@saodell I know I just keep staring at it saying to myself "I don't need this. I don't need this" but the reviews on Home depot are really positive & ... & I don't have a sander? I kinda think I need this.
Ok Meh! I'm sold! The thought that it might help me break a bolt in a tight spot was my selling point. I have to say though I'm not thrilled about the color. I mean... doesn't it come in purple?
I do the same thing. I did it with the tuner and bought that yesterday. I'm trying to not buy today, because I rarely say to myself, "I could use a power tool right now" @march5th00
@gwrankin once you have a decent power tool you start looking at pretty normal everyday problems and begin thinking to yourself "I could use a power tool right now."
@narfcake But does it have high and low settings? If not, then you get decent torque at relatively low RPM, or less torque at higher RPM. 12V tools are OK for casual use around the house, and a right angle drill can come in handy. But 1.3 A*h per battery is not a lot of run time if you are dogging the tool.
@KingMel Careful with that generalization. More & more I'm seeing other trades show up with 12V drills. Getting rid of a couple of pounds on your belt & the far end of your arm all day is worth needing a few more seconds to poke a hole!
I have never heard of "Neo." This makes me feel better for using cheap Craftsman. I sometimes get embarrassed by my power tools when someone next to me comes in with something like a DeWalt. Thanks, Meh! Maybe someone will bring a Neo!
@Cagny Craftsman power tools are OK. They are often made by B&D...sometimes by others. In independent testing they generally end up mid-pack for a mid-range price. But Craftsman hand tools? I swore off of them in the early late 1990s after Sears started the low-end Companion brand and then completely devalued the Craftsman brand by offshoring manufacturing to China. I experience new wrenches rusting in my toolbox while hand-me-downs from my father (easily five decades old) were untouched by rust. Cheaper alloys and very poor plating. Just warning you that the Craftsman brand name is not what it used to be.
Funny that HD is the price comp link and pretty much the only place this is for sale online... it has some great reviews there but doesn't offer any benefits to me.
@belowi Worth noting that every single one of those reviews are from people in the HD "Seeds Program", which is their version of Amazon Vine. Meaning that all of those reviewers got the product for free so they'd write a review.
10 reviews, 4 star average. Typically on pretty good stuff, you see mostly 5s, then that one 1 from the dolt who didn't know what he was getting and can't read instructions. These were all 3 and above, though
@vlpronj "but I've still never heard of the line" When you don't know the line there's a 99% chance it's made in China, by the same people who make formerly well regarded brands (think, current Black and Decker, Westinghouse, Polaroid, etc). They're not necessarily bad buys as long as you go in knowing that the primary reason they exist is to be cheap. It's like Harbor Freight... no one goes there to find a finely crafted tool that they will hand down to their kids; they go there because they can buy ten of them that will last a couple years each for the same price as a high quality tool.
Reviews at homedepot.com are very solid! Basically, as long as you're using this for small jobs and realize it isn't an 18v powerhouse, it's a great tool.
@TBoneZeOriginal Because all of the reviewers got it for free from Home Depot's Seeds Program, as is evidenced by the "Seeds Member" badge by each of their reviews.
You are right on point. I am a Seeds reviewer for Home Depot and, despite what you read on their web site, we are discouraged from posting unfavorable reviews. The coercion is subtle, like "We are sorry but your review is rejected, please post again". But when asked about why it was rejected, we get no answer. Our ability to continue in the program and get the free products is directly linked to the review rate (75% of products received minimum) and indirectly linked to the rejection rate, and so we either fold with the review and "clean it up" or get kicked out. No kidding. I have read many reviews of fellow Seeds members and it is obvious to me that at least 50% are just fabricated with no real experience with the product.
@BrentD I wish I could try this tool. I have not seen it at Home Depot. Also, I do not remember it on Seeds- Could have missed it though, since these kinds of tools get taken up quickly. As for Seeds reviews, I have written some pretty negative ones on things and never had one rejected for that reason, except for one thing that I said I would not use. I was given the explanation that we are asked to write about our experience actually using the product. I re-installed it and gave it a bad review, which was posted. Other customers asked me if the defect was fixed and I said not to my knowledge. Other reviewers said they have had the same experience, and I have never seen it sold in the store. So when I want know about something before I buy it, I read the reviews. You can tell who is the most knowledgeable by the details that are offered, as well as what it may be like for someone who is less professional to use it. Both are good to know.
@robson ... Which is only an extra $127.33 once we sign you up for our super-duper fermented finger protector and a three year subscription to 'Can Do' our in-house DIY reader (with lots of ads).. But wait! there's more, hey!.. don't hang up, I've got more.....
A 12 volt power tool just doesn't cut it for most jobs. Not enough torque for much other than drilling a hole in soft wood or some light-duty sanding. Don't expect to build a new deck with these.
@ruouttaurmind thanks for mentioning this. I was about to pull the trigger, but you convinced me otherwise. No point in getting one multi-tool not powerful enough when I have more powerful single purpose tools. The gadget geek in me had a hard time walking away from the this though. I just kept thinking "wow think of how many Bluetooth keyboard cases I could saw in half with this!"
