@chienfou@Ziggie Yeah. And the water sublimates. I had that problem in NW Ontario. I learned the hard way you do NOT hit your frozen jeans against a tree to get ice off them. Let’s just say you then had shorts.
Of course as a kid I also learned that the hard way walking home from Saturday morning swimming lessons 3/4 a mile in the snow belt. My hair would freeze. I’d break off hair icicles. My mother was not pleased.
@Kidsandliz@Ziggie
Went to Chicago in the dead of winter one time in the early 80’s. Hotel had an indoor/outdoor pool that was separated by a vertical glass wall across the surface of the water. You could swim out under the bottom edge and be outside. Hair froze in short order!
It drepends on what I was doing that day. Sweaty work? They get washed. Dirt-attracting stuff? Into the Maytag. Cruising YouTube for the secret to making short work of my next bid for world domination? They can go another day.
Jeans are way too restrictive of free movement. I switched to some canvas work pants that a local farm and ranch store sells. They are very comfortable and have some stretch. Plus, if you wear a dress shirt and nice shoes they can pass as slacks. Best of all they go on sale for $25 pretty often.
@brennyn@Star2236 Real denim can go a long time between washes if you aren’t doing things that are really filthy.
But “stretch denim” and other variants that aren’t 100% cotton can start to stink very quickly.
@Kidsandliz@Salanth actually I think it’s the opposite. they were originally made for cowboys in France (yes there is such a thing) and the concept brought to the US for miners, loggers, and railroad workers. I would assume that on rare occasions they might have washed their undergarments. The Jeans, much less.
If you don’t believe me about the French cowboys, look up fabric de Nimes, a city in South France. hence the term « denim »
Once a week(ish), after sniff testing, depending on the level of work they saw. People that wash their jeans everytime are the same people that put their butter dish in the fridge - it’s madness.
Amen! It spreads so much better at room temp. Also, those folks have a come apart when they see fresh eggs sitting on a shelf in the grocery store at room temp, like in Europe…
Cleaning the eggs removes the cuticle, so the eggs must be kept at refrigeration temperature. Otherwise, the bacteria could easily enter the egg and multiply to dangerous levels. By keeping it out of the danger zone, salmonella can’t multiply rapidly. Most other countries do not wash their eggs. https://www.statefoodsafety.com/Resources/Resources/why-do-americans-put-eggs-in-the-fridge
@chienfou@zinimusprime When you live where it’s warm enough, you put butter in the fridge or it gets nasty before you use it up. Most of the US is warmer than Europe. A/C can make it practical to leave the butter out if you run the temp low enough.
@chienfou@Kyeh@zinimusprime We have chickens. We keep the eggs in the garage during the cooler months and in the pantry (in air conditioned space) in the warmer months. They get washed when we use/sell/trade/gift a new dozen. The washed eggs in use are then kept in the refrigerator. Never had a problem.
They are made of cotton, so I use the same system as for whatever else I have made from cotton. And I launder them just like everything else made of cotton: cold water, mild soap, line dry or in the dryer set to lowest heat setting, or no heat. And they don’t wear out or fade any faster/slower than any of the other cotton things I have. Why the hype about jeans being “special”?
@rockblossom The hype about jeans mostly only applies to indigo-dyed raw denim. If you buy a pair and wear them a lot but don’t wash them too often they get cool fade patterns.
These are the fade patterns that a lot of “normal” fashion jeans try to fake. Those horizontal lines around the crotch on the jeans on offer today are an example of this.
@ircon96@Limewater Yeah, I’m a Geezer. To me, denim is for work clothes, not “fashion” jeans. All of the stuff done to make new jeans look worn just strikes me as silly, and I remain unimpressed.
@Limewater@rockblossom +1 on intense dislike for the practice of selling pre-damaged clothing at full or even inflated prices, and treating it as a “feature”. Worse, the damage often utterly fails to accurately mimic the kind of in-use wear patterns that would have been likely to develop. Even more ludicrous, however, is the current (or recent?) fad for making denim skirts with a front seam that’s contrived to look like what would be obtained by piecing together the wreckage of a pair of jeans whose inseams had been completely ripped open. That, and unhemmed shorts and skirts with a ragged, fraying edge.
NEVER!!!
Of course I don’t own any jeans either.
