away with all the shit he does-no one holds him accountable. As the President his name calling matters, mine doesn’t.
I may not agree with everything Biden did but at last the people he appointed to his administration were qualified for the jobs to which they were appointed.
Look at the bunch of losers Trump appointed-they either got on their knees to service him or bent over to let him have his way with them to get where they are. The women in his cabinet were arguably cute assuming it was 2 in the morning and you had too much to drink. {redacted sexist grossness} No wonder Malaria got as far away from him as possible-She knows him for what is he is-a convicted felon and rapist as well as an adulterer. Cabinet positions are not ones where you learn on the job-look at that idiot Hegseth-laying out our bargaining position for Ukraine before negotiations even begun. Working on Faux News, being drunk all the time and committing violence against women usually is disqualifying but not to the uneducated and uninformed who thought it was a good choice.
You think Trump doing what he said in his first couple weeks is a good thing. That only makes me fear for the rest of his of his term. Things are going south quickly and going to get worse.
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@Felton10 Looks like I hit a nerve. Quite a few, actually.
That isn’t surprising. You are the poster child for projection, as the psych folks call it.
If I were a new, objective observer of the political dialogue in this forum, I’d see Felton10 as an older, irritable guy who completely shuts out opposing viewpoints, and hurls puerile insults at those with whom he disagrees. Based upon your last rant, you also come off as rather sexist.
You say you insult and denigrate Trump and his supporters because you feel that’s the only way to communicate with the knuckle draggers of the political right (and apparently the center, these days).
You’ll have trouble with this, but in reality Felton10, you are just being you. You have a laundry list of things you hate about Trump, but how is any of that different from how you conduct yourself? You hate the things about Trump that you know deep down is who you are.
But the real kicker is that Trump isn’t quite the caricature of deplorables that you and the committed MSNBC left have made him out to be. To wit, he does not insult or hurl hatred at the democrats in general who did not vote for him - just those who attack or attempt to entrap him. He chose to hire people qualified to run the government as a business, not as an entitled aristocracy. He is a leader, whose powerful personality is a meaningful tool in his leadership toolbelt.
So there’s the rub, eh? Both you and Trump use insults and spew your opinions without any filters. But Trump isn’t a hater. He has never verbalized hatred of those who respectfully disagree with him. He has never called for harm or violence against the opposite political spectrum.
It burns you up, doesn’t it Felton10, that Trump is a better man than you are? It enrages you beyond measure, and so you spew your bilious venom, because deep down you know it.
@shahnm You said Trump is not a hater and has never verbalized hatred of those who disagree with him. No use argued with someone whose mind is either closed or is totally detached from reality.
The only thing that might change your mind is when his actions effects you and others like you directly and I’ll be sitting in a front row seat, eating my popcorn and enjoying every moment of it knowing that your support of him is directly causing your misery and knowing you deserve everything you are experiencing.
@Felton10 Well again, I am quite looking forward to his actions affecting me, others, and the nation as a whole. Change for the better that will be better for all of us.
I’ll be happy for the good that accrues to you, as well.
We are not the same, Felton10. I sleep very well knowing that.
@shahnm
You’re ever so wrong about what you said:
“a chance to burn the place down and rebuild in the shape of the republic it was founded to actually be”
Because it was never meant to be a plutocratic oligarchy, which is what the plundering pirates Musk and Trump are clearly trying to bring into effect.
@PhysAssist It was most certainly never designed to be an ever expanding aristocratic monstrosity populated by unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats and driven exclusively by grift, corruption, and venality at the expense of the people it plunders.
@IndifferentDude
Eruption In “BleachBit,” “Wipe Hard Drive,” “Offshore Bank” Searches In DC Suggest Deep State Panic Mode
“Washington Recession Begins”: DC Active Home Listings Soar, Jobless Claims Spike As DOGE Drains Swamp
@IndifferentDude
DOGE=
Degenerate Oligarchs Grab Everything
@IndifferentDude @PhysAssist
@PhysAssist, It’s pretty clear that you don’t know what the words “degenerate” and “oligarchs” mean, but you definitely understand the concept “grab everything”, as that has been the MO of the left for generations. Grab power. Grab money. Grab influence. Grab that which made America America, and leave behind a neutered, impoverished, and infighting banana republic in return.
Nature knows.
https://x.com/i/status/1891275844003180854
For the 1st time in 4 years we FINALLY have a reason to celebrate President’s Day!!

Damn, this thread is getting boring… but here I am hoping for the best.
OH NO!!
That idiot Musk is gonna stop Social Security Payments to my deceased Great Great Grandmother!!
What a JERK!! 
@IndifferentDude Musk made this claim about a week ago and it was addressed then.
Having the “death” field set to “FALSE” does not mean that these people with crazy ages were getting payments.
It would be nice if Mr. Musk had enough concern for details to ask questions when he sees something funny instead of jumping to conclusions.
@IndifferentDude @Limewater
When it comes to gub’mint and its habitual congresscritters et al, it’s best to just assume the worst. Much more efficient that way, and far more often than not you’ll be right.
@IndifferentDude @Limewater @shahnm
Uhmmmm.
The “death field” accounting at the SSA has been publicly-known for over a decade as published by previous IGs (those folks that just got fired), this isn’t new or shocking information.
If set to false, it simply means the SSA hasn’t received any death information for that number…that’s it. It’s in no way an indicator that benefits are being received.
Also, the database counts are not equal to the population…it contains every number ever made…it’s not in disarray.
Either Musk has no clue how databases work (likely) or he’s purposely misleading people here (also just as likely).
@IndifferentDude @shahnm I’m not in love with the government, and especially not politicians. As far as Social Security, I believe that the best outcome we could possibly hope for is to come up with the least turbulent way to end the program.
But I also like principles, integrity, and facts.
As much as I would like to see the federal government shrink, and I do sincerely believe that it has plenty of room to shrink, I do not appreciate the cavalier methodology being employed. There is no serious examination or attention to detail.
I can trim my household budget by cutting out oil changes, but I know enough to know what a terrible idea that is. I don’t really trust these guys to bother to know what they’re cutting until serious damage is done.
@IndifferentDude @Limewater That’s fair. I respect and agree with your thoughts about attention to detail and how we personally examine the pros and cons of our personal finances (and life decisions in general).
I used to believe that such an examined approach would be ideal on the much larger scale of our government and its programs and sprawl into every element of life. I since have come to believe that fire and brimstone is the only way that will make a dent. There are far too many with far too vested a personal interest in the status quo for anything less to make even a scratch.
That Trump happened to tap into that (apparently growing) sentiment is the product of our having reached critical mass as a functional country and republic. Perhaps you’re right, and Trump’s way will end in catastrophe. We’re heading toward (perhaps already at) catastrophe now. It just looks a little different and is comforting in the sense that we’re used to what this version of catastrophe looks like.
I’m open to the chance that the changes to come will be a net and much needed positive for the nation - that we’ll leave our kids something that still offers them a shot at the proverbial American dream.
@IndifferentDude @Limewater @shahnm You are correct they are firing willy nilly without doing any any do diligence as to the importance as to whom they are firing. Firing the nuclear weapons staff and then having to reinstate them show they have no idea whom they are firing. Wonder how many other critical positions to our safety and well being they are eliminating in order to convince and satisfy the {redacted} that President Musk is the real person in charge.
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@Felton10 @IndifferentDude @Limewater
@Felton10, If you keep delving headfirst into leftwing meme talking points, you’re going to remain mired in irrelevance when trying to make a point. It’s no skin off my back, but you use a lot of words to not actually say anything…
Go ahead and stick with your sick burn “President Musk” thing though. I’m sure your “Insta” is burning up with that tired, failed, and long since overcooked gimmick. That is, until the next {redacted} leftist meme tickles your favorite Orange Man Bad erogenous zone and you head right on over to Meh to spew it out a million times… Whee.
Like I said, no skin off my back. You do you.
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@IndifferentDude @Limewater @shahnm Did I get under someone’s skin by telling the truth which he couldn’t refute except with his usual incoherent babbling?
@Felton10 @IndifferentDude @Limewater
Nah. You couldn’t get under my skin if you tried… I learned long ago never to let another individual’s insanity be the source of personal stress. I’m just being helpful, as always. You’re welcome, by the way.
@IndifferentDude @Limewater @shahnm You think your comments bother me-no only your ignorance. Don’t know how someone can be so {stupendous}.
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@Felton10 @IndifferentDude @Limewater
@Felton10, I guess add that to the long list of things you don’t know…
I will never score another irk since I quit Twitter
@jmhsrv Um … ** NEWSFLASH **
You no longer need to “score” an IRK since you, and everyone else, can BUY ONE at whatever price (along with “Price-lowering” gimmicks) are stated when they’re offered!! Oh Happy Day!!
@shahnm

@PhysAssist It’s hard to keep track of whether it’s Trump or Musk who has the biggest rent-free mansion in your head, but it’s definitely fun watching you and the left in general just kinda implode these days. Your memes suck, though. Really. These are terrible.
@shahnm

Where law ends- Tyranny begins:

@PhysAssist Yep. The left can’t meme.
Really. Y’all suck at this.
@PhysAssist Nope. Still can’t meme.
@shahnm He wins none of yours make any sense just like your posts which never address any of points I’ve raised. How about one to redeem yourself. At least admit Musk and his band of jerks have no idea whom they are firing (to wit the Nuclear staff) and even if there are people who need to be let go in the Gov’t to make it more efficient, the way they are doing it is not the right way. Or are you going to deny deny and deny just like Trump and never admit anything you were wrong about anything.
@Felton10
You don’t strike me as an impartial judge. Let’s let @IndifferentDude decide, as he’ll be completely nonbiased and fair.
I’ve addressed your – what did you call them? Oh yes. Points (HA HA HA HA HA).
Thing is, @Felton10, you are so stuck in point and {redacted} that you can’t see or recognize it. I can explain things to you, but I can’t understand them for you. You’re a lost cause, but you amuse me, so there’s that…
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Ha ha haaaa…
Heh…
heh heh heh…
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Yeah. Wow.
@Felton10 @shahnm @PhysAssist
And my unbiased and fair decision is …
@shahnm IS THE UNDISPUTED MEME CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!

@Felton10 @IndifferentDude @PhysAssist
Sorry @Felton10. Maybe next time.
Probably not though.
Yeah. No. Not going to work out for you evah.
@IndifferentDude @PhysAssist @shahnm Type of juvenile responses I would expect from {redacted} and/or a degree from Trump U.
@Felton10 @IndifferentDude @PhysAssist
Come on, Felton10 - put some effort into this. You’re just redundant and boring now…
@Felton10 @IndifferentDude @PhysAssist
That’s a little better, I guess. We’ve apparently hit your personal limits at this point, it seems. Pity.
@Felton10 @IndifferentDude @shahnm

'nuff said
@Felton10 @IndifferentDude @PhysAssist
@PhysAssist, you’re silly.
@PhysAssist, I’d suggest we stop with the image dump warfare, but I’ll play as long as you decide to keep dumping these meaningless leftwing meme and comedy attempts. You really should just give it up. The left has no sense of humor, and the left most certainly cannot meme…
Good grief. Image dumps.
@zhicks1987
I’m sorry, I do get carried away sometimes…
/giphy “oh my!”