@ruouttaurmind Deck building isn't something most folks do on a regular basis. Drilling a small pilot hole for lag bolting a TV mount? That's more typical, and a 12v can more than handle such a job.
@narfcake I concur. I commented for the sake of those folks that might think "Hey, just imagine all the cool stuff I'll be able to build with those..."
@ruouttaurmind It's an awesome tool for a landlord, though. I have a full woodshop, but when I'm on my way to a tenant's house the goal is to pack as much versatility into as small a package as possible. Because once you're there and fixing the leaky sink they remember tons of other little things that they forgot to mention, and going back and forth to get the right tools is a losing game.
@mcosby Sure, this is a highly portable kit for odd jobs. Minor repairs, a little drilling, scraping, or sanding...this tool will probably be fine. And the right angle handle could come in handy for tight spaces. Personally, however, I don't need another battery-powered tool that I need to charge whenever I want to use it.
@ruouttaurmind I can't speak for this tool, but I see a lot of trades (myself included) swinging 12V drills all day long on commercial sites. They're not the pathetic toys that they used to be.
@Azlehria Fair enough. I replaced my 12v Milwaukee with a 18v DeWalt a couple years ago and the difference was like apples and oranges. SO much more torque in the 18v drill. But I admit, the 12v Milaukee was about five or six years old (with a recent new battery). I suppose technology may have improved during that time.
Those are pretty happy reviews, but only a 90 day Neo warranty? Not real confidence inspiring for a pretty much unknown "tool" company that wants to be taken seriously. Strangely, it appears to have a 1-year warranty at Home Depot... with a 90-day return policy. Odd.
@RedOak They're probably dumping excess inventory, and they're reducing the warranty so they can offer it at a lower price. Warranties are considered long-term liabilities. If you shorten the warranty, you can sell the item for a lower cost and still make a profit. That's why most refurbs have short warranties...it isn't because they're expecting them to fail any sooner than a new unit.
@RedOak The warranty at Home Depot isn't the greatest either, since reviews for the manufacturer's other products I've found have complained that they don't respond to calls or emails about faulty merchandise.
@ChunkyBitz while reducing the warranty is a way to reduce the Cost of Goods Sold, it is an odd way to sell a still new product. And it certainly is not a way to build a brand. So, while it does not necessarily mean these will fail sooner, it does not say much about confidence either.
actually, I didn't pick up on that until later. Seemed odd that there wasn't the inevitable 1 star review, but I didn't put 2 and 2 together, or, in this case, 5 (stars) and 5 (stars) together
we recently moved to a new-to-us house... cable guy was installing some coax etc. as he was leaving i noticed a dewalt drill laying in my floor. i said 'hey, did you get your drill' and he said 'yep, we got it, thanks'
so for the next few weeks i had been thinking i some how got a free dewalt drill. only problem is... no charger. i called my dad, he said he may have an extra charger for it at his work... so i wait a week, remind him, wait another week... nada.
i went to lowes etc, and those bitches want like $100 for a charger. so i placed my order on ebay, ~$30 or so. it arrived, worked perfectly. i finally had my free drill up and running... and then my parents stopped by that weekend. i said 'hey pops, dont worry about that charger, i ordered one off ebay.' my pops responded 'show me that drill you got for free' i grab it from the garage, hand it to him. i hear his wife say 'that looks just like the drill you lost at home'
oh yeah... it turns out my dad some how left his drill at my house prior to us officially moving in (maybe the day we replaced all of the locks etc) and hes been helping me find a charger for his own drill. he usually burns his initials into all his tools, but there weren't any on the drill.
so now i have a dewalt drill battery charger. and that's the story of why i purchased today's meh.
@narfcake ... Sounds righteous but I'm confused by the so-called 'lifetime' guarantee: "We guarantee our Hand Tools to be free from defects in material and workmanship for the life of the product.. What does that mean? When the thing breaks that's it's lifetime? But even more confusing is it's final disclaimer: Limitations apply.. To what? Using it out of the box?
@derpandabar The HF tool isn't the same product at all, but just to compare what a "one function" tool would run for. HF power tools are pretty meh too, and their 90-day warranty is indicative that it may or may not be all that good.
@unkabob Their hand tools have a lifetime warranty, but the power tools do not. I've found them to be more lenient that Sears when it comes to replacing broken items. It's not like Craftsman is all made in the USA these days anyway, so why pay triple the price of HF?
I clicked on the meh button and it kept on spinning and spinning. I thought maybe there's a problem with my internet connection, then I thought, "wow, very clever, meh." Then I reloaded the page and it had screw-head eyes.
