@RedOak@thebigtverberg They can be pretty nice to have, especially here in MN. I just wear my inner layer if it is above 0 and add the outer shell if it drops below 0. Useful when the temperature can swing up or down 60 or 70 degrees within a couple days like a couple weeks ago.
I live in the south, if it’s cold enough that an outer layer is required, that layer shall consist of a combination of sheet rock, insulation, and bricks. I have enough food, water, and batteries to wait out any extra layer craziness.
WORKING OUTDOORS - layers beneath that “captain’s jacket” I bought off Woot one time without realizing it had “WARRIOR” embroidered on it so I had to shave that off and it now looks a little funny but is rainproof (except where it had “WARRIOR” embroidered on it) and has a (not rainproof) hood and lots of pockets.
SOCIALLY OUTDOORS - the Rainforest (@) winter coat that I wish had snaps instead of big buttons but at least has a zipper although the tab fell off right away.
BRIEFLY OUTDOORS - As long as I’m wearing pants and something long-sleeved I’m OK for a few minutes but since the dog will demand a walksies of unpredictable duration I’ll stick an arm into the Rainforest (@) winter coat which I wish had snaps instead of big buttons but at least has a zipper although the tab fell off right away as I go out the door and pull it on outside as he barks at the neighbors’ dogs who are barking because he’s barking.
WORKING OUTDOORS - NA.
SOCIALLY OUTDOORS - the black trenchcoat with the zipout lining that I think I left my leather gloves in the pockets? Or maybe they are in the car?
I wear a leather jacket for all “outer wear required” conditions. The difference for me is what I wear beneath it. Mild cold I wear just the leather jacket. The colder it gets I move to long-sleeves under the jacket, then fleece zip up if the long sleeves don’t cut it. I use a hoodie if there’s significant wind and i’m going to be outside for a while.
I probably should say, lest someone call the loony-bin & ask for an express pickup on my behalf, but even as damned cold as it’s been up here in Fargo, ND, I still take the dog out in my shorts & t-shirt & slippers to satisfy her urges in the middle of the night. I usually put on a headband, gloves & sometimes a scarf…but -20 isn’t that cold if you’re only exposed for 90 seconds or less…
That depends on the wind and precipitation expectation.
If there’s no wind and it’s not going to rain, depends on the outfit. For dressier, probably a light wool car coat. For more everyday, a full-zip cotton hoodie or tech soft shell.
If it’s bordering on chilly with a noticeable wind but no rain, I’ll either pull out a soft shell with WindStopper or go up to something thicker to compensate.
If it’s going to rain, I’ll obviously go with a waterproof jacket. If my top is pretty warm, I’ll go with the zero-insulation shell, but if the place I’m going is pretty warm inside and I’m just wearing a short-sleeve shirt, probably something with medium insulation.
At last count, I have 27 jackets to achieve this granularity. It’s pretty great. And no, vests and quarter zip sweaters aren’t jackets.