@cengland0 For 5000K light to look natural, it needs to be really bright. These lamps are relatively dim suited to accent lighting, so 2350K might look the most natural.
@satyenshah I disagree about the 2350K looking more natural. It looks very unnatural to me. I think some people prefer that temperature because it's closer to the incandescent bulbs of the past.
@cengland0 The warm glow is reminiscent of the light from candles, lamps, and even an open fire. It stirs something deep inside us that is different from the bright daylight sun. Time to relax, eat, prepare to sleep. And the fire is what kept the darkness, and the dangers that lurked there at bay... Having bright white lights in your face well into the evening can make it more difficult to relax, fall asleep, and get good sleep... Thats why hopefully someday the controlled spectrum bulbs that can change throughout the day (Philips Hue f.ex) will become standard and relatively inexpensive
@cengland0 I use 4000K for common areas and offices at work, and 3500K for more intimate conference rooms. At home, 4000K goes in the kitchen and warmer goes in the living rooms and bedrooms. But even more important than color temperature is color rendering. These bulbs at 83 CRI aren't that great. Cree makes a "True White" series that is available in 90+ CRI, which is excellent.
Those have hardly any use as they are so low watts. I like bright ones like 100 watts plus 3 way bulbs. Maybe a 50-60 in a lamp that has like 3 bulbs. Too bad. Price is decent.
@Kidsandliz Yeah, they might be a little dim... I recently got a 120W replacement LED for my kitchen table and its awesome! Atleast at this price im sure to find some use for them... If just in the basement or attic.
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Most states have programs where they instant rebate bulbs right at Home Depot or Lowes. I can get nice brand name LED bulbs all day long for $3-$5 each. I switched my entire house over about a year back and it's amazing how much I'm actually saving on my electric bill. I thought it would be a minimal savings but it's literally $50-$100 each month saved. I have some rooms with 9+ recessed lights running many hours a day though so I'm lit up like a darn torch over here.
Not sure about this specific bulb, but CREE bulbs are def top notch.
@medz Word. $50-150 for 2400sq ft. Including water, wastewater, sewer and trash/recycling in Texas heat. Oh, and I have 2 LED's and a set of Phillips Hue bulbs, plus numerous CFLs and some incandescents left. As in left I mean in lights used for hours on a daily basis.
@elangomatt Bought a two-pack of 60W equivalent LED bulbs from Big Lots for $8. They're nice, but when they were scanned at purchase, the computer said they weren't to be sold in my state (WA), so the single 2-pack I bought to test was the only one they sold. They had to send 'em all back and are waiting on ones that weren't mistakenly shipped to the store. I just hope they'll have more, and at that price...
@KDemo No clue. I'm not even sure if there are requirements. Seemed more like the company just fudged up and possibly something that was supposed to be sent to another state ended up there, causing logistical/record keeping issues. At least that's my thought. The manager wasn't entirely sure either, just that they were sent something that wasn't meant for them.
@Talidan IKEA had 2 packs of 40w LEDs for $6 and some change...best deal by far that I've found in Texas or on Amazon. Not super bright but worth the cost savings for lamps and bathroom lighting.
@pjoeltyler That means your socket supports a 60 watt bulb maximum. Since the maximum bulb you can buy from meh today is 11 watts, no problem using either.
these seem kinda inefficient. I just bought a bunch of 9.6 watt bulbs, and they are brighter than the 60 watt bulbs they replaced. I would expect 11 watt led bulbs to be closer to 75 watt equivilent. These must be left over last generation bulbs. Just a guess.
@cengland0 the point is that i have a bunch of 9.6 watt bulbs that are brighter than these 11 watt bulbs. 810 lumens to be specefic. these are 554 @ 11 watts.
@Headly 50 watts per lumen is pretty piss poor. these bulbs don't compare to modern cree's at ALL. They might be cree components, but the similarity with the 90+ lumen per watt cree bulbs at home depot ends at the name.
@Headly at less than 60 lumens per watt, these are terribly inefficient compared to higher end LEDs on the market. I'm replacing fluorescent fixtures at work with LED fixtures that are 100-110 lumens per watt. That didn't stop me from buying six of the flood lights, though.
@Headly I like the Mk7 platform, but I don't fit in it so well. 6'4" and I find that the lower roofline where it meets the windshield puts the rear view mirror right in my field of view, blocking a significant portion of the road in front of me.
@alose the key with LED over CFL is longevity, they should outlast a cfl by a couple decades... of course these say 90day warranty... so.... (also no mercury in led and more durable).
@daveJay When i was in high school we played with mercury In science class. And I'm not that old. Now you're supposed to evacuate for teeny tiny amounts of it?
@daveJay yeah, that's what annoyed me back when the government had to deal with this threat of incandescents invading our homes for over 100 years and we have to liberate us from such atrocities and evil doers. But you're not supposed to use CFLS where it is only on momentarily (like bathrooms), enclosed areas (chandeliers outside), cold weather (again outside, at least for me), high vibration (garage door, ceiling fans). All that said I've ONLY had a CFL stop working on a light I have outside for 12 hours a night (because apparently why bother lighting up the side with all the garages that people enter and exit constantly). Most of my bulbs are those hue lights, because it's SOOO addicting
@daveJay Do not over react if a compact fluorescent bulb breaks. Mercury is bad for you, but there isn't much mercury in a bulb. Don't snort the dust, don't feed it to your children. Coal powered electrical plants are still the major source of mercury in the environment.
Shoot. I bought four of these. But I wrongly assumed they were 2700k. 3000k is far too white for my taste. I much prefer the warm natural looking glow of 2700k. At 2700 you can't tell the LED apart from an incandescent. 3000k feels way too white, it feels artificial.
@jsh139 bought my first house last year and replaced all lights with led's, my bill is lower than when I rented a small apartment that was half the size of the house. I credit the one light that the kids leave on constantly no matter what time of day or night....