In case you were curious - I own the Ridgid multi-tool kit (both 12v and corded, but not the newer 18v). Ryobi claims that their power unit is compatible with the Ridgid accessories so I was hoping maybe these were too, since $58 for 4 accessory heads is a steal given that they sell for $50-60 each at home depot.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any info about it online and based on the one good pic of the power head (side view, labeled "What's Included") it's not the same. The Ridgid has buttons on the side and the "is an accessory connected" cut-off button is offset from the center on the Ridgid (it's in the very center top on the NEO)
@mcosby I was wondering the same thing, don't currently own a Ridgid or Ryobi kit, but I've been considering picking one up. Comparing the NEO to the Ryobi from pictures online is enough for me to pull the trigger on the NEO. Then I'll take one of the heads into Home Depot and try it out on a Ryobi or Ridgid tool and see if it works. If it doesn't, I still have a somewhat functional kit, hopefully...
@mcosby Did you get to try the Neo heads with a Rigid or Ryobi base unit? Do they fit? I too have both a Rigid 12V and Ryobi 18V base and like a cheaper alternative to the $40 or more heads at HomeDepot
12V Lithium powered tools behave differently from 12V nicad or nimh tools, maybe due to battery chemistry or design, but they seem to be plenty powerful for general use. I have a 12V set from Rockwell that includes a drill/impact driver that is plenty powerful for everything I've thrown at it and an oscillating tool/sander similar to the one head of this device. Using the oscillating tool as a saw will drain the battery very quickly while the drill seems to run for a long time.
Considering this because the aforementioned drill has a 1/4 hex instead of a chuck and isn't a right angle drill, and the electric ratchet might be nice in open areas. The cutter looks like it might be neat too. But the oscillating tool has a potentially huge downside: if the speed is controlled by squeezing the trigger, you have to hold the tool a certain way and keep the correct pressure on the trigger. Many oscillating tools have a separate speed dial and an on/off switch so that you can dial in the speed for the job you're doing and hold the tool however you need to get it in place to do the work. The saw blades, for example, are very sensitive to speed depending on what you're cutting.
The company that sells these is called "Royal Line," not "Neo," http://royallinellc.com. They don't seem to currently sell this or any other tools, but they do carry a $2,600 toilet/bidet combo. Probably no chance of getting parts or warranty service from them. But at this price, it seems worth the risk.
I hope this works better than the Cobra power inverter I bought in December. It was defective. If this neo works, it should be handy for small cos and sanding. What sold me on our, it comes with 2 batteries, and I was going to buy a multi function tool for stripping paint off of metal yard furniture.
I have a lot of tools. Problem is they keep migrating from my shop to the house every time I have a little fix-it issue. I've been working on building a set of lighter weight tools that can stay in the laundry room and not affect my ability to find the tools I need while fixing real things out in the shop. This is just the little thing I need to stop carrying, (and then leaving) several grease and sawdust covered tools into my house. This might save my sanity and my marriage! Thank you, meh... if that is your real name.
Bought this for the right angle drill, more than anything else. I'll keep the set in my satellite/cold weather workshop (basement). Used the drill last night. It made holes (1/8" - my bit). Threatened the kids with it. They were unimpressed.
@psamp55 Patience, grasshopper. They really are overloaded. There are 2 of them and about a billion emails. They will get to you as soon as they possibly can.
But they aren't the ones handling the warranty on this - you might have better luck contacting NEO, since they're handling the warranty on these. This is their Contact Page.
I have not tried it but tested out the connections, everything seems like it will work. I do not think higher voltage batteries would be better, since it would make this tool too big and cumbersome. The appeal, an all in one cordless portable set for minor drilling, socket wrench, sanding and scraping. The sander, I hope, will work, it was a main interest but the triangle head holds the paper by frictions and directions say to keep it upright when using, which if true, will make it useless because sanding requires lots of angles. Also, I thought it came with a small circular saw suitable for minor cuts and trims. Disappointingly, it is not a saw, it is an electric mat knife for cutting "carpet," "plastic," and "cardboard". Sounds incredibly useless but maybe handy for ripping down boxes to go into recycle bins but a regular mat knife is probably a lot better. Maybe, I'll try it for opening things bought incased in indestructible clam shells, the fun might outweigh the damage to the products due to inevitable over cuts. After a few paces in the filed, I will provide updates
@joejoebells The instruction manual says you should charge and discharge the battery 4-5 times for optimal life. Is this worth it or not really necessary? I thought Li-Ion batteries didn't need to do this.
@joejoebells the cutting wheel is what makes this kit unique - that’s not what I bought the kit for, but the cutting wheel turned out to be an asset - it did a good job on cutting carpet and great for cutting sheets of ABS and PVC.
Mine was defective. Meh will not stand behind it. Royal Line will not reply to emails or phone messages. I filed a dispute with my bank to get my money back. Too bad, I like Meh and I liked the product until it broke (about an hour of light duty). I'm not into paying for stuff that does not work, however, and will not transact with Meh again.