Trump round one: Inflation gets into double-digits.
Biden: Inflation slowly goes down, economy recovering.
Trump round two: Inflation starts taking off again after threats of tarrifs, etc.
Trump: “It’s Biden’s fault inflation is going up again now I’m in charge”.
Russia invades Ukraine.
Ukraine defends itself.
Trump: “Zelenskyy should never have started the war in the first place”.
The crazy thing is, how many people just believe everything he says.
@OnionSoup
“Think of it, a modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn’t be won, that never had to start, but a War that he, without the U.S. and “TRUMP,” will never be able to settle. The United States has spent $200 Billion Dollars more than Europe, and Europe’s money is guaranteed, while the United States will get nothing back. Why didn’t Sleepy Joe Biden demand Equalization, in that this War is far more important to Europe than it is to us — We have a big, beautiful Ocean as separation. On top of this, Zelenskyy admits that half of the money we sent him is “MISSING.” He refuses to have Elections, is very low in Ukrainian Polls, and the only thing he was good at was playing Biden “like a fiddle.” A Dictator without Elections, Zelenskyy better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left. In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the War with Russia, something all admit only “TRUMP,” and the Trump Administration, can do. Biden never tried, Europe has failed to bring Peace, and Zelenskyy probably wants to keep the “gravy train” going. I love Ukraine, but Zelenskyy has done a terrible job, his Country is shattered, and MILLIONS have unnecessarily died – And so it continues……”
-DJT
@shahnm Exactly… Trump is off his rocker! (To date the US has only paid $70bn, and $63bn of that was to it’s own military suppliers to replace the outdated stuff we sent Ukraine with modern replacements)
@OnionSoup
And you would prefer: "Let’s keep giving the Big Z money by the billions! No hundreds of billions!! That’s the best!! Let’s always give Z so much money, that he and all of the many, many corrupt leftist cronies (BIRM) in DC, Europe, and the Whole World get fat and happy forever!!! Yay!!! Democrats Rule!!!
This is preferable to you why, exactly? Don’t check CNN, AP, MSNBC, NYT for the answer… Those aren’t news sources. They’re leftist propaganda rags. Bought and paid for through the USAID grift machine, and sustained by plain, old fashioned leftist {dragons}.
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@shahnm
and that explains why you support Trump! “Only trust the weirdos on twitter, only they tell the truth, not the news agencies”.
As the misquoted bit of wisdom goes “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”. This century is repeating a lot of the acts of the last.
Putin has already made four land grabs as President. If we give Putin Ukraine, he’ll be back. Quite likely Moldova where he’s already made one land grab. (he returned to Ukraine after Crimea). So what do you care about Moldova? Well Moldova only exists as a separate country from Romania because Russia opposed reunification. Romania and Moldova see themselves as one people and generally see themselves as one nation temporarily divided. Russia wants to own Moldova again. If Russia attacks Moldova, Romania will defend.
Romania is member of NATO… even if you support Trump or his master Putin, you might be able to see why this is problematic.
Russia also wants to take back control of the Baltic (more NATO allies). $70 billion is a small price to pay to prevent World War Three.
Caesar didn’t stop expansion after 3 wars. Alexander didn’t. Napolean didn’t stop after taking three countries. Hitler didn’t.
It’s foolish to think Putin isn’t going to keep on expanding if he is allowed to keep annexing territory. I feel bad for Ukraine being stuck in a proxy war… but I certainly don’t want millions of Americans to be killed over $70bn dollars.
@OnionSoup Thanks for the actual thoughtful reply. I understand this position, but it isn’t the only one (and most certainly not the best one).
Putin doesn’t have the money or men to sustain that much military action. If civilized Western society decided to stop buying his oil (for example), his ability to fund lunch would be in question, much less hegemonic domination of Europe.
But we definitely had to stop domestic American production and export, because… Because… Environment mumble mumble. But mostly because then the unlimited money laundering scheme from DC to Ukraine to <insert corrupt leftist and/or leftist cause here> would dry up. We need this war to fund leftist corruption, dammit!
The left has never been about solutions. It has been about power, wealth, and control. Please stop being their useful idiot.
I got an idea-lets have some fun.
How about about each day I post some of the more outlandish things President Musk and his toilet floater lackey Trump did and let see the MAGA crowd defend their actions. They, of course, have no knowledge of these as Faux Snews doesn’t report them.
USDA tries to reverse mistaken firing of bird flu response workers by Musk.
Trump claims Ukraine started the war with Russia.
That should be enough for a starter. And if I suspect, all they come back with is their usual grade school name calling and insults which they learned from Trump, we know they either can’t or won’t defend any of their actions.
@Felton10
Ooohh. That does sound like fun!
Let’s add to the game: every time Trump trolls the left, and every one of you starts bleating and screeching in clueless indignation, we laugh out loud and shake our heads at you.
(Granted, we’ve been laughing quite a lot already, and all this head shaking is making some folks a bit dizzy, but I’m sure we’ll step up and keep it up - for the sake of the game…)
This is going to be fun, indeed!
@shahnm Well you didn’t already. Just your usual BS response. How about either answering my question or just {redacted} not responding to me at all.
@Felton10
Do you believe you asked a question? The only part of your post that was a question was:
As a side note, later on I’ll teach you how to use basic punctuation. Your homework can be to figure out which punctuation mark you could have used at the end of that particular statement. Good luck - I’ll help you if you get stuck.
There were no other questions in your post, though. Certainly nothing that merits an “answer”.
Here’s a thought, though: I (and many millions of us), want Trump, Musk, DOGE, Santa Claus, Whoever! - to cut the fuck out of the federal leviathan. Cut and destroy as much of the rotted disgusting overgrowth that should never have infested American government and politics in the first place. Cut mercilessly and brutally when necessary. Cut the living fuck out of this overgrown government until it starts looking and acting like a constitutional republic.
In the process, I give zero fucks if some things temporarily get broken. I give zero fucks if some things get accidentally cut that might better be put back. Easy to fix those problems. Very, very hard to cut anything in the first place. For the first time in my life, someone is actually doing it.
Get the fuck out of his way.
You’ll have to excuse @Felton10 @shahnm; {agist, ablist nonsense} Maybe he can have his Billionaire cousin {too close to doxxing} (on his wife’s side) secure the services of “Dr.” Fauci to treat him.
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@IndifferentDude @shahnm Unlike you who is probably {classist nonsense} befitting you having graduated from Trump U, I am making more at my part time gig at 78 then you have in your entire worthless miserable life.
And just like you hinted at revealing my identity, you hinted at my age and had to name my wife’s cousin as it makes you feel important but take my word for it-we all know what type of person you are-just like the orange toilet floater whom you worship.
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@shahnm Still no answer because you can’t other than the idiot answer, well if they cut too many people too fast then they can fix it. The type of answer I would expect from some like you. And sorry if my punctuation doesn’t meet your high standards.
Your posts do meet my standards for anyone {redacted}
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@Felton10 @shahnm Um, YOU’RE the one who offered up (actually bragged) about your rich cousin naming all of the philanthropic deeds he did after I suggested you offer him a job after he was “fired” by President Trump. It only took a 5-second Google search to find out his name with the many clues you provided. Try using what little portion you have left of your quickly fading, barely functioning brain next time!
Also, since you’re on your way out soon, why not try spending your last fleeting moments being HAPPY instead of a grumpy, tired, grouchy, irritable old man??
@Felton10 You really are just a sad, angry, broken old man. I don’t think I can keep beating up on you. I’ll take an honorable fight any time, but this isn’t right…
You go ahead and shake your fists and stomp your feet. Yell at mailboxes and argue with lamp posts all you want.
I’m not going to engage with you anymore. It’s fucking sad.
Go ahead and claim victory/superiority/whatever. I truly hope someone cares enough about you to pull you off the computer at some point.
I’ll unlock this after I go through and redact some of the name-calling and general ridiculousness.

Stop making me edit your replies. We’re all grown-ups.
@Thumperchick Why don’t you take a vote to see if everyone agrees to remove this thread for good and not post anything political to any other thread.
I know this might give you less to do in editing our posts and certainly some of my adversaries might have very little substantive to say then, but even my impending death and senility (according to Ignorant Dude) some at least appreciate my willingness share my knowledge acquired via being a CPA for over 50 years to answer tax questions especially now that approx 7,000 IRS jobs have been eliminated right in the middle of tax season.
So I vote to eliminate this thread.
@Felton10 @Thumperchick
Aw shucks!! Everyone knows the meh forums are like Ivory Soap: 99.9% Pure (-ly Left Leaning) members! Guess I may as well throw in the towel now since the ballot box has already been stuffed full of pre-filled affirmative votes with plenty more absentee ballots set aside in case they’re needed.
Go ahead and end the only viable platform that allows (mostly) unfiltered participation. I’ll just sit back and enjoy the wonderful and much needed changes happening in America thanks to the amazing, stupendous, marvelous President Trump and his finely tuned and well orchestrated wrecking crew!! It’s been a blast!!
What type of {ablist bullshit} gets rid of 7,000 IRS employees in the middle of tax season? Someone whose orange hair dye and fake tan coloring has soaked into their brain and totally destroyed it. He couldn’t wait less than two months to do it since it had to be done now to give him a win.
The crown jewel of his shit show-mass deportations-is going so badly he already fired two people involved in it and is now only reporting numbers monthly as the weekly numbers are so anemic. Can’t wait for this dumpster fire to ready get going with no benefits and pain and suffering for all Americans so that both the Orange turd and his want-to-be President can be flushed down the toilet together.
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@shahnm Bull Shit. In recent years the IRS has audited less than 1% of all individual tax returns and concentrated tax compliance on high income tax earners and large corporations.
Cutting staff only helps Trump and Musk’s rich friends-the ones most likely to cheat on their returns and avoid paying their fair share.
Musk has already shown he has no idea who is letting go in every agency he has attacked. He is just trying to please Trump and make like he is doing something useful. He isn’t-wait until the shit hits the fan and it will sooner than later and it will land where it belongs-all over Trump.
https://instapundit.substack.com/p/abolishing-the-income-tax
I understand that some CPAs might disapprove of this sort of thing, for some reason or another…
@shahnm You obviously have both limited knowledge of and/or experience in how most CPAs earn a living. Most of their and and my income comes from doing corporate returns and other entity (partnership/LLC, non-profit, Sub-S returns) and tax planning. And most of the individual returns I do are for the owners of the company for which I do their business returns. I can make 20 or 30 times more doing one business tax return and related state returns as opposed to doing one individual return.
@Felton10 @shahnm Does any of your “expertise” involve helping these wealthy corporations and their owners in securing off-shore bank accounts and create bogus businesses or “charities” to hide their actual assets to avoid paying taxes??
@Felton10 @IndifferentDude @shahnm you mean like Musk, Trump and the other ultra-wealthy people are currently doing? lol
@IndifferentDude @shahnm As a sole practioner, those type of clients are out of my league. Best client for a number of years was a school over in Rome and had to fly over there for Board meetings periodically.
Forgot to mention that a good part of my practice or most practices are preparing financial statements for clients-compilation, reviews and audits. Audits are really good paying but entail a high degree of risk so professional liability insurance is a must. Also had to go through peer review every couple of years in order to renew my CPA license and do financial statements (primarily audits) where I had to hire a CPA to come in and examine random files to determine that I performed the proper procedures to be able to issue those reports and my files documented the procedures I performed.
@Felton10 @PHRoG @shahnm EXACTLY!!
@Felton10 @shahnm You appear to have extreme knowledge of your profession which would be expected after 50+ years! I commend you sir!
(Hope I didn’t make you faint!) 
@Felton10 @IndifferentDude Well this conversation turned into a breath of fresh air…!
@IndifferentDude @shahnm Lucky I was sitting down when I read it.
The following day, the Donkey Party goes to court:
@IndifferentDude No just being a little more selective in who is being fired-not people needed for our national security, health and air traffic safety-all of whom had to be rehired after being let go.
I’ve never wanted a “block a meh user from my sight forever” option before today. God damn but some people lack empathy and humanity.
This isn’t a comment on anything immediately above. I bailed on reading after the first few pages.
@zippyus
They’re called democrats.
@shahnm @zippyus

