@RiotDemon@sammydog01 I loved it. I literally laughed out loud as often as my grands did. RDJ was a little over the top but only sometimes and not always annoying with it. Plus, it had animals and some snark and I needed a non-stressful day with some of my babies so that could have colored my viewing pleasure. Either way, I’m still happy I went.
@mehbee@sammydog01 there was definitely parts that made me laugh. It was just a lot happening. When they looked at the villain (forget his name) on the boat and he’s violently shaking his head while talking, I lost it.
@RiotDemon@sammydog01 I would have to say that Kevin’s logs made me laugh the hardest but yes that was good too. I also have to give kudos to whoever dressed Lady Rose. She had some of the most beautiful clothes and they looked just like what you see in books.
I took my 15 year old niece. She loved it. I did not. I couldn’t get past that terrible accent! RDJ was attempting to channel Sean Connery, but he ended up mumbling through the majority of it. I was wishing for closed captioning.
@RiotDemon The original one with Rex Harrison is a movie I remember liking as a very young child, but it is almost universally panned, despite receiving an Oscar best picture nomination. I have deliberately avoided seeing it again for fear of being extremely disappointed.
I might give this one a look when it comes to my local second-run theater.
@punkynpye@sammydog01@tinamarie1974 it only has a PG rating. if they’re okay with a cannon fight and a guy trying to escape a tiger, I’m sure they’ll be okay. It has a lot of talking animals which I’m sure the kids will love.
@mehbee@punkynpye@RiotDemon@sammydog01 it was a little tough at first. Had to cover her eyes when the dragon was fighting the bad guys. But when we got to the farts, oh my! She is still talking about it so I started calling her dragon fart. She thinks it is hilarious
@RiotDemon We were completely enthralled, even with the schmaltzy [and totally fake] life-support when one of the characters had oxygen tubing run across his mouth [SWMBO is an RN to match my PA]. Good action adventure way to enjoy an afternoon.
@chienfou Too right, especially since I’m going to be critiquing it [mostly in my head, unless we’re watching at home] anyway.
That said, I deveIoped a slightly more understanding attitude about factual discrepancies in movies recently, after I watched a Youtube video on “Tod’s Workshop”. He’s a medieval weapon recreator, who often works on movie props.
As a well-known arbiter of historical weapon facts, he discussed the compromises in historical accuracy that he necessarily had to make in re-creating weapons for use in movies, for various reasons including practical, esthetic, political, and arbitrary irrational decisions made by directors and actors reasons.
You know that metal in metal sound you hear in a film when a sword is pulled from the sheath?
Sheaths were often leather. There was no metal-on-metal sound IRL.
But the sound effect has been used so constantly in films/tv that the audience expects the sound. If the sound is present, they’re fine. If the sound it absent from the effects track, the absence of the sound bugs the audience. .
The purpose of a defibrillator is to STOP the heartbeat (in this case V-Fib) with the HOPE that it will start back in a (relatively) normal rhythm.
It does not ‘jump start’ your heart…
@chienfou@f00l Per Tod’s Workshop, there were some metal-lined sheaths, but damp conditions made them a problem, and they also had some problems with dulling sword [and other blade] edges, so they were more often lined with a wooden core in contact with the blade, surrounded by leather for looks, durability, and ease in attaching straps, hangers, baldrics, etc…
@DennisG2014 My Da was a volunteer Nozzle Nut, and [generally] preferred to tend to first aid, and other medic-type issues more than the actual fire-fighting, so that show was watched religiously in our house, and God Forbid, if you interrupted his view of the idiot box…
@chienfou@DennisG2014@RiotDemon That is exactly correct- you can’t shock a non-rhythm [e.g., a flat line]- well, you could, but it wouldn’t help at all.
That’s when the chest compressions come in handy.
In one of the sound effect vids on the “extras” included with the LOTR Blu-Ray set, the film sound technicians talked about the various sword sound effects in particular. And those films include a lot of sword-drawing.
I think those behind-the-scenes vids also mention that, from way before Errol Flynn, thru Princess Bride, LOTR,and onwards, almost all movie sword-fighting techniques have nothing to do with fencing techniques that might actually work in sword combat or in competitive fencing. Movie sword-work is choreographed to look “dramatically great”. Other considerations don’t count.
Incidentally, the great former UK Olympic fencer Bob Anderson choreographed the sword fights in Highlander, The Princess Bride, the LOTR series, and many other films; esp, and famously, in several SW films (where in some films he played the role of Darth Vader onscreen for the lightsaber duels.