Used mine today on a heavy duty dock float repair job. The ratchet attachment -rocked- great torque, made easy prey of rusted tap screws and was great for attaching new bolts. Angled drill saved us in a pinch too. Others on the job were also impressed with this kit. No problems w battery life. You get 2. Keep one on the charger and rotate. Great buy, thanks Meh! Sell these again!
Bought it at Costco for $100 - product was discontinued and marked down from about $140 so I grabbed it. Overall decent quality, great for storing in car and doing odd jobs.
@Yoda_Daenerys maybe a long shot but those batteries look to be very similar to my Rockwell 12v drill batteries. A charger like this might work. Study pictures of the charger and Rockwell or Worx batteries compared to your battery and see if it’s worth a shot.
Specs
Model: NEO RL1818
Power: 12 Volt
Charger time: 1 hour
Charger power: 120 volts
Batteries: 2x 12V 1.3Ah Li-Ion batteries
Weight: 3lb
Includes right-angle drill head, multi-cutter head, wrench ratchet head, and multi-function head
Drill head
Multi-function head
Ratchet wrench head
Multi-cutter head
Condition: New
Warranty: 90 Day NEO
Estimated Delivery: 3/2 - 3/4
Shipping: $5 or free with VMP
What’s in the Box?
1x Multi-head tool
1x Multi-function head
1x Right angle drill head
1x Wrench ratchet head
1x Multi cutter head
1x Sanding pad
3x Sanding sheets
1x Scraping blade
1x Straight saw blade
1x Screwdriver bit
5x HSS drill bits
6x CRV 25mm driver bits
2x Sockets
1x Hex key
2x 12v battery packs
1x Charging adapter
1x Charging cradle
1x Kit bag
1x Instruction manual
Pictures
Retail box
All of the possibilities
Hand for scale
Travel bag
Travel bag open
What’s included
How’s your new year’s resolution going?
Price Check
$149.99 at Home Depot
Warranty
90 days
Lithium-Meh
@mortonfox why is lithium a negative?
@belowi it's not . it's positive right above sodium
@Dzung yeah, chlorine likes to be negative.
@lumpthar @dzung and to think I almost wrote "a bad thing" instead of "a negative". Life is all about choices I guess.
Right handed or left handed, but what about baby-arm? I NEED to know!!!
I feel like this would be handy for work, except the battery stick is pretty freaking long... would be awkward or impossible to use in tight places.
@VeeDubTDI That's what she said.
@sourhead Haaay!
How would a goat use these?
@eeterrific With his goatee.
@juststephen what if he cant goatsee?
@Froggy Then let the goat free.
From the small preview, it looks like the sanding head is a clothes iron.
@etiRkca Perfect for sanding rough fabric...
@juststephen I've used carded open-ended t-shirts as sandpaper-on-plastic before.
12 volts won't go far, but for little jobs this is a pretty neat tool. Would bite if I didn't have bigger versions of all of those things.
@march5th00 I have some Ridgid 12 volt tools and the batteries will surprise you.
@march5th00 kinda same here, but that one review about the power cutter and chopping up boxes for recycling is making me think about it.
@saodell I know I just keep staring at it saying to myself "I don't need this. I don't need this" but the reviews on Home depot are really positive & ... & I don't have a sander? I kinda think I need this.
@saodell
That does sound fun!
Ok Meh! I'm sold! The thought that it might help me break a bolt in a tight spot was my selling point. I have to say though I'm not thrilled about the color. I mean... doesn't it come in purple?
I do the same thing. I did it with the tuner and bought that yesterday. I'm trying to not buy today, because I rarely say to myself, "I could use a power tool right now" @march5th00
@march5th00 I hate purple.
@gwrankin once you have a decent power tool you start looking at pretty normal everyday problems and begin thinking to yourself "I could use a power tool right now."
@march5th00 "when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail"
@march5th00 y
14Nm is pretty hefty for the ratchet considering the device its in
@CrossIT Gear reduction can do that. 14 N/m is about 10 ft.lbs., so it's about a reasonably safe limit with a 1/4" drive anyway.
@narfcake But does it have high and low settings? If not, then you get decent torque at relatively low RPM, or less torque at higher RPM. 12V tools are OK for casual use around the house, and a right angle drill can come in handy. But 1.3 A*h per battery is not a lot of run time if you are dogging the tool.
@KingMel Careful with that generalization. More & more I'm seeing other trades show up with 12V drills. Getting rid of a couple of pounds on your belt & the far end of your arm all day is worth needing a few more seconds to poke a hole!
Where's the baby arm?
@SteveOOO It's not baby arm compatible.
I have never heard of "Neo." This makes me feel better for using cheap Craftsman. I sometimes get embarrassed by my power tools when someone next to me comes in with something like a DeWalt. Thanks, Meh! Maybe someone will bring a Neo!
@Cagny Craftsman power tools are OK. They are often made by B&D...sometimes by others. In independent testing they generally end up mid-pack for a mid-range price. But Craftsman hand tools? I swore off of them in the early late 1990s after Sears started the low-end Companion brand and then completely devalued the Craftsman brand by offshoring manufacturing to China. I experience new wrenches rusting in my toolbox while hand-me-downs from my father (easily five decades old) were untouched by rust. Cheaper alloys and very poor plating. Just warning you that the Craftsman brand name is not what it used to be.