Actually, the Donkeysaurs should be snorting:
HEE!! NAW!! … HEE!! NAW!!
@shahnm @zippyus Correction: I should have said the Donkeysaurs were braying, not snorting!
What’s the matter Shifty Schiff? You look kinda nervous!!
@IndifferentDude

@IndifferentDude

You go away for a few days and come back to see that nothing has changed. Same old, same old.
Trump’s 2024 Comeback Anthem - Wrecking Ball Parody
Wonder what the big bruise on Trump’s hand was. Probably old age or dementia. Or maybe too much self abuse now that Malaria is no where to be seen.
BTW-where is she? Doesn’t it say something about the admitted genital grabber that his wife doesn’t live with him and wants nothing to do with him. She knows him better than anyone-right?
@Felton10 Who needs Malaria when you have Elonia Muscovite?
@mehvid1 And BJ Bondi as they called her in Florida with Kristi Noem and Tulsi Gabbard waiting in the wings.
@shahnm It figures; the donkey is too stupid to let go of it!!
@shahnm Yep, the Laughing stock of the entire world rating is taking a nose dive, Just like the stock market!
President Donald Trump’s name appears in Jeffrey Epstein’s flight logs a total of seven times released by his own attorney general on Thursday, Feb. 27.
Does this surprise anyone?
@Felton10 Fact Check:
Trump flew on the plane with his wife and/or family, mostly to/from Teterboro, NJ.
Per USA Today: "[Bill] Clinton was on Epstein planes for at least 17 flights in 2002-03 after he left office in 2001.
The former president went to some exotic places aboard those flights — Siberia, Morocco, China and Armenia, to name a few…"
But of course, none of this is new information. Trump Derangement Syndrome is not a good look. It is… sad.
@shahnm Oh you know all this for a fact-were you on the plane with them?
Trump has fucked up everything he has touched since he got elected. It is only a matter of time until it affects the people who voted for him and then they will turn on him. Good luck defending that piece of shit then.
@Felton10 Stick to accounting. You seem to be knowledgeable and well versed in the nuances of your field from decades of experience.
Politics and general awareness of the world around you, not so much, alas…
Like I said before - I’m not going to get into pissing matches with you anymore. I might sometimes add fact checking, context, or corrections to things you post, but that’s about it.
To your question: lots of TDS club members have dug through those flight logs since they became available years ago looking to “get” Trump. They have never found a way to twist his presence on those few flights to any sexual misconduct. Try as you might, you will not succeed where the professional TDS valedictorians have repeatedly failed.
@shahnm Ok- lets stick to facts and lets hear you side of these.
His round up of illegal aliens is going so poorly he is rounding up not just ones who are criminals but even those who are hard working people who pay taxes whom he promised would be last to go Numbers are so bad he is now reporting them monthly rather than weekly.
He has filled administration jobs with the most incompetent unqualified people who he could. Not one of people in his cabinet is remotely qualified for the position they are in. Their only qualification is that they are totally loyal to him and/or they are rich. The women in his cabinet are another matter-he needs some in the wings to replace Melanoma who can’t stand him.
Unelected and unvetted Musk has been firing people willy nilly without regard to their jobs and importance for our security and safety-having to rehire when he found out he made a mistake. No doubt there is bloat in the federal government but he doesn’t have the brain or intelligence to handle it correctly.
He pardoned about 500 1/6 dangerous people who had committed crimes against the police or done real damage to the Capitol when he said he was going to go review each conviction on a case by case basis. Either to lazy, to stupid but probably just another lie which his supporters always overlook. Just wanted a quick win.
Voted with Russia North Korea against condemning Russian for the invasion of Ukraine.
Regardless of your feelings on our support he should not be supporting and giving aid and comfort to the enemy. And no doubt his lacky Vance set up Zelensky when it became apparent to Trump the mineral deal was going to go south. He wanted to sign a deal on TV for show.
@Felton10
Every one of these is the Rachel Maddow leftist “take”/spin on reality. (Which means they have no connection to reality at all) I’ll keep my responses as brief as I possibly can, because you aren’t interested in counterpoints. You live in a world in which you believe your statements to be facts and reality, and you actively reject any information or thoughts that might intrude on that carefully constructed imaginary world.
The infrastructure to actually “round up… illegal aliens” will take a while to build. Will you cheer the success when the numbers start to rise, or are you just being mean and snarky here? He’s the first president in our lifetimes who has even bothered to try to address this mess. That’s enough of a start for the first month or so of his presidency to count for a great many of us. And BTW: all illegal aliens are criminals. I don’t care that some work hard and pay taxes. They broke the law, reside here illegally, and should be removed. They are welcome to try to return (and be welcomed) legally.
Your take on this is so off the wall ludicrous that it almost isn’t worth responding to. I don’t believe you complained when the entirely unqualified Pete Buttigieg, the sniveling snake Merrick Garland, the Soros protege Alejandro Mayorkas, and Biden’s entire band of misfits, morons, and mooches slithered into their cabinet positions. Every one of Trump’s appointees is actually knowledgeable, accomplished, and qualified to hold their positions. Repeating otherwise over and over because you don’t want to believe that is not going to change that fact.
As for your comment about the women in his cabinet: I suppose this is a generational thing, or perhaps just a decency thing, but I’m not going to address your sexist comments. They’re disgusting.
The “Musk is stoopid” leftist talking point is one of the silliest and most risible, and that is saying something. More power to him. I mean that. Replace his chainsaw with a nuclear warhead and let him go after anyone and everyone employed in a government or contracted position. Hire back the tiniest necessary government workforce possible. And then fire half of them.
1/6 was an op. A blatant setup, during which a great many honorable protestors were conned into thinking they could equitably protest the wrongs of the US government, as the left has repeatedly done (and been called heroes). You will vigorously hold tight to the Jan6 leftist talking points, but it would do you good to every now and then remind yourself that even though the left made this the basis of their political platform, even though they spent 24/7 for years trying to spin this into the fever dream you believe it to be, most Americans were able to see the ruse for what it was. Perhaps we would have taken you a bit more seriously if you had uttered a word when the left’s Antifa mobs actually did burn cities, destroy businesses, kill cops, and wreak terror.
To the point of your question: given the above, no one who voted for Trump really cares that he blanket pardoned all 500 patriots. If he wasted a bunch of time and energy to “review each conviction on a case by case basis”, it would have been to appease people like you. And if you’re being honest (
), it wouldn’t have mattered. You still would have called him some tired variation of fecal material and not changed any opinions at all. Why bother? He made the right call, and he did it for the right reasons.
@shahnm Your are as brainwashed as you claim me to be. I will admit that Biden’s age and abilities were not as sharp as they once were. He may have brought us to the cliff, but Trump is the one who will push us all off of it. If you think Robert Kennedy Jr. (worm in the brain) and Pete Hegseth (drunken rapist) are any way qualified to take care of themselves much a less head an entire government agency, then there is no hope for you.
The proof of the pudding will be in 4 years but given Trump’s total craziness, thirst for power and self promotion, I doubt it will take that long for not only the misguided who voted for him but the gutless Republicans who cower before this maniac to realize how truly insane he really is and to join us to get rid of him before he does irreparable damage to this country.
@Felton10
Pete Hegseth is a former Army National Guard officer with combat experience in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he has received multiple military awards, including two Bronze Stars. He also holds a bachelor’s degree in politics from Princeton University and has been a political commentator and author, which has contributed to his nomination as Secretary of Defense.
No doubt RFK Jr is polarizing. However, he certainly cares about, has a personal interest in, and is in his way deeply passionate about health issues. This is in stark contrast to Biden’s henchman Xavier Becerra and his consigliere Rachel Levine… I mean, this argument basically writes itself.
You should unplug yourself from MSNBC and your government funded leftist propaganda “news” sources for a while Felton10. Join us in a little hope and optimism. There’s a lot of reason for it these days. Serving the left’s agenda by staying in the dark may seem like the easy thing to do, but you’re only hurting yourself at this point. Most of the rest of the country has moved on. After 4 years of Trump, 8 years of Vance, and who knows, maybe DeSantis after that… it’s finally looking like morning in America again!
@Felton10
@shahnm No one disagrees with making food healthier except the Republicans when Michelle Obama suggested it when her husband was President.
The boy who died in Texas of measles will never have to worry about healthy food as his parents might have listen to Kennedy as a vaccine skeptic-he even refused to comment on whether the boy’s lack of a shot might have contributed to his death. An antivaxxer is just what this country needs with the reemergence of measles and the bird flu on our doorsteps.
Your previous comment seems to elude to the fact that I should stick to commenting on things I know about like accounting yet you have never shared with us what in your life give you the expertise to make the comments you do other than the obvious fact that must watch Fox 24 hours a day as you parrot all their talking points.
And it doesn’t take a legal expert (BTW-I also have a law degree so it gives me some leeway to comment) to know that releasing over 500 criminals who were convicted of assaulting police officers and damaging public government property back into the community was not the right thing to do. Regardless of how you see the motivation of the people who came to the Capitol that day, the 500 were dangerous people who had no regard for the authority and the rule of law. That it would take too much time (regardless of the fact that this is what he promised to do initially) to review each file is a BS justification for not doing so in addition to the comment that the left would have complained about anything he did or didn’t do. Typical of Trump to take the easy way out like firing government employees without regard to the national security and health implications of whom he fired. There is a right and a wrong way to do everything and Trump consistently chooses the wrong way.
@Felton10
I don’t have time for a more detailed fact check today. I would suggest that you spend less time watching Fox News though. I have no idea what they show, as I never watch it, but you seem to have a thorough understanding of their programming. Anyway, here’s the facts:
@Felton10 Trump’s connections to Epstein have been discussed for years, so this isn’t exactly shocking. The full context of the logs will likely spark more debate.
Well now! Nothing to see here folks; just keep on moving.
@IndifferentDude
Of course, you crop the publication,
…gotta love tabloids.
https://nypost.com/2025/03/01/opinion/dems-lead-zelensky-ukraine-off-a-cliff-with-pressure-to-reject-mineral-deal/
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered U.S. Cyber Command to halt offensive cyber operations and information operations against Russia. Looks like he is drinking heavily again.
Anyone remember when Trump tweeted that if the Stockmarket fell 1000pts over 2 days the President should be impeached?
It’s good job inflation is under control… no wait, it’s spiking again already.
Well at least GDP is growing- what it shrank in latest numbers?
Well people are employed more… what unemployment is going up?
How the frick has he managed to tank the economy so badly so quickly?
Welcome to the 2025-2029 recession!
@OnionSoup What’s the matter, your soup making you cry??
You’ll feel MUCH better after the AWESOME speech the Greatest President EVER delivers tonight!! It’s absolutely MUST SEE TV!!
Even our resident Bot approves!!
PANS! GLANDS! CRAYONS! AWESOME!
@IndifferentDude @OnionSoup
Dude, stop fucking insulting other Mehmembers…you can a absolutely voice your political opinions here without doing so. Have an actual conversation and stop being a child. This isn’t the place, take that shit to Facebook.
@OnionSoup @PHRoG That was an insult??
OK Mom, I’ll behave better so you don’t take my computer privileges away. K?
@IndifferentDude @OnionSoup @PHRoG You have to understand that someone like ID with his lack of education and limited processing skills, that is all he has-insults and cartoons. Feel sorry for him.
@Felton10 @OnionSoup @PHRoG Thanks “Master of Insults” Felton!!
I learned my skills from the best!!
Love ya my main Dude!! 
And don’t you come back no more, no more!!

