Jury duty
6Yup... I got a letter in the mail... About Jury duty. I guess I have to go next month... First time getting this letter, any advice/anyone able to share as to what "fun" I'm in for? I realize it's my civic duty. Just Sucks the hours It starts too early for me to drop the kiddo off... (it's about an hour +parking to get where Jury duty is... I would have about 45 minutes to get from drop off to court.) And it gets out the minute I should be picking the kiddo up... So... That's $60 extra a day if I have to pick him up... Why couldn't this come when I'm single and easy enough to do this, or when he's old enough that I don't have to rely on daycare...
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I had jury duty today. I was in the pool for an idiot with a gun who murdered his brother in 'self defense.' I kind of wish I had been picked, because idiots with guns deserve jailtime.
@andrd Can I make a wild guess as to why you weren't picked?
@jqubed You can do whatever you want, but you'd be wrong. I didn't get called up to the juror area to be interviewed; I was in the pool with 45 other people. I googled the case after I was dismissed, and was speaking specifically to that case. Good guess and projection though!
@jqubed quick summary: guy took a handful of benzos the night before, murdered his brother while he was sitting in a chair, unarmed. the guy was unarmed. the chair may have had arms, it wasn't disclosed
Depending on your state and county, you may or may not actually have to serve. You could be in a standby group, where you have to call in/check a website each day to see if you report, or you may be told to just go to the courthouse.
Once there, you can expect to spend anywhere from a few hours to a whole day waiting around while they call numbers for various trials scheduled for the day.
Generally, if you get to the end of the day (whenever that might be) without being called, you're considered to have served.
Bring stuff to do obviously.
Think long and hard about if you're going to try to get out of jury duty- some judges absolutely despise those types of people and won't accept anything less than you making a complete ass out of yourself to get out of jury duty.
@dashcloud perhaps a minor point, but at least in NY, being in the pool counts as service.
@dashcloud You mean: Bring stuff to do discreetly, obviously. :)
@Pavlov I'm surprised you didn't come right out with jury nullification :P
@sohmageek That's always fun. I did sit on a federal grand jury once and we got so fed up with the prosecutor that we began investigating him. He stopped showing up after that . . . go figure. Frankly, IMO, it isn't a true grand jury UNLESS and UNTIL it is a runway grand jury. I shirk municipal / state jury duty from time to time but I'd volunteer for a grand jury again and they'd have a really hard time reigning me in . . . go figure again.
I was selected for the first time a few years ago (I'm in NC). Called the night before (as instructed) and the system said I didn't have to go. Well all righty then.
Got it again two years ago but got it deferred for a medical reason.
Got again this year, a few months from now.
My understanding is that most people sit and wait from 8am to 5pm and then go home. They say to bring something to read.
I'm self-employed and single so not really an inconvenience, but I hope I don't have to serve on a multi-day case.
@awk If you have to go, get there early and get your seat in the jury pool room by an outlet. We have a huge jury room with 300-400 people and only around 6 open outlets. Courthouse wifi though that was good enough for Netflix.
I've received letters about jury duty twice. First time I was attending college out-of-state (6 hour drive from home and didn't own a car). Second time was for the wrong county. (Granted my town is in multiple counties and I live close to the intersection of all of the counties.)
Obviously I got out of jury duty both times. :)
@msklzannie I was called for jury duty during Spring Break. We had quite a few students who could only get a deferment earlier who had to show up the same week I did. They were probably local or in-state students.
@msklzannie How is a town in multiple counties? What state is that?
@gominosensei PA's got some places like that- the boundaries are weirdly drawn so you can be in one county, then move hundred yards or so down the road, and be in the next county.
@gominosensei Where I live the parishes (counties to everyone else) were drawn according to where the river was a long time ago. As the towns grew they annexed labs on their own sides of the river, which had moved. So parts of one town are in the other parish.
There's also a town an hour away that's in two states.
Annexed *land, forgive my lack of proofreading.
@gominosensei I'm in Iowa which has 99 counties. My town (only about 1100 in population) is on a river and railroad and has land in 3 counties. One of the 3 counties no longer has any houses within city limits (there was 1 but the city bought it after the last flood and tore it down). Also my town isn't platted straight north/south/east/west.
So I'm less than a block from a house that has a county line run through it, but technically about 2 or so blocks from the junction of all 3 counties.
Better yet, the local school district is in 6-7 (don't remember which) counties... but we're still only 2A.
@djslack I was thinking of old school labs like moon shining labs. (Was it called labs back then? I mean that's the equivalent of today's meth labs right?)
@sohmageek A distillery perhaps?
Being a parent with a small child may in fact qualify you for an exemption. Call the court and explain about child care. They don't want jurors who can't be sequestered. Which court?
@OldCatLady I may kill someone if they were to sequester us. I don't even like to go out that often plus my son has reached that age where if mommy isn't home when he gets home he's a terror. If daddy isn't home when he gets home he's a terror. If daddy doesn't tuck him in he doesn't sleep well. If mommy didn't hug goodnight doesn't slee well.
@sohmageek they don't sequester juror"s usually unless it's a high profile case and that possibility is discussed during voir dire with potential jurors ( would this be a problem, would this cause a hardship etc). So most jurors will never ever have to worry about that scenario.
@sohmageek And if the kid doesn't sleep well, neither do the parents. They're good about sharing that.
I was lucky enough to be candidate 0001. Guess how that turned out. Luckily the trial only lasted three days. The whole thing was as enlightening as it was terrifying.
Just make the logistics of caring for your child as clear as possible to them at the first opportunity. They should have plenty of other childless single losers like myself to draw from.
@nogoodwithnames Yep. Last time my number was 1.
My first time for the big JD was for a murder trial for a guy who stabbed his distant cousin 53 times because she was also his coke dealer and she was out of supply. Shit was horrifying. I had it a little easier than the rest of the jury because the podium blocked my view of the defendant who was apparently staring the jury down for the 5 days we were in session.
Usually jury selection process goes as follows (assuming it isn't traffic court): 12ish jury people are put on the stand and the rest of the pool is in the gallery. The defense and prosecution take turns kicking people off of the jury stands, sometimes asking questions to the jury person to see if they want to keep them. Once the defense and prosecution are reasonably happy, the process stops.
If you start in the jury box, you have a good chance of not being in the final selection. Unless you are me. They went through like 30 people and I sat there thinking "Well... fuck."
Usually, you will be the smartest person on the jury, and when you deliberate you will likely have to dumb down stuff for the other jury members to understand. I mean, I had to explain how gel electrophoresis worked to a med student as well as the relevance of DNA markers.
Keep in mind that you can push the charge to a lower severity of the offence (2nd or 3rd as opposed to 1st degree).
Make sure that after all the evidence is presented and they give you the opportunity to review the evidence, you make sure that the group goes through it with a fine tooth comb. We watched the video of the panning around the murder screen at least 3 times, pausing throughout, and always found something new in each viewing.
Take really good notes, or make sure one of the other jurors is taking really good notes, it comes in handy when you go to deliberation.
There is always going to be the one person in deliberation that will go "Well... I kinda think they did it... but .. I dunno." and you have to spend a few hours getting them to take a firm stance one way or the other, and it will piss you off. Alternatively, don't be that person, they need to prove guilt BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, and the decision has to be unanimous.
Last of all, don't be a dill hole and try to weasel out of court. It is your civic responsibility.
P.S. Morticians are super creepy.
@Angryface This is really helpful. I was called three times for federal jury duty, but each time I was out of state doing research and it was waived. (No weaseling... I'm very surprised they didn't tell me to go for jury duty where I was, considering it was federal).
Anyway, each time I received that letter I was nervous. No one ever really tells you what to expect. Just having some general advice such as "take notes" is great. I have excellent recall, but when dealing with a group of people who will undoubtedly hear different things, writing down everything is a fantastic idea. I never had thought to think of jury duty as a high school group project with a teacher-chosen group, but that's what it sounds like.
I'm sure my time will come again. Thanks for the little bit of preparedness.
@primrosewater can't call you to federal court in another state where you don't reside --jurisdictional reasons --and jury panels are suppose to be drawn from a jury of your peers so that's why jury's are selected from your own county (most US states have counties except Louisiana which have parishes not counties )
Also jurors weren't allowed to take notes in court --they had to listen to the evidence presented ( jurors decide what evidence is, Judge determines the law). If they had questions about what they heard they could sends notes via bailiff to judge when they were in jury room . Judge would call both defense and state attorneys together to read question then judge would answer the question-- we didn't . Sometimes answer to jury was go back and co tune deliberating .