This implies I own jeans…
Only when they can stand up on their own.
@Ziggie
That used to be my problem AFTER I washed them when we lived in International Falls and hung them out to dry in the winter!
@chienfou @Ziggie Too funny!
@chienfou @Ziggie Yeah. And the water sublimates. I had that problem in NW Ontario. I learned the hard way you do NOT hit your frozen jeans against a tree to get ice off them. Let’s just say you then had shorts.
Of course as a kid I also learned that the hard way walking home from Saturday morning swimming lessons 3/4 a mile in the snow belt. My hair would freeze. I’d break off hair icicles. My mother was not pleased.
@Kidsandliz @Ziggie
Went to Chicago in the dead of winter one time in the early 80’s. Hotel had an indoor/outdoor pool that was separated by a vertical glass wall across the surface of the water. You could swim out under the bottom edge and be outside. Hair froze in short order!
@chienfou @Ziggie Did they heat the pool water? There is no way I’d swim polar bear dip style in water that cold if they didn’t!!!
@Kidsandliz @Ziggie
yeah so when you came up it was all steamy at the surface, but cold AF if you stuck your head up much!
It drepends on what I was doing that day. Sweaty work? They get washed. Dirt-attracting stuff? Into the Maytag. Cruising YouTube for the secret to making short work of my next bid for world domination? They can go another day.
@werehatrack you wear pants while cruising YouTube??
@pmarin I have cats that like to leap on to my lap.
Just like with the expiration of food, your nose will tell you it’s time.
/giphy nose knows
Jeans are way too restrictive of free movement. I switched to some canvas work pants that a local farm and ranch store sells. They are very comfortable and have some stretch. Plus, if you wear a dress shirt and nice shoes they can pass as slacks. Best of all they go on sale for $25 pretty often.
@tweezak Now you’ve got me curious. I’ve never noticed those, but that’s probably just because I haven’t been looking.
@xobzoo The brand my local store sells is called Noble Outfitters.
@tweezak @xobzoo so you’ve been… Slacking?
@tweezak aren’t canvas work pants denim too?
@pakopako These definitely aren’t denim. Not sure what they are technically speaking.
@pakopako @tweezak Canvas and denim are different weaves. They can be made with the same thread, but the weaves are different.
Every 3 - 4 wears. Unless something dramatic happens.
It took me a long time to get the worn look. I don’t want to start over now.
I only learned within the past couple of years that there are people that don’t wash them daily.
@brennyn I am those people.
@brennyn
They say jeans don’t harbor bacteria so it’s actually harmful to the material to wash them everytime you wear them.
@brennyn @Star2236 Real denim can go a long time between washes if you aren’t doing things that are really filthy.
But “stretch denim” and other variants that aren’t 100% cotton can start to stink very quickly.
Carl Chiara, Levi Strauss director of brand and special projects, has a credo: The less you wash your jeans, the better your jeans become.
@Salanth Amen! Just like your hair!
@Salanth With ground in dirt the better they become at wearing out sooner I’d imagine which would suit his company just fine.
@Kidsandliz @Salanth actually I think it’s the opposite. they were originally made for cowboys in France (yes there is such a thing) and the concept brought to the US for miners, loggers, and railroad workers. I would assume that on rare occasions they might have washed their undergarments. The Jeans, much less.
If you don’t believe me about the French cowboys, look up fabric de Nimes, a city in South France. hence the term « denim »
EDIT more info. note the site has annoying popups.
https://myfrenchcountryhomemagazine.com/bleu-de-nimes-the-history-of-denim/
@pmarin @Salanth Well that might have been when jean fabric was practically made out of steel. These days the fabric is thinner and less durable.
Only rarely, like when my wife is out of town.
She does (most of) the laundry, I do (most of) the cooking. Works for us.
Once a week(ish), after sniff testing, depending on the level of work they saw. People that wash their jeans everytime are the same people that put their butter dish in the fridge - it’s madness.
@zinimusprime
Amen! It spreads so much better at room temp. Also, those folks have a come apart when they see fresh eggs sitting on a shelf in the grocery store at room temp, like in Europe…
@chienfou you sir speak with much wisdom.
@chienfou @zinimusprime
:
I only recently learned why we have to fridge our eggs
@chienfou @zinimusprime When you live where it’s warm enough, you put butter in the fