@phendrick@yakkoTDI But if it gets wet enough to brick the phone, it doesn’t matter what else was in the toilet.
(I don’t know how water resistant the modern phones are; can they survive a few seconds submerged? I know that some used to void their warranty just by getting too humid.)
@phendrick@xobzoo@yakkoTDI
Apple phones were 1m depth but higher models were 2m depth. Even if it’s a toilet! Ultra watch is rated for 100m and can work as a dive watch. But if you’re in a toilet 100m deep you’re in deep shit.
Got 9 years out of my Galaxy S3 and am now on the second mobile phone of my life. Kept it going with LineageOS and only upgraded because I wanted a camera that wasn’t a joke.
I just Upgraded my iPhone 6s this time last year. It’s battery was going bad & needed to be replaced. Not worth the cost of a battery.
So I got a iPhone 12 (not a Max or Pro)
But I needed to nearly relearn how to use it as the 12 did NOT have a home button.
@mycya4me Re-learning the interface is the 2nd-worst part of a new phone (after the price tag). It’s worse if you switch ecosystems (iOS ↔︎ Android), but is still very disorienting just getting newer versions of what you had. (Android might suffer more from that when switching manufacturers, since they each have their own unique modifications.)
As the tech wizard in the household I’m expected to know how to do everything everywhere, but that’s getting harder each year.
@mycya4me Yikes. I just got a refurbished iPhone 12 Pro and it hasn’t even arrived yet, but I hadn’t noticed that. It’s going to be hard for me to adjust to too, I’m sure.
I currently have a 7s, but it’s getting kind of balky.
@mycya4me@xobzoo I used to be the “tech wizard in the household … expected to know how to do everything everywhere” but now I’m old and grumpy enough to say “yeah, I think it has some way to do that, haven’t bothered to figure it out.”
My mother comments on my lack of patience when trying to teach her any tech stuff, so now she just mocks me and has other people help her who still have patience. And she’s 95, so you think I would be a better son…
@pmarin@xobzoo I check out I FIX IT before I say yea or Nay to fixing the item in question, Do I want to attempt to fix it, What is it value, or just abandon/ Junk it!
Being that I am a Geeky Nerd & been done Corr. computer repair (hardware) for over 20 years…
@Kyeh I do like the using the pad for charging! BUT don’t like there is Zero headphone jack!
Did I say NO home button.
But I have got used to it pretty much…
@katbyter I found out that the 6s is worthless to most & no one would trade me for it! Two since I use a different carrier (not one of the big 3, a no frills one) they still did NOT want to deal. So I just just got a Refreb & yep the carrier
As old developers say, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. I upgraded my phone last black Friday. I went from a galaxy S9 to S23. The S9 was losing some minor features like being able to create customized chirps for text groups and the battery was going bad.
@ironcheftoni I made the mistake of upgrading from an S22 to an S24+ and now most of my favorite OG apps don’t work because Android 14 no longer has 32-bit support. They were great apps and I haven’t found comparable 64-bit replacements. Very sad.
Ah, I still carry my Pixel 4a. It needs a new battery (it only remains on if plugged in). That I’ll get around to (because it costs as much as buying a new 4a). I’m not looking forward to my next phone. It’s probably going to look like the Pixel 8 Pro: a giant brick (and weigh as 50% more than this phone)
My big gripe, other then some parts of any phone just not working as advertised (screen, charging port, wifi, etc.), is that modern phones are just not durable like my old candybar/clamshell Nokia was. I bought like six batteries for that thing because it was still functioning and just needed new batteries.
It doesn’t help I still keep my previous phones around as tools (my LG G2 is a TV remote; my Samsung A01 is a standalone alarm clock/radio/media device).
I used a Windows Phone until it was EOL, then went through a couple Moto phones because they were cheap. Currently using a Samsung A53 5G as Samsung offers 4 years of security updates.
@narfcake Nope I have used iPhone well after any O/S upgrades are offered, only some security updates.
Being an Computer Mechanic (Corp Hardware) so you see all the issues with ALL the stuff. I like the security of the iPhone & Apple products. Plus I only try to buy Open Box or referb. That way you get Quality hardware @ Great Price.
@mycya4me The frugal part of me doesn’t work well with Apple products. My current phone was the most expensive at $150-ish from Amazon Warehouse; the cheapest was $10 brand new – because Windows Phone.
When the one I’m currently using becomes well and truly unrepairable or unusable. Past examples included the battery pillowing and splitting the case apart, the device no longer having enough RAM to run current apps, and the phone being stolen.
@PooltoyWolf I have had the battery pillow in my Galaxy phones. The first time it happened I had the battery replaced because I was using the phone as a trade-in. The second time I just threw out the phone because I was afraid it might explode and I wasn’t using it anyway.
@heartny I’ve been all Galaxy since my S5 but the only pillowed battery I experienced was in my S7 Active…and I still think it was from the excessive heat generated from lots of wireless charging. (Why I seldom do that anymore.)
I buy refurbished phones (usually from Woot!) and use them until they become annoying: Either the battery doesn’t last long or it runs out of space.
Currently still loving my Pixel 3a XL purchased January 2020 because the battery lasts 2+ days.
@callow@YoMommaIsSo Many preinstalled apps can’t be uninstalled, although they can often be rolled back to the version that came with the phone. This can cut their size in half. For a lot of people, moving photos off of the phone will free up more than app uninstalls.
@werehatrack@YoMommaIsSo Thanks but when you have to charge more than once daily, constantly clear the cache, pick and choose which apps to keep, while your photos are on an SD card, it’s time for a new (used) phone.
@callow@chienfou Just one of the reasons my personal and work cells are last, last, last generation midrange models. Still have headphone jacks, microsd slot and works well enough to take calls, photos, get emails and make the occasional Meh purchase on. It was bad enough that they took away the easily replaceable battery, but I’m not going to pay the soldered RAM upgrade tax until they completely stop making phones with a microsd slot.
I get my husband’s hand-me-downs when he upgrades, which is fine with me. Once in a while he’ll just get the latest one for both of us, if he’s gone a long time without upgrading. I have the iPhone 11 pro now, and still loving it.
Every year, when work gives me a newest one . Kiddo gets the hand me down. Although, word has it, they’re going to move to a two-year replacement for this coming year. ¯\(ツ)/¯
Sometimes I haven’t upgraded, I just found a replacement of the same model I was using. I will most likely be buying a temp-controlled heating surface next year so that I can replace batteries and such. I loathe having to entrust my device to a third party after the warranty runs out, and “service contracts” are generally a ripoff.
It’s variable. I always have a working older model, now. Good for if your main gives up the ghost (like my Pixel 3XL). Also gives you something to order its replacement from. My Surface Duo has a cracked back, but that doesn’t affect operability. The camera is crap, and CPU rather slow, so I opted for a newer phone. I love the paperback book-style format, but the hardware is rather… meh.
Actually last year when Verizon offered us deals on phone upgrades without having to upgrade our plans-my wife got a iphone 15 for just an extra $ 100 with trade-in and I got an even better deal of a Samsung S23+ for free with the trade in of my Samsung S20 ultra which I had purchased on ebay for $ 400 two years before.
Reps told us in both cases they had never seen trade in offers like that without requiring plan upgrades-probably because we had been with Verizon for over 20 years.
@Felton10 That’s how I got my S24+ too. I was able to trade in an old S10 even though I also have an S22. I’ll keep the S22 as a backup. I only did the deal because I could keep my old plan that includes Disney+ and Hulu, neither of which I use, but it’s nice to know they are there and free. I did upgrade the memory to 512GB, so I am paying something for the new phone. And I did get the phone in purple.
I upgrade my phone when I accidentally break the screen trying to change the battery myself to “save money”.
Current phone is 3 and still going strong. This seems to be about the average life where I kill my phone, but this one is still strong and healthy and hopefully will last another 3 years. Been only slow-charging my battery at night (now I finally have a phone with a battery that can last all day)- battery still seems as good as day one.
I think that’s the trick to long and happy phone life… use the slowest chargers and don’t use those awful wireless chargers that kill batteries quickly.
I’m a big dork. I’ve been doing IT for 25 years. My dirty little geek secret is I’ve never had a personal cell phone. Ever.
I have all the other geeky things… an Atari 2600 connected to a curved 65" TV, way too many big monitors stacked in odd ways, a 3D printer that is pretty much used for printing Mandalorian armor, an arcade machine with all the 80’s coin-op games I played (it’s important to teach your children the classics).
I’ve always had a phone provided by my employer. It’s a tool. I’ve rebooted Oracle servers while coaching first base on it, but I don’t like them. It bothers me, probably too much, but seeing people glued to those tiny screens in public and missing the world around them makes me sad.
If I’m in a line and everyone is on their phones I try to disrupt things. First question: ‘How’s your day going?’ (I also wear a cowboy hat, so that’s a curveball. ) If they take their eyes off their phone and respond, the follow up question is ‘Is your family doing well?’. That normally starts a conversation that doesn’t need the phone. I’ve met a lot of nice random people that way. I’m an extroverted introvert, so I don’t mind trying to engage in conversation, but I hope the other party runs with it… heh.
Generally it’s a combination of battery life and EOL security support. Even then I often wait half a year to a year past that point then generally buy a refurb. I try to maximize the amount of time left on security updates as best I can. Price versus quality and all that stuff. Been pretty much in the Samsung environment for the last few iterations. Must say I do miss the idea of having a SD card available since they were way cheaper than upgrading the memory in the phone itself. I also miss the days of do-it-yourself simple battery changes. “Waterproof” is nice, but I can’t think of any time I’ve ever actually dropped my phone in water. It stays in a case and rarely even hits the floor. Much less landing in water!
That being said, I’m currently toying with changing out my S10 but I have way too much other crap on my agenda to deal with it right now. Not a big cloud person so having to move everything from one phone to the other can be somewhat tedious.
When it falls in the toilet.
@phendrick That is only a good excuse if the contents were more than H2O.
@phendrick @yakkoTDI But if it gets wet enough to brick the phone, it doesn’t matter what else was in the toilet.
(I don’t know how water resistant the modern phones are; can they survive a few seconds submerged? I know that some used to void their warranty just by getting too humid.)
@phendrick @xobzoo @yakkoTDI
Apple phones were 1m depth but higher models were 2m depth. Even if it’s a toilet! Ultra watch is rated for 100m and can work as a dive watch. But if you’re in a toilet 100m deep you’re in deep shit.
When I get around to it. The last one made it almost 5 years.
Got 9 years out of my Galaxy S3 and am now on the second mobile phone of my life. Kept it going with LineageOS and only upgraded because I wanted a camera that wasn’t a joke.
I just Upgraded my iPhone 6s this time last year. It’s battery was going bad & needed to be replaced. Not worth the cost of a battery.
So I got a iPhone 12 (not a Max or Pro)
But I needed to nearly relearn how to use it as the 12 did NOT have a home button.
@mycya4me Re-learning the interface is the 2nd-worst part of a new phone (after the price tag). It’s worse if you switch ecosystems (iOS ↔︎ Android), but is still very disorienting just getting newer versions of what you had. (Android might suffer more from that when switching manufacturers, since they each have their own unique modifications.)
As the tech wizard in the household I’m expected to know how to do everything everywhere, but that’s getting harder each year.
I was curious, so…
(doesn’t look like me at all, but I like it!)
Round 2 is much closer to how I see myself, though still off:
@mycya4me Yikes. I just got a refurbished iPhone 12 Pro and it hasn’t even arrived yet, but I hadn’t noticed that. It’s going to be hard for me to adjust to too, I’m sure.
I currently have a 7s, but it’s getting kind of balky.
@mycya4me I’m on my SE because it has the home button. That’s a surprisingly hard transition.
@mycya4me, I have the SE and it has a home button.
@mycya4me @xobzoo I used to be the “tech wizard in the household … expected to know how to do everything everywhere” but now I’m old and grumpy enough to say “yeah, I think it has some way to do that, haven’t bothered to figure it out.”
My mother comments on my lack of patience when trying to teach her any tech stuff, so now she just mocks me and has other people help her who still have patience. And she’s 95, so you think I would be a better son…
@pmarin @xobzoo I check out I FIX IT before I say yea or Nay to fixing the item in question, Do I want to attempt to fix it, What is it value, or just abandon/ Junk it!
Being that I am a Geeky Nerd & been done Corr. computer repair (hardware) for over 20 years…
@Kyeh I do like the using the pad for charging! BUT don’t like there is Zero headphone jack!
Did I say NO home button.
But I have got used to it pretty much…
@katbyter I found out that the 6s is worthless to most & no one would trade me for it! Two since I use a different carrier (not one of the big 3, a no frills one) they still did NOT want to deal. So I just just got a Refreb & yep the carrier
@xobzoo Yep 1 is closer to my Age, But don’t have a Suntan. #2 is closer to me But way too young!
As old developers say, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. I upgraded my phone last black Friday. I went from a galaxy S9 to S23. The S9 was losing some minor features like being able to create customized chirps for text groups and the battery was going bad.
@ironcheftoni I made the mistake of upgrading from an S22 to an S24+ and now most of my favorite OG apps don’t work because Android 14 no longer has 32-bit support. They were great apps and I haven’t found comparable 64-bit replacements. Very sad.
@heartny @ironcheftoni Duly noted, thanks for that heads-up!!
Ah, I still carry my Pixel 4a. It needs a new battery (it only remains on if plugged in). That I’ll get around to (because it costs as much as buying a new 4a). I’m not looking forward to my next phone. It’s probably going to look like the Pixel 8 Pro: a giant brick (and weigh as 50% more than this phone)
My big gripe, other then some parts of any phone just not working as advertised (screen, charging port, wifi, etc.), is that modern phones are just not durable like my old candybar/clamshell Nokia was. I bought like six batteries for that thing because it was still functioning and just needed new batteries.
It doesn’t help I still keep my previous phones around as tools (my LG G2 is a TV remote; my Samsung A01 is a standalone alarm clock/radio/media device).
When the OS is no longer supported.
I used a Windows Phone until it was EOL, then went through a couple Moto phones because they were cheap. Currently using a Samsung A53 5G as Samsung offers 4 years of security updates.
@narfcake Nope I have used iPhone well after any O/S upgrades are offered, only some security updates.
Being an Computer Mechanic (Corp Hardware) so you see all the issues with ALL the stuff. I like the security of the iPhone & Apple products. Plus I only try to buy Open Box or referb. That way you get Quality hardware @ Great Price.
@mycya4me The frugal part of me doesn’t work well with Apple products. My current phone was the most expensive at $150-ish from Amazon Warehouse; the cheapest was $10 brand new – because Windows Phone.
Every new iPhone. The cameras get better each time.
When the goat destroys it.
2nd render:
4th render, possibly my favorite despite no actual chewing going on:
When the one I’m currently using becomes well and truly unrepairable or unusable. Past examples included the battery pillowing and splitting the case apart, the device no longer having enough RAM to run current apps, and the phone being stolen.
@PooltoyWolf I have had the battery pillow in my Galaxy phones. The first time it happened I had the battery replaced because I was using the phone as a trade-in. The second time I just threw out the phone because I was afraid it might explode and I wasn’t using it anyway.
@heartny I’ve been all Galaxy since my S5 but the only pillowed battery I experienced was in my S7 Active…and I still think it was from the excessive heat generated from lots of wireless charging. (Why I seldom do that anymore.)
I buy refurbished phones (usually from Woot!) and use them until they become annoying: Either the battery doesn’t last long or it runs out of space.
Currently still loving my Pixel 3a XL purchased January 2020 because the battery lasts 2+ days.
@callow you do rea,like you can clear up space by deleting crap you’re not using don’t have to throw away
@YoMommaIsSo I’m well aware. Apps get bigger and needier all the time, eventually the phone doesn’t cut it.
@callow @YoMommaIsSo Many preinstalled apps can’t be uninstalled, although they can often be rolled back to the version that came with the phone. This can cut their size in half. For a lot of people, moving photos off of the phone will free up more than app uninstalls.
@werehatrack @YoMommaIsSo Thanks but when you have to charge more than once daily, constantly clear the cache, pick and choose which apps to keep, while your photos are on an SD card, it’s time for a new (used) phone.
@callow @werehatrack @YoMommaIsSo .
And it seems that SD cards are becoming a thing of the past as well…
@chienfou Remember when we could install apps to the SD card? I was furious when they stopped that.
@callow
Yep, that was nice. Plus the difference in price for the same amount of memory is HUGE between “built into” phone or “popped in” by microSD.
@callow @chienfou Just one of the reasons my personal and work cells are last, last, last generation midrange models. Still have headphone jacks, microsd slot and works well enough to take calls, photos, get emails and make the occasional Meh purchase on. It was bad enough that they took away the easily replaceable battery, but I’m not going to pay the soldered RAM upgrade tax until they completely stop making phones with a microsd slot.
KuoH
I get my husband’s hand-me-downs when he upgrades, which is fine with me. Once in a while he’ll just get the latest one for both of us, if he’s gone a long time without upgrading. I have the iPhone 11 pro now, and still loving it.
Every year, when work gives me a newest one
. Kiddo gets the hand me down. Although, word has it, they’re going to move to a two-year replacement for this coming year. ¯\(ツ)/¯
Sometimes I haven’t upgraded, I just found a replacement of the same model I was using. I will most likely be buying a temp-controlled heating surface next year so that I can replace batteries and such. I loathe having to entrust my device to a third party after the warranty runs out, and “service contracts” are generally a ripoff.
When my employer tells me to. They pay for the phone and service.
It’s variable. I always have a working older model, now. Good for if your main gives up the ghost (like my Pixel 3XL). Also gives you something to order its replacement from. My Surface Duo has a cracked back, but that doesn’t affect operability. The camera is crap, and CPU rather slow, so I opted for a newer phone. I love the paperback book-style format, but the hardware is rather… meh.
Actually last year when Verizon offered us deals on phone upgrades without having to upgrade our plans-my wife got a iphone 15 for just an extra $ 100 with trade-in and I got an even better deal of a Samsung S23+ for free with the trade in of my Samsung S20 ultra which I had purchased on ebay for $ 400 two years before.
Reps told us in both cases they had never seen trade in offers like that without requiring plan upgrades-probably because we had been with Verizon for over 20 years.
@Felton10 That’s how I got my S24+ too. I was able to trade in an old S10 even though I also have an S22. I’ll keep the S22 as a backup. I only did the deal because I could keep my old plan that includes Disney+ and Hulu, neither of which I use, but it’s nice to know they are there and free. I did upgrade the memory to 512GB, so I am paying something for the new phone. And I did get the phone in purple.
I upgrade my phone when I accidentally break the screen trying to change the battery myself to “save money”.
Current phone is 3 and still going strong. This seems to be about the average life where I kill my phone, but this one is still strong and healthy and hopefully will last another 3 years. Been only slow-charging my battery at night (now I finally have a phone with a battery that can last all day)- battery still seems as good as day one.
I think that’s the trick to long and happy phone life… use the slowest chargers and don’t use those awful wireless chargers that kill batteries quickly.
I’m a big dork. I’ve been doing IT for 25 years. My dirty little geek secret is I’ve never had a personal cell phone. Ever.
I have all the other geeky things… an Atari 2600 connected to a curved 65" TV, way too many big monitors stacked in odd ways, a 3D printer that is pretty much used for printing Mandalorian armor, an arcade machine with all the 80’s coin-op games I played (it’s important to teach your children the classics).
I’ve always had a phone provided by my employer. It’s a tool. I’ve rebooted Oracle servers while coaching first base on it, but I don’t like them. It bothers me, probably too much, but seeing people glued to those tiny screens in public and missing the world around them makes me sad.
If I’m in a line and everyone is on their phones I try to disrupt things. First question: ‘How’s your day going?’ (I also wear a cowboy hat, so that’s a curveball.
) If they take their eyes off their phone and respond, the follow up question is ‘Is your family doing well?’. That normally starts a conversation that doesn’t need the phone. I’ve met a lot of nice random people that way. I’m an extroverted introvert, so I don’t mind trying to engage in conversation, but I hope the other party runs with it… heh.
But yeah, I’m still a big dork.
@capnjb
When it decides it’s had enough.
KuoH
Generally it’s a combination of battery life and EOL security support. Even then I often wait half a year to a year past that point then generally buy a refurb. I try to maximize the amount of time left on security updates as best I can. Price versus quality and all that stuff. Been pretty much in the Samsung environment for the last few iterations. Must say I do miss the idea of having a SD card available since they were way cheaper than upgrading the memory in the phone itself. I also miss the days of do-it-yourself simple battery changes. “Waterproof” is nice, but I can’t think of any time I’ve ever actually dropped my phone in water. It stays in a case and rarely even hits the floor. Much less landing in water!
That being said, I’m currently toying with changing out my S10 but I have way too much other crap on my agenda to deal with it right now. Not a big cloud person so having to move everything from one phone to the other can be somewhat tedious.