@AttyVette My experience was the opposite, we could take notes, but could not send notes to get questions asked. Had we been able to, we would have been sending a shit ton of notes, as there was a fair bit of vagueness on certain things. From what the lady who was walking us through the building and doing other stuff like that was saying, it depends on the judge if you can take notes or send questions.
@AttyVette I've been called twice. First time I said I would be there but I was due to give birth two days later; they excused me in a hurry. Second time was a couple of decades later, and because I didn't keep my smart mouth shut, I got elected foreperson. Fortunately it was a civil case in federal district court, many dollars but no blood, and after eight days of testimony, we deliberated a day and a half and went home Friday night. We were encouraged to keep voluminous notes, and were given legal pads and pens to do so.
@Angryface our Judges in our county don't allow it -- or at least when I practiced there they didn't
@OldCatLady I wouldn't have had an problem with jurors taking notes and wish they did personally but in our county it wasn't allowed - at least when I practiced there.
I'm certainly not advocating dodging your civic duty, but this just popped up in my Facebook Newsfeed: 6 Strategies to Get Out of Jury Duty
I had jury duty about 10 years ago. One guy stabbed another guy five times, in front of dozens of witnesses, confused to the assault to the police, then retracted his statement and plead not guilty.
Trial was about six hours long over two days. Second day we got to the jury deliberation room around 11:30am, took about 30 minutes to all decide he was guilty. The jury representative appointed by the court (don't know the official title) told us that if we didn't have a decision at that point, they'd pay for our lunch and bring it to us.
Told him we didn't have a decision, had a kick-ass lunch, walked into the courtroom and told the judge around 1pm that his ass was guilty.
I got paid $20.60 over two days ($9/day plus $.26/mile). The pay wasn't awesome, but the experience was.
However, if I were one of those that didn't get picked, I know I would have jumped out of the third story window by the third day.
@hems79 confessed.... not confused.
I've had it three times so far (maybe two). The first time, I wasn't selected. The second time, I wasn't selected. The third time, the guy accepted a plea bargain at the last minute, after we'd been there all day long.
The judge said that he was glad that the guy accepted a plea bargain, as he wouldn't want anyone to hear what all of the horrible things that that guy did.
If you have children , you could get off for that excuse --depends on where you live (state rules etc.) . I never get picked for jury's anymore ( did one time before I became an attorney) but I like the process especially since I've been the one picking juries before.
Well let me elaborate actually we used our peremptory challenges and challenges for cause to "strike" people from the jury list. Depending on the court ( justice of the peace, county court at law , felony ) it's either the first 6 or 12 names on the list not struck for cause or struck using preemptory strike is on the jury panel. Either state or defense could also ask for a jury shuffle so the panels potential jurors cards are shuffled then drawn in a new order to be seated before they are asked questions . Only one shuffle though was allowed. So panels are not chosen per say because it's the first 6 or 12 potential jurors left that are not struck that make the panel.
For a while there I thought you were talking about the 1995 Pauly Shore classic
@MrGlass Watching that is a death sentence.
Check the laws in your county/state. Here anyone caring for a child under 12, or a disabled or elderly person who can't be left alone is exempt, as is anyone in school during those hours, including some students in online courses.
Also a doctor's note, knowledge of the legality of "jury nullification", documented disability......perhaps extreme financial hardship such as self-emplyment (only under certain circumstances, and documentation usually needed) may help. Also you can ask for a delay or rescheduling. If you are out-of-county or out-of-state, you are excused.
If you are caring for a child, but work, and the child is in daily care, you may get excused if the jury hours conflict with childcare.
If you have ever been involved in a like situation (crime, lawsuit), if you have too much expert knowledge, or if you are or are related to a LEO, judge, court officer, police or jail employee, or employee of a prosecutor's office, you may be struck from a jury pool on those grounds.
Some persons advise ignoring the mail notice because the court cant prove you received one until it is sent registered or certified. In some jurisdictions, if you dont respond at all, you might get removed from the database. I regard all this as risky/questionable.
@f00l I Agree Risky/Questionable... I do know about "jury Nullification" I think it's something everyone should know about. Not really trying to get out of it... just damn inconvenient. Also I tend to wonder if my wife's position at a government agency would make me less or more desirable on a Jury...
I get excused all the time now (because hubby is self employed and I need to be here if he needs things looked up, to print shipping labels, take payments, etc).
But the last time I was called for a jury and they were doing the selection, it was for a coyote (one of those people who transports people illegally into the U.S. for money) who crashed a car and people died because of it.
