For $24 it’s not terrible. I had these from a sub box I used to get and they’re just okay. Retail is super inflated for them IMO. In fact I’d say be careful as the handle got too hot and started to melt on one. They lose their nonstick pretty quickly as well. Granted as a former cook, I typically only use med/high heat and that always buggers nonstick.
@sillyheathen I bought a similar set from Amazon. Not only did the plastic handles melt, they gave off a noxious smell that gave me breathing issues for a couple of days. I tried to leave a cautionary review, but the listing for the pans had vanished. There wasnt even a pic or a link left in my purchase history.
@sillyheathen Gastrolux. My nonstick pans from them have lasted through years of high heat with barely any change to the non-stickiness. I’ll never buy another brand when it comes to nonstick, honestly
@jinksb appreciate this; I have shitty breathing since a covid infection last year, this would wreck me. passed out in a well ventilated room using bleach a couple of months back. it’s been almost two years
I bought a similar set from Amazon. Not only did the plastic handles melt, they gave off a noxious smell that gave me breathing issues for a couple of days. I tried to leave a cautionary review, but the listing for the pans had vanished.
Dare I suspect that a trail of breadcrumbs has made itself apparent…
@JinksB@sillyheathen Looking around, I’m pretty sure yours were a mee-too knockoff rather than this exact brand. There are enough places selling this brand, including Amazon (still), that it would be hard to hide that. So you probably got ripped off with a lookalike that got AmaZapped before you had a chance to send up a signal flare. Sucks that they didn’t leave it in your history, though; you should have been given a refund.
@JinksB@sunshineparadox
I don’t think I knew that you used to be a chef @sillyheathen, so cool!
I WAS going to get these until reading these last few comments! Thanks for saving me!
@JinksB@werehatrack mine was from the company itself so it definitely wasn’t a knock off. Maybe JinksB’s was? It was in a subscription box for a large company and definitely came from the horse’s mouth for lack of a better term.
@JinksB@Lynnerizer@sunshineparadox oh yes! I jacked it in when I got pregnant with our first born. We were actually supposed to move cross country and open a restaurant with my old executive chef in Durham. There were some complications with the opening so we wound up staying in Portland. I really want to get back in the kitchen properly once the kids are a bit older. I still cook like I am though.
@JinksB@sillyheathen Re the melting handles, yeah, anybody on grill or burner-top duty is going to habitually run at a higher setting than most, and any kind of plastic that provides a “soft grip” DOES NOT belong within 2" of the pan’s edge, not even silicone. Prefereably more like four inches. This handle design is Made Of Fail for you and them.
@JinksB@Lynnerizer@sunshineparadox yes! The owners renovated the old fire house. We were supposed to do a New American farm to table restaurant there but they had issues with the city council. It wound up being a hot mess and I don’t think it ever actually came to fruition. I couldn’t risk moving there pregnant with no health care.
@sillyheathen Yeah, that does look a bit on the minimum spec engineering side for the induction plate. There are good materials that are both highly magnetic and rust free. And using one of those is the right choice. This looks like they tried to use a plated-one-side-only induction insert and hope it would never rust in the interface. And if they’d done a good enough job of bonding the aluminum to it, there’s a good chance it would have worked. But it does not appear that that is the case. And it also does not appear that it was a tight enough fit to keep frying over spill from getting on the bottom, infiltrating the gap, and accelerating the deterioration while staining the shit out of everything.
Not necessarily useless in the end, but just not as good as it could have been, either. Hence, probably part of the reason why they’re here on Meh.
@JinksB@Lynnerizer@sillyheathen@werehatrack This is so funny. I went to the high school that was next to Gregson a little ways back. We could hear those crashes from the furthest building. It was impossible to keep us focused in class after that.
But that really is a shame. Durham has a good organic, local food scene and there’s a huge list of places I’d recommend to someone out of town looking for something special. But I believe it about the city permits and the other administrative crap. The city is SLOW in other areas too, and it’s got a lot of red tape.