Keep walking past the TV in the family room and can’t believe one person has that much shit in him to keep spewing it out for that long. Always knew he was full of it.
@Felton10
Time for another fact check:
@Felton10 Why did you even have the TV on?? Are you a secret Trump admirer and don’t want to let your friends know??
@IndifferentDude Always keep the TV on in the family room even if no one is in there (which was the case last night) so the parrot will hear some activity. If we found out she turned to that channel to listen to the talking turd, she is out of here.
@Felton10 @IndifferentDude I hope the parrot didn’t believe Trump’s lies. You have to give it better quality TV. If you start hearing the parrot demanding we invade Canada all is lost.
/showme a fascist parrot
@Felton10

@IndifferentDude @OnionSoup I’m sure she understood everything he was saying as I heard her sqawking a lot in the other room
@Felton10 @IndifferentDude @OnionSoup
/showme a parrot saying “MAGA!”
@mediocrebot Close enough…!
@shahnm Yes TDS is back, but the good news is that when the orange turd is finally flushed down the toilet, it will go away quickly. But the bad news is his supporters will still lack education, be stuck in low paying jobs and still be unable to process when someone is lying to them and taking advantage of them ie waiting for the next snake oil salesman to pounce.
@Felton10 Your classist, elitist (and frequently sexist and ableist) shit is not only classless, but tiresome, intellectually lazy, and just mindlessly boring as can be.
Your age doesn’t excuse this garbage.
@shahnm-TS-if what I post upsets you good. Just go back to what occupies your time and stop posting your childish editorial cartoon which shows
as much about you as you claim my posts show about me.
@Felton10 You can post whatever you want, Felton10. I will reiterate that there is nothing that you can say that would upset or offend me. Again, I do not let the insanity of others serve as a source of personal stress for myself.
I’m merely pointing out that you are cheapening this forum, embarrassing yourself and those who share your political views, and rendering any discussion with you regarding political or policy differences moot by always reverting to… to Felton10ism.
You do you. I’ll post cartoons and memes in response, because that’s the level of dignification that your posts merit.
@shahnm The fact that there are people as clueless as you and Indifferent Dude that buy into Trump’s insanity make me fear what is ahead.
My greatest satisfaction would come from hearing that the insanity that he has and will inflect upon the American people will hit his supporters the hardest.
I just love watching interviews of government workers who voted for Trump who have been fired and who are upset as their performance reviews were great with no justification other than a form letter alluding to their poor performance. Similarly those probationary workers who upended their lives by recently moving to take a government job who got axed also. Love it that they voted for the Orange Skidmark to make their life better and are now out of work. Hope it happens to everyone who voted for this miscreant.
@Felton10 So taking pleasure in the misfortune of others is your greatest joy? Hell of a way to spend your remaining years…
@shahnm Those who voted for Trump? You bet -those people deserve all the shit that can be dumped on them. Maybe if his actions affect them directly, they will wise up. But I doubt it. The people who voted for him deserve the worst if it. Stupid is as stupid does.
@Felton10
That’s something we can both agree on.
@shahnm You are too far gone in both brains and common sense to debate anything with you. Continue to consume Trump’s schmeckle as all you good MAGAnuts do.
@Felton10 Ok then. You just keep on hanging out in your MSNBC echo chamber and fill your head full of every tired leftist trope, rage-bait, and gaslight lie you can fit in there…
Yeah man!! Pull the plug and toss it away!!
Trump & Musk Drain The Swamp in This Johnny Cash Parody of I Walk The Line
@IndifferentDude
Then fill it with burning napalm, salt the smoldering embers, cover the resultant wasteland with cement, build an impenetrable wall around it, and just to be safe, fire a few missiles into it ever week or so forever.
OH NO!!
The Republicans are in BIG TROUBLE now!! 
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1897638214174687633
@blaineg Hunter “art”…?
The Defense Department has flagged over 26,000 photos and online posts on its website for deletion — because the administration has determined they have some kind of correlation to DEI.
The most laughably egregious flagged image is a photograph of the Enola Gay, the World War II aircraft that dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan, in August 1945. Although the pilot who flew the Enola Gay — Col. Paul Tibbetts Jr. — named the jet after his mother, Enola Gay Tibbets, it seems it’s on the department’s chopping block simply because the plane’s name contains the word “gay.”
We all know who to thank for this stupid action don’t we?
Protesting at universities and colleges is illegal now. (Although I’m sure only if it goes against government agenda). First arrests made as free speech has officially ended in the US.
First you attack protestors,.they’re easy targets… You’ll probably see a lot of online websites hit with lawsuits in the future. Expect journalists to be hit with lots of frivolous lawsuits. That’s what happened in Hungary, Russia, Indonesia, Turkey. Musk has all that data on everyone now. The idea is to make journalists seem unreliable so you trust the government agenda rather than facts.
Free speech usually one of the first rights to be lost. Buckle up we’re going to see how the 2nd World lives.
Just remember when the lawsuits start against journalism, that’s usually one of the next steps… This is a road others have walked before, this is all predictable.
@OnionSoup Yeh its really a dumpster fire out there. Everything that the Orange Skidmark touches has turned to shit. Its only a matter of time until Congressional Republican turn on him being more scared of the people who elected them than Trump. And when the people who voted for him continue to lose their jobs and pay more for everything, they might finally realize they were duped by a con man. Can’t wait for that to happen and will enjoy the show.
@Felton10 I hope congressional republicans turn on him, it’s really the best way to stop the erosion of democracy is for both parties to raise their hand and say they stand for democracy.
Remember this isn’t what Republicans stand for either.
@OnionSoup They will turn quickly when they realized Trump has been totally neutralized and is of no threat to them anymore. And it is coming quickly given everything he has done is going south fast. Trump will realize “it is the economy baby” just about the time the recession begins.
@Felton10 @OnionSoup
You guys must really have to work at it to be this disconnected from reality… It’s a little amusing if nothing else, but for your own sakes try just a bit of reality once in a while. Trust me, you’ll be happier.
@OnionSoup @shahnm I’m sure you don’t want to talk about the “Trumpcession” that is coming and how he has fucked up the great economy that Biden handed over to him. He can bully the uneducated, uninformed and the low information people ie the ones who voted for him but when he meets someone who will stand up for him, he will fold like a cheap tent.
My stocks took a hit (not nearly as bad as Musk), but I’ll be alright. Can’t wait for his voters to lose their jobs, houses, cars and can’t put food on their table due to his policies. I will laugh and laugh and applaud how stupid they were to vote for him.
@Felton10 @OnionSoup Fixing decades of leftist corruption, destructive foreign policy, despicable monetary policy, and all of the other disastrous and diabolical detritus of the leftist and globalist tyranny of the last century or so is going to result in some pain.
But if you’re so eager to watch this all crash and burn, and to thus revel in a little masochistic glee at the travails of his voters, why not cheer him on and try to expedite the entertainment??
@Felton10 @OnionSoup
I’d try to point out the absolute lunacy of this comment, but instead, I’ll simply share with you that you’re so comically wrong that you still don’t (or can’t or won’t) understand the reason for this map:
@Felton10 @OnionSoup @shahnm oooh, ooh! I know this one!
It where 30 million voters said “fuck this shit” and decided to not play the game.
@Felton10 @OnionSoup @PHRoG
Yeah - they figured that Trump had it in the bag and didn’t need to bother piling on the landslide.
Anyway, they didn’t vote - they don’t get to bitch. Take up any concerns about that with them directly. In the meantime, please see the above map.
@Felton10 @shahnm disconnected? Indonesia ran on a “Indonesia first” populist platform. Dissolved the checks and balances, arrested protesters, attacked the press. Broke long standing Allegiances to the West. Aligned with Russia and China instead.
Turkey ran on a “Turkey first” populist platform. Dissolved the checks and balances, arrested rivals, attacked the press. Broke down in relations with the west, sought closer ties to Russia.
Hungary ran on a “Hungary first” populist platform. Dissolved the checks and balances, attacked the free press. Broke down relations with the West. Sought closer ties to Russia.
Russia ran on a “Make Russia Great Again” populist platform. Dissolved the checks and balances. Arrested protesters and the press. Broke newly forged ties to the West instead sought to reforge ties with former Soviet countries and China.
What is happening in America? Ran on a populist “Make America Great Again” platform just like all the others. Trying to dissolve checks and balances, neutralizing the courts, bullying the legislative branch. Protesters being arrested. Journalists credibility being questioned. (There will be frivolous law suits against journalists before the end of the year) broke Alliegences with democratic nations to align with Russia and North Korea
We are following the exact same playbook as every other country that lost democracy… You have to be blind to world events to not see it.
@Felton10 @OnionSoup
On the contrary, the groundswell of support for Trump is based upon the ideal of restoring checks and balances, and to reverse the rot of an unelected, largely faceless bureaucracy pulling the strings of a government that stopped being for the people long ago (and has been growing inexorably worse).
The legislative branch is but one of the 3 pillars of government, but through years of corruption, apathy, or malice (all three?), it is now often defined by activist “judges” who usurp the power of the other two branches. We do not have adequate historic precedent to understand how to most equitably restore balance here, but allowing rogue unelected “judges” to run roughshod over the constitutionally defined distribution of power is not a sustainable (or safe) option. I applaud the current administration’s efforts to reign it in. You may not see this catastrophe for what it is, as the “judges” in question tend to be activists in your political favor. Nonetheless, they (and the system that deteriorated to the point that this even happened) are a cancer.
Those you call “journalists” are also more likely to be activists than journalists at this point. If you hitch yourself to the likes of Rachel Maddow or Jake Tapper, or the legions of graduates of “journalism” indoctrination programs at the leftist-run universities, you might mistakenly consider our legacy media to be the rightful fourth pillar of government. They’re not, and they have not been for a long time. They are part and parcel of the Democrat party. No less a mendacious propaganda machine than Pravda was to the USSR. They are worthy of equal, if not more, scorn, as our “media” supposedly represents our interests and protects our freedom.
We are, for the first time in a very long time, finally discarding the playbook that led to the cultural and political rot that defined (and in a way destroyed) the countries that you cited.
Stop looking at the shadows and believing what you’re told they’re supposed to mean. Turn around and gaze into the actual light. No politician, platform, or party is perfect. At least the right is trying to be decent.
@Felton10 @shahnm you probably said we were crazy when we said Trump wouldn’t leave peacefully and willingly the first time… Plenty of people predicted Jan 6th. Plenty of people are predicting it will happen again.
The only way Trump will leave office this time is in a bodybag or handcuffs.
When you have Trump’s circle calling for the removal of any Judge who does not bend to Trump’s will, that’s not “restoring balance of power”. When you have Trump threatening to remove any member of the legislative branch who does not bend to his will, that is not “restoring balance of power”.
Remember the executive branch is not supposed to make laws and not supposed to adjudicate. (Trump is far from the first to abuse power with executive orders though). The three branches are supposed to be equal to protect exactly the kind of situation that is brewing now.
Look, I’m not a leftist and I don’t agree with a lot that Rachel Maddow, etc say either. She is an extreme example. But the AP, one of the most respected news institutions? Banned from the White House because Trump doesn’t like them? Constant threats against newspapers that question him? Constantly calling legitimate media like ABC, CBS, etc “fake news”. It’s attack on legitimate media that is part of the problem. Sure they may sometimes show a slight left bias (I think naturally the type of people who go into media are more liberal, it’s who it attracts) but these are all mostly trustworthy even if with an occasional hint of bias. The problem comes from editorial news sources that deliberately skew news to suit politics (MSNBC, Fox, etc).
All dictators who replace democracy attack the free press and try to lower their legitimacy because it helps makes it easier to spread lies when the uneducated masses think the press is lying.
One of the core points of free government is a free press to monitor them. That includes criticisms. You start fighting criticism of the government you start fighting democracy.
@OnionSoup @shahnm I really would like to know what is your educational level and what you do for a living because for a MAGAnut you seem to write reasonably coherently but your conclusions are so off base and incomprehensible to anyone with functioning brain that there must be something I am nothing getting or don’t know allows you to come to the erroneous conclusions you do. Especially your assertion that Trump’s supports is based on him restoring checks and balances in our Government. Nothing can be further from the truth as every action he takes seems to diminish the power of the other branches of government and focuses on installing him as a despot.
@Felton10 plenty of well-thinking individuals can be misled. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, you know the author of Sherlock Holmes, got duped into believing in clairvoyants and that magic was real. He became friends with Houdini and the two would often argue. Houdini would show that tricks are illusions and how they work and Sir ACD dig in and fight back saying magic is real. Bizarre but true.
Find the TED talk on “birds arnt real” someday. It’s eye-opening. Essentially a group of scientists got together to promote a crazy conspiracy theory that all birds are really government spy drones. What they found is that even though they fundamentally knew what they were saying was a lie (because they invented it) they began to feel confrontational and wanting to stand up for the conspiracy theory because they began to take the attacks on “birds arnt real” personally every time they were called a Looney and disrespected. If that can happen to respected scientists it can happen to any man on the street.
Don’t dismiss those who support Trump as idiots. Yes, plenty are, but there are a lot of intelligent people supporting him too. Intelligent people can be caught by scams too. Others probably started off just liking some of his policies and when they were attacked for liking him they doubled down and started getting defensive and human nature is to lose reason and stand firm.
Don’t attack MAGA supporters, you just make them double down even if they’re beginning to doubt Trump themselves. It’s human nature.
Attack the policies of Trump not the people supporting him. Don’t wholesale attack Republicans either. Republicans are needed to help protect democracy. Both parties need to be involved to return America back to normal. When the whole party is attacked they’re more likely to double down and support Trump even if they don’t agree with him now.
If we are to get through this, America needs to not be divisive. We all need to stand up: left, right, and centre, against dictatorship. Remember Trumpism is not what most Republicans believe in. He goes against most of what the right stand for too.
@OnionSoup I understand what you are saying and agree with it to some extent as lots of people say hate Trump but not those who voted for him. But there is no one else to blame for this miscreant being back in power except for the people who voted for him and continue to support him.
I just hope that the people who still supports him are the ones who are adversely affected the most by his insanity and thirst for power. Only then might they see the error of their ways although I hope it is not too late for our country to recover.
I hate it that I feel this way. But everyday now this looney tune does something else to tear down this democracy and ruin what it took our forefathers centuries to create and fine tune.
@Felton10 @OnionSoup
@OnionSoup
We’re going to have to accept that our perspectives of what happened on 1/6 are never going to reconcile. You’re right that there was a lot of angst among a lot of people about that election. You’re right that Biden (and his handlers) received the majority of the ballots. Whether that represents the actual balance of voters has never been settled, and all official efforts to address it have been quashed through aggressive lawfare and/or politics of personal destruction.
[I copy/pasted the next paragraph from above. I’m short on time, and I am not sure I’ll have time to get back to this thread for most of the rest of the day.]