Somewhere I saw an interview with him about film-adapting competitive fencing techniques to maximize visual drama. But I can’t now remember where I saw that clip.
I did read Cary Elwes memoir on the making of TPB, and I believe he did mention both Mr. Anderson, and some discussion [IIRC] about the process of choreographing the epic sword-fight that occurs in the beginning of the film.
Personally, I have no experience or aptitude for fencing or sword-fighting, instead possessing the quick reflexes of a brain-damaged sloth, nonetheless, I have always been a [low budget] sword geek.
In high school, I wrote a research paper on the historical development of swords from the Stone Age through modern [mostly decorative] cavalry sabers, etc.
If you came into my house, you might feel somewhat intimidated by the swords, sword-based machetes, battleaxes, and morningstar/flails hanging on the walls, but I just think they’re really amazing, and since we have a log house, SWMBO agrees [importantly] that they make good decor.
We won’t mention the fact that we’re also huge fans of Zombpocalypse “fiction” in various media forms, and because shortly after we got together, we lived [unprepared] through an ice storm that took out the power, and other utilities for up to 3 weeks in the early 90’s, and then a microburst storm that similarly disrupted our lives in the late 90’s, we have become prepper-lites.
In the words of the late great Stan Lee 'nuff said…
I think I remember reading somewhere that the various LOTR swords were made by hand using trad processes. Supposedly somewhere there is vid of the sword making process for those films.
I think you can see the actual sword prop- makers briefly in the final film. They play the elves filmed doing the sword making in the “re-forging Anduril” scene.
I once saw an interview w Viggo Mortensen. During the filming, he had been to a gym to practice sword choreography. As he was walking to his car or wherever, someone called the police reporting “some guy walking down the street handling a sword as if he means to use it”. So some NZ cops came to check it out and wound up getting some selfies and autographs.
Since you already seem to know a lot about the behind the scenes, you probably already knew that Viggo broke his foot in Part 2, when he kicked a real helmet, after finding out the hobbits had been hobbit-knapped, thus the scream of anguish he let out wasn’t acting, it was pain.
Similarly, when Wesley/Dread Pirate Roberts was taken prisoner by Prince Humperdink and the six-fingered man, and the latter knocks him out by striking him with the hilt of his sword, it was likewise not acting that made him fall as if unconscious, he was really knocked out [and suffered a mildish concussion].
Christopher Guest had been obviously pulling his punches in the previous takes, so Cary Elwes told him to go ahead and hit him, and thus he did…
I listened to the Elwes book (a good and fun read), but had forgotten that part.
I think Mortensen also got a tooth busted or knocked out during LOTR shooting?
Mortensen, no slouch about work, wanted to just get the prop dept to do something for a visual fix and keep shooting.
Jackson said: no, take a day it two, see a dentist, get it fixed correctly.
Btw: I think the child soldier in this wonderful vid clip below is the Henry Mortensen, son of Viggo Mortensen and rock artist Exene Cervenka. Mortensen originally wanted to turn down the Aragorn role due to the problem of being apart from his son for so long during the NZ shoot.
Henry, a huge fan of the LOTR books, argued that his dad had to take one of the great iconic hero roles, the role of a lifetime.
So the production worked out a way for Henry to be in NZ a lot of the time, and give him stuff to do onscreen and offscreen.
And Henry got that lovely small part in film 2.
And Viggo, who had never previously read the books, read them in the week between getting hired (a v late hire, replacing another actor) and the start of shooting. He got so into the Tolkien-verse and he and Ian McKellen became sort of “on-set guardians of the book legacies”, always pushing to get the films to include more of the books’ feel and text.
(The child voice we hear is not Henry’s. His voice had already broken by the time the dialogue was recorded, and Jackson wanted a younger boy’s voice, so another child actor did the recorded dialogue.)
INJURED PARTY Mortensen (again!) [His initial injury as listed on this website was a black eye from a surging injury.]
DIAGNOSIS Chipped tooth
WHAT HAPPENED During the filming of the fight for Helm’s Deep in ”The Two Towers,” Mortensen chipped his front tooth in the heat of ”battle.” Determined to finish the scene, he asked that his tooth be glued back on so he could continue filming. Jackson wisely demurred and ordered the warrior to go to the dentist. Still, such dedication seems fitting behavior for the man who would be king. ”He was an inspiration to all of us,” says Liv Tyler (the ethereal elf Arwen).
I was actually creeped out a few times. Kristen Stewart still isn’t a great actress, but she did fine in this. They could of left out TJ Miller. A lot of people are comparing it to Alien. No. Definitely not. I really enjoyed it though.
@chienfou@punkynpye@RiotDemon@sammydog01 I have to say that while I really liked and was amazed by the CGI effects in the original [Robin Williams] movie Jumanji; the newer rebooted ones are amazing, and I really like Dwayne, etc., in them.
@RiotDemon I just saw it last week and really liked it! It wasn’t as twisty plot-wise as I expected, but the mysteries-within-mysteries angle was really played up in the reviews I read, so I guess I was primed for any and all possible plot twists. It’s possible I would have been thinking no one is addressing this obvious plot point, so I guess that’s the twist anyway. It was really beautifully cast and visually designed.
@RiotDemon Yeah, I go back and forth on reviews. They can be spot-on, and sometimes someone really hates something in a way that makes it clear I’d love it, and sometimes the reverse. And sometimes they give away too much of the plot. I’ve been sorry when I read just a little too far. But on the other hand [spoilers for an old-ish movie follow], it was a spoiler-filled essay about Phantom Thread that basically drove me to the theater. I was warned but reading it anyway, just in case I didn’t go see it, and there was a line like “after the second poisoning,” and I was like WHAT?! I MUST SEE THIS MOVIE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. And it was totally worth it.
@RiotDemon I wanted more from the ending. This probably isn’t fair but I wanted Knives out to turn back on itself and for it to be a game like she won the family fortune if she proved her innocence. Also - I wanted Capt. America to be in on the game with the Old man, really wanted him to be overseeing the game or test.
@Limewater@RiotDemon Well, bearing in mind that I liked every part of it except for his dress designs, which were horrible, long story short: his wife saves their marriage by repeatedly poisoning him with foraged mushrooms. Whether or not it makes it better, it makes it unexpected.
@RiotDemon I really liked “Parasite”, but was really unsure going in (this was back in November before most of the buzz). I couldn’t really tell much from the trailer, but had a couple of people who told me it was good.
If someone would have just told me that the title is strictly metaphorical, my fears would have been allayed. (I was afraid it was a horror flick, which it isn’t)
@RiotDemon Saw Parasite last night in Netflix. Very good, definitely better than the other choices for best picture that I’ve seen. Ford v Ferrari was a disappointment. They should have called it Ford v Ford.
@RiotDemon - Sorry to hear. Maybe I should have stressed that it’s David Lynch.
Many are trying to provide interpretations, but on the surface I just enjoyed what seemed like a hilarious parody of those gruff old-fashioned screen detective shows.
Anyway, you might enjoy one of the reviews more than the film:
@kdemo no idea who David Lynch is. I spent a lot of time analyzing the video. At first the mouth of the monkey really threw me off, but then I spent the next few minutes wondering if it was the other actor that they just used to voice the monkey. I was trying to figure out because they sounded kind of like they could have been voiced by the same person and then I spent a lot of time analyzing the lips and the nose to see if it was the same guy that was sitting right across from him.
@RiotDemon - The detective is David Lynch himself, and most think the voice of the monkey is Lynch as well, so good analysis!
David Lynch made Twin Peaks, Dune, Blue Velvet, Eraserhead, The Elephant Man - many critically respected, controversial films.
Admittedly I haven’t seen most of them. I loved this one so much, I checked on some others and none were streaming free on Netflix or Prime.
Hoping they’ll become available, or I eventually feel like paying.
I know it’s not recent, but I’ve spent the last month watching almost every one of his films. Just a couple left (other than some early ones that I have little interest in.
Oddly enough, my favorite so far has been The Trouble With Harry. It’s weird and dark and hilarious. I’m not one to laugh out loud at almost anything, but this film had me reeling. So much so that I watched it twice the same week. And the score is incredible!
@mtb002 It’s hard to not employ anything from a previous adaptation though. I’m doing a study right now on The Letter and The Unfaithful, and although both are based on the play, there are some definite similarities between the two films. (I’m studying the music behind the two films, both scored by Max Steiner)
Guess I’ve seen far more Hitchcock films than I remember right now.
