Australian dollars are worth less than US dollars, BUT even working through the exchange rate, they still have a higher minimum wage. But then, they also have a much smaller percentage of lunatic me-firsters in their population, too.
@werehatrack Australia also has free universal public healthcare paid for through a 2% income tax.
So that minimum wage goes a lot further than the private healthcare clusterfuck system we have here where that minimum wage job offers no healthcare benefit.
@replicacobra@werehatrack
Australia also has similar immigration bigotry issues, except it deports all of its undocumented refugees to one of its offshore islands (like the US Guantanamo facility, and The Former Guy shipping them off to random facilities regularly, playing whack-a-mole with them accessing legal help in the system and splitting up families, like the slave traders did in the U.S.) and dumps them there, like an island prison. Which is odd, because that’s exactly what Australia was for the british - a penal colony where the Crown shipped off their political and otherwise convicts.
From Wikipedia:
Australian immigration detention facilities comprise a number of different facilities throughout Australia (including one on the Australian territory of Christmas Island). They are currently used to detain people who are under Australia’s policy of mandatory immigration detention. Asylum seekers detected in boats in Australian waters have been detained in facilities on the offshore islands of Nauru and Manus Island, previously under the now defunct Pacific Solution and (since 2013 and as of March 2019) under Operation Sovereign Borders.
The facilities’ existence has been condemned on human rights grounds and have even been likened to concentration camps by some critics.
Does Australia (unlike the US) still substantially subsidize their public university costs to students?
(so that higher education is not a lifelong “no savings, no wealth” lottery)
If they have that in addition to a nationwide UK style medical care system then wages will go further
I remember (as a v young child) when lower-middle-class, and often working-class families (and sometimes even poor families), could work up the $ to pay for public university or college for the kids, tho it was often tough.
My father’s parents were so poor that they could only afford to purchase 2 pairs of shoes for each child for each grade school year (one sports, one normal or dress). But, in the 1930s-1940s they put both kids thru college.
(don’t know the $ details)
Both kids did work part time on weekends. But that was for personal spending $.
And so kids graduated or left college/uni without 50K plus in debt.
At some point the legislatures figured out they didn’t need to fund public colleges and unis being some absorb minimum, when the student could just borrow everything.
And at some point the schools figured out that they could raise their costs without limit, since the students could just borrow more.
Many of the increased costs had no benefit to undergraduates. The schools use student loans from undergraduates in order to embark upon expensive projects and partnerships to enhance their school prestige, and thereby also justify sky high salaries for top admins and famous profs.
And the students are hostages to this process. Because we supposedly need higher Ed to have decent careers.
About all those fancy huge endowments at some schools have: I hear from friends in the investment business and the law business that those endowments are never spent on students.
Those funds are normally basically hedge funds with the connection to the University.
The funds are there for the bragging rights in the prestige they’re not there to benefit students and they’re not there to be spent
@ShotgunX@Weboh Sure it does. It works in downsizing, er “right-sizing” too.
5 people on a team, cut one position and presto, 20% productivity increase from the remaining 4 people that still have to do the work of 5 - and a 20% FTE cost savings. It’s like magic!
The average hourly rate for Australian workers is equivalent to a bit over US$30. Their MINIMUM wage is US$14.84. To equal that in the sign above, you have to basically sign your life away to the boss, and you still might not get medical insurance, much less Australian levels of sick days and PTO.
@werehatrack You can thank the CEOs of major US corporations, especially manufacturing that sold your job overseas to the global race-to-the-bottom competing against 2B Chinese looking for those same jobs and willing to be sold into slavery by their government.
Australian dollars are worth less than US dollars, BUT even working through the exchange rate, they still have a higher minimum wage. But then, they also have a much smaller percentage of lunatic me-firsters in their population, too.
@werehatrack Australia also has free universal public healthcare paid for through a 2% income tax.
So that minimum wage goes a lot further than the private healthcare clusterfuck system we have here where that minimum wage job offers no healthcare benefit.
@mike808 @werehatrack
Australia takes half
Median income for its
Poverty line rate
The United States
Is decoupled but its rate
Closer to one fifth
@replicacobra @werehatrack
Australia also has similar immigration bigotry issues, except it deports all of its undocumented refugees to one of its offshore islands (like the US Guantanamo facility, and The Former Guy shipping them off to random facilities regularly, playing whack-a-mole with them accessing legal help in the system and splitting up families, like the slave traders did in the U.S.) and dumps them there, like an island prison. Which is odd, because that’s exactly what Australia was for the british - a penal colony where the Crown shipped off their political and otherwise convicts.
From Wikipedia:
@mike808 @replicacobra @werehatrack
Does Australia (unlike the US) still substantially subsidize their public university costs to students?
(so that higher education is not a lifelong “no savings, no wealth” lottery)
If they have that in addition to a nationwide UK style medical care system then wages will go further
I remember (as a v young child) when lower-middle-class, and often working-class families (and sometimes even poor families), could work up the $ to pay for public university or college for the kids, tho it was often tough.
My father’s parents were so poor that they could only afford to purchase 2 pairs of shoes for each child for each grade school year (one sports, one normal or dress). But, in the 1930s-1940s they put both kids thru college.
(don’t know the $ details)
Both kids did work part time on weekends. But that was for personal spending $.
And so kids graduated or left college/uni without 50K plus in debt.
At some point the legislatures figured out they didn’t need to fund public colleges and unis being some absorb minimum, when the student could just borrow everything.
And at some point the schools figured out that they could raise their costs without limit, since the students could just borrow more.
Many of the increased costs had no benefit to undergraduates. The schools use student loans from undergraduates in order to embark upon expensive projects and partnerships to enhance their school prestige, and thereby also justify sky high salaries for top admins and famous profs.
And the students are hostages to this process. Because we supposedly need higher Ed to have decent careers.
About all those fancy huge endowments at some schools have: I hear from friends in the investment business and the law business that those endowments are never spent on students.
Those funds are normally basically hedge funds with the connection to the University.
The funds are there for the bragging rights in the prestige they’re not there to benefit students and they’re not there to be spent
Some schools do deviate from this to a degree
So what, would everybody start out at $9 and then in a week/month they would evaluate you and tell you how much your worth lol
$12 for working like two people?
The only job I’d agree to work under such a stipulation is beer taster.
@ShotgunX Yeah, seems odd to openly state that you have to work like two people to get paid the same as 1.3 people. Math doesn’t add up.
@ShotgunX @Weboh Sure it does. It works in downsizing, er “right-sizing” too.
5 people on a team, cut one position and presto, 20% productivity increase from the remaining 4 people that still have to do the work of 5 - and a 20% FTE cost savings. It’s like magic!
The average hourly rate for Australian workers is equivalent to a bit over US$30. Their MINIMUM wage is US$14.84. To equal that in the sign above, you have to basically sign your life away to the boss, and you still might not get medical insurance, much less Australian levels of sick days and PTO.
We’re getting hosed.
@werehatrack You can thank the CEOs of major US corporations, especially manufacturing that sold your job overseas to the global race-to-the-bottom competing against 2B Chinese looking for those same jobs and willing to be sold into slavery by their government.
And their need to be greedy fucks.
@mike808 @werehatrack
Outsourcing’s specter
The insidious goblin
Is automation