It’s very clear that this was an op, orchestrated to create a desired outcome. A lot of otherwise good people got swept up in it - who can blame them for thinking protesting wasn’t all that terrible a thing? After all, with all of the (unpunished) burning, breaking, killing, and mayhem unleashed by antifa and leftist activists over the past few years, one might begin to think wandering through the capitol after hours wouldn’t have been that big a deal. No one seemed to make much of a fuss when leftist protestors entered the halls of congress to scream at and threaten senators during the Obamacare vote, for example…
Judges who usurp the rightful authority of the executive branch at their whim must be removed. No unelected judge trumps the executive (or legislative) branch. Tyrants in Black Robes is not a branch of government, and this phenomenon needs to be thoroughly put down (in either political direction, but realistically this is a big MO of the left primarily).
AP, CBS, ABC, etc at one time were less biased. Maybe “center-left”, but whatever. That ended a while ago, and they have been sliding further leftward ever since Reagan. They lurched firmly into leftist activism beginning with Trump, and at this point it is unlikely that they can ever again regain the right to be called objective journalists. I can go on about this, but you’ll have to dig into it yourself if you want. I’ll never convince you, and if you google it you’ll just get hits from AP, CBS, ABC… talking about how great they are.
Believe it or not, I have no gripe with Rachel Maddow and her like. She’s selling a product, but there isn’t any ambiguity about what that product is. Just because I don’t want it doesn’t mean that I think it shouldn’t exist for those who do. My real gripe is with the erstwhile “media”, who claim righteousness based upon their past role as the fourth pillar, but in reality function as insidious left-wing propaganda hucksters.
Media bias isn’t just about what you say in the stories you print. It is as much about which stories you choose to print, and perhaps more so about which stories you choose not to print…
All dictators who replace democracy use their “press” to spin themselves as well as the world view through which they wish to cudgel their subjects.
Yep. That’s what I’m saying. The “media” you laud are the ones who spent years giving Biden a tongue bath no matter what his handlers had him do, who actively hid and actively lied about his obvious mental decline, and who agreed that it was in keeping with our norms and precious democracy to dispose of him and replace him on the dem ticket with someone who had received no votes or voter input at all (once that became the marching orders of the left). Suddenly, these same “media” types find all kinds of things to criticize… That isn’t media - that’s activists. They have no right to be regarded or treated as media, and that very much includes AP, CBS, ABC, etc.
@Felton10
I’m not into credentialism. I’ll say this - if you add the time it takes to get a law degree and an accounting degree, I still have far more education than that. I’ll go further to add that my education was not an indoctrination, as seems to be the standard fare at most colleges and universities these days (and the past couple of decades or so).
I’m also not MAGA. I am a libertarian leaning constitutional conservative. I believe first and foremost in personal responsibility and individual liberty. In a 2-party system, we go with the best choice. What the left has proffered during my lifetime has been a flaming dumpster overflowing with the most vile shit imaginable. You might consider this a pity, as I started off my young political awareness long ago thinking I was a democrat. Vetting Bill Clinton when deciding how I would vote in my first presidential election fixed that temporary error pretty damn fast, though.
Now I really have to go, and will probably have to hang it up for the rest of the day… Enjoy
@Felton10 @shahnm there were lots of investigations into the election that year and they all showed there was no rigging. The problem is, if you discount all non-editorial news sources you don’t hear that. That’s why traditional news sources are so important rather than getting all your news from editorials and why the press must be free.
If you’re worried about political activism. Get your news from overseas news sources. BBC, Deutsche Welle, Reuters, le Monde, etc. They all cover the news in America, have English versions available and are not interested in partisan politics in foreign countries like their own domestic markets.
You’re more likely to hear the truth from legitimate news media than editorial news media. Yes, some may have a slight left bias, as I said, I believe journalists tend to be slightly leftists… But it will be news as happened not editorially fixed. Its not trying to mislead you. Any news editorial such as Fox or MSNBC has an agenda they’re deliberately trying to mislead you in one direction or the other. That’s their reason for existing. It’s important not to let editorials dupe you.
You say you agree with three branches of government but then say that you’re against judges that stand in Trump’s way. That’s exactly what I’m saying. They’re equal branches. The judge is no more acting against Trump than Trump is acting against the judicial. They have equal power. Trump has no more constitutional power than the Judiciary. The Judiciary is doing its job as an equal power.
I also question if you know what libertarianism is. The core tenants behind libertarianism is the free flow of, goods, ideas, and people without government interference. Trump is the polar opposite of libertarianism. If you don’t believe in the free flow of goods, ideas and people you are not a libertarian.
@OnionSoup @shahnm “if you add the time it takes to get a law degree and an accounting degree, I still have far more education than that.” All I can say to that is Wow-The conclusions you come to in your posts don’t indicate you have used any of the analytical processes you gained with all that education in any way, shape or form.
@Felton10 @OnionSoup
I only have a few minutes…
@OnionSoup
There is no longer any such thing as “non-editorial news sources”. I know you still believe otherwise, which is why you can tune in to some of these “non-editorial news sources” and congratulate yourself on being objectively informed. You’re not. You’re allowing yourself to be gaslighted by decidedly editorial “news” sources, with historically respectable sounding pedigrees…
I should have been more clear in my use of the word libertarian. I am socially libertarian leaning. I never called myself a libertarian. To wit: I don’t give any fucks what people do behind their own closed doors, as long as it is consensual, not harmful to others, and no one has to be pressured to wave a flag or plant a banner in support of, or opposition to, it.
@Felton10
Sorry friend, but no one made you arbiter of what conclusions have value, are right or wrong, or represent a certain level of education. Again, you would be happier, and perhaps hate others less, if you could somehow learn to wrap your head around the idea that good-hearted, intelligent, thoughtful, and informed people can approach issues from different positions and thus have diametrically opposed viewpoints, rendering neither any less good-hearted, intelligent, thoughtful, or informed.
If you didn’t manage to learn that somewhere in your 80+ years, I don’t delude myself that these internet forum discussions are going to change that…
@Felton10 @shahnm so you’re saying you think deliberately partial news editorials are less likely to gaslight you than theoretically neutral and respected free press news sources that have been around 100+ years?
Even when global, located overseas and not directed links to any US political party or politician?
That’s quite a statement to make- and I’m sure you don’t really believe it either. It’s also exactly the kind of beliefs that led to the downfall of democracy time and time again all over the world. When you seperate people from the truth you seperate them from democracy.
The key to maintaining democracy is transparency and access to accurate facts.
@Felton10 @OnionSoup
It’s not gaslighting when they’re openly selling a partisan product. It is for the consumer to decide whether or not they wish to “buy” that product. Whether it’s Maddow or Hannity - neither is trying to gaslight anyone. They are what they say they are, and aren’t trying to hide it.
It is gaslighting when they represent themselves as nonpartisan news sources. My contention is that such things don’t really exist anymore. If you are misled or naïve enough to believe otherwise, you will allow yourself, by definition, to be gaslighted. I have no idea why you think that foreign correspondents lack bias or do not have an agenda when it comes to US news/politics, but that’s as ludicrous as to think that ABC and CBS sell actual unbiased news.
If you want balance, the best place I can think of for that is a site like realclearpolitics.com. They put up articles from partisans on both sides. Read them all and see where you fit in.
Remember,
@OnionSoup @shahnm I’m sorry-you seem to be a thoughtful person and I do give a lot of leeway to those who give me specific reasons why they support Trump. But your comment today about him wanted to preserve the system of checks and balances in our democracy just doesn’t compute no matter which way I examine it even standing on my head. Everything he says or does indicate he wants to be king with no checks or balances on any actions he takes. It is your most outrageous assertion yet. And BTW-I am 78.
@Felton10 @shahnm it absolutely is gaslighting if you present opinions and editorials as facts.
@Felton10 @OnionSoup
@Felton10
The last 4 years in particular, but really the growing sprawl of government in general through the administrations of both parties, have been a knife in the back of American constitutional governance.
Specific to the last administration, we watched a shadow cabal of unelected bureaucrats pull the strings of a puppet president, while lawmakers, media, and others at every level openly lied about his competence and who actually was in control. We still don’t know who, BTW. The autopen signed all but one of the his signatures.
We watched activist lawfare at every level, with weaponized judicial attacks against those the left found troublesome.
We watched our military decimated and emasculated, our reputation soiled and ridiculed, and our people impoverished and silenced. Leftist violence was speech, we were told, while patriotic speech was violence (remember the planned 1/6 op, doncha know…).
We watched the agencies of our government entrusted with the safety and security of Americans and the American way of life usurped into the service of leftist activism and accumulation of power.
We watched our lawmakers and their media puppets tell us that the devastation we were seeing with our own eyes, feeling in our own wallets, was nothing to see, here, folks… We watched them mock and laugh at regular people when they mentioned concerns about any of this.
@Felton10, you won’t agree. This isn’t the lens through which you saw the last 4 years. It is, however, the lens through which 77.3 million people saw it. though. We want America to look like America again. A large part of that is the checks and balances that were repurposed and redistributed into the service of the left’s relentless pursuit of power.
No more judicial activism. No more lawfare and unequal treatment under the law. No weaponized taxation and audits to keep those unsavory conservatives and their causes in line. No more gestapo-fication of the FBI and CIA. No more theft of our nation’s wealth and our children’s future.
Trump was most certainly not the leader we thought we wanted. He is absolutely the leader we need, though. If nothing else, he makes the lefts’ heads explode pretty much every time he opens his mouth. At this point, it’s much needed hope and some comic relief. In the long run, there’s a chance that he’ll actually push through some meaningful, lasting change for the better.
@OnionSoup
That is exactly what I’ve been saying. The part you’re having trouble wrapping your head around is that the legacy media is doing exactly that - presenting opinions as facts.
I don’t watch any of the opinion media, but I have more respect for the Hannities and the Maddows of the world because again, they are openly telling you that they are pushing their opinions. They do not try to couch what they say and do as news.
Those who pretend to provide objective news, but in reality use that as an insidious vehicle for political bias are frankly evil. That would apply in either political direction, but this has 100% been the purview of the left. For examples, see AP, ABC, CBS, and of course BBC, et al.
@OnionSoup @shahnm Admittedly two people looking at the same set of facts can come to different conclusions, but it is a mystery how anyone in the Trump orbit can complain about judicial activism and be blind to what Trump is doing which is much more overt than anything you claim the democrats did. I think every one of the prosecutions under the Biden administration of Trump and his miscreants was more than warranted. He has to be luckiest SOB alive. If there were any justice, he would have been in jail long before he entered the political arena. But always hope he will get his either before or after he leaves this earth-preferably before so he will understand that he is nowhere as great as he thinks he is and the worst President ever.
Caught on a hot mike at the state of the union-he thanked Chief Justice Roberts for all he has done for him and told him he won’t forget it. Just recently the pardon attorney who was handling the request to keep Mel Gibson from getting his gun permit back was fired by Deputy Atty General Todd Blanche as she opposed giving it back to him His right to own a gun was taken away because of spousal abuse issues some time back, Gibson is a Trump supporter and one of the bigger anti-semites around. The less said about the unqualified hacks he appointed during his first term-Aileen Cannon-she was rated unqualified by the ABA for the position to which she was appointed, but paid Trump back in spades with her ruling one of which was overturn with a scathing rebuke by the appeals court.
@OnionSoup AntiBDS laws are decades old.
@Felton10 @shahnm As said above, I don’t believe any newsource is 100% accurate, but the large, long running news institutions whose reputations and long-term income are based on appearing neutral are a heck of a lot more closer to the truth than politically motivated editorials (another name for that is propoganda). This is true for the left and the right.
It’s no wonder you subscribe to conspiracy theories about shadow governments pulling the strings if your source of news is politically motivated editorials. Sorry to say this but you’ve been conned. Propoganda is effective as shown on you and millions of other people in other failed democracies.
Going round in circles here- but this is exactly the first move in every country where democracy was lost. Step one- convince the people the media is lying so that you can push your lies instead. It’s always step one.
But if you don’t trust the local media and think they’re lying to you on behalf of a political party- as I said, look at international media instead. Plenty of reputable sources out there than have no dog in US political infighting. BBC, la monde, deutsche welle, reuters, etc, etc. If you think they’re all biased against Trump too- ask yourself- why? Why is every reputable news agency in the entire world saying the exact same things that are different to party-sponsored propoganda machines. And ask yourself why you think the propoganda machines are accurate but the news medias that thrive on being at least viewed as impartial are all corrupt. With just a little reasoning you’ll see it doesn’t make sense.
@Felton10 @OnionSoup
As you have both repeatedly emphasized, you accept what you are told by “the large, long running news institutions” as objective fact. You therefore see the world, Trump, what he says and does, and how to process all of that, through that filter.
@OnionSoup, I’m not sure where you got the idea that I only seek information through opinion media. As I tried to say plainly - I don’t watch any of that. The “mainstream” media is impossible to avoid - we’re inundated in it. I’m well aware of what they’re pitching. I just think it’s an abomination that that’s largely the talking points as provided, sanitized, and sanctioned by the left.
@OnionSoup, you also don’t know what propaganda is. “Politically motivated editorials” are just that: politically motivated editorials. They’re intellectual junk food, and do not pretend to be news.
“News” that is politically biased is what propaganda is. That’s what you base your world view upon. That’s why you and Felton10 don’t understand the right, don’t understand why the left is failing, and see everything Trump-related spun as some nefarious revelation.
Just one silly example, but illustrative: After the SOTU, Trump (like all cognitively competent presidents) schmoozes with the audience. Telling people you appreciate what they do is pretty standard schmoozing. Reading more into that with Roberts is particularly silly, as he’s the most irritating anti-Trump and anti-right justice of the majority (a fact that isn’t lost on anybody, least of all Trump). And yet it’s still good to be jovial and schmooze at events like that. And of course the spin by the “the large, long running news institutions” goes on…: << Trump thanked him… >>
As we all acknowledge - we’ll never convince each other of our positions. I cannot thank each of you enough for what turned into a reasoned, mature discussion though.
Time will tell how things play out. Perhaps one or the other of us will come to see the other’s views come to fruition…
@OnionSoup @shahnm I can understand you think Trump was just “smoozing”. Trump never does that-he means exactly what he says. You should know that.
And yes the proof of the pudding will be the results or lack thereof and whether Trump makes this country great again or does such damage it might never recover. The first sign for me will be when my social security check is no where to be seen on the day it is supposed to arrive. Not a big deal for me as long as it finally arrives, but there are going to be some pissed off MAGAs for whom their social security ck is their only or primary source of income each month.
@Felton10 @OnionSoup
He’s a businessman and an entertainer. He always does that.
Which is what you’ve been repeatedly saying you’re looking forward to, right?
Meanwhile though, you’re going to get more and more of this…
https://x.com/i/status/1887290743032561803
@OnionSoup @shahnm Yes looking forward to MAGA’s who are pissed at Trump-looking forward to that more than the end of tax season.
@Felton10 @OnionSoup