Although I was pregnant and insured in Raleigh, and that was actually so awful, it might have been better to have none at all. At least I wouldn’t have been paying to be ignored. And I was only really pushed them when I was worried about the baby, not just myself.
the cool thing about these pans is that they are imbued with the soul of an executed chef, and will cook meals for you on their own. sometimes you get a phantom chef that is malicious and will try to attack you or may poison your food, but most are just happy to have something to do.
@omally IIANM, that was a short-run boutique-level series that is no longer being attempted. These are apparently being imbued with fragments of the souls of deceased Chinese who were assumed to know how to cook more than congee, and the results can vary… a lot. (“Why is it that every time I grab this pan, I want to season everything with soy sauce from a bottle whose label I can’t even read?”)
I’m disappointed that I’m not getting these. If there weren’t listed issues I’m not sure I could handle, another reason to make my house unbearable colorful and chaotic is always welcome.
@pixelated@sunshineparadox i was about to make the purchase but i saw negative reviews about losing the non-stick within months which confused me because i thought ceramic wouldn’t do that, the pan warps, the handles get loose and"rusty", a bunch of photos show the flaws. I wonder if it will work better with a glass top electric stove.
@irenegade@pixelated@sunshineparadox My personal experience with ceramic is that as long as you don’t run it through the dishwasher, and don’t use really super aggressive grease stripper detergents, they hold up amazingly well. I ruined the coating on a couple of the copper ceramic ones by running them through the dishwasher. It just never recovers to the same level of non-stick after that. So, now, ceramic gets hand washed with a mild dishwashing detergent, and given a soak first if there’s stuff that is acting sticky. And I still don’t use metal utensils in them, because I don’t want them to get scratched. I bought a large one like this at Aldi 2 years ago for 15 bucks, and it is still going strong. It’s one of my SOs three favorite pans.
@pixelated@sunshineparadox@werehatrack When in doubt, always punt!
Just saw that the bottom has edges so no glass top ranges, and someone posted that it will not work for induction cook tops. Along with these losing their non-stick effectiveness, chipping, handle issues, and warping - this is a hard pass for me. Next!
@jhclouse From Merriam Webster: “Another think coming is the older of the two, dating in use to the mid-19th century, and originated in British English. Another thing coming appears to have come about in American English several decades later, probably as a result of confusion regarding the original phrase. Another thing is the more recent turn of phrase and now is more common, though it is frequently criticized.” So… this is an American website/company, so maybe YOU have another “think” coming.
@GrandmaLyn@jhclouse Harrump! Balderdash! Being an absolutely incorrigible literalism pedant, I am of the firm conviction that the statement “another thing coming” implies the transfer of goods and a promise of such delivery, and I believe that the (mis)users of it, and those who are confused by the original, are the ones who have another think coming.
@die13lda@GrandmaLyn@werehatrack Well, as the Merriam-Webster article mentioned, they’re no strangers to “breaking the law.” Do you really expect them to comply with some old fashioned view of the English language?
@die13lda@GrandmaLyn@jhclouse Only up until they lose a lawsuit due to a lawyer successfully asserting that “another thing coming” was a valid and binding contract.
@die13lda@GrandmaLyn@werehatrack Absolutely. The sentence “I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse” changes dramatically without punctuation and capitalization.
@die13lda@GrandmaLyn@jhclouse “If you expected more than gruel, you have another thing coming!”
“Good, what is it?”
“What do you mean, what is it?”
“The thing that I have coming. And do not muck about and threaten to lay about me with your stick with a nob on the end, for that shall get you brought to the attention of the local constabulary forthwith! Now, I ask again, what is the clearly implied but unidentified additional foodstuff that your statement has obliged you to produce?”
@mrdancer The photo of the bottom of one of them provided by another user shows that they do have the induction insert. So yes, they will work on an induction stove. In fact, they may be best suited to induction, because that tends to put less convection heat load on the handle, which does have issues with not being adequately heat resistant.
@mediocrebot@OnionSoup You cook the pan. Once it gets hot, it’s done. Just season to taste and you’re getting all the minerals your body needs—in one sitting.
