Well, they do use rail for non haz packages. It is how they can deliver coast to coast in 3-5 days. That said, I have never seen that delay code either.
@werehatrack yup, that is true, but it does happen from time to time.
I can recall a winter several years ago where it got so cold up north (MN, WI, etc) that in addition to the diesel trucks the trains actually could not operate. It was the first time I experienced a complete shut down of both intermodal and truck traffic in my career.
@tinamarie1974 This probably also reflects the way that the Internet has improved information sharing. Decades ago, that datum might have arrived well after the package.
@werehatrack for the average consumer yes, but not for me. I work in global supply chain and would be aware if something would have affected the transit of my companies product.
@tinamarie1974 Back in the '70s, I was a purchasing agent for an imported auto parts warehouse. More than once, we found out that a container had landed at the port only after it had cleared customs, and the broker faxed us the details of what was about to hit our dock. We didn’t have a Telex, or we could have known when it left the origin port and when it would hit ours. By the '80s, it was possible to interface to Telex via a Western Union dial up server. Email eventually made it obsolete almost everywhere that mattered.
@werehatrack I remember the old telex machines, used them for quite a while.
Your Logistics Dept should of had a handle on ETA’s into the port to reduce delays. Not sure how your purchasing dept was ran, but my various companies Purchasing was/is always kept at arms length and does not have all of the details that Logistics/Trade Compliance would have at their fingertips.
@tinamarie1974@werehatrack
I was just gonna say that. It was probably 10 years ago when we got an Arctic blast winter. I went to go to Chicago and we had got like 2 feet of snow that wasn’t predicted but the temps had dropped to below zero with estimates winds making it feel like it was -30 or more. I got dropped off at the train station at 6am thinking the waiting area would be open (and my train would be leaving any min) the tracks were frozen and they couldn’t get the train to move. I remember seeing them shoveling the snow off the tracks to get the train to be able to move. After 2&1/2 hours of standing outside they finally let us on the train but their was no running water, no hot water, barely any food bc nothing had gotten restocked the night before from the train being frozen. I was so cold I curled up in a ball and passed out on the seats. After who knows how many hours I woke up to a packed train sitting again at standstill bc we got stuck on the tracks somewhere on the way. What was supposed to be a 4 hour ride turned into 10 that day (they last time I ever took the train to Chicago too). That was the last train that went out for I think 6 or 7 days bc it was so cold. The tracks were frozen. I got stuck in Chicago until they reopened the trains again. Plains were grounded during the time to I remember bc my boyfriend had fallen down the stairs and knocked him self out for an hour or two and I was worried about him.
It was so cold and icy walking around Chicago, it’s the first time I’ve ever seen the bean with nobody there. If you took your hands out of your pockets even with gloves on they started to hurt from cold but taking your gloves off to take pictures (bc back then gloves didn’t have the finger button) you got like 2 seconds and you thought you had frostbite. It’s defiantly a trip I’ll never forget.
BTW @blaineg have you ever seen the complete list of parcel exception codes? I dont have UPS’s, but I do have the FedEx list if you are curious. It is mind numbing.
@blaineg@tinamarie1974 I think I found it. I’ve had Some Words with the folks at FedEx when a driver coded an exception as 283 “No access to address” on a day when I was present all day and the street was not blocked at any time.
Very good with the image Meh, it is UPS.
Well, they do use rail for non haz packages. It is how they can deliver coast to coast in 3-5 days. That said, I have never seen that delay code either.
@tinamarie1974 Railroads tend to have fewer equipment failure issues than truck operators.
@werehatrack yup, that is true, but it does happen from time to time.
I can recall a winter several years ago where it got so cold up north (MN, WI, etc) that in addition to the diesel trucks the trains actually could not operate. It was the first time I experienced a complete shut down of both intermodal and truck traffic in my career.
@tinamarie1974 This probably also reflects the way that the Internet has improved information sharing. Decades ago, that datum might have arrived well after the package.
@werehatrack for the average consumer yes, but not for me. I work in global supply chain and would be aware if something would have affected the transit of my companies product.
@tinamarie1974 Back in the '70s, I was a purchasing agent for an imported auto parts warehouse. More than once, we found out that a container had landed at the port only after it had cleared customs, and the broker faxed us the details of what was about to hit our dock. We didn’t have a Telex, or we could have known when it left the origin port and when it would hit ours. By the '80s, it was possible to interface to Telex via a Western Union dial up server. Email eventually made it obsolete almost everywhere that mattered.
@werehatrack I remember the old telex machines, used them for quite a while.
Your Logistics Dept should of had a handle on ETA’s into the port to reduce delays. Not sure how your purchasing dept was ran, but my various companies Purchasing was/is always kept at arms length and does not have all of the details that Logistics/Trade Compliance would have at their fingertips.
@tinamarie1974 We weren’t that big
@werehatrack
@tinamarie1974 @werehatrack
I was just gonna say that. It was probably 10 years ago when we got an Arctic blast winter. I went to go to Chicago and we had got like 2 feet of snow that wasn’t predicted but the temps had dropped to below zero with estimates winds making it feel like it was -30 or more. I got dropped off at the train station at 6am thinking the waiting area would be open (and my train would be leaving any min) the tracks were frozen and they couldn’t get the train to move. I remember seeing them shoveling the snow off the tracks to get the train to be able to move. After 2&1/2 hours of standing outside they finally let us on the train but their was no running water, no hot water, barely any food bc nothing had gotten restocked the night before from the train being frozen. I was so cold I curled up in a ball and passed out on the seats. After who knows how many hours I woke up to a packed train sitting again at standstill bc we got stuck on the tracks somewhere on the way. What was supposed to be a 4 hour ride turned into 10 that day (they last time I ever took the train to Chicago too). That was the last train that went out for I think 6 or 7 days bc it was so cold. The tracks were frozen. I got stuck in Chicago until they reopened the trains again. Plains were grounded during the time to I remember bc my boyfriend had fallen down the stairs and knocked him self out for an hour or two and I was worried about him.
It was so cold and icy walking around Chicago, it’s the first time I’ve ever seen the bean with nobody there. If you took your hands out of your pockets even with gloves on they started to hurt from cold but taking your gloves off to take pictures (bc back then gloves didn’t have the finger button) you got like 2 seconds and you thought you had frostbite. It’s defiantly a trip I’ll never forget.
@Star2236 @werehatrack 10 years is about right! It was insanely cold
BTW @blaineg have you ever seen the complete list of parcel exception codes? I dont have UPS’s, but I do have the FedEx list if you are curious. It is mind numbing.
@tinamarie1974
That would be a fun read.
@tinamarie1974 Nope, but it sounds like it could be fun. Well, depending on how long the list is!
@blaineg I havent looked at it for about a year, but I want to say it was several hundred to a 1,000 codes
@blaineg @tinamarie1974 I think I found it. I’ve had Some Words with the folks at FedEx when a driver coded an exception as 283 “No access to address” on a day when I was present all day and the street was not blocked at any time.
@blaineg @tinamarie1974 @werehatrack @brainmist Remember this?
https://meh.com/forum/topics/whats-in-the-box