Well, there was this long form to fill out and it had many, many questions. I was pretty sure I'd be excused because I explained my mother was a naturalized citizen (she was born and raised in Dublin, Ireland) and I knew how hard she'd worked to become a citizen. (I'm not anti-illegal alien, but I am anti-coyote taking money from people to get them here and then hurting and killing those people trying to avoid law enforcement; I don't believe in border walls, I don't believe in splitting families, I believe that the majority of people who are here illegally are hard workers and do jobs that you'd never find the white supremacist meth head down the street doing ). I was pretty clear on this.
They called me back the next week. Really? You think I don't have a bias against this guy? I sit in the gallery and I'm called in to talk to the attorneys and the judge. The judge looks over my form, looks at me and says "what are you doing here?" I shrug my shoulders. "That's what I'm wondering." You're excused.
I'm amazed at how many people want to get out of jury duty. I find it utterly fascinating and have always wanted to sit on a jury for a trial. I did make it onto a jury once only to have them settle the night before it was to begin. It was a medical malpractice suit and I was given a real grilling about whether I could play Switzerland since I work in healthcare. I finally convinced them I would be neutral and they were pleased there would be someone with medical experience to help the other jurors understand the technical aspect of the case. That's the closest I've come after sitting in the pool room several times. It's your civic duty folks, stop trying to be excused!
@cinoclav I'd forgotten that when I was a jurist, the case involved knowledge and terms from my then-current field of work.
@cinoclav I've never been called to serve. I would actually really enjoy the opportunity. Mom did, repeatedly, back in the late 80s. They freaking loved her.
@cinoclav I feel the same way. There are times it wouldn't be convenient, but in general I'd be happy to help.
I got a letter about two weeks ago even though I'm not qualified for it. I'd definitely go in if I could. Looks like they picked a wrong person!
@galmaegi Can I ask why you're not qualified?
@jqubed Because I'm not a US citizen!
@galmaegi Yeah, I guess it does make sense they would want citizens and not just legal residents. I think think there's a test on the constitution prior to becoming a naturalized citizen, and supposedly everyone who was born a citizen should've learned about the constitution in school (I bet a lot of us wouldn't pass the citizenship test, though!).
@jqubed http://www.washingtontimes.com/quiz/2015/feb/11/us-citizenship-test-could-you-pass/
@cinoclav Your Results:
Correct: 23
Incorrect: 1
Number Of Questions: 24
Percent correct: 96%
So many ads it almost crashed my phone!
@jqubed "Thank you for reading The Washington Times. We've noticed you're using an ad blocker. Please turn it off to enjoy our content." Umm, no thanks...
@ciabelle #NeverAgain
@jqubed @ciabelle wow, the ads! Including one that took over the entire results page and a popunder window as well. Holy hell, I've seen pure clickbait sites with less annoying advertising. And this is a real newspaper's site?
Also, same results. Missed one (who is the chief justice), glad to know I could be a citizen.
@galmaegi They pull their potential juror data from DMV and other public records (not just voter registration records, as many people believe) - there should be a checkbox on the summons and next to it should be "not a US citizen" - you have to check that box and return it to the clerk or jury coordinator of the issuing court or you'll be held in contempt. If there is not a checkbox, return the summons with a letter and documentation (redacted copy of your employment visa) explaining your ineligibility. They may still require you to appear to make such declaration under oath. Many jurisdictions will issue an arrest warrant if you fail to answer the summons, regardless of your citizenship.
@jqubed I'm not ready for this test yet! I got about half right. I did laugh at this one:
What are the two major political parties in the United States?
- Law and Order
- Checks and Balances
Thanks @Pavlov! I didn't want to get in any trouble so I checked the box that I'm not a citizen and mailed it back. I should be good. (I hope!)
@djslack That'd be Justice John Roberts.
I took a 50 question test on another site a few months back. Missed one there (Who wrote The Federalist Papers, I believe)
I'm pretty sure I'm on a blacklist somewhere for Jury Duty.
@DrunkCat By blacklist, you mean that they hit you for it a lot, or not at all?
Sat in the jury pool twice. 1994 in Los Angeles, we were required to sit in the pool for two weeks (some days you could just phone in) or serve for one trial. Sat in the jury box three times over those two weeks for voir dire. (a DUI case, a gang homicide case, and a solicitation case) Each time I was excused on a peremptory challenge by the DA. Hmmm.