Shame we never got another Luigi Mangione.
@DrunkCat that’s civil war levels of action
Which is an ironic name, since politics are supposed to be a civil form of warfare.
“All politics is local” (Tip O’Neill)“All politics is bullshit” (@Thumperchick)
@phendrick it is a challenge to moderate a political thread when I have some pretty strong political opinions.
I try to make sure I’m not letting my bias drive my editing.
But yeah, everything is bullshit.
@Thumperchick
I imagine your “pretty strong political opinions” are different from mine, but FWIW you’re doing a great job.
@Thumperchick You certainly come across as more impartial than most on here (AND on the rest of the threads!), so second shahnm’s kudos above.
Are we all starting to join hands ala Kid Rock?
(probably not…)
…but, kumbaya.
@phendrick @Thumperchick You know, I have for most of my adult life had friends, associates, and clients with opposing political beliefs. I never had reason to doubt their sincere love for country and belief that their take on things was because they thought it was for the better good. I didn’t think they would have felt differently about me and my beliefs. Even though we all knew the other was absolutely “wrong”…
I don’t know why that can’t still be the case. Agreeing to disagree can be a good starting point. Agreeing to try to learn from each other can be an even better one.
I don’t claim to be perfect about this stuff. I’ve certainly let emotion and snark sometimes get the better of me in these forum postings. I think that’s why it’s harder to recognize our common ground and common interests this way, compared with in person.
I dunno. I’m just rambling about kumbaya, I guess…
@Felton10 @OnionSoup
Holy shit guys - Meh just scheduled a stat Mehrathon to shut us up!
@shahnm If you look at the requirement to get an IRK-that won’t work.
@Felton10 We could promise to shut up a little longer maybe…?
Why are steroids and other performance enhancers illegal in competitive sports? Seriously, some people are born whenever potential, some people are forged. Let everyone know what’s possible. And also what the side effects are.
@pakopako [is your real name Lance Armstrong?]
But yours is imo a legitimate question. But, is it a political bullshit topic, or more a societal or medical one?
FWiW, protein could be considered a performance enhancer, compared to those who do without.
@phendrick
What’s the difference? People who break the rules make the rules. Thanks to either stem cell or animal research, there have been improvements in diabetic care, bone regrowth, even cloning technology to create tailored organ replacements… But for whatever reasons they remain rare and expensive.
We live in an age of plenty, including a burgeoning population; what logistical hurdles are left for improving the masses other than “politics” (people in power trying to retain the status quo).
Taking sports competitions to the extreme, they’re basically circuses showing off the “freaks of humanity”. The outliers of fittest, smartest, or tallest (with additional retirement with training) - why not also include categories to show off other human achievement? Like how the para-Olympics, a showcase of human spirit, also shows off technological enhancements.
Hey @Felton10,
This stuff will really bother you. You’ll have to put off your eagerly anticipated revelry at the plight of the lowly Trump voter…
Inflation rate more than halves after Trump’s first full month back in office
Egg Prices Are Falling Fast, Democrats Most Hurt
@shahnm You think I or anyone else with a functioning brain gives a shit about the cost of a few eggs when the value of most eveyone’s stock portfolio (including 401k accounts) have gone down 10% in the past week due to Trump’s whiplash erratic trade tariffs.
I forgot most MAGA’s live paycheck to paycheck so they don’t have any excess funds to invest in the stock market-so the price of eggs is really important to them.
@Felton10
Oh the left was quite worked up that, less than 2 weeks into Trump’s presidency, the cost of eggs was higher (since Biden’s handlers had most of the chickens killed off in one of their predictably misguided and boneheaded schemes)… I’m just reporting the good news you need to know (but won’t really get through your super honest reliable legacy media).
Here’s some advice about your stocks: don’t sell right now. Maybe even buy…
No charge - enjoy!
@shahnm As a CPA and financial advisor you don’t think I know to sit pat during the market’s up and downs. Who in their right mind would dump a stock that has gone up almost 2,000%. The capital gains on that would be murder.
@Felton10 Just making sure – you seemed worried for a minute there…
@shahnm Everyone should be concerned when the value of their assets goes down through no fault of their own-but worried nah.
Just the people who have bought intp Trump’s bullshit that he cares about them and will make their life better. Boy are they in for a surprise.
@Felton10

