@macromeh@pmarin
I made it to the end! Not too hard if you leave it on while doing other things. Where do I receive those bonus points and what can I spend them on?
That “Time’s Encomium” reminds me quite a lot of the Stockhausen ‘music’ I used to listen to, starting while in college (of course). https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2007-dec-08-me-stockhausen8-story.html
“The Bay Area, then becoming a hippy haven, had a new radicalizing effect on Stockhausen. […] although he apparently rejected drugs.” I think some would dispute that.
I think Stockhausen’s personality would have fit in with a lot of the people on these fora.
Small sample, but perhaps quite a bit more avant- garde and better accepted than what I used to listen to (there are serious people in the audience!):
Quite a bit more there on YT, for enthusiasts.
I encountered Stockhausen while researching Wendy (ne(e?) Walter) Carlos, who did the original musical compositions for the score of "A Clockwork Orange), a score I was quite fond of.
[I’m a little behind on my PCness, pronouns, etc., so what is better here, ‘ne’ or ‘nee’? Any socially-progressive experts here to enlighten me?]
@Kyeh@ybmuG That was a fun read! Not sure why I had abandoned listening to Stockhausen. (He would not have been amused.) Just got busy with other things (life?) maybe.
I lost a lot of things in a house fire and its aftermath, a few years ago. Not sure what happened to the open reel recorder I’d had. And had lots of 2-, 4-, or 6-hour tapes with it including a fair number of Stockhausen pieces that I got who-who-knows-where. I’ll have to do some digging through storage, if I ever get caught up with more important things.
Most of us end up going with pronouns that don’t cause brain exception fault errors. In a more perfect world, I would cheerfully have gone with gender neutral pronouns and a feminine presentation. But our society does not encompass the ability to process that, and I’m perfectly happy with going full on feminine, so that’s what I did. And right at this very moment, I am sitting in a doctor’s office where a large amount of the work to align my appearance to my pronouns is in process.
@werehatrack I really wish something other than “they/them” had become the accepted terminology because it’s just so damn confusing to hear a plural and be wondering why the second person isn’t being mentioned. I’m willing to use the pronouns that matter to a person but the plurals are so awkward.
@Kyeh In my case, I didn’t really have a firm grasp of just exactly how much I needed the other pronouns until I finally started getting them. It’s validation. It’s validation that has been over 60 years in coming. Along the way, I got pretty damn good at playing the other role. But I dare not even stop to think about all of the things that I missed along the way. So I just have to figure that the good bits of the role play will have to be all the substitute I get for the parts that I would have wanted to have instead.
With music by Tom Lehrer?
@rockblossom Or John Cage.
@Kyeh Yup! Goes well with a Lynch video.
@Kyeh @rockblossom Finally! A piano solo that I could perform.
@rockblossom or Phillip Glass
@ironcheftoni @rockblossom That was my first suggestion, but I edited it because Cage is even stranger.
/youtube Koyaanisqatsi - Philip Glass
@pmarin And now I finally get the reference!
About 3:50 into the Prelude to Einstein on the Fritz:
(I think PDQ Bach was the primary contributor to my life’s soundtrack.)
@pmarin
Charles Wuorinen: Time’s Encomium
Extra points if you make it to the end.
@macromeh @pmarin
I made it to the end! Not too hard if you leave it on while doing other things. Where do I receive those bonus points and what can I spend them on?
That “Time’s Encomium” reminds me quite a lot of the Stockhausen ‘music’ I used to listen to, starting while in college (of course).
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2007-dec-08-me-stockhausen8-story.html
“The Bay Area, then becoming a hippy haven, had a new radicalizing effect on Stockhausen. […] although he apparently rejected drugs.” I think some would dispute that.
I think Stockhausen’s personality would have fit in with a lot of the people on these fora.
Small sample, but perhaps quite a bit more avant- garde and better accepted than what I used to listen to (there are serious people in the audience!):
Quite a bit more there on YT, for enthusiasts.
I encountered Stockhausen while researching Wendy (ne(e?) Walter) Carlos, who did the original musical compositions for the score of "A Clockwork Orange), a score I was quite fond of.
[I’m a little behind on my PCness, pronouns, etc., so what is better here, ‘ne’ or ‘nee’? Any socially-progressive experts here to enlighten me?]
@phendrick @pmarin Here you go:
@macromeh @phendrick @pmarin
I’ve had to deal with devising a way to enclose Stockhausen scores for the university music library - it’s a huge challenge (literally - they’re BIG!) But they’re very cool-looking:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7QnR48Iii6c/VXWnsN2BGxI/AAAAAAAAIPA/i8Kn4qFfu9Q/s1600/Refrain%2Bin%2Bmotion%2B%2528Stockhausen%2529blue.gif
The link is better because it goes to a gif but I can’t get that to show up here.
@Kyeh I think that’s called Stockhausen Syndrome
@ybmuG
https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3772977744_65
https://stocksyndrome.bandcamp.com/album/level-plane-field
Also:
@Kyeh oh that’s awe-some - i had no idea!
@ybmuG I didn’t either! I thought your comment was super clever and just looked it up on a whim and found them.
@Kyeh @ybmuG That was a fun read! Not sure why I had abandoned listening to Stockhausen. (He would not have been amused.) Just got busy with other things (life?) maybe.
I lost a lot of things in a house fire and its aftermath, a few years ago. Not sure what happened to the open reel recorder I’d had. And had lots of 2-, 4-, or 6-hour tapes with it including a fair number of Stockhausen pieces that I got who-who-knows-where. I’ll have to do some digging through storage, if I ever get caught up with more important things.
@pmarin @xobzoo In many respects, I feel that Schickele did a better job of Glass than Glass did.
Most of us end up going with pronouns that don’t cause brain exception fault errors. In a more perfect world, I would cheerfully have gone with gender neutral pronouns and a feminine presentation. But our society does not encompass the ability to process that, and I’m perfectly happy with going full on feminine, so that’s what I did. And right at this very moment, I am sitting in a doctor’s office where a large amount of the work to align my appearance to my pronouns is in process.
@werehatrack I really wish something other than “they/them” had become the accepted terminology because it’s just so damn confusing to hear a plural and be wondering why the second person isn’t being mentioned. I’m willing to use the pronouns that matter to a person but the plurals are so awkward.
@Kyeh In my case, I didn’t really have a firm grasp of just exactly how much I needed the other pronouns until I finally started getting them. It’s validation. It’s validation that has been over 60 years in coming. Along the way, I got pretty damn good at playing the other role. But I dare not even stop to think about all of the things that I missed along the way. So I just have to figure that the good bits of the role play will have to be all the substitute I get for the parts that I would have wanted to have instead.
@werehatrack Yeah, I can see how you wouldn’t want to dwell on it much. It sounds like you’ve had a pretty interesting life despite it, though.