The ones that really stick in my mind tend to be some of the ultra-famous ones, and I’ve also seen them more than once: Rear Window North By Northwest Vertigo Psycho The Birds Suspicion The Man Who Knew Too Much Dial M For Murder
(There is a 3D version of this one. Which is interesting, because he used the 3D aspect to express vulerability as much as to show threat)
I think I first saw most of these on late-night tv while growing up. They were a treat.
I don’t know very much about filmmaking, but even as a know-nothing, I can see a little of the incredible craft in these films.
Supposedly, Hitch’s wife was deeply involved in the working out with him of the structure of the story and the ways the scenes were designed. There are some books about her role, on my reading list for “someday”. If that’s true, then I suppose she and some other regular collaborators ought to get at least a little of the credit for how good these are.
If some people are just born to be directors, I guess Hitchcock is one of them.
He was definitely born to be a director. I watched all the special features I could find (and even saw a colleague being interviewed!), and so many of them talk about how it was basically his calling in life.
It wasn’t any hidden fact that his wife was an important part of the film making, and she is given plenty of credit for the films and for her affect on his life in supporting him.
If you’d like a recommendation, check out The Trouble With Harry and Rope. Both are excellent and dark and humorous. I’m buying the soundtrack to The Trouble With Harry soon and just found a journal article on the score in a music theory journal. Should be interesting.
Went to see Little Women yesterday. Really, really good (within the context of being Little Women, which is… fine… as a book, I guess). It was a very frustrating experience for my mother, who could NOT hear most of what was said (a lot of similar voices talking over each other, speaking from off screen or an angle, etc). She had no problem at Knives Out, so she’s not suddenly deaf, but this movie was tough. She would have been totally lost with all the moving forwards and backwards through the story, except that we went to see a kind of terrible performance of the musical over the summer, and it was basically the same. In fact, I was really surprised at all of the discussion of the structure of the movie and whether or not it was hard to follow, because, again: it’s essentially the musical I saw, just without microphones sticking out awkwardly from bad wigs and a tragically off-key Laurie.
I realized partway through the movie that Amy was reminding me of Kim Catrall from certain angles, and then that Jo’s long hair looked kind of like Sarah Jessica Parker’s Sex and the City-era hair, and then that Beth looked very much like Cynthia Nixon, and that Meg kind of looked like whoever played the brunette (I never watched the show), and then that their characters kind of worked in parallel too, and it weirded me out. I started wondering if Sex and the City was based on Little Women.
I’ve just started seeing ads for this movie, and that meme has ruined it for me…
Every scene I see just makes me imagine him tripping-balls through the wilderness, calling the dog Chewie, going “pew-pew” at trees and sternly telling a beaver, “hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.”
If you like documentaries, I would recommend “The Pharmacist” on Netflix (it’s actually a 4-part docu-series). The film-makers had a wealth of background material unparalleled in most documentaries, because the primary subject recorded everything. Some of the events are so remarkable, you might dismiss them as “unrealistic” were you to seen them in a fictional movie.
(Spoiler alert for the people that still want to watch this)
I guess the ending tripped me up because it looped around (supposedly like the turns of a screw) but it left me confused. From what I read, the mom wasn’t cast until a year after everyone else so people are thinking those scenes were an after thought.
@RiotDemon So if we’re talking spoilers- the book left it up to the reader to decide whether the things that happened were real or products of a mind going insane. Yeah, I had to read it for a class. I got the same feeling with this movie. Did you notice the wallpaper in the credits? Are you familiar with The Yellow Wallpaper? Plus the crazy mom- that stuff can be genetic.
My favorite radio version of The Yellow Wallpaper starring Agnes Moorehead (Andora on Bewitched for us old folks:
@sammydog01 I have never heard of the yellow wallpaper. I left shortly after the credits started so I didn’t sit through all the wallpaper. I looked online before I left to make sure I didn’t miss anything.
The thing is, they shouldn’t of had that weird mannequin turn it’s head if we were to think she was going crazy. She wasn’t in the room and she didn’t see it’s head turned again.
I actually watched a lot of Bewitched when I was younger. I don’t remember who anyone is though.
I’m listening to the video, was the paper at the end on purpose you think?
I just saw it this morning, I really liked it ( admittedly it doesn’t take much for me to like a movie )what really Surprised me most, was the age of the audience…
I was the Youngest person there by like 15 years, and I’m 40…
…granted, counting me there were maybe 6 people there, and it was 10:55a on a Friday morning, that happened to be valentines day…
I have a had a pretty good run of liking most of the movies I have seen over the the past few months, but “Birds of Prey” was as outright dud in my book. I think if one goes with a mindset similar to seeing a kung fu move - the plot and characters only have to tenuously hold together well enough to get you from one fight scene to the other - the viewer would probably come away entertained.