This is interesting, @Snapster - re-searching order phrase images returns 3 other images from this forum page in the top 10 - Otherwise unrelated to the phrase. Of course, they wouldn't appear on the original search, but you're changing the whole image paradigm here. Someone's gonna wonder what a snowbound fire hydrant has to do with a fabulous snail.
Just wanted to add in a bath/bed/kitchen remodel last year I paid $180 for 20 of these. They looked/worked awesome and this is a good deal.( amazing how much they went down in 1 years time )
@strobot I had that same problem.. then I looked closely at the ceiling fans and noticed they used the next size down from the "standard US" style. (forgot the NEMA #'s) Wish I would considered that when I bought the ceiling fans. It ended up costing me almost twice as much (two years ago) to replace the incandescents. On the bright side (he he) the CFL's haven't burned out yet. It seemed like I was replacing the incandescents in those fans every couple of months so you are lucky your fans take these.
@RFOneWatt You can get adapters for the intermediate sockets that allow the smaller candelabra base bulbs to be used (that is what we did). And you can get CFL and LED bulbs in candelabra base easily
In for 6 40W bulbs. I have 4 Cree bulbs in my dining room. Paid like $15 or $20 I believe. Plenty bright. I thought 40W equivalent wouldn't be bright enough, but I was wrong. Pretty much got the bulbs because I have vaulted ceilings and I'm too lazy to change those bulbs with any frequency.
so i went into the basement to check my brothers old led bulbs(he kept the boxes and receipt in case he needs to use the "5" year warranty on the bulbs) (they are 800 lumens) when i came out of the basement to buy.... the $3 40w equals sold OUT
I've seen color temperature as low as 5000K considered to be "daylight," but I don't think 2939K should ever be called daylight. Normally, 5500K is what "daylight" suggests.
I'm surprised you guys didn't market these like the "dumb TVs" from a while back. Because that's kinda what these are - just lights, no Wi-Fi, no fancy custom colors, no turning them on and off from your phone (or watch).
About three years ago, we ran across a hardware store that was going out of business, and they had 65 and 100W CFL replacements for 50c-$1/each. We bought a case of each. (I think there were 36 in the 65w replacement and 24 in the 100w replacement) When we moved into our new place, we immediately put CFLs in all the sockets and lamps.
Also, the electric company came by and gave us a bunch of free CFL spotlight bulbs this year, which are now in the spotlight sockets, and so I took the regular CFLs out and put them back in the boxes. So, I've got 40 new bulbs and 4 slightly used ones.
Sure, I might like the LED bulbs more, but I've got enough CFLs to last through either 2 or 3 more moves, or the rest of my life, whichever comes first. (assuming that i don't pull out the in-use ones)
@eblade I bought a bunch of CFL's before LED lights became more affordable too. I had to decide if it was better to upgrade the CFL to LED and take a hit on the initial cost to try saving money in the long term. The deciding factor wasn't about cost. Once I put in my first set of LEDs and they became maximum brightness when I first turned it on, I was sold.
I still have a couple CFL bulbs around the house and it still surprises me how long it takes to get to full brightness after you turn them on. I haven't timed it but it feels like 10 minutes.
@cengland0 Different brands of CFLs react differently. The 5/$1 ones I got (Sunrise brand) take nearly 2 minutes to get to full brightness; the 8/$1 ones (Broada) take about 10 seconds. The quick starting ones have experienced shorter life, though.
FWIW, some LEDs do have a delay on turning on, which I find even more annoying than a dim start.
@narfcake My parent's house had one very old mercury based wall switch in it that had a delay. You could flip the switch and see it in the full up/down position and then maybe 1/2 second later the light would turn on/off. That was good training for the delay-start LEDs...
@narfcake Nope, real wires, I suspect someone just had a very old (but still a toggle) switch and used it in the hallway. I wish I'd grabbed it when I left...
@cengland0 of course. I was going to grab a couple of the regular ones, but they were sold out by the time I saw it. If they come back up sometime, I will. I just noticed that we DON'T have CFLs in two fixtures, but they are really low wattage incandescents.
The specs say the floods are type PAR30 which should be 3.75" in diameter, but the specs also say the actual diameter is 4-5/8" which is closer to a PAR38 or PAR40. Which is correct?
I wonder what the folks who filled their garages with Incandescent bulb inventory when the govt sorta shut down incandescent bulbs are thinking now?
One thing we noticed after getting off incandescents - the can lights in our basement office/home theater room used to nudge the temperature up a bit. No more of that. Just light. And no electric-bill guilt leaving those LEDs on.
@RedOak Thinking we did good because NONE of the currently available LED or CFL bulbs provide the same quality of light as the Verilux bulbs we use in reading areas. Also the bulbs (mostly North American made) are a known quantity with consistent expected usage and lifetimes, unlike the chinese wonder bulbs (which we DO use and HAVE experienced short lifetimes, flickering and flashing, and other unpleasant effects).
Bring back the GOOD ole incandescent bulbs. They were cheap and lasted just as long as the $10 bulbs. WallyWorld had cheap 100W incandescent bulbes that lasted 6 months in a pack of 4 for $1.25. All this BULLSHIT about saving the world is costing me too damn much and making me BLIND in the process... 40 WATTS?? The one in my 'Fridge is brighter than that!!!
@IBMgrunt Not to mention the manufacturing and related jobs lost in the US and other North American countries now that pretty much all light bulbs are imported (mostly from China).
@eyewerks Yes. When something they are selling is genuinely a piece of shit, they own up to it and tell you straight out. There is nothing here saying they don't think these are pretty good quality. Meh is about the most honest retailer you will find.
I'm noit saying that they're dishonest. just that most of what is sold here seems to be liquidated crap that probably hasn't sold well and is being unloaded at discounted prices. For instance, bulbs that no one really wants because, despite being good quality, they just aren't bright enough to prove useful. I don't think that I have made a single purchase here that I wouod have made had I seen the item in front of me in a brick and mortar store. And lots of what I bought has been missing parts, failed prematurely, or been of a quality inferior to what I was expecting.