In 2003, I was summoned to jury duty in Nashville, specifically for an upcoming capital murder trial. I got to fill out a huge questionnaire of open ended essay questions. I figured my aversion to the death penalty would get me kicked off immediately. Nope, sat around all day, then the judge interviewed each potential juror individually in front of the attorneys and defendant. I was asked about my opinions concerning capital punishment, and figured I'd be dismissed at that point.. Nope, came back the next day for voir dire. They'd already dismissed about 2/3rds of the jury pool by the time I sat down in the box, and was excused for cause pretty quickly by the DA at that point. But I was a bit uneasy about how far I went in the selection process.
@ciabelle my summons says 3 days pool and up to 3 trials.
lol at chumps who register to vote and don't live off the grid like yours truly
edit: ...and/or live in California
@Moose If you have a driver's license or state ID in California, you're automatically in the jury pool.
@Moose I'm not actually registered to vote; North Carolina goes off driver's licenses.
@Moose
@Moose You are online a lot for someone who is off the grid..hmm.
I've been called a few times and only served once. I hung that jury and loved doing it! The trial was about 30 minutes. We deliberated for 3 hours. Had 3 upper middle class ladies-who-lunch types on our 6 person jury. One said, "If he's innocent it won't so bad for him, it's his first conviction and he'll only get a couple of years." Another said, "He looks guilty. Look at the way he's dressed!"
It was a trail concerning dealing in stolen property. When we first went to deliberate it 50-50 guilty or innocent. The bitches convinced the one's who thought he was guilty, to change their minds. Then they came to me, and I said:
"I smoke! I smoke a lot! I hate to go more than even just a few minutes without a cigarette. But I'll sit in here all day and do without if it keeps you bitches from convicting this man!"
They finally gave up and summoned the bailiff. They were stupid enough to ask for the alternate to take my place.
Hanging a jury really pisses off judges. I highly recommend it.
I have been sent the letter every. single. year.
And I have been called to go and sit every. single. year.
And I have been pulled into vor dire (?) every. single. year.
And I have had to come back for a second day because the case called a jury at 3:45pm every. single. year.
And thrice now I have served on a week-long trial.
So good luck to you. :p
(Personally I don't mind jury duty as long as I am allowed to postpone until it is convenient for me. My profession as a teacher gives me "free" time in the summer, and my employer will pay me to defer it to the summer instead of going out during the school year.)
it is about that time for me actually. Last time I went was April 2015.
@Collin1000 In my state, once you do your jury duty you don't have to do it again for 24 months. if you get another card before then, you just fill out the form online saying it's been less than 2 years.
@andrd My county is every 12 months :(
I miss The People's Court:(
I had jury duty once. It took quite a lot of waiting but I was called with a group of about 100 people for juror selection. The court was on the 8th floor so it took about 15 minutes to get everyone up there by elevator from the juror waiting room on the lobby level.
By the time we got there, the prosecution and defense had already agreed to go with a bench trial, i.e. a trial by judge with no jury, because the case was apparently too technical for a scruffy group like us. So we were all allowed to go home after they handed out the jury duty certificates. (I still have no idea if I'm supposed to frame it or what. :) )
I checked the trial list on the county court website afterwards and I think it was a case of a lady who got caught trying to help her boyfriend escape from prison.
@mortonfox the story ends with me not escaping!
@mortonfox i think the certificate is what my work wants to know I didn't just slack off and it was cancelled.
I got a letter the other day (second letter for the same case). The first time I told them I was moving across country the next week (which I did). They sent another letter asking me to come in - this was months later, and somehow it actually got forwarded to me. I told them that I am now 1600 miles away and really can't commute daily from Utah to Indiana...
I got called up for jury duty once. Had to sit around for half day, then sent home. No idea what the case was or why I was sent home (along with, it seemed, everyone else). Never got interviewed.
The last time I was called I was lucky as they chose the 12th juror (I think it was 12) just before me. I don't know if I would have got out of it or not but I would have had to tell the judge (and I would have felt bad saying it in front of everybody) that I think any plaintiff who goes in without an attorney is an idiot. I've read hundreds of depositions like that and it doesn't matter how smart the plaintiff is, he comes off sounding stupid because he doesn't know the protocol.
I've lived in Baltimore city for 8 years now and have been called for jury duty 6 times.
2 times served on trial
2 times called the night before and didn't have to show up
2 times sat around all day and was dismissed.