Sign me up for some multi head
Funny that HD is the price comp link and pretty much the only place this is for sale online... it has some great reviews there but doesn't offer any benefits to me.
@belowi Worth noting that every single one of those reviews are from people in the HD "Seeds Program", which is their version of Amazon Vine. Meaning that all of those reviewers got the product for free so they'd write a review.
10 reviews, 4 star average. Typically on pretty good stuff, you see mostly 5s, then that one 1 from the dolt who didn't know what he was getting and can't read instructions. These were all 3 and above, though
@saodell Well, it does seem like they all got it for free, as part of the "Seeds program... http://www.homedepot.com/c/webapp/catalog/servlet/ContentView?pn=home_depot_seeds_program&storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053 ...And most reviews are from this past fall, but I've still never heard of the line - makes me a little leery. But bring this back on Tuesday at 2 for $58, and I'll have 4 batteries charged and ready. My wife can't possibly be upset with me about that!
@vlpronj Good catch. The Amazon virus has leaked on Home Depot.
@vlpronj "but I've still never heard of the line" When you don't know the line there's a 99% chance it's made in China, by the same people who make formerly well regarded brands (think, current Black and Decker, Westinghouse, Polaroid, etc). They're not necessarily bad buys as long as you go in knowing that the primary reason they exist is to be cheap. It's like Harbor Freight... no one goes there to find a finely crafted tool that they will hand down to their kids; they go there because they can buy ten of them that will last a couple years each for the same price as a high quality tool.
Reviews at homedepot.com are very solid! Basically, as long as you're using this for small jobs and realize it isn't an 18v powerhouse, it's a great tool.
In for 1!
@TBoneZeOriginal Because all of the reviewers got it for free from Home Depot's Seeds Program, as is evidenced by the "Seeds Member" badge by each of their reviews.
@BrentD
You are right on point. I am a Seeds reviewer for Home Depot and, despite what you read on their web site, we are discouraged from posting unfavorable reviews. The coercion is subtle, like "We are sorry but your review is rejected, please post again". But when asked about why it was rejected, we get no answer. Our ability to continue in the program and get the free products is directly linked to the review rate (75% of products received minimum) and indirectly linked to the rejection rate, and so we either fold with the review and "clean it up" or get kicked out. No kidding. I have read many reviews of fellow Seeds members and it is obvious to me that at least 50% are just fabricated with no real experience with the product.
@BrentD I wish I could try this tool. I have not seen it at Home Depot. Also, I do not remember it on Seeds- Could have missed it though, since these kinds of tools get taken up quickly. As for Seeds reviews, I have written some pretty negative ones on things and never had one rejected for that reason, except for one thing that I said I would not use. I was given the explanation that we are asked to write about our experience actually using the product. I re-installed it and gave it a bad review, which was posted. Other customers asked me if the defect was fixed and I said not to my knowledge. Other reviewers said they have had the same experience, and I have never seen it sold in the store. So when I want know about something before I buy it, I read the reviews. You can tell who is the most knowledgeable by the details that are offered, as well as what it may be like for someone who is less professional to use it. Both are good to know.
As seen on TV... But wait, there's more! For the incredibly low price of $58, we'll send you two complete sets, you pay only shipping and handling!
@robson ... Which is only an extra $127.33 once we sign you up for our super-duper fermented finger protector and a three year subscription to 'Can Do' our in-house DIY reader (with lots of ads).. But wait! there's more, hey!.. don't hang up, I've got more.....
@unkabob You're gonna love my nuts!
A 12 volt power tool just doesn't cut it for most jobs. Not enough torque for much other than drilling a hole in soft wood or some light-duty sanding. Don't expect to build a new deck with these.
@ruouttaurmind thanks for mentioning this. I was about to pull the trigger, but you convinced me otherwise. No point in getting one multi-tool not powerful enough when I have more powerful single purpose tools. The gadget geek in me had a hard time walking away from the this though. I just kept thinking "wow think of how many Bluetooth keyboard cases I could saw in half with this!"
@ruouttaurmind Deck building isn't something most folks do on a regular basis. Drilling a small pilot hole for lag bolting a TV mount? That's more typical, and a 12v can more than handle such a job.
@narfcake I concur. I commented for the sake of those folks that might think "Hey, just imagine all the cool stuff I'll be able to build with those..."
@ruouttaurmind so basically someone like me. thanks again
@ruouttaurmind It's an awesome tool for a landlord, though. I have a full woodshop, but when I'm on my way to a tenant's house the goal is to pack as much versatility into as small a package as possible. Because once you're there and fixing the leaky sink they remember tons of other little things that they forgot to mention, and going back and forth to get the right tools is a losing game.
@mcosby I'm sorry, what was that about your small package again?
@triplebud That's what she... uh, nevermind.
@mcosby Sure, this is a highly portable kit for odd jobs. Minor repairs, a little drilling, scraping, or sanding...this tool will probably be fine. And the right angle handle could come in handy for tight spaces. Personally, however, I don't need another battery-powered tool that I need to charge whenever I want to use it.
@ruouttaurmind I can't speak for this tool, but I see a lot of trades (myself included) swinging 12V drills all day long on commercial sites. They're not the pathetic toys that they used to be.
@Azlehria Fair enough. I replaced my 12v Milwaukee with a 18v DeWalt a couple years ago and the difference was like apples and oranges. SO much more torque in the 18v drill. But I admit, the 12v Milaukee was about five or six years old (with a recent new battery). I suppose technology may have improved during that time.
Looks like I will be able to do some uninviting-gruesome-business with my new super dooper multi tool. Yippie!
@opiemeh the Neo multi-tool; now appearing in the sequel to Very Bad Things,Uninviting Gruesome Business
Those are pretty happy reviews, but only a 90 day Neo warranty? Not real confidence inspiring for a pretty much unknown "tool" company that wants to be taken seriously. Strangely, it appears to have a 1-year warranty at Home Depot... with a 90-day return policy. Odd.
@RedOak They're probably dumping excess inventory, and they're reducing the warranty so they can offer it at a lower price. Warranties are considered long-term liabilities. If you shorten the warranty, you can sell the item for a lower cost and still make a profit. That's why most refurbs have short warranties...it isn't because they're expecting them to fail any sooner than a new unit.
@RedOak The warranty at Home Depot isn't the greatest either, since reviews for the manufacturer's other products I've found have complained that they don't respond to calls or emails about faulty merchandise.
@ChunkyBitz while reducing the warranty is a way to reduce the Cost of Goods Sold, it is an odd way to sell a still new product. And it certainly is not a way to build a brand. So, while it does not necessarily mean these will fail sooner, it does not say much about confidence either.
@RedOak Pretty happy reviews because they all got it for free. Hence the "Seeds Member" badges next to all their reviews.
@BrentD yep, as pointed out by @saodell last nite.
actually, I didn't pick up on that until later. Seemed odd that there wasn't the inevitable 1 star review, but I didn't put 2 and 2 together, or, in this case, 5 (stars) and 5 (stars) together
we recently moved to a new-to-us house... cable guy was installing some coax etc. as he was leaving i noticed a dewalt drill laying in my floor. i said 'hey, did you get your drill' and he said 'yep, we got it, thanks'
so for the next few weeks i had been thinking i some how got a free dewalt drill. only problem is... no charger. i called my dad, he said he may have an extra charger for it at his work... so i wait a week, remind him, wait another week... nada.
i went to lowes etc, and those bitches want like $100 for a charger. so i placed my order on ebay, ~$30 or so. it arrived, worked perfectly. i finally had my free drill up and running... and then my parents stopped by that weekend. i said 'hey pops, dont worry about that charger, i ordered one off ebay.' my pops responded 'show me that drill you got for free' i grab it from the garage, hand it to him. i hear his wife say 'that looks just like the drill you lost at home'
oh yeah... it turns out my dad some how left his drill at my house prior to us officially moving in (maybe the day we replaced all of the locks etc) and hes been helping me find a charger for his own drill. he usually burns his initials into all his tools, but there weren't any on the drill.
so now i have a dewalt drill battery charger.
and that's the story of why i purchased today's meh.
@outz I read the whole damn post........only to end in meh
@outz Give him the charger you bought for his birthday
@outz There's a lesson in there. Hopefully it is not "lost".
@outz you should smash your dad in the face with the battery charger. Only option I see here.
tl;dr @outz is starting a battery charger collection
Not getting much of a charge out of this one.
Is NEO like the TOCCs of tools?
Can they cut through a keyboard case hinge?
A 12v oscillating tool at Harbor Freight is $39, but it only has one battery. For an extra $19, this is a good deal.
@narfcake ... Sounds righteous but I'm confused by the so-called 'lifetime' guarantee: "We guarantee our Hand Tools to be free from defects in material and workmanship for the life of the product.. What does that mean? When the thing breaks that's it's lifetime? But even more confusing is it's final disclaimer: Limitations apply.. To what? Using it out of the box?
@narfcake actually I might be reading that wrong, but it also looks like the one at harbor freight only includes one head, others sold separately.
@derpandabar The HF tool isn't the same product at all, but just to compare what a "one function" tool would run for. HF power tools are pretty meh too, and their 90-day warranty is indicative that it may or may not be all that good.
@unkabob Their hand tools have a lifetime warranty, but the power tools do not. I've found them to be more lenient that Sears when it comes to replacing broken items. It's not like Craftsman is all made in the USA these days anyway, so why pay triple the price of HF?