EDIT: MY bulb's sold out. Nevermind.Disregard this post. Thanks. I did a quick scan and didn't run across this----- I don't need these but!...My mother has 12 overhead bulbs in her kitchen. They are recessed and she had to go to 40watt bulbs because the higher wattage was making the wood smoke--it was dangerous. Anyone have pics of the spotlight type bulbs in something so I could see them being used better? And, this is a lot of bulbs to buy......if I need bulbs like this in a year, will this size and shape be rather easy to find? Thanks, and now I'll re-read the thread...
@wew based on the light distribution pattern on the spec page, the "flood" light is more like a spot light... think something that you would use for shining at art/paintings on the wall. It might be nice in your mom's kitchen, or she might hate them. Worth a shot, though!
I have one of those totally-enclosed fixtures over the kitchen sink; CFLs die in there nearly as quickly as incandescents. This would seem to be the solution -- except that I actually set a couple of LED bulbs in there two years ago, and one of them bit the luminescent dust in five months. Those were 60w equivalents; is it possible that these lower-wattage bulbs might survive?
@windowphobe these aren't lower wattage, these are just dimmer. The 40w equivalent bulb uses 9w of power, which means it will make close to 9w of heat. Look for bulbs that use much less power or are rated for high temperature operation.
@windowphobe CFLs suck if they're not running for long before they're turned off again. It dramatically shortens their lifespan. LEDs on the other hand don't care how many times you power cycle them. CFLs and other fluorescent bulbs should run at least 15 minutes before power down or else you're degrading the life of the bulb.
Just got the three floodlights I ordered...and they don't fit in my 90s-vintage can lights, as the shoulder of the bulb is too wide to clear the internal frame for the socket. I can still use them in the garage and the storage area, but meh.
Anyone interested in 4 of the larger floodlight ones? My drunk self thought they would work well in the 4 tall Ikea "Not" lamps (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10139879/ mine have the small gooseneck on them too) when I ordered them, but now that I opened one up, it kinda sucks. I think I got them because they were brighter than the smaller ones, but failed to realize the difference in shape/light direction.
@communist hey, @marklog did end up getting them from me. Just wanted to let you know. Hopefully someone else will post theirs if they don't want them. Cheers 🍻
I bought 3. They don't work as well as expected when dimming low and turning on and off; a flicker effect occurs. Also, 1 of the 3 bulbs I ordered has a very bothersome humming sound come from it.
Got mine today. Other than a slight buzzing/humming noise they seem to work well. They're bright and not too "white" IMO. Boy, are they heavy though! Each bulb is encased in a metal sheath. What's that all about?
I ordered a bunch of these and they came today! I was disappointed to find that the directions say not to use them in enclosed fixtures. Which means they're not going to work in the fixtures I bought them for. However, my husband did switch out a couple of our lamps and put two up in our bathroom. Imagine my dismay when I went in the bathroom tonight and one of the new bulbs started flickering and went out. :-/
I got 3 of the 9w bulbs and 2 of them buzz so bad that I can't use them in the lamp I wanted to :/ I don't suppose Cree wants to jump in and exchange any of these?
So I thought they would be super dim but they are actually much brighter than I though! Hella heavy and with a crazy amount of metal makes it hard to find a place to use them where they would fit though.
For future sales/reference: The little ones are fine. The bigger flood lights are not what I was expecting. I put 3 outside around my shop where I want to keep it lit up all night. They don't light up the area at all. Was expecting 'Flood' lights that 'flood' the area with light. They instead shoot a narrow beam onto a spot. Guess that's why some folks might call them SPOT LIGHTS! Totally my fault, I guess. Anyway, trying to figure out where to use these now.
I bought two. Both appeared to work great for the first two or three days. Now, one of them is consistently very dim. I swapped the bulbs to the opposite sockets, and the same problem bulb is still acting up. It's maybe half as bright as the good one. Meh. Oh well.
Like many folks I didn't buy these because they were only 40W equivalent... The bulb just blew in the refrigerator... and guess what.. they are 40W bulbs!!!
@jont@snapster More LED bulbs would be great for those of us whose states don't subsidize Home Depot. Something reasonably bright, like 60W equivalent (800-900 lm) but good efficiency (<9W used) if you can get them down to $5.00 each.
Dimmability is a minor plus, but I woudn't pay more or sacrifice lm/W for it. 3000K is ideal, 2700K is OK. At that price point, anything over 20,000 hours life is fine.
Specs
40W Equivalent Lamp Light
50W Equivalent Floodlight
Model: 1504050217
Color temperature: 2,988K (warm white/daylight)
Color accuracy (CRI): 83
Type: PAR30
Screw: E26/24
Watts: 11W
Voltage: 100-240 AC
Amps: 230mA
LED replacement for: 50-60W Incandescent
Environment: Indoor
Luminous output: 554
Lumens per watt (efficacy): 50
Luminous intensity (cd): 2100
Beam angle: 28°
Average life: 35,000 hours
Made with Cree LEDs
6" long, 3 5/8" wide
Manufacturer specs
More manufacturer specs
(variances between manufacturer specs and these listed specs come directly from the packaging)
Condition: New
Warranty: 90 Day Mediocre
Estimated Delivery: 3/26 - 3/30
Shipping: $5 or free with VMP
What’s in the Box?
1x 9W LED lamp light
or
1x 11W LED floodlight
Pictures
7W side view
7W top
11W side view
11W top view
Elephant lamp
Price Check
$12.99 at Amazon for similar to the 7W
$24.99 at Amazon for similar to the 11W
Warranty
90 days
Happy Pi Day
@lichme the ideal time to eat your pie is 9:26 Saturday morning.
@RedOak (or night!)
@gregormehndel that would be 3.14152126.
@RedOak I see the logic, but I'll still eat pie morning, day, and night. Military time be damned!
@lichme I, am...a pie eater.
@RedOak Actually your wrong Pi=3.14159265
@IBMgrunt Actually "you're" wrong.
What if they arrive broken?
@bruinscbr not if but when
@bruinscbr it is pretty darn hard to break a LED bulb.
@thismyusername a lot of them are surrounded by glass. Which is usually a bit matte, to give them a nicer appearance.
@bruinscbr then.....then don't screw them in...
@bruinscbr Don't worry..if there not broken when you get them, they'll soon burn out.. I've never had one to last longer than 8mos...
@IBMgrunt
NEVER had one fail yet and every bulb in my home is LED.
@IBMgrunt do you get your LED bulbs? I've had good luck with the real Cree bulbs from Home Depot.
@IBMgrunt most (over 95%) of mine are the cree home depot glass dome ones, no burn out failures in coming up on 2 years.
@Nexar yea, I have that kind... but looking at the pics, I don't think the 40W here have any glass other than the silicon ;)
Good price if you don't mind yellow lights. I prefer 5000K to 6000K bulbs. They seem to be closer to daylight than these approx 3000K bulbs.
@cengland0 Daylight on a cloudy day is rated at approximately 6700k.
@cengland0 For 5000K light to look natural, it needs to be really bright. These lamps are relatively dim suited to accent lighting, so 2350K might look the most natural.
@Brandonson112 And a sunny day is typically 5200K.
@satyenshah I disagree about the 2350K looking more natural. It looks very unnatural to me. I think some people prefer that temperature because it's closer to the incandescent bulbs of the past.
@cengland0 this is not yellow enough. It needs to be 2700k to look like an equivalent 40 watt incandescent.
@daveJay The difference between 2350 and 2700 is minor when I prefer 5000 to 6000. They are both too yellow.
@cengland0 these aren't 2350, they're 2939. Which is way too white. But if you prefer super white over yellow, then yeah, no big difference.
@cengland0 there's something romantic about the warm glow of an incandescent bulb that white LEDs just can't replace – unless they're 2700k LEDs :)
@daveJay If you want romance, use a candle.
@cengland0 5000K light bulbs?! How many fixtures do you have in your house!?! I have far fewer than five million. ;)
@cengland0 The warm glow is reminiscent of the light from candles, lamps, and even an open fire. It stirs something deep inside us that is different from the bright daylight sun. Time to relax, eat, prepare to sleep. And the fire is what kept the darkness, and the dangers that lurked there at bay... Having bright white lights in your face well into the evening can make it more difficult to relax, fall asleep, and get good sleep... Thats why hopefully someday the controlled spectrum bulbs that can change throughout the day (Philips Hue f.ex) will become standard and relatively inexpensive
@cengland0 I use 4000K for common areas and offices at work, and 3500K for more intimate conference rooms. At home, 4000K goes in the kitchen and warmer goes in the living rooms and bedrooms. But even more important than color temperature is color rendering. These bulbs at 83 CRI aren't that great. Cree makes a "True White" series that is available in 90+ CRI, which is excellent.
BAIT ALERT!!!!!!!!!
@unixrab Troll alert!
@cengland0 did you buy?
@unixrab no, these bulbs are the wrong color temperature for my environment.
@unixrab Nah. 60w or bust.
@unixrab but... free shipping!!!!1
@unixrab Talking to yourself again? You should seek professional help.
Those have hardly any use as they are so low watts. I like bright ones like 100 watts plus 3 way bulbs. Maybe a 50-60 in a lamp that has like 3 bulbs. Too bad. Price is decent.
@Kidsandliz Yeah, they might be a little dim... I recently got a 120W replacement LED for my kitchen table and its awesome! Atleast at this price im sure to find some use for them... If just in the basement or attic.
So many nights, I'd sit by my window,
Waiting for someone to sing me his song.
So many dreams, I kept deep inside me,
Alone in the dark, now Meh came along.
And Meh lights up my life,
Meh gives me hope, to carry on.
Meh lights up my days
And fill my nights with song.
@thismyusername You're not my only friend.
@thismyusername in the velvet darkness of the blackest night, burning bright...
Whose bright idea was it to sell these?
@jsh139 snort
@Kidsandliz Hey, that was actually pretty enlightening.
@Brandonson112 Screw you
@lichme LED astray.
@mehjohnson Watt are you talking about?
@jsh139 Don't be a dim-wit.
@gregormehndel Nice to see we're not burnt out on the puns yet.
@rschauer yes, albeit dimmer and dimmer....
@jsh139 hey lighten up.
@gregormehndel
unlike the 50W bulb, there will be no dimming there
@gregormehndel These puns are becoming re-volt-ing.
@gregormehndel This thread is so delightful
@lichme I agree. I even made an impulse buy, but then had to de-cree: void the transaction.
@gregormehndel It's getting late, and I'm feeling pretty burnt out. Bed time for me. I need to regain some energy.
@lichme I know what you mean. I'm starting to feel like the lights are on, nobody home.
@jsh139 I can see what you did there
Most states have programs where they instant rebate bulbs right at Home Depot or Lowes. I can get nice brand name LED bulbs all day long for $3-$5 each. I switched my entire house over about a year back and it's amazing how much I'm actually saving on my electric bill. I thought it would be a minimal savings but it's literally $50-$100 each month saved. I have some rooms with 9+ recessed lights running many hours a day though so I'm lit up like a darn torch over here.
Not sure about this specific bulb, but CREE bulbs are def top notch.
@Stallion damn. My whole bill is only $50-$100
@Stallion almost-all LED lighting here as well... can leave every light on and the meter barely spins!
@Stallion you could have a saved a lot of money just by unscrewing some of the bulb or I don't know, turning off some lights...
@medz -Mine too. As low as $35 in the summer.
This time of year my electric bill is less than $30. It won't break $50 until the A/C is running regularly.
@medz Not too many lights in the double-wide, huh?
@clarinetbob i think we have about 3000 sq ft...
@Stallion I wish we got those rebates here in az. Still 11-15 a bulb here.
@clarinetbob worst electric bill I ever had was when i was living in trailer. No insulation always to hot or cold.
@medz Word. $50-150 for 2400sq ft. Including water, wastewater, sewer and trash/recycling in Texas heat. Oh, and I have 2 LED's and a set of Phillips Hue bulbs, plus numerous CFLs and some incandescents left. As in left I mean in lights used for hours on a daily basis.
Meh, I'd be in if there were at least 60W equivalent available but 40W and 50W just aren't bright enough.
@elangomatt Bought a two-pack of 60W equivalent LED bulbs from Big Lots for $8. They're nice, but when they were scanned at purchase, the computer said they weren't to be sold in my state (WA), so the single 2-pack I bought to test was the only one they sold. They had to send 'em all back and are waiting on ones that weren't mistakenly shipped to the store. I just hope they'll have more, and at that price...
@Talidan - Do you have any more info about Washington's requirements?
@KDemo No clue. I'm not even sure if there are requirements. Seemed more like the company just fudged up and possibly something that was supposed to be sent to another state ended up there, causing logistical/record keeping issues. At least that's my thought. The manager wasn't entirely sure either, just that they were sent something that wasn't meant for them.
@Talidan - Aha. I was thinking maybe something hazardous like mercury, but research says they're safer than CFDs.
@Talidan IKEA had 2 packs of 40w LEDs for $6 and some change...best deal by far that I've found in Texas or on Amazon. Not super bright but worth the cost savings for lamps and bathroom lighting.
Parents wanted these, got 3 because cheap
So, in for 3 strange-pompous-drawer
@WilhelmScreamer Hmmm, I want that, not bulbs.
@badmnky Me too! http://www.yankodesign.com/2010/12/27/travelling-with-a-closet/
What? No attempt at a Pi day item? Baking dish, silverware, old break room pie...?
@jc283 the width of that orb is its circumference over Pi.
@RedOak today's the perfect day to bring this guy back out...
spiffy-zestful-sock
There's finally light at the end of the tunnel!!Finally something worth buying! My last purchase was dec 23rd!!!
Um the model on the light picture says "Bad C"
Can I get the "Good C" version?
So is it bad to put 50w bulbs in a 60w socket?
@pjoeltyler That's what she
@pjoeltyler yes- this will happen:
@pjoeltyler That means your socket supports a 60 watt bulb maximum. Since the maximum bulb you can buy from meh today is 11 watts, no problem using either.
@alacrity Thank you I will not buy this product for my home.
@pjoeltyler you know he was kidding right?
@daveJay
@daveJay I did not know this. Thank you for making me aware of this and I will consider this for futures situations.
these seem kinda inefficient. I just bought a bunch of 9.6 watt bulbs, and they are brighter than the 60 watt bulbs they replaced. I would expect 11 watt led bulbs to be closer to 75 watt equivilent. These must be left over last generation bulbs. Just a guess.
@Headly Watts is not a good measure of a bulb brightness. You should compare lumens or lux.
@cengland0 the point is that i have a bunch of 9.6 watt bulbs that are brighter than these 11 watt bulbs. 810 lumens to be specefic. these are 554 @ 11 watts.
@Headly Yes LED bulbs are getting more efficient each generation, why do you think these landed at meh? hehe
@Headly 50 watts per lumen is pretty piss poor. these bulbs don't compare to modern cree's at ALL. They might be cree components, but the similarity with the 90+ lumen per watt cree bulbs at home depot ends at the name.
@thismyusername well, yeah. but i just got some of the 9.6 watt/810 lumen ones for $4 each at Costco...
@Headly I have crappy old T12 48" Fluorescent tubes in my kitchen and bathrooms. Even those are more efficient, at 58+ lumens per watt.
@Headly at less than 60 lumens per watt, these are terribly inefficient compared to higher end LEDs on the market. I'm replacing fluorescent fixtures at work with LED fixtures that are 100-110 lumens per watt. That didn't stop me from buying six of the flood lights, though.
@VeeDubTDI What do you think of the 2015 GTD?
@Headly I like the Mk7 platform, but I don't fit in it so well. 6'4" and I find that the lower roofline where it meets the windshield puts the rear view mirror right in my field of view, blocking a significant portion of the road in front of me.
These LED do not seem any better wattage than a CFL.
@alose the key with LED over CFL is longevity, they should outlast a cfl by a couple decades... of course these say 90day warranty... so.... (also no mercury in led and more durable).
@thismyusername also I believe there is none of that mercury nonsense in the LED bulbs
@alose I hate my CFLs. We had one break and supposedly we're supposed to evacuate the house if that happens to avoid Mercury exposure.
Plus, they burn out way too easily. You're not supposed to turn them on and off in a short period of time or it greatly shortens their life.
And you're not supposed to put them in an enclosed area like a ceiling lamp or it makes them burn out.
CFLs just totally suck.
@daveJay When i was in high school we played with mercury In science class. And I'm not that old. Now you're supposed to evacuate for teeny tiny amounts of it?
@daveJay yeah, that's what annoyed me back when the government had to deal with this threat of incandescents invading our homes for over 100 years and we have to liberate us from such atrocities and evil doers. But you're not supposed to use CFLS where it is only on momentarily (like bathrooms), enclosed areas (chandeliers outside), cold weather (again outside, at least for me), high vibration (garage door, ceiling fans). All that said I've ONLY had a CFL stop working on a light I have outside for 12 hours a night (because apparently why bother lighting up the side with all the garages that people enter and exit constantly). Most of my bulbs are those hue lights, because it's SOOO addicting
@djslack not the same thing.
@daveJay Do not over react if a compact fluorescent bulb breaks. Mercury is bad for you, but there isn't much mercury in a bulb. Don't snort the dust, don't feed it to your children. Coal powered electrical plants are still the major source of mercury in the environment.
The "Amazon price check" bulb outputs 820 lumens vs. 500 for the A19 bulb. Not a good comparison.
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I had no idea my cam was on.