@Felton10
The bad news just keeps on piling up, Felton10! You may have to put a delay on that case of Dom Perignon you’ve been looking forward to quaffing when the terrible Trump Tsunami hits all the Magats… Pity, pity, pity! This is just - Just – JUST AWFUL!!
Or else, maybe try a little reality for a moment. Be a bit happier… You’ll like it - I promise!
More Trump Success: Core Consumer Prices Dip To Lowest Level In Almost 4 Years As Inflation Eases
@shahnm Are you sure you have a job and are a functioning productive member of society? The time you spend digging up all the worthless shit you post indicates you have nothing better to do like most Trump supporters. Seems like you are trying to convince yourself you are right rather than others and not doing a very good job of it either given the number of likes and positive responses you receive.
I think you ought focus your efforts and worry more about all the MAGA losers who are uneducated, living from paycheck to paycheck and have nothing in their life going for them who are looking for Trump to help them and will be in worse shape when all the crap he is inflicting on America for his own personal gain comes tumbling down on them.
@Felton10
Don’t be mad Felton10 - I’m just trying to cheer you up! At 78, you should be looking for peace and contentedness. My goal is to help, in the best way I can.
And don’t worry a bit about me. I’m very productively employed, and in my professional role can often budget my time as I choose. I have a bit of extra down time these days, building up to a trip to Vail to ski among the real constituents of the democrat party (the trust-fund babies, the accidental billionaire dumbasses, the daddy’s money layabouts, the limousine liberals - you know the types…) Thanks for your concern, though. It means so much!
Obama and Biden were Nazis too… And as always, Democrats reek of hypocrisy.
https://x.com/i/status/1900520483285532979
Always knew the Demonrats were full of
!! Now maybe they’ll all EXPLODE as a result of their TDS!! 
The Democrat powers-that-be have provided their praetorian guard media (AP, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN…) with their new script. Pretty much like clockwork: everyone in unison, now - ready? Go!
@shahnm I’m so glad I am present in this moment for the Demonrats to present a moment for the Republicans to continue giving presents to ALL Americans!! What a terrific moment in time!!

Good job jerkoffs in sharing the classified details of the US’s military attack on the Hourthis not only on an unclassified messaging app but including a journalist on all the group chats. What do you expect when an idiot hires bigger idiots to run the government.
As usual the orange toilet floater said he didn’t know a thing about it just like he doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.
@Felton10 Funny that when the right accidently screws up, it’s a major scandal. When the left cavorts with Chinese spies, “leaks” (shares) intel with foreign agents, and generally purposefully acts in blatantly treasonous ways, it’s just standard operating procedure. All of the leftist journalists (BIRM) with their panties in a wad today are the same hive of scum who have protected far worse from the left by:
It is nice that there’s accountability and honesty in these affairs for a change. Mistakes happen. People should be called out and when necessary punished for them. This concept will be hard for you to understand, Felton10, as you’ve been programmed to believe that the left and their band of useless (and useful) idiots are perfect, while Orange Man Bad…
@Felton10 Hey old friend! Isn’t is great you’ve been immortalized in a comic strip?? I think they got the very essence of you perfectly!!
@IndifferentDude Wouldn’t expect anything more than then this type of response from you as your grade level doesn’t permit you to do anything more than this.
@shahnm This wasn’t a mistake. Mistakes happen to people who know what they are doing. Trump hired people for his administration that look good on TV and are willing to suck his cock (both men and women). None of them have anywhere close to requisite experience or skills to preform the job for which they were hired.
Thank God that none of our service men were injured or killed when that idiot drunk Hegseth spewed forth the exact plans for the attack hours before it happened on an unsecured server. It was a disaster waiting to happen. And everyone blaming Goldberg when he was invited to the chat like he did something wrong. He was the only one who did something right in refusing to disclose the exact attack plans and not even writing about it before it happen.
This administration has already fucked up so many times in their haste to try to convince the uneducated and informed that they are doing something worthwhile. Can’t wait for the one big fuck up which takes them down. With such incompetence at every level, it is bound to happen soon.
@Felton10 Is that you Kamala??
Man, your impression of her infamous Word Salads
is quite impressive!! 
@IndifferentDude You really are an {impressively wonderful person} aren’t you.
TC edit - no name calling
@Felton10 Nope. I’m actually a GENIUS!!
@Felton10 Blatant name-calling. Stop falling for bait.
@zhicks1987 I know but it is hard to believe someone like that is walking around unattended in our society. But then again there is Trump.
@Felton10 Where were you when the leftist America haters actively and purposefully leaked information (routinely) to our enemies? When the most stunningly incompetent administration in the history of this country willfully sacrificed American lives and treasure in their ham-fisted (and I’m being so very generous with that adjective) retreat from Afghanistan?
It seems to me that this thread has pretty much run its course and I’d like to suggest that the thread be locked or deleted. What started as humor that didn’t seem like it would raise any hackles has devolved into name calling of both politicians and between the same small group of Mehtizens. The “be respectful” rule for this thread appears to have been thrown out the window. I’m not sure what the goal is of the taunting, provocation, and insults, but it sure doesn’t seem to have changed opinions one iota. I’m just not seeing a reason to continue down this path. Am I alone in feeling this way? What say you, @thumperchick?
@ItalianScallion The thread’s purpose is to keep them from posting anywhere else. Because some of these same people couldn’t see a thread about toothbrushes without saying something political and inappropriate. I vote we keep them here.
Thanks @sammydog01 for the explanation. I guess I haven’t been here long enough to see them bringing politics into other threads. What I don’t understand is why they just don’t set up something like a Signal group for themselves to do their political bickering instead of having a corner for this on an otherwise nice forum where everyone else gets along with each other.
@ItalianScallion @sammydog01 You’re not seeing the politics in other threads because they get edited by the mods.
Thanks @Kyeh. That makes sense.
@ItalianScallion - @sammydog01 has it right. This is the only space we allow politics in the forum.
Got it, @Thumperchick. Thank you!
@ItalianScallion @sammydog01 @Thumperchick I suggested it before and never got a yeh and nay on it. Why don’t we take a vote on it and see if anyone except those who have no life want to keep it open?
@Felton10 @ItalianScallion @Thumperchick Or people who don’t want to post could just not post.
@Felton10 @ItalianScallion @sammydog01 @Thumperchick
There is one particular individual who could never help himself from posting political drivel in just about every thread. He insulted not just the politicians (well one in particular…), but everyone who supported the politicians he dislikes. Not just insulted - called for harm and violence against them as he smeared them with the vilest of disgusting (but invariably childish and comically immature) invective.
There had been calls to end all political discourse here a long time ago because the rancor that this garbage generated infested so many otherwise innocent threads. However, in the spirit of keeping Meh a place where anyone could speak their mind (within reason), the powers that be decided to create this quarantine thread.
I had been one of the people who for a long time wanted the politics shut down here. For years, I just avoided this thread as well. Why I decided to jump into it is a separate story. Perhaps I’ll delve into it someday if anyone cares…
Anyway, flame on y’all.
@ItalianScallion @sammydog01 @Thumperchick Well when someone tries to dox you two times and keeps posting cartoons directed at you which shows their intellect and the powers at be don’t have the balls to ban this person from posting at all, hard to stand by and let them have their way.
@Felton10 @shahnm Just stop it, both of you. Here we’re having a nice discussion about how to deal with politics on Meh and the two of you have to start the mudslinging at each other. You have this forum pretty much to yourselves. You don’t have to hijack this discussion too. I’ll ask you directly: why don’t you take your feud to some other place, like Signal or WhatsApp?
@ItalianScallion I was referring to Ignorant Dude FYI. I can ignore both him and Shahnm, but difficult to ignore their stupidity.
@ItalianScallion I don’t think you know what “mudslinging” means. You made a suggestion - a reasonable one in fact. I just provided you with a little history. Sorry you didn’t like the history, but it is what it is…
But anyway, if you don’t like this thread, why waste your time in it? Just to enjoy clutching your pearls?
It’s fine if you want to do that - clutch away for all anyone should care. However, your “nice discussion” needs a little back story and reality to be an honest discussion.
@Felton10 @ItalianScallion
really hard to ignore when it shows up in elections
@Felton10 @phendrick @sammydog01 @Kyeh @shahnm @Thumperchick Well, this all turned out to be a waste of time. As the Goat, I fully accept the blame for wasting everyone else’s time too. The Goat will now return to grazing on other threads and ingesting more blame. Baaah! Bleat!
@shahnm You never want an honest discussion. If you did you would have responded to my post about Hegseth. I didn’t agree with everything Biden did, but that is past history. Your are suggesting that we let all of the incompetence in the Trump administration ruin this country due to what you claim Biden did. I can’t believe you agree with everything Trump has been doing but to remain silent on everything means you agree with throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Trump doesn’t care about results he only wants headlines-look what I am doing and fast. Tariffs on everything and everybody (who cares about what it does to prices or our relations with our neighbors), get rid of 20% or more of the government regardless if they are needed (who cares if services get fucked up or if the form letters he sent to everyone about being fired for poor performance prevents them from getting unemployment) (we don’t have time to determine which job and or people are really needed), deport everyone who came illegally even if they have some sort permission to be here now with no due process (I have to get rid of these people even if they aren’t violent criminals to keep my promises), release all 1/6 prisoners even the most violent (this is signal to them to commit more crimes)-the list goes on and on.
It is only a matter of time until the shit really hits the fan with Trump and then everyone will be saying why did I vote for this snake oil salesman but by then it will be too late.
@Felton10 @ItalianScallion @phendrick @sammydog01 @shahnm @Thumperchick
It was a valud question. If you want to see a very different political thread, check out the one on Casemates.
@Felton10
I did reply. I have not been actively posting much, as I was away last week. I did take the time to say this as part of my response to your comment:
“It is nice that there’s accountability and honesty in these affairs for a change. Mistakes happen. People should be called out and when necessary punished for them.”
I’m not opposed to calling out (so called) Republicans when they screw up or do shitty things. And there’s a class of those assholes who do that for a living. There’s an entire grift industry of RINOs and opportunists out there wearing the red badge… I’m harder on them than I am on the Democrats.
As for the specific issue in question… I lifted this from elsewhere, but it’s food for thought. Two sides of a coin, what what…
"Jeffrey Goldberg, Real Reporter and Totally Not a Democrat Political Operative, held on to a “scoop” he had two weeks ago to release it on the day that Tulsi Gabbard and John Ratcliffe testified before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, for the purpose of badgering Trump officials into not using Signal.
Which Biden approved the use of, btw.
And they did this so that their allies in the Administration could once again spy on them using hacker back-doors into the government’s email systems.
Why hold on to a fake “scoop” for so long if not for a political attack purpose? People release scoops ASAP because there’s always the chance someone will out-scoop you first. How did Jeffrey Goldberg know he wasn’t the only person accidentally added to the chat?
So no, he held it for one reason only, to give his Democrat bosses time to plan a coordinated op.
The Administration says that none of the texts Jeffrey Goldberg were classified, which means they are officially un-classified and Jeffrey Goldberg can legally release them.
Instead, he plays a game where he insists that he saw all sorts of “war plans” and Top Secrets but he can’t say what they were because Sacred Honor compels him…
Please brah, you gotta believe me brah, those texts were totally filled with Top Secret War Plans, I just can’t prove it brah, muh prinzibuhls won’t allow me to vindicate my name, you just have to believe me brah…"
@shahnm Sometime back you claimed you were a libertarian and not a died in the wool MAGA supporter. Every comment you made above proved you have bought into their lies and excuses hook, line and sinker. They first attached Goldberg when he wasn’t the one who was responsible for adding himself to the chat on an unsecured line. You said he waited to release the story for maximum effect. So what-was not everything he said true. And the Republicans don’t do that? What was Noem doing down at that prison in her photo op? There are no dogs to murder down there.
As far as the semantics about what Hegseth talked about on the chat. When was the last time you saw such details of a planned operation even years later. What ordinance was used and the timing of its use even minutes before the attack happened on an unsecured line if it fell into the wrong hands would have given others the precious minutes they needed to take cover, react and respond possibly thus putting US service men in harm’s way.
That only happens when not the “best and brightest” are chosen to run our country. You claimed Trump choose the most qualified people he could to fill jobs. Nothing could be further from the truth. He choose people who supported him and were willing to do his bidding . Not one of them is qualified for the job they are in.
There are more and bigger fuckups to come with this group of idiots let by the biggest idiot and retard of them all.
I am just going to drop in long enough to say that I’ve seen smarter cabinets at Ikea, and then duck out again.
@werehatrack