This east-coaster stayed up past midnight on Valentine's Day only to be disappointed. Just like real life. :-/
@lumpthar No kidding, I was hoping for a speaker dock at least.
permanent-lightening-orc
Good for odd little jobs around the apartment. In for 1.
what's the max rotate speed?
@emersonxsu Meh.
@emersonxsu someone else mentioned 400 RPM
@emersonxsu Your mom.
I clicked on the meh button and it kept on spinning and spinning. I thought maybe there's a problem with my internet connection, then I thought, "wow, very clever, meh." Then I reloaded the page and it had screw-head eyes.
oh hey, I found an amazon link! http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Cordless-Ratchet-Cutter-Scraper/dp/B00ISA6NIM $134.39
no reviews though.
@pyip001 someone from meh probably selling theirs.
@pyip001 more fun links! I found a slightly-differently-branded version of a similar set at Woodcraft: http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/154311/puly-12v-max-power--right-angle-drill-and-multitool-combo.aspx $44.98, but doesn't seem to come with as many attachments. It is a "PUD" or "PULY", I can't tell from the picture.
@pyip001 And also an "Ozito" http://www.ozito.com.au/mtc-0123 with technical specs, @emersonxsu: 0-15000rpm no load speed. Drill is 0-400rpm, ratched 0-200rpm. And here's the manual: http://cdn1.blocksassets.com/assets/ozito/ozito-product-manuals/u87WILA9N1D2B7A/MTC-0123-Manual.pdf
@pyip001 and I'm going to reply to myself one more time for fun.
@pyip001 Ok, one more. Review of PULY tool (rebranded Neo) on Amazon has 3 reviews, 3.7 stars. http://www.amazon.com/PULY-12V-MAX-POWER-Multi-Tool/product-reviews/B009VDQ1B4
Finally, the funny picture came up. I thought I was on Woot for a minute there.
In case you were curious - I own the Ridgid multi-tool kit (both 12v and corded, but not the newer 18v). Ryobi claims that their power unit is compatible with the Ridgid accessories so I was hoping maybe these were too, since $58 for 4 accessory heads is a steal given that they sell for $50-60 each at home depot.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any info about it online and based on the one good pic of the power head (side view, labeled "What's Included") it's not the same. The Ridgid has buttons on the side and the "is an accessory connected" cut-off button is offset from the center on the Ridgid (it's in the very center top on the NEO)
@mcosby the home depot listing linked above includes a clear picture of the drive side of the accessory heads, if that will help you in your quest.
@mcosby I was wondering the same thing, don't currently own a Ridgid or Ryobi kit, but I've been considering picking one up. Comparing the NEO to the Ryobi from pictures online is enough for me to pull the trigger on the NEO. Then I'll take one of the heads into Home Depot and try it out on a Ryobi or Ridgid tool and see if it works. If it doesn't, I still have a somewhat functional kit, hopefully...
@mcosby Did you get to try the Neo heads with a Rigid or Ryobi base unit? Do they fit? I too have both a Rigid 12V and Ryobi 18V base and like a cheaper alternative to the $40 or more heads at HomeDepot
12V Lithium powered tools behave differently from 12V nicad or nimh tools, maybe due to battery chemistry or design, but they seem to be plenty powerful for general use. I have a 12V set from Rockwell that includes a drill/impact driver that is plenty powerful for everything I've thrown at it and an oscillating tool/sander similar to the one head of this device. Using the oscillating tool as a saw will drain the battery very quickly while the drill seems to run for a long time.
Considering this because the aforementioned drill has a 1/4 hex instead of a chuck and isn't a right angle drill, and the electric ratchet might be nice in open areas. The cutter looks like it might be neat too. But the oscillating tool has a potentially huge downside: if the speed is controlled by squeezing the trigger, you have to hold the tool a certain way and keep the correct pressure on the trigger. Many oscillating tools have a separate speed dial and an on/off switch so that you can dial in the speed for the job you're doing and hold the tool however you need to get it in place to do the work. The saw blades, for example, are very sensitive to speed depending on what you're cutting.
Looking forward to use this tool.
@hvuong9 That's quite the set-up around here.
@hvuong9 That's what she.... damn it. It's too easy. I need to be more creative. Let me work and it and get back to you.
Surprised no one's commented about "Perfect for drilling and driving in awkward spaces." Giggity
@KMakato Like the backseat of a Volkswagen?
Thank you I've been looking a cheap set like this to help resolve my honeydo list.*
Now I can fix the Matrix
@somf69 wow, I never realized before seeing that picture how lady-like Neo's shoes were. Weird choice.
The price is a little steep believe it or not. I was just checking ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEO-Multi-Head-Tool-Combo-Set-lithium-12v-Angle-Drill-Wrench-Ratchet-Cutter-Gift-/231456044800?pt=Power_Tools&hash=item35e3daf700
They sold 3 of them last month for only $48.97 each. There didnt seem to be a rush to buy them either... Ill pay seems over priced.
@bruinscbr That link shows 120. What am i missing?
@bruinscbr ... plus shipping, and the $49 sets were refurbished.