I just got around to watching Joker. Not my cup of tea. I mean, I recognize the quality and nuance of JP’s performance, and I usually like dark, but this story line didn’t do it for me. At least it only cost me 90 cents with a BOGO rental offer at Redbox.
@macromeh I liked “Joker”, but I would have a hard time recommending it unless I knew the person’s tastes pretty well. Probably about half the best picture nominees this year fell into this category. When most people say, “You would like it”, what they actually mean is “I liked it”. I try to be more pointed with recommendations, whether it be something with a pretty broad appeal, or tailoring the suggestion to an individual person.
Sonic the Hedgehog. Saw it Friday. Most of it was funny. Parts were so stupid/ over the top they were funny (kinda like how I think of the entire movie Spaceballs). I liked it more than I thought I would.
Have a Fandango credit for a movie to use by the end of the month (from a blood drive). Had planned to go see the new Star Wars movie, but it’s gone now. I guess I’ll check this thread a few more times before I go to use it this week since I will be working evenings the following week and local matinees aren’t out in time at this time of year.
@chienfou looking at the available options for time and date (matinee when I can drive the 35 miles into where the movie theater is while my wife is already going to town…) looks like it’s gonna be Downhill
Wish me luck?
@tinamarie1974 OK… here goes… it was… OK.
I was expecting more of a comedy due to the cast list, but although funny in parts, overall it was more of a drama. Not a bad story line, though the characters could have used a bit more fleshing out of their backstories (but that’s hard to do in a 90 minute film…) Bottom line… glad I only paid for one (matinee priced) ticket for SWMBO. Wish I had been able to use it to see something else, but daytime worked best and that was the one most likely to appeal to the missus.
That’s an astonishing film. Because of a great script, and great subject, and George C Scott, who so deserved his Oscar.
Patton died not that long after the German surrender? As a result of terrible injuries from a car crash in Germany.
I think there are some conspiracy theories that the Soviets did it or hand a hand in it. Dunno if that theory is just nuts or is possibly real.
But the Soviets might have. They did plenty of stuff like that; sometimes the modern Russian organizations that replaced the old Soviet agencies have organized assassinations of various troublesome individuals kinda recently. Whatever they think they can get away with and then deny or blame on a rogue operation …
We thought it was very good, tremendously well-acted, cleverly written, and very thought-provoking, and there were many comic moments.
It was also very emotionally upsetting [we were quite verklempt at several points in the film].
Not quite what we were expecting, having not read anything about it and with our only pre-knowledge being having seen the trailer a few times, and that Will Ferrell and Julia Louis Dreyfus were the leads.
It is NOT really a comedy, although there were a few mildly humorous scenes/points during it- in general see the spoiler alert above.
Terminator: Dark Fate
Classic Terminator fare- it was pretty much what we expected, thoroughly enjoyed, and paid for, but we did experience some confusion about an early plot point, and and a couple of eventual unknown/unrevealed relationship plot points that strained even MY legendary ability to suspend disbelief in order to enjoy Sci-Fi movies, books, etc.
When did Sarah Connor actually succeed in preventing “Judgement Day” by defeating Skynet’s eventual development?
There was a flashback at some point early on, showing a young T-800 [the Ahnold version] attacking and killing John Connor- after Sarah and John had defeated Skynet, etc…
IDK if this was supposed to be a different timeline or alternate universe, or what because the kid killed was younger than the T3 protagonist…
…And with Skynet defeated, just what are the odds that another different evil humanity-hating AI would develop and decimate humanity, causing another Terminator-series [Rev-9] to be sent to the past to kill a pivotal human who threatens its existence?
Come to Daddy
Not one we had really heard of, but we had a dolla-off new releases that night [every Tuesday, Row-8 channel on Roku], and the trailer looked… … interesting.
Starring Elijah Wood, Steven McHatty, and assorted other players.
It wasinteresting… very graphically violent, slightly darkly humorous once or twice, but mainly horrifyingly gritty and violent, but weirdly, none of felt the least bit gratuitous, and despite not really having any likeable characters, and more than a few unpredicted/able plot twists, it kept us engaged and enthralled throughout.
Graphically, horrendously, gritty and violent.