Shoot. I bought four of these. But I wrongly assumed they were 2700k. 3000k is far too white for my taste. I much prefer the warm natural looking glow of 2700k. At 2700 you can't tell the LED apart from an incandescent. 3000k feels way too white, it feels artificial.
Can I cancel an order?
@daveJay yes if you ACT QUICKLY, HURRY THERE IS NO TIME (goto meh.com, bottom left, my orders, click cancel).
@daveJay I think you have 15 minutes to do so. Not sure though.
@thismyusername I canceled. Bummer. It was a good sale.
@daveJay Yes, you have 1 hour to change your mind.
@mehsterious is my memory foggy or wasn't the cancel order window extended to an hour about a month or so ago? @JonT?
@thismyusername I kinda miss Craig late late.
@RedOak That's what I was thinking. But then again, it's Friday night and I'm not really thinking. :)
@mehjohnson Yeah. But the new guy who talks funny starts soon
@RedOak I thought it was extended to an hour, as well.
@gertiestn I'll give new guy a chance, but new job starts too early so will have to dvr it. Might not work when watching it daylight-ish.
Where's the Pi(e)?
@sakempf ... In your ey(e)..?
Been itching to try some LED bulbs. In for 4 for the kids' bathroom where they leave the light on all damn night.
@jsh139 bought my first house last year and replaced all lights with led's, my bill is lower than when I rented a small apartment that was half the size of the house. I credit the one light that the kids leave on constantly no matter what time of day or night....
fabulous-fouled-snail. Ewww. I kind of want to cancel and reorder for a new confirmation phrase. No w3w either.
Oh please, meh, please pack these with adequate Texas air. You know, dunnage.
This is interesting, @Snapster - re-searching order phrase images returns 3 other images from this forum page in the top 10 - Otherwise unrelated to the phrase. Of course, they wouldn't appear on the original search, but you're changing the whole image paradigm here. Someone's gonna wonder what a snowbound fire hydrant has to do with a fabulous snail.
In for one, just because none of the lights at my place are LED yet.
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@mortonfox please don't let this product sour you on LEDs if you don't end up liking it. There are much better ones out there.
Just wanted to add in a bath/bed/kitchen remodel last year I paid $180 for 20 of these. They looked/worked awesome and this is a good deal.( amazing how much they went down in 1 years time )
In for two floods.
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@mehjohnson redrum
@cengland0 Shining flood:
@mehjohnson
@mehjohnson Reminds me of Charlie Sexton.
@YahSah15
@cengland0 REDRUM! REDRUM!
@YahSah15 I don't see it, but will take your word for it...
Can I use these to upgrade the shitty Eveready lanterns that barely glow?
@eyewerks I don't even have mine. I got a camera I didn't order though
Bought six!
Love LED bulbs. Even if these aren't the most effecient they sure are cheeeeeap.
I just bought four. This is the most I've ever spent at meh. I'm not sure what to think about that.
Also, tight-clinched-spider.
In for six, great for the ceiling fan light fixtures with the multiple bulbs that keep burning out!
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@strobot I had that same problem.. then I looked closely at the ceiling fans and noticed they used the next size down from the "standard US" style. (forgot the NEMA #'s) Wish I would considered that when I bought the ceiling fans. It ended up costing me almost twice as much (two years ago) to replace the incandescents. On the bright side (he he) the CFL's haven't burned out yet. It seemed like I was replacing the incandescents in those fans every couple of months so you are lucky your fans take these.
@RFOneWatt You can get adapters for the intermediate sockets that allow the smaller candelabra base bulbs to be used (that is what we did). And you can get CFL and LED bulbs in candelabra base easily
Got 4. Because I bet they fit nicely in a box that way.
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In for six. I have no idea if this is a good deal, or if I even want these, but I want to try them and I can't seem to help myself.
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@PurplePawprints Aww, purple.
Ugly people like dim lights. In for three.
Thought about it ... then remembered that 60w equivalent (10w) with better CRI and a warmer temp can be had at Ikea for under $5.
VMP continues unused ...
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20266225/
@narfcake I have a bunch of Ikea LEDs. I'm surprised by their quality being pretty reasonable, considering the low price.
Bought 4 lightbulbs. Please, Meh, don't send me 2 cameras...
Well unless they are Nikons. Then, Meh, please don't take my Kodachrome away.
@aperfecttool72 ok I bought 3 in hopes of getting 3 Nikons, thanks aperfecttool72!
I have a ton of lamps with several bulbs, so in for 4 of the 40watts and 2 floods
In for 6 40W bulbs. I have 4 Cree bulbs in my dining room. Paid like $15 or $20 I believe. Plenty bright. I thought 40W equivalent wouldn't be bright enough, but I was wrong. Pretty much got the bulbs because I have vaulted ceilings and I'm too lazy to change those bulbs with any frequency.
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Imma gonna try a couple. We only have old incandescent bulbs in our house. And some candles.
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I like Cree bulbs, but won't buy any LEDS less than 800 lumens. I find anything less than that is just not bright enough.
I look at these bulbs, and it's like looking in a mirror. I'm not that bright either.
@G1 I wanted to click on the star because I laughed, but then I thought, would I be telling you that you're not that bright? Analysis paralysis!
@pyip001 the InterWorld would be a much nicer place if more folks thought like you.
I wanted to like these, I really did.
The $5 "40 watt replacement" eWing LED bulbs I bought at Fry's use 4 watts instead of 9 though.
In for 6 floods. I for one cannot wait until my cameras arrive!
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@Mehrocco_Mole Awesome pooch!!!
@Mehrocco_Mole I'm hoping for a KitchenAid stand mixer.
I don't think I am cool enough for this site. Way to much bull turds. I don't know if these light bulbs are worth buying or not?
@mick at $3 yes they are a steal. at $5 they are ok(keep in mind 90 day warrenty instead of years )
so i went into the basement to check my brothers old led bulbs(he kept the boxes and receipt in case he needs to use the "5" year warranty on the bulbs) (they are 800 lumens) when i came out of the basement to buy.... the $3 40w equals sold OUT
Sigh i blame @unixrab
and @barney
and @jont
and that sheepy fellow
@communist Isn't "that sheepy fellow" and @unixrab the same person?
@communist What does our purple loving member have to do with this?! It's not February anymore!
Anyway, at $3, it's not a spectacular deal, as they're relatively low in efficiency and has a poor CRI.
I love purple!
@narfcake but it costs as much as a frappacino and lasts years and years
I've seen color temperature as low as 5000K considered to be "daylight," but I don't think 2939K should ever be called daylight. Normally, 5500K is what "daylight" suggests.
@Vistinum very good deal here
I'm surprised you guys didn't market these like the "dumb TVs" from a while back. Because that's kinda what these are - just lights, no Wi-Fi, no fancy custom colors, no turning them on and off from your phone (or watch).
@aarmea For us Amish folks, these are "smart" enough!
56 Lumens/W is low for LED bulbs, and these are a bit yellow.
But they are cheap.
About three years ago, we ran across a hardware store that was going out of business, and they had 65 and 100W CFL replacements for 50c-$1/each. We bought a case of each. (I think there were 36 in the 65w replacement and 24 in the 100w replacement) When we moved into our new place, we immediately put CFLs in all the sockets and lamps.
Also, the electric company came by and gave us a bunch of free CFL spotlight bulbs this year, which are now in the spotlight sockets, and so I took the regular CFLs out and put them back in the boxes. So, I've got 40 new bulbs and 4 slightly used ones.
Sure, I might like the LED bulbs more, but I've got enough CFLs to last through either 2 or 3 more moves, or the rest of my life, whichever comes first. (assuming that i don't pull out the in-use ones)
@eblade I bought a bunch of CFL's before LED lights became more affordable too. I had to decide if it was better to upgrade the CFL to LED and take a hit on the initial cost to try saving money in the long term. The deciding factor wasn't about cost. Once I put in my first set of LEDs and they became maximum brightness when I first turned it on, I was sold.
I still have a couple CFL bulbs around the house and it still surprises me how long it takes to get to full brightness after you turn them on. I haven't timed it but it feels like 10 minutes.
@cengland0 Different brands of CFLs react differently. The 5/$1 ones I got (Sunrise brand) take nearly 2 minutes to get to full brightness; the 8/$1 ones (Broada) take about 10 seconds. The quick starting ones have experienced shorter life, though.
FWIW, some LEDs do have a delay on turning on, which I find even more annoying than a dim start.
@narfcake My parent's house had one very old mercury based wall switch in it that had a delay. You could flip the switch and see it in the full up/down position and then maybe 1/2 second later the light would turn on/off. That was good training for the delay-start LEDs...
@narfcake I have never experienced a delay in turning on an LED light. If there is any delay, it's imperceptible to me.
@cengland0 Some of the ones that Newegg sells have this issue. Quite annoying.
@duodec Talk about vintage! It's not so old to be knob/tube wiring either, is it?
@narfcake Nope, real wires, I suspect someone just had a very old (but still a toggle) switch and used it in the hallway. I wish I'd grabbed it when I left...
@cengland0 of course. I was going to grab a couple of the regular ones, but they were sold out by the time I saw it. If they come back up sometime, I will. I just noticed that we DON'T have CFLs in two fixtures, but they are really low wattage incandescents.
The specs say the floods are type PAR30 which should be 3.75" in diameter, but the specs also say the actual diameter is 4-5/8" which is closer to a PAR38 or PAR40. Which is correct?
@satyenshah ¿PAR que?
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@satyenshah my expectation is some packaging spec got mixed in - PAR30 should be right.
At least we have some handy references at hand if we need to calculate the circumference today.
@snapster Happy pi day!
PS: where are the shirts?
what would the shipping be for " four"
I wonder what the folks who filled their garages with Incandescent bulb inventory when the govt sorta shut down incandescent bulbs are thinking now?
One thing we noticed after getting off incandescents - the can lights in our basement office/home theater room used to nudge the temperature up a bit. No more of that. Just light. And no electric-bill guilt leaving those LEDs on.
@RedOak Thinking we did good because NONE of the currently available LED or CFL bulbs provide the same quality of light as the Verilux bulbs we use in reading areas. Also the bulbs (mostly North American made) are a known quantity with consistent expected usage and lifetimes, unlike the chinese wonder bulbs (which we DO use and HAVE experienced short lifetimes, flickering and flashing, and other unpleasant effects).
Bring back the GOOD ole incandescent bulbs. They were cheap and lasted just as long as the $10 bulbs. WallyWorld had cheap 100W incandescent bulbes that lasted 6 months in a pack of 4 for $1.25. All this BULLSHIT about saving the world is costing me too damn much and making me BLIND in the process... 40 WATTS?? The one in my 'Fridge is brighter than that!!!
@IBMgrunt There's not as much profit in "good" when they could sell shitty and you'll have to keep coming back to repurchase.
@IBMgrunt Not to mention the manufacturing and related jobs lost in the US and other North American countries now that pretty much all light bulbs are imported (mostly from China).
@IBMgrunt meh
You all miss the point.
If these actually were any good do you really think that Meh would be selling them?
@eyewerks Yes. When something they are selling is genuinely a piece of shit, they own up to it and tell you straight out. There is nothing here saying they don't think these are pretty good quality. Meh is about the most honest retailer you will find.
@okaytodd they didn't say the Oregon Scientific weather radios were pieces of shit. ;)
I'm noit saying that they're dishonest. just that most of what is sold here seems to be liquidated crap that probably hasn't sold well and is being unloaded at discounted prices. For instance, bulbs that no one really wants because, despite being good quality, they just aren't bright enough to prove useful. I don't think that I have made a single purchase here that I wouod have made had I seen the item in front of me in a brick and mortar store. And lots of what I bought has been missing parts, failed prematurely, or been of a quality inferior to what I was expecting.
No Georgia Red. . . for that alone, meh.
EDIT: MY bulb's sold out. Nevermind.Disregard this post. Thanks. I did a quick scan and didn't run across this----- I don't need these but!...My mother has 12 overhead bulbs in her kitchen. They are recessed and she had to go to 40watt bulbs because the higher wattage was making the wood smoke--it was dangerous. Anyone have pics of the spotlight type bulbs in something so I could see them being used better? And, this is a lot of bulbs to buy......if I need bulbs like this in a year, will this size and shape be rather easy to find? Thanks, and now I'll re-read the thread...
@wew based on the light distribution pattern on the spec page, the "flood" light is more like a spot light... think something that you would use for shining at art/paintings on the wall. It might be nice in your mom's kitchen, or she might hate them. Worth a shot, though!
@wew I debated this right up until the end.
CRI 78? That's pretty flippin' meh.
I have one of those totally-enclosed fixtures over the kitchen sink; CFLs die in there nearly as quickly as incandescents. This would seem to be the solution -- except that I actually set a couple of LED bulbs in there two years ago, and one of them bit the luminescent dust in five months. Those were 60w equivalents; is it possible that these lower-wattage bulbs might survive?
@windowphobe these aren't lower wattage, these are just dimmer. The 40w equivalent bulb uses 9w of power, which means it will make close to 9w of heat. Look for bulbs that use much less power or are rated for high temperature operation.
@hamjudo Thanks. I wasn't sure, and I kept my MasterCard sheathed. Evidently my instincts were working for once.
@windowphobe CFLs suck if they're not running for long before they're turned off again. It dramatically shortens their lifespan. LEDs on the other hand don't care how many times you power cycle them. CFLs and other fluorescent bulbs should run at least 15 minutes before power down or else you're degrading the life of the bulb.
costco appears to be selling these in a pack of 3 for $5, for anyone who missed yesterdays deal.
@andipandi Not here in SoCal. It's probably subsidized by your utility company.
Just got the three floodlights I ordered...and they don't fit in my 90s-vintage can lights, as the shoulder of the bulb is too wide to clear the internal frame for the socket. I can still use them in the garage and the storage area, but meh.
Got 4 to put in the kitchen and we love them. You're the best, meh! (Certain those words have never been spoken before)
Anyone interested in 4 of the larger floodlight ones? My drunk self thought they would work well in the 4 tall Ikea "Not" lamps (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10139879/ mine have the small gooseneck on them too) when I ordered them, but now that I opened one up, it kinda sucks. I think I got them because they were brighter than the smaller ones, but failed to realize the difference in shape/light direction.
I paid $20, I'll take $10 if you pay shipping.
@fury i'll buy them. mark at logusz dot com.
@marklog cool, I'll email you.
@fury hey if they are still avalible email me at eminemjones@gmail.com
@communist as of now, they've been claimed by @marklog. If for whatever reason he doesn't want them, they're yours.
@fury label to be emailed shortly, thank you for the reminder :)
@communist hey, @marklog did end up getting them from me. Just wanted to let you know. Hopefully someone else will post theirs if they don't want them. Cheers 🍻
I bought 3. They don't work as well as expected when dimming low and turning on and off; a flicker effect occurs. Also, 1 of the 3 bulbs I ordered has a very bothersome humming sound come from it.
Got mine today. Other than a slight buzzing/humming noise they seem to work well. They're bright and not too "white" IMO. Boy, are they heavy though! Each bulb is encased in a metal sheath. What's that all about?
@jsh139 heat dissipation
I ordered a bunch of these and they came today! I was disappointed to find that the directions say not to use them in enclosed fixtures. Which means they're not going to work in the fixtures I bought them for. However, my husband did switch out a couple of our lamps and put two up in our bathroom. Imagine my dismay when I went in the bathroom tonight and one of the new bulbs started flickering and went out. :-/
Got my bulbs the other day and was excited to try them out! Meh. . . not bright enough. They do make a nice "night light" though.
I got 3 of the 9w bulbs and 2 of them buzz so bad that I can't use them in the lamp I wanted to :/
I don't suppose Cree wants to jump in and exchange any of these?
i got the floods and I love them. Bought the max, but I want more.
Got 6 floods to replace some LED spot lights in the kitchen that were creating a very annoying noise.
Wife loves them so so she's not making that annoying noise anymore like she did when she turned on the old spots.
So I thought they would be super dim but they are actually much brighter than I though! Hella heavy and with a crazy amount of metal makes it hard to find a place to use them where they would fit though.
Got several floods and 2 of the other ones. The standard ones buzz too much so I'm glad I only got 2. The floods (spots really) work well thus far.
For future sales/reference: The little ones are fine. The bigger flood lights are not what I was expecting. I put 3 outside around my shop where I want to keep it lit up all night. They don't light up the area at all. Was expecting 'Flood' lights that 'flood' the area with light. They instead shoot a narrow beam onto a spot. Guess that's why some folks might call them SPOT LIGHTS! Totally my fault, I guess. Anyway, trying to figure out where to use these now.
@UgaDogCH These are only rated for indoor use, by the way.
I bought two. Both appeared to work great for the first two or three days. Now, one of them is consistently very dim. I swapped the bulbs to the opposite sockets, and the same problem bulb is still acting up. It's maybe half as bright as the good one. Meh. Oh well.
Like many folks I didn't buy these because they were only 40W equivalent... The bulb just blew in the refrigerator... and guess what.. they are 40W bulbs!!!
DOH!
Maybe some will come in my Fuku!
@jont @snapster More LED bulbs would be great for those of us whose states don't subsidize Home Depot. Something reasonably bright, like 60W equivalent (800-900 lm) but good efficiency (<9W used) if you can get them down to $5.00 each.
Dimmability is a minor plus, but I woudn't pay more or sacrifice lm/W for it. 3000K is ideal, 2700K is OK. At that price point, anything over 20,000 hours life is fine.
BTW, thanks guys, U rock!