@shahnm @werehatrack Even if all those things listed were true (and they are not), Trump and his incompetent unqualified administration have fucked up more things in his first 4 weeks in office than Biden did in 4 years. One has to be deaf, dumb and blind not to realize that.
@Felton10 @werehatrack

Just so you everyone doesn’t think I can’t criticize the Democrats when criticism is due below is my latest letter to the editor which was recently published (my 81st letter published since 2013 to those of you who think meh is my only political venting outlet).
Never thought I’d be writing a letter to the editor to complain about my fellow Democrats but Schumer and other Democrats support of the House CR so it could pass the Senate was the last straw. Shutting down the government couldn’t do any more damage than Musk/DOGE has already done.
I have finally had enough of the Democrats inept handling of practically every situation where they proved themselves to be as clueless and gutless as they come.
It all started with Merrick Garland and his dawdling in bringing federal charges against Donald Trump for his 1/6 activities and document handling. If done sooner, Trump might have never been in a position to run for President again. Then there was Biden. His mental and physical decline must have been obvious to all early in his administration so he could have either resigned and turned the Presidency over to Harris or said he wasn’t running earlier. Doing either would have given the Democrats a better chance to retain the White House either with Harris already as President or a qualified group of candidates from which to choose.
They have no one but themselves to blame for the predicament they are in.
Pee is stored in the balls.
@zhicks1987

@Felton10
I never called myself a libertarian. I said I am a socially libertarian leaning constitutional conservative.
Words and facts matter.
As for the rest of your comment above, let’s just agree to disagree on most of this (as usual
).
You obviously thought that Obama, Biden, and all of their incompetent, sycophantic, throne-sniffing, boot-licking half wits were competent public servants. Given that, I don’t think that we’ll find common ground to discuss the merits of meritocracy vs. the shittiness of shitocracy.
@shahnm For someone who says “facts matter” you seem to totally disregard every misstep that Trump and his incompetents have made that even a blind man could see. I at least recognize and admit to some of Biden’s missteps but you are totally brainwashed by Trump. That is why I said you are fully on MAGA-no ifs ands or buts.
@Felton10
You keep saying that.
@Felton10 @shahnm
Hey you two!
Rush right over to your friendly neighborhood Ollie’s.
i’m sure each of you would have great uses for these, though i suppose each of your uses would be quite different!
Go ahead, entertain us with your anticipated uses!
[if not a sellout there, they could end up on Meh, and then wouldn’t the forums be fun!]
@phendrick @shahnm I guess with the way the economy is tanking under Trump, the MAGA faithful have decided this isn’t a necessity preferring to purchase eggs instead. I have a good place for where MAGA’s should stick this, but I doubt it would fit there.
At least meh had the good sense not to outbid Ollie’s for this priceless piece of memorabilia. As for me I already have my priceless piece of history to remember Trump by.
@Felton10 @phendrick
It’s a clock. It indicates the time. I would use it bigly to learn the beautiful time. Everybody says so.
@Felton10
As a connoisseur of such things, you’ll love the Biden Crime Family series. Of course, you’ll need the full 3-year subscription to cover all of the involved members of that cartel, but think of the décor possibilities!
@shahnm Anyone who uses the term “Biden Crime Family” has their head so far up their ass, they haven’t seen the light of day for years. We can all admit that Hunter Biden traded on his family name to peddle influence he didn’t have for money his didn’t deserve. His addiction to drugs is well documented and sad and hopefully he has gotten his life back together.
Trump on the other hand is one of the most disgusting vile vindictive perverts around. He also is one of the luckiest-he should either be in jail or dead. Even his gold digging bimbo wife who is equally disgusting doesn’t want anything to do with him. What normal women would whose husband cheated on her right after their son was born with a porn star and then tried to pay her off. His admitted genital grabbing exploits as well as the numerous sexual allegations against him should upset any normal person.
Never admitting you are wrong or lost anything is a signature trait of his. Loyalty is a one way street for him-he demands total loyalty from others, but one indication that you are not on his side-you are history-ask Jeff Sessions. He will stop at nothing to settle what he perceives to be an old score. He has taken advantage of everyone and every institution he has ever been involved with. Racism against anyone not a WASP is something he has practiced all his life.
Again it is my hope that those who have supported and voted for him are the ones that suffer the most and the longest for electing such a person to lead our country. If that happens, I know justice will have been served.
@Felton10
Alright folks, EVERYBODY SING ALONG!!
@IndifferentDude
I’m sorry Dude. I don’t think leftists have friends. They have co-conspirators. The have consiglieres. The have minions, to be sure. And of course, they have mortal enemies who must be destroyed (the majority of the population who doesn’t see the world as they instruct them to)…
I’m sure Felton10 would have replied to your post, but he’s probably busy burning a Tesla dealership and shrieking at someone in a red hat that he feels is literal violence…
@IndifferentDude @shahnm
Randomly calling out another user just to throw shade? That should be baleeted.
@shahnm @zhicks1987 As if the person being called out hadn’t done the exact same thing?
BTW, randomly popping into a thread and expressing an opinion that is without merit warrants a punishment of 40 lashes with razor wire!!

@IndifferentDude @shahnm @zhicks1987 My comment was made after you tried to dox me two times so don’t act like you are the innocent party in all this and didn’t do anything wrong.
@Felton10 @shahnm @zhicks1987 [Redacted]
P.S. - No need to worry if I’d so-call “dox” you; that’s something only the Demonrats are capable of!!
[Redacted]
{Ahem}
@IndifferentDude @shahnm @zhicks1987 How easy it was to find me is besides the point. The fact that you took even a few seconds to do it and then posted it as if you were going to reveal my identity says more than enough so everyone knows what type of person you are.
@Felton10 @shahnm @zhicks1987 Whatever. Don’t you have a pending “Letter to the Editor” you need to finish? Better hurry so you can add it to your collection and boost your ego. Letter #82!! GO FOR IT!!
@IndifferentDude @shahnm @zhicks1987 Actually they only publish one per person every 30 days, but what I won’t be doing is wasting my time trying to determine the identity of someone on meh so I can threaten to expose them like you did.
Wait you said only Democrats do that-maybe you are closet Democrat?
@Felton10 Don’t know why you’re so fixated on being “exposed”; got something to hide?? I’d like proof, if you have any, where I ever threatened to expose you?? I only looked you up as I was curious to see if I could find a pic of the person who I was conversing about political differences with. Thankfully, no images were found (since I have a weak stomach
),[Redacted]. Nothing that interested me in the least!
{TC edit}
@Felton10 @IndifferentDude @shahnm @zhicks1987
Pepperidge Farms remembers…
@Felton10 @shahnm @Thumperchick @zhicks1987 AWESOME!!
Maybe the resident bot will agree as well.
Kudos for doing such a wonderful job as an impartial and unbiased moderator. You’re the best! 
POPSOCKETS! COURT DOCKETS! FOLK ROCK HITS! AWESOME!
@IndifferentDude You are really full of it aren’t you. You could have looked me up and kept it to yourself except you felt it necessary to post my initials in a way way that indicated you might expose me. You may have pulled the wool over @Thumperchick eyes but as I said if she had any guts she would have banned you when you did it the second time for my wife’s cousin.
As to your assertion that I have something to hide, everyone knows more about me here than most. And for several years I have offered my expertise in helping others with any tax questions. More than you have contributed with your insults and worthless comments. How about telling us a little about yourself and why you are worth anything to anyone. Doubt you can.
@Felton10 @Thumperchick Thanks my friend! Have a great day.
Interesting times. Tim Walz and Beto O’Rourke threw a Town Hall out in deep-red Fort Bend County (Texas) last night. We went. I was nervous about being there, but even though at least half of those in attendance had voted Trump, almost none expressed even one shred of support for anything that the Administration is presently doing. Of course, the mere fact that it was Walz and Beto self-selected for folks who were unhappy with the status quo, but the fact that so many were repentant red-hats is encouraging.
@werehatrack You do know that these dem-run ops are stocked with (paid) democrat plants pretending to be Trump-regretting Republican voters, right? This is one of the sillier of the left’s current plays. It apparently does work to fool Democrats, but what is the net goal of doing that?
@Felton10
I thought you would appreciate this one…
@shahnm I do thanks.
Science lesson for all the Libturds on here.
Prove me wrong!! 
{Transphobic nonsense}
{TC edit}
Thank you, TC.
It is with a certain amount of amusement that I note that the first of the rats to announce their abandonment of the stinking ship is a certain suit-allergic billionaire. The exact date hasn’t been announced, but I suspect it’s going to be prior to the “130 days” that he has stated.
@werehatrack
We have other billionaires…
https://slaynews.com/news/pro-trump-billionaire-reid-rasner-47b-bid-buy-tiktok-american-people/