If you have the storm coming (eg Alabama and east)
3Hey all we just got 8+" of rain overnight around where I live in MS, all the creeks and rivers are flooded (mostly moderate flood levels - a couple of rivers 10 to 20’ or so feet over), high winds, lots of thunderstorms, wind sheer, hail, and I think tornados at one point (those were mostly west of me). While my apt is dry, one of my friends (I lived there for a while before I got into hud) is not. I have a small storage unit since I live in 450 sf and don’t know if it is dry - it is very close to a stream, theoretically about 50’ from the 100 year flood line… I know our parkinglot had about a foot or so of water in it overnight (I stashed my car down the street in a parking garage due to the prediction of hail).
Anyway if you have this coming and are anywhere near a flood zone, or can get bad run off, move your crap/car out of the potential way before it hits. According to our morning news projected rain levels aren’t any lower for you than they were for us.
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Hope all is okay. I’m also in MS, my rain gauge claims 7.5" last night. Thankfully we’re on a hill!
@thefjordkeeper That was some storm last night wasn’t it? Spectacular thunder and lightening (I now need a nap). Glad you live on a hill and are dry! Are the lower lying areas around you flooded? Here the streams and rivers are over their banks in flood stage and the storm sewer system is/was overwhelmed by the runoff (what caused the problem in our parking lot).
I just came from my storage unit and it is dry although all the run off “ponds” and ditches around it are full/overflowing. So definitely not a 100 year flood since it the storage unit is about 50’ from the edge of that according to FEMA maps, but certainly enough.
I then made a “rubbernecking” detour over to the reservoir after checking on my stuff. Pretty spectacular where they opened the dam on the reservoir - zillions of seagulls packed in on top of a stone pile meant to block flooding of the parking lot (that was a fail, that is flooded over the signs). No place to pull over and take a photo or I would have.
@Kidsandliz yeah, I hate when that happens. (lost photo op). Came home last week to find an adult brown owl sitting in the middle of the road in front of my mailbox at 2330. Almost hit the damn thing, and it just fluttered up into the trees across the street. Since I back into my drive I lit it up with the headlights. Got my camera out and it flew BACK INTO THE ROAD… I did manage to get a quick shot with the DSLR but didn’t have time to get my better flash out so it was pretty dark. Owl flew back into the trees and then into the woods.
Unfortunately, it must have decided to get back in the road later since I found it hit by a car the next morning. Bummer.
@chienfou That is sad.
@Kidsandliz I was pretty bummed as well. The last time I hit an owl I was driving a fire truck to a call at night and I found it in the grill when we got back to the station…
just starting to rain here… all the schools in most of west AL cancelled for the day. This starts my 7 days off cycle so no biggie for me. Time for coffee and rain-watching!
@chienfou Guess they learned from what happened here. LOL The amount of rain here was very under predicted until we were in the middle of it. Well enjoy. Hopefully you are out of harm’s way.
Yeah, house is up hill, but barn/shop is at bottom of hill. Actually get standing water in lower part of yard if it rains alot,(usually over several days), even though we are not too far from a river (but way too high to get flooded by the river, even without the dams). Have considered imploring the neighbor to let me pay to have a drainage ditch a few hundred yards long cut through the bamboo to allow better drainage. It only happens every few years but with ‘climate change’ that may be a necessity in the not too distant future if I want to keep the shop dry and the upcoming chicken coop from being a place better suited for ducks!
First wave just went through… 3/8" in 15 minutes… waiting for the bulk of the storm to hit in another hour or so.
@chienfou That sounds about right. We had nearly 3" in less than an hour after the relatively mild first wave went through.
@Kidsandliz well, that was a ‘wash out’ so to speak… only 1 inch and no real storm to speak of…
@chienfou Well that is good. Since they significantly under predicted here I guess they over predicted where you are. Of course now all the people who cancelled school feel stupid I am sure.
@Kidsandliz yeah,the last few cancellations have been for naught, but at least my wife got the day off out of it!
@chienfou Hopefully a paid day out of it that didn’t come out of her personal/sick/vacation days.
@Kidsandliz yep, if they call it off it’s on their dime. Plus since they are a private/church school they technically don’t have to make up the day…
Wow, our annual rainfall is 9". We had a 100 year storm about 10 years ago which dropped a little over 2" in one day and it washed out an earthen dam and took out the neighborhood behind it, damaged thousands of homes and did millions in damage to public streets and drainage. Our terrain is mountainous with arroyos which results in fast moving water. It came down one steep street, tearing out the median landscaping as it went, hit a Blockbuster store halfway down the hill and tore it off its foundation, and that debris destroyed several homes behind it. Almost no one escaped with no damage. I think 8" in one day would wipe us out completely. I hope you folks in the wetter part of the world are all okay.
@moondrake
Yeah. About that…
@someRiverNoise We noted the irony at the time.
@moondrake funny how much of a difference there is about what constitutes “scary/dangerous/crazy” weather.
which is what I immediately thought…
@chienfou Sorry, should have said “below” it. Our ubiquitous rock walls became problems for a lot of people. Those in lower areas without gates to let the water out filled up. My coworker got home and found her house dry, but her yard was 5’ deep and there was water halfway up the back windows. Her husband hammered a screwdriver through the cement in a few places to let the water drain slowly. Another coworker came home to waist deep water in her house. One family came home and found their German shepherd drowned in her own yard. Newer rock walls have pvc pipes at the base to drain water, but older homes do not.
@moondrake yeah. it only seems obvious after it’s too late!
This is why new construction on the beach in the gulf is on stilts. Water from hurricane storm surge can go around the pilings but doesn’t actually reach the building itself. If there are any walls on the ground level they are made to break out and let water flow through. The only problem is if your beach erodes back ‘behind’ (landward side) your house and leaves it out on stilts in the water!
In the old days of single story cinderblock homes you just took the door off the front and back of the house and let it run through it. Then hosed out the mud and dead fish afterwards…
@chienfou
When I was a kid we used to stay in one of those stilt houses every summer for a week or so. The “neighborhood of stilt houses” always survived the hurricanes.
@chienfou
Galveston. 1900.
Somewhere between 6000-20000 dead. 6000 confirmed. They never knew the full count. Worst natural disaster so far, in American history.
The storm surge went a few feet into the second floor of houses and buildings that had second floors. It was strong enough to carry or knock buildings - big ones - right off their foundations.
Basically no one who wasn’t on a second floor of a surviving building lived.
I think one of my grandmothers was there and survived as a pre-schooler. She had to survive, I think, cholera, right after that, as did many who lived thru the entire devastation. If it wasn’t her, it was some relative at that time. One of my brothers is meeting the other members of that branch of the family right now.
Now the entire center of the island is about 20-30 feet higher than it used to be. They brought in soil and jacked up the surviving buildings and built a seawall. During recent hurricanes, the storm surge did not get that near to the top of the seawall.
Before the hurricane, Galveston was a busier port that either Houston or Corpus Christi. Afterwards … a resort and beach town after it was rebuilt. Never again a busy port.
@f00l National Geographic has a series called Perfect Storms, and the Galveston one was the first episide, “America’s Deadly Disaster”. They were all very interesting, but the one I found most affecting was episode 3, “Fire Twister”. “Nearly 140,000 people die on Sept. 1, 1923, when a magnitude 7.9 earthquake ravages Japan and strong winds create an ensuing massive firestorm”. There were some unforgettable firsthand accounts from survivors in the documentary.
@moondrake
Someday look up the Years Without A Summer.
Due to volcanic exposions around Indonesia that threw so much dust into the air that the entire planet cooled off for a year. People died all over the world due to starvation for a year or two. There were two of them in the 1800’s.
Tambora, 1815, caused a “death year” in 1816.
Krakatoa, 1883.
@f00l one of my mom’s uncles helped design and build that seawall. And a bunch on the MS river.
@f00l I was familiar with the phenomenon surrounding Krakatoa, I became fascinated with it as a teen. I hadn’t heard of Tambora.
@Kidsandliz
Thanks to your relative then.
maybe you can try this next time:
Just passed through Pensacola…
Well, that was a bust. Got about 1" total and looks like that’s gonna be it for the day. I could have used another couple of inches at least. Guess I can put out the sprinkler tomorrow
Watching this on the news.
They say that at least 4 people have died. One was someone in a car trapped in water.
@PlacidPenguin Yeah the car death was around here. She called 911 and by the time they got there the car was completely submerged in the overflowed creek. Sad.
Round two was last night. Went north of us, but did get 1/2 inch of rain, lots of wind and lightening locally. Schools cancelled (again) for the day! Missed a $2 TMo credit at DunkinDonuts cause they closed early…Crap!
Are our storms getting increasingly violent, as predicted as a result of climate change? Any weather experts?
I really am not sure if it’s worse storms or better reporting. Sort of like cancer death increases. Some is definitely environmentally caused, but some is also because we are living long enough to develop cancer. Same with dementia/Alzheimer’s. If you don’t get killed off by flu/pneumonia/cholera or whatever, you live long enough that some of these illnesses associated (primarily) with the aged have a chance to take you out.