@OnionSoup Nope on that being a line cook. Everything in the image is wrong. Every single thing. Wrong pan, wrong cooktop, more wrong past that.
Eggs good. Eggs excellent. Eggs and bacon and hashbrowns fried in lotsabutter with chopped onion and some garlic salt … is making me hungry. And there are Yukon Golds in the kitchen.
I got one of these pans in a FabFitFun box awhile ago. The good: very nonstick; nice color; love the insulated handle. The not-so-good: it’s basically Blue Diamond—coating chipped off the rim after a few uses. Very meh.
Okay, having looked at everything I could find in the reviews in several places, plus whatever good my eye as an engineering-oriented user may be worth, here’s what I will toss in.
No image I could find for any part of this product line shows the pans’ bottoms. I can’t address the concerns about induction capability, but I also did not find loud screams about lack of that capability either. “Aluminum body” speaks to the pan’s ability to disperse heat fast and evenly; and an induction-capable receiver disc is most likely embedded in the bottom, but they probably think that displaying this would simply confuse the droobs. I think they’re wrong, but I consider the concern level to be low.
Looking at the few photos I could find of reported incidents of the handle “melting” and/or falling off, what I saw was that the handle seems to come loose on a certain number of these, but the screw is routinely missing from the image. If the handle had actually melted loose, the presentation would have been different. I see users who have insufficient grasp of the concept of “screwdriver”. (I have been watching the deterioration of this for my entire life, and I may rant elsewhere.)
Chipping: Probably valid. May or may not be controllable via careful handling in a typical kitchen. I will note that the same maker also has produced pans for higher-end outlets, and those have a machined upper surface on the rim, eliminating the most common chipping point. These lack that. (“Cheaper”)
Coating stinks/discolors. Sigh. Okay, I wasn’t there watching them do it, but yanno, I have to wonder if this is a case of “My old cast iron pan could take that much heat”, particularly on a gas stovetop. So YMMV, it is almost always possible to torch a decorative exterior coating, but it’s kind of important for the user to know how to not make that happen. Oh, and staining of ceramic interior coatings is, in my very direct experience, an indication of the pan’s having been run through the dishwasher before the stain happened. Just DON’T Do That, OK?
Dishwasher-safe: A flat lie. Don’t go there. Someone, somewhere, may be inhabiting the Philosopher’s Kitchen in which everything can go through the dishwasher and emerge spotless and restored to like-new condition. I know I don’t, though I get away with more than a lot of people. But even for, me this falls under Fuggeddaboudit.
Expanding on the “Handles melting” issue, Our user [edited]@JinksB reported a genuine incident of that taking place - with a similar product. I have to think that one was a knock-off or a noob-manufacture chabaduo fiasco, something which has happily been decreasing in frequency a bit since the 'Zon got better about zapping things that get serious-wrong reviews. But still the fact that this kind of thing can still be out there is a real concern, and I’m not a fan of handles with plastic closer to 2" from the edge of the pan because it gets really easy for that to get too hot, and even the old Bakelite can get problematic quickly when that happens. Conclusion: Weigh for yourself and decide.
Okay. Something is wrong with meh shipping. These arrived YESTERDAY
Opened them up and used them last night to fry some eggs. Wife tried a test with absolutely no fats added. They did not stick to the pan a bit. So far I’m pretty impressed. Seem well constructed, but not overly heavy. Nice big wide handles make it easy to use them.
Thanks meh…
Specs
Product: Phantom Chef 2-Piece Grove Collection Nonstick Pan Set
Model: PC-013G
Condition: New
What’s Included?
Price Comparison
$55.97-$56.97 at Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Oct 23 - Wednesday, Oct 25
Why not an 8"x11" pan?
@yakkoTDI Are you thinking Oval, Rectangle, or Other?
@yakkoTDI Because it would only have a 3" handle, duh.
@yakkoTDI Here ya go… You just have to pay more for it & you only get one.
@werehatrack
I have been told a 3" handle is more than enough.
@yakkoTDI So you can use a standard piece of paper as a grease guard?
@yakkoTDI You have been lied to.
@werehatrack @yakkoTDI It is for me, but my partners may disagree.
@werehatrack @yakkoTDI
Only if you know how to use it!
@Lynnerizer @yakkoTDI Somehow, I knew where this was gonna dive down, and y’all managed to go there with style for once.
/showme a phantom pan
Ew
I knew I needed more green or gray specks in my life. Meh…I’ll stick to cast iron.
Glen is back - sort of. I’m not sure whether @shahnm will approve.
@Kyeh Somebody’s gonna exclaim, “They fried Glen!” any minute now…
@ircon96 @Kyeh Oh you think you know me sooo well…
@ircon96 @Kyeh @shahnm And you know that if you don’t, somebody else will…
@ircon96 @Kyeh @werehatrack It’s the cross I bear unfortunately, having as many followers as I do…
@ircon96 @Kyeh @shahnm
@ircon96 @shahnm @werehatrack
You’re being followed by a cross-eyed bear?
@ircon96 @Kyeh @werehatrack Aren’t we all? Aren’t we all…?
@ircon96 @Kyeh @shahnm Shhh! You mustn’t let it know that you can see it!
@ircon96 @Kyeh @werehatrack Wait!! Yours isn’t a metaphorical cross-eyed bear?!?
@ircon96 @shahnm @werehatrack Mine is named Gladly, and he’s visible only to me, like Harvey the Rabbit.
Mehtal Tear Sordid: The Phantom Pan
OH MY GOD WE NOW KNOW WHAT THEY DID WITH GLEN AND HE WAS PROBABLY DELICIOUS!!!
@shahnm And the Carrollton Wu is appeased for another fortnite. Plano is safe - for a while.
And what would that “thing” be? Something in the next IRK?
These make really shitty margaritas.
For $24 it’s not terrible. I had these from a sub box I used to get and they’re just okay. Retail is super inflated for them IMO. In fact I’d say be careful as the handle got too hot and started to melt on one. They lose their nonstick pretty quickly as well. Granted as a former cook, I typically only use med/high heat and that always buggers nonstick.
@sillyheathen Isn’t the handle wood? How can it get too hot?
@cheapbastard
Handle is actually plastic according to reviews.
Has a fake wood finish.
@cheapbastard negative. It’s a decorative effect. It’s a weird slightly soft plastic handle.
@sillyheathen I bought a similar set from Amazon. Not only did the plastic handles melt, they gave off a noxious smell that gave me breathing issues for a couple of days. I tried to leave a cautionary review, but the listing for the pans had vanished. There wasnt even a pic or a link left in my purchase history.
@sillyheathen Gastrolux. My nonstick pans from them have lasted through years of high heat with barely any change to the non-stickiness. I’ll never buy another brand when it comes to nonstick, honestly
@jinksb appreciate this; I have shitty breathing since a covid infection last year, this would wreck me. passed out in a well ventilated room using bleach a couple of months back. it’s been almost two years
@JinksB @sillyheathen
Dare I suspect that a trail of breadcrumbs has made itself apparent…
@JinksB @sillyheathen Looking around, I’m pretty sure yours were a mee-too knockoff rather than this exact brand. There are enough places selling this brand, including Amazon (still), that it would be hard to hide that. So you probably got ripped off with a lookalike that got AmaZapped before you had a chance to send up a signal flare. Sucks that they didn’t leave it in your history, though; you should have been given a refund.
@sillyheathen In fact, I’ll go farther. That kind of incident merits a CPSC report.
@JinksB @sunshineparadox
I don’t think I knew that you used to be a chef @sillyheathen, so cool!
I WAS going to get these until reading these last few comments! Thanks for saving me!
@JinksB @werehatrack mine was from the company itself so it definitely wasn’t a knock off. Maybe JinksB’s was? It was in a subscription box for a large company and definitely came from the horse’s mouth for lack of a better term.
@JinksB @Lynnerizer @sunshineparadox oh yes! I jacked it in when I got pregnant with our first born. We were actually supposed to move cross country and open a restaurant with my old executive chef in Durham. There were some complications with the opening so we wound up staying in Portland. I really want to get back in the kitchen properly once the kids are a bit older. I still cook like I am though.
@JinksB @Lynnerizer @sillyheathen durham, NC? Small world. I was raised there
@JinksB @Lynnerizer @sillyheathen @sunshineparadox Nostalgia time.
https://11foot8.com/
@JinksB @sillyheathen Re the melting handles, yeah, anybody on grill or burner-top duty is going to habitually run at a higher setting than most, and any kind of plastic that provides a “soft grip” DOES NOT belong within 2" of the pan’s edge, not even silicone. Prefereably more like four inches. This handle design is Made Of Fail for you and them.
@JinksB @Lynnerizer @sunshineparadox yes! The owners renovated the old fire house. We were supposed to do a New American farm to table restaurant there but they had issues with the city council. It wound up being a hot mess and I don’t think it ever actually came to fruition. I couldn’t risk moving there pregnant with no health care.
@JinksB @Lynnerizer @sunshineparadox
Just for reference of what happened to the small pan.
@sillyheathen Yeah, that does look a bit on the minimum spec engineering side for the induction plate. There are good materials that are both highly magnetic and rust free. And using one of those is the right choice. This looks like they tried to use a plated-one-side-only induction insert and hope it would never rust in the interface. And if they’d done a good enough job of bonding the aluminum to it, there’s a good chance it would have worked. But it does not appear that that is the case. And it also does not appear that it was a tight enough fit to keep frying over spill from getting on the bottom, infiltrating the gap, and accelerating the deterioration while staining the shit out of everything.
Not necessarily useless in the end, but just not as good as it could have been, either. Hence, probably part of the reason why they’re here on Meh.
@JinksB @Lynnerizer @sillyheathen @werehatrack This is so funny. I went to the high school that was next to Gregson a little ways back. We could hear those crashes from the furthest building. It was impossible to keep us focused in class after that.
But that really is a shame. Durham has a good organic, local food scene and there’s a huge list of places I’d recommend to someone out of town looking for something special. But I believe it about the city permits and the other administrative crap. The city is SLOW in other areas too, and it’s got a lot of red tape.
Although I was pregnant and insured in Raleigh, and that was actually so awful, it might have been better to have none at all. At least I wouldn’t have been paying to be ignored. And I was only really pushed them when I was worried about the baby, not just myself.
Some ugly ass pans.
The small would have to be named Wendy and the larger Peter.
I can use these I. Place of my good cook wear for daily small stuff. Save the wear and tear for these pretty pans.
Can you use these to make ghoulash?
@ergomeh
@ergomeh Well yeah, if you leave ghoul cooking too long. The good news is that the ash doesn’t stick.
@ergomeh @sligett But you may have a problem with the handles melting, so do it outdoors.
“Eating Raoul: The Halloween Edition”.
the cool thing about these pans is that they are imbued with the soul of an executed chef, and will cook meals for you on their own. sometimes you get a phantom chef that is malicious and will try to attack you or may poison your food, but most are just happy to have something to do.
@omally IIANM, that was a short-run boutique-level series that is no longer being attempted. These are apparently being imbued with fragments of the souls of deceased Chinese who were assumed to know how to cook more than congee, and the results can vary… a lot. (“Why is it that every time I grab this pan, I want to season everything with soy sauce from a bottle whose label I can’t even read?”)
These pans are hot!
@tweezak
Beat me to it!
I’m disappointed that I’m not getting these. If there weren’t listed issues I’m not sure I could handle, another reason to make my house unbearable colorful and chaotic is always welcome.
@sunshineparadox Listed issues? I’ve only seen a couple of so-called issues regarding the hot handles.
@pixelated @sunshineparadox i was about to make the purchase but i saw negative reviews about losing the non-stick within months which confused me because i thought ceramic wouldn’t do that, the pan warps, the handles get loose and"rusty", a bunch of photos show the flaws. I wonder if it will work better with a glass top electric stove.
@irenegade @pixelated @sunshineparadox My personal experience with ceramic is that as long as you don’t run it through the dishwasher, and don’t use really super aggressive grease stripper detergents, they hold up amazingly well. I ruined the coating on a couple of the copper ceramic ones by running them through the dishwasher. It just never recovers to the same level of non-stick after that. So, now, ceramic gets hand washed with a mild dishwashing detergent, and given a soak first if there’s stuff that is acting sticky. And I still don’t use metal utensils in them, because I don’t want them to get scratched. I bought a large one like this at Aldi 2 years ago for 15 bucks, and it is still going strong. It’s one of my SOs three favorite pans.
@irenegade @pixelated @werehatrack these are both useful. I ended up just punting it to my SO though who does most of dinner cooking.
@pixelated @sunshineparadox @werehatrack When in doubt, always punt!
Just saw that the bottom has edges so no glass top ranges, and someone posted that it will not work for induction cook tops. Along with these losing their non-stick effectiveness, chipping, handle issues, and warping - this is a hard pass for me. Next!
It’s “you’ve got another think coming.” Not “thing.”
@jhclouse From Merriam Webster: “Another think coming is the older of the two, dating in use to the mid-19th century, and originated in British English. Another thing coming appears to have come about in American English several decades later, probably as a result of confusion regarding the original phrase. Another thing is the more recent turn of phrase and now is more common, though it is frequently criticized.” So… this is an American website/company, so maybe YOU have another “think” coming.
@GrandmaLyn @jhclouse Harrump! Balderdash! Being an absolutely incorrigible literalism pedant, I am of the firm conviction that the statement “another thing coming” implies the transfer of goods and a promise of such delivery, and I believe that the (mis)users of it, and those who are confused by the original, are the ones who have another think coming.
@GrandmaLyn @jhclouse @werehatrack Judas Priest would disagree.
@die13lda @GrandmaLyn @werehatrack Well, as the Merriam-Webster article mentioned, they’re no strangers to “breaking the law.” Do you really expect them to comply with some old fashioned view of the English language?
@die13lda @GrandmaLyn @jhclouse Only up until they lose a lawsuit due to a lawyer successfully asserting that “another thing coming” was a valid and binding contract.
Language is important. So is punctuation.
@die13lda @GrandmaLyn @werehatrack Absolutely. The sentence “I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse” changes dramatically without punctuation and capitalization.
@die13lda @GrandmaLyn @jhclouse “If you expected more than gruel, you have another thing coming!”
“Good, what is it?”
“What do you mean, what is it?”
“The thing that I have coming. And do not muck about and threaten to lay about me with your stick with a nob on the end, for that shall get you brought to the attention of the local constabulary forthwith! Now, I ask again, what is the clearly implied but unidentified additional foodstuff that your statement has obliged you to produce?”
Are these really compatible with induction? Will magnets stick to them?
I got a set of Carote pots/pans last year, and very happy with those. Wish Meh would have a deal on them…
@mrdancer The photo of the bottom of one of them provided by another user shows that they do have the induction insert. So yes, they will work on an induction stove. In fact, they may be best suited to induction, because that tends to put less convection heat load on the handle, which does have issues with not being adequately heat resistant.
They have an aluminum body. So no induction compatibility. I wish.
@Wizrd They can have an aluminum body with an induction-capable insert molded into the bottom, but the bottoms of the pans are not shown.
@Wizrd and we now have a photo of the bottom of one from another user, and it definitely has the induction insert in it.
These pans are a little small but I still bit. Wife likes blue, I’ll cook her something in a blue pan.
/showme what I can cook in a very tiny pan.
@mediocrebot I guess I can’t cook anything.
@mediocrebot @OnionSoup You cook the pan. Once it gets hot, it’s done. Just season to taste and you’re getting all the minerals your body needs—in one sitting.
@jhclouse @mediocrebot @OnionSoup Better if you use it for pan soup.
/showme a chef cooking something weird in a small pan
@mediocrebot that pan is not small!
Also, it has two handles. I want a two handles pan.
Meh… Here’s my money… Sell me a two handled pan.
/showme A line cook frying an egg in a tiny pan
Mmmmm, nope. Lotsa nope. Rope-a-nope, dope.
@werehatrack what’s the nope? Don’t like eggs?
I’d probably use the smaller of the two for precisely that… Eggs, when it’s just me eating. The larger of the two is probably big enough for crepes.
@OnionSoup Nope on that being a line cook. Everything in the image is wrong. Every single thing. Wrong pan, wrong cooktop, more wrong past that.
Eggs good. Eggs excellent. Eggs and bacon and hashbrowns fried in lotsabutter with chopped onion and some garlic salt … is making me hungry. And there are Yukon Golds in the kitchen.
I got one of these pans in a FabFitFun box awhile ago. The good: very nonstick; nice color; love the insulated handle. The not-so-good: it’s basically Blue Diamond—coating chipped off the rim after a few uses. Very meh.
Okay, having looked at everything I could find in the reviews in several places, plus whatever good my eye as an engineering-oriented user may be worth, here’s what I will toss in.
No image I could find for any part of this product line shows the pans’ bottoms. I can’t address the concerns about induction capability, but I also did not find loud screams about lack of that capability either. “Aluminum body” speaks to the pan’s ability to disperse heat fast and evenly; and an induction-capable receiver disc is most likely embedded in the bottom, but they probably think that displaying this would simply confuse the droobs. I think they’re wrong, but I consider the concern level to be low.
Looking at the few photos I could find of reported incidents of the handle “melting” and/or falling off, what I saw was that the handle seems to come loose on a certain number of these, but the screw is routinely missing from the image. If the handle had actually melted loose, the presentation would have been different. I see users who have insufficient grasp of the concept of “screwdriver”. (I have been watching the deterioration of this for my entire life, and I may rant elsewhere.)
Chipping: Probably valid. May or may not be controllable via careful handling in a typical kitchen. I will note that the same maker also has produced pans for higher-end outlets, and those have a machined upper surface on the rim, eliminating the most common chipping point. These lack that. (“Cheaper”)
Coating stinks/discolors. Sigh. Okay, I wasn’t there watching them do it, but yanno, I have to wonder if this is a case of “My old cast iron pan could take that much heat”, particularly on a gas stovetop. So YMMV, it is almost always possible to torch a decorative exterior coating, but it’s kind of important for the user to know how to not make that happen. Oh, and staining of ceramic interior coatings is, in my very direct experience, an indication of the pan’s having been run through the dishwasher before the stain happened. Just DON’T Do That, OK?
Dishwasher-safe: A flat lie. Don’t go there. Someone, somewhere, may be inhabiting the Philosopher’s Kitchen in which everything can go through the dishwasher and emerge spotless and restored to like-new condition. I know I don’t, though I get away with more than a lot of people. But even for, me this falls under Fuggeddaboudit.
Expanding on the “Handles melting” issue, Our user [edited]@JinksB reported a genuine incident of that taking place - with a similar product. I have to think that one was a knock-off or a noob-manufacture chabaduo fiasco, something which has happily been decreasing in frequency a bit since the 'Zon got better about zapping things that get serious-wrong reviews. But still the fact that this kind of thing can still be out there is a real concern, and I’m not a fan of handles with plastic closer to 2" from the edge of the pan because it gets really easy for that to get too hot, and even the old Bakelite can get problematic quickly when that happens. Conclusion: Weigh for yourself and decide.
WTH why not?
/giphy mutinous-mischievous-candy
bunch of weird ones… gonna roll the dice and leave whatever comes up next…
@chienfou
Got 'em, like 'em!
/giphy corrupt-beastly-fly
Oof ok.
/giphy glowing-grimy-possession
Okay. Something is wrong with meh shipping. These arrived YESTERDAY
Opened them up and used them last night to fry some eggs. Wife tried a test with absolutely no fats added. They did not stick to the pan a bit. So far I’m pretty impressed. Seem well constructed, but not overly heavy. Nice big wide handles make it easy to use them.
Thanks meh…
Lids, would have been nice, or at least for the larger one.