@narfcake No they are brand new says damage to box though.
@readnj click the "3 sold" It shows they were sold for $49
Can it cut my grannies toenails? Friggen jaws of life can't make a dent in those puppies..
@bczf 12V.... unlikely.
Apparently so. :-)
@unixrab Gone but not forgotten.
The company that sells these is called "Royal Line," not "Neo," http://royallinellc.com. They don't seem to currently sell this or any other tools, but they do carry a $2,600 toilet/bidet combo. Probably no chance of getting parts or warranty service from them. But at this price, it seems worth the risk.
@jnorden I think they import them from Puly tools in China and slap a sticker on. They maybe even got Puly to do a custom color way
meh
I hope this works better than the Cobra power inverter I bought in December. It was defective. If this neo works, it should be handy for small cos and sanding. What sold me on our, it comes with 2 batteries, and I was going to buy a multi function tool for stripping paint off of metal yard furniture.
I was trying to convince my wife that this could be used for pedicures so she would buy one, but she isn't having any of it.
I have a lot of tools. Problem is they keep migrating from my shop to the house every time I have a little fix-it issue. I've been working on building a set of lighter weight tools that can stay in the laundry room and not affect my ability to find the tools I need while fixing real things out in the shop. This is just the little thing I need to stop carrying, (and then leaving) several grease and sawdust covered tools into my house. This might save my sanity and my marriage! Thank you, meh... if that is your real name.
magical-restful-faucet
Bought this for the right angle drill, more than anything else. I'll keep the set in my satellite/cold weather workshop (basement). Used the drill last night. It made holes (1/8" - my bit). Threatened the kids with it. They were unimpressed.
I would love to try this kit out if the thing came with a battery charger!!! Sent 3 emails but meh keeps saying they are overloaded. Any ideas?
@psamp55 Patience, grasshopper. They really are overloaded. There are 2 of them and about a billion emails. They will get to you as soon as they possibly can.
But they aren't the ones handling the warranty on this - you might have better luck contacting NEO, since they're handling the warranty on these. This is their Contact Page.
I have not tried it but tested out the connections, everything seems like it will work. I do not think higher voltage batteries would be better, since it would make this tool too big and cumbersome. The appeal, an all in one cordless portable set for minor drilling, socket wrench, sanding and scraping. The sander, I hope, will work, it was a main interest but the triangle head holds the paper by frictions and directions say to keep it upright when using, which if true, will make it useless because sanding requires lots of angles. Also, I thought it came with a small circular saw suitable for minor cuts and trims. Disappointingly, it is not a saw, it is an electric mat knife for cutting "carpet," "plastic," and "cardboard". Sounds incredibly useless but maybe handy for ripping down boxes to go into recycle bins but a regular mat knife is probably a lot better. Maybe, I'll try it for opening things bought incased in indestructible clam shells, the fun might outweigh the damage to the products due to inevitable over cuts. After a few paces in the filed, I will provide updates
@joejoebells The instruction manual says you should charge and discharge the battery 4-5 times for optimal life. Is this worth it or not really necessary? I thought Li-Ion batteries didn't need to do this.
@joejoebells the cutting wheel is what makes this kit unique - that’s not what I bought the kit for, but the cutting wheel turned out to be an asset - it did a good job on cutting carpet and great for cutting sheets of ABS and PVC.
Mine was defective. Meh will not stand behind it. Royal Line will not reply to emails or phone messages. I filed a dispute with my bank to get my money back. Too bad, I like Meh and I liked the product until it broke (about an hour of light duty). I'm not into paying for stuff that does not work, however, and will not transact with Meh again.
@theschnitt it has a warranty from royal line. Try CCing meh support when you email Royal Line.
@theschnitt do you still have the charger? Meh.be i can buy that from you?
Used mine today on a heavy duty dock float repair job. The ratchet attachment -rocked- great torque, made easy prey of rusted tap screws and was great for attaching new bolts. Angled drill saved us in a pinch too. Others on the job were also impressed with this kit. No problems w battery life. You get 2. Keep one on the charger and rotate. Great buy, thanks Meh! Sell these again!
Bought it at Costco for $100 - product was discontinued and marked down from about $140 so I grabbed it. Overall decent quality, great for storing in car and doing odd jobs.
bump
did anyone buy this that is still alive?
Yep, and still use it from time to time.
Sorry!
i lost the charger, rendering the other 15 pieces useless
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Signs point to yes
anyone? bueller? i’m looking to buy a charger from someone who bought this and promptly put it in the back of the closet…
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bump, need that charger, don’t ya know?
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Don’t count on it
@Yoda_Daenerys maybe a long shot but those batteries look to be very similar to my Rockwell 12v drill batteries. A charger like this might work. Study pictures of the charger and Rockwell or Worx batteries compared to your battery and see if it’s worth a shot.
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Worx-12V-Lithium-Battery-Charger-For-Worx-JCB-Rockwell-Erbauer-wx128-382-wx540-7-/142536955595