Lessons I've learned. 1 get early stake your claim on a power outlet. 2 my court house does not have wifi. Make sure you have entertainment. 3 don't try to make lame excuses to get out. Most judges don't take them and will make you life hell, but also it Is your duty to serve. 4 dress business casual. 5 some people don't care and will stink
6 bring snacks and water. 7 bring extra snacks to sell and make some of your parking fee and babysitter fees back.
@jml326 Packages of beef jerky or M&Ms are guaranteed to sell. Powerbanks are a lifesaver if you can't get to an outlet. And headphones can make life bearable, whether or not they're plugged in. Hmm. I wonder whether packs of earbuds would sell like candy.
@jml326 so I shouldn't wear my best meh shirt? I was thinking the smileys or the I like irk shirt. But then again. I have meh in purple, v-card, the flask(I really like that one. I'm surprised they didn't make that staff only) the m icon....
@OldCatLady I've tried to sell earbuds from Meh. But people are pretty good these days about bringing their own.
food and drink sell for an increased price. Especially if you get selected and are stuck in a jury room.
@sohmageek It really depends on where you live. I know in Baltimore they are happy if people wear clothing and deodorant. Our standards for jury selection are low. However when it comes to serving the judges want you to class it up a little. Any Meh shirt with a sports jacket should be just fine.
@jml326 I don't think I own a sports jacket that fits anymore....
@sohmageek Nice flannel?
@jml326 I was on jury duty in December but never had to go. The list of rules, however, said no phones or electronics of any kind would be allowed. This was federal court.
@sammydog01 I'd still wear earbuds, for blocking out the people who talk to themselves, gunfire etc. I wonder whether my Sansa clip would be okay.
@OldCatLady
Last time i was in a Federal Court building (almost a decade ago) they would not allow any electronics of any kind.
@OldCatLady Maybe buy some ear plugs at the drug store- they work pretty well.
I know some people just throw it in the trash. If it ever becomes an issue you can claim that you never got it, and because it's not sent certified mail there's no record of it actually being delivered. Now, that is underhanded and potentially illegal, but its one way to ensure you don't have to go.
@RuralNinja Given that the courts seem happy to hand out exemptions for the smallest concern, resorting to dishonesty to skirt selection seems particularly bad when the consequence of a smaller jury pool is a weaker justice system.
Or is it? It could be that the ethical standards of someone who would knowingly do this would just result in them being rejected from an interview. Perhaps this system is actually brilliantly self-selecting.
So I called. And I've been delayed from picking this time. Next selection I think i'll be in unfortunately
Here in the crook county, home of shitcago, getting a deferral means you are guaranteed to be called again in the next month or three. The one nice thing (about the only one) is that its a one day or one trial service; you don't get stuck waiting in a pool for days or have to do more than one trial, with a one year 'can't be called again' window.
Most of the summons I've received have been 'standby', call the day before, but so far I've never been deferred.
@duodec yeah I'm reporting # 185, they called 1-135, they already told me when the next one is... in 3 weeks. Right after vacation, so I'm much happier than worrying if I won't go on vacation again.
@sohmageek If you still have a kid in day care, you should still be excused.
@OldCatLady apparently not so much.
@sohmageek @OldCatLady depends on the county, and in bad ones like crook county, may depend on which bureaucrat gets your deferral request. Even here there are decent and honorable ones scattered throughout the mass of patronage, tax money sucking friends and relatives of the machine power brokers.
Neighbor just finished jury duty.
A child molestation case.
Not Guilty. He said that the DA had 3 years to prepare and had NOTHING! No physical evidence, no witnesses, NOTHING! Neighbor is a pretty intelligent guy and said it was an embarrassment with the DA... but can imagine if it was a one of those cases you hear about where the person like this gets sent up for a long time & maybe his defense sleep thru the trial.
One hears about all these horrors... neighbor said he hopes this guy didn't do it as the DA didn't prove anything.
No jury duty! Wahoo! I wasn’t called!
!! Why is this great. I saw what one of the cases was. I do not want to be on that jury. Nothing revolving kids. Especially under 5… No I don’t want to be on a jury for murder. No no no. 
so no jury duty. 
Reported for municipal court jury duty this past Monday morning. Entire docket of cases was settled and cleared without a single juror being called; everyone was sent home before 10:30a. AT LEAST a couple years before there’s a chance of being called again (unless it’s for a federal case); should be retired by then :fingers crossed: