Naming a new hard drive...
4Recently one of my storage drives started to go bad… Slowing the whole system right down. Wouldn’t even boot properly…
Disconnected that drive for now, in hopes I can still recover the 2-ish TB of data on it.( Mostly videos)
Got my new drive today, a 6TB WD Purple unit. It will replace both 3TB storage drives.
Since I built the system before this one ( 2010 ish?) I started with a 1TB drive, called “Terabyte”. Then added a second one, " Terabyte 2: the sequel"
Next I replaced both with a single WD green 3TB " Treblebyte". Then a second 3TB, this one a WD blue. As far as I can figure I got the blue in 2013? Maybe 15?
A good run for all at any rate…
The one failing is the newer blue drive. The green ( which by most accounts are hot garbage) is still working like a champ…
Any way It’s time to come up with a name for the new drive.
Sextobyte just doesn’t sound kosher to me…
Doubletreble?
Any Ideas?
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I thought about “hexobyte”, but hex itself sounds like you’re putting a curse on it. Which is not good.
Maybe just keep it simple and call it D6?
I’m only counting 4 drives so far. Shouldn’t the new one be the 5th one, not the 6th? Are you naming them in their sequence or size?
FifthSith?
I name them by purpose and size.
D3WDR_4T = Data #3, WD Red, 4TB.
B2S_5T = Backup #2, Seagate, 5TB.
The naming is going on the Size of the drive.
Currently system has a 120Gb Kingston SSD for the boot/system drive, and 2 3Tb storage drives, “Treblebyte” & “Treblebyte 2”
Once everything is installed,
It will have a 250Gb WD blue SSD for the boot/system drive, and a 6Tb WD Purple as a storage drive.
@earlyre This is TOO EASY!! Just name the Purple one @Barney !!![:thumbsup:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f44d.png)
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@Barney @IndifferentDude
as much as I may like our @barney…
that character is just… no…
but as a classic Mopar fan…
Plum Crazy? In-Violet? FC7?
actually… I kinda like FC7…
I usually name them with the brand and date. Helps me locate and decide which to replace. But that’s boring. So… nevermind.
Johnny 6
@medz but do i want my computer to gain sentience?
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@earlyre @medz Nope, then they start asking for weekends off, and 40 hour work weeks.
Glaringly simple
Your new purple 6 G drive
Is called “Purple sex”
@replicacobra just no.
@earlyre @replicacobra Maybe BIGAPRON drive if you want it to be a bit less conspicuous?
KuoH
Hmmmmmmm… It looks like you are putting all your data on a single drive with no backup. That makes naming it very easy.
Not allowed to fucking cry when all my data is lost due to a drive crash.
@yakkoTDI no different than prior setup… Just consolidating 2 drives into 1.
And you’re assuming that I don’t have some sort of external backup…
Assuming correctly, but not entirely the point…
@earlyre @yakkoTDI
I almost commented that I’ve stopped buying drives bigger than 4TB because the backups were getting impractical.
I’ve also gone down in size for the boot partition - 120GB seems right for me.
I’ve moved my software depot (installation copies, manuals, receipts, license documents, etc) to a standalone 240GB SSD in an external shell hosted by my router as a poor man’s NAS.
The only big drive, a 4TB, is dedicated for media (OTA TV recordings) and game installations, which are huge these days. I think it’s the only mechanical drive in use besides the backup drives, which are currently 8TB externals, but trying to bring down to 5TB 2.5" externals.
Cloud backups are just not part of my off-site backup plan for several reasons, the biggest is that a cloud service is a subscription service contract between me and the provider.
Cloud service/storage contracts end when I die, and the cloud storage provider has no contractual obligation to grant access to my data to my survivors or my estate. Even to download and transfer to some other provider (even if they weren’t using a proprietary backup client), nor to continue service, nor to honor my pricing if I locked in a good deal.
All of which makes doing my own backups and keeping them offsite/protected (a data safe is critical) the best option for me given media and backup technologies available today.
@earlyre @yakkoTDI
Finding a data safe is a different problem, as safe makers seem to have four main protection features, theft, fire, flood, and data. However, there is literally nothing in the market for general consumers in the under $2000 range that can help with more than 2 of those things at a time. They’re usually fire rated, but worthless protecting from theft, or theft rated, but worthless protecting from fire. And if you have data, fire is the most critical one, because normal fire safes are rated for not burning paper. Electronics, like backup drives and plastics, are destroyed at those temperatures (450+). Hence data safes.
Then in a fire, the damage to surviving electronics is done by the water and smoke mixing to become acidic (remember acid rain?) which permeates everything and destroys the electronics. So you need sealing waterproof features.
Lastly, data safes are usually not designed to deter physical theft, (so you can also store other valuables, duh) so that makes finding a combo safe nigh impossible, and not cheap.
@earlyre @mike808 @yakkoTDI good info on fire safe thanks. Cold storage off-site is your next step here then.
@earlyre @LJeAYsy4LoqxEC @yakkoTDI
You can get data safes from the usual places (Sentry, etc.) but they’re definitely not going to be protection from theft and possibly not watertight.
Because in a fire, they will protect from the heat, but they will fail when the fire department hoses the place down and smoke and water get into your data safe with hard drives in plastic enclosures and thumb drives inside.
And they’re not designed to keep people from just taking the whole thing. Data safes are designed to keep important stuff safe from fire, not keeping people from just carrying the whole thing out in a burglary. They also usually look like they contain something important/valuable, so you might as well put a big sign saying “TAKE ME” on it. Funny thing, that’s what she said.
For example, you might be looking at the IOSafe 6TB (https://iosafe.com/products/solo-g3/). It weighs 15 pounds. Trivial to unplug, disconnect, and walk out with your backups. I hope they’re encrypted, btw. The same goes for your NAS.
That still doesn’t solve the problem of things like a portable recovery thumbdrive with scans of all of your critical legal documents (homeowner’s policy and deed!) and master passwords to your password managers and extra copies of those Yubikey 2FA (2-Factor Authentication) tokens to use when you have to bug out or a disaster hits and your home is a smoking, flooded, crater.
@earlyre @LJeAYsy4LoqxEC @yakkoTDI
In the end, I chose a Hollon safe with a data insert. It is a reasonably good fire/theft safe, and it just gets a lot smaller when they put the data safe insert (basically extra fire protection) inside their regular safe. Fire safes are rated for paper not catching fire (~450°F). For example, you might see a claim like:
Data or media safes are rated for lower interior temperatures to keep plastic and electronics from melting. An example is from FireKing. https://www.fireking.com/products/safes/data-safes/1-hour-ds-series-safe
Their claim is a “UL class 125 1-hour fire rating” meaning the interior temperature is kept below 125°F. I’m pretty sure that baking your hard drive or NAS in the oven for 20 minutes at 350°F will ruin it. So, not cool if your backup is on one and fire is the threat you’re protecting against, and you’ve put it in one of the everyday big-box anti-theft or even an anti-fire safe.
For options, I recommend starting your search here:
https://www.safeandvaultstore.com/collections/data-media-safes
Here’s a picture of the one I have (I removed the shelves to put documents in it too):
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For years I’ve wanted to build an off-site automatic backup rig and keep it at my buddy’s place 100 mi away, but alas I lack the knowledge/ skills/$$$ to make it so…
@earlyre It is easier than you think. I am building a low powered server to keep at my nephew’s house on the other side of the state. It will have 2 drives in Raid 1 which will be either 10 or 12 terabytes each.
Since I primarily run Windows machines I just use Robocopy for my backups. The initial data copy is the hard part but after that my script only copies the files that have changed. I can schedule the script to run or manually trigger it if needed.
As for my multiple Raspberry Pi computers I don’t store anything on them I would really miss due to data loss. Mostly it is files already backed up elsewhere.
Cost wise shouldn’t be too bad outside of the drive cost. Splurging on good fans and a high end power supply everything but the drives should be less than $300 for my server.
…and your buddy has to be willing to let you open a port on their network (or not know what that means).
@earlyre I’ve thought about that before, but at $7/month unlimited,
BackblazeCatblaze might be the way to go.https://www.backblaze.com/catblaze.html
@walarney if not him, my brother ( an honest to goodness IT professional) lives just a few miles from me, and has basically a mini data center in one of his bedrooms…
How about Frank? Frank’s a good name.
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@macromeh
Or Fred. I had a sledgehammer that I named “Fred”.
@macromeh @werehatrack nah… Cousin named Frank, whose Dad is Fred…nah.
I did used to have a car named “Bob”
Spinny McSpinnerson?
@carl669 a Carl post without a fuck?
Whatthefuckisupwiththat?
@earlyre it’s been a long fucking day
Sullenberger? (Crashes safely.)
The following is my intention. In progress, more or less. Getting there, maybe, someday.
My critical personal data is [in progress] locally encrypted on a friend’s RAID 6 home server, with a dup of my stuff on a cloud service. (Absolutely trust the person, and besides, encrypted.)
Paper copies of essentials are [in progress] dual stored at a lawyer’s place (lawyer is a close relative) who is not local, and locally in a fire safe at another relative’s, in a high security residential setup.
I feel quite fortunate to have these family and friend options.
Media: personal media (such as photos etc) is backed up to the cloud and the RAID setup.
Personal copies of media I’ve purchased and extracted are on the RAID server. Most of that is recoverable from the cloud store I purchased the media from.
Aside from audiobooks and e-books, I mostly stream nowadays. Don’t have a huge ripped media collection.
The friend’s RAID 6 server is a monster. My stuff takes up so little space on it as to be almost negligible.
raid 6, raid 7 – whatever it takes
elpruP
It’s backwards compatible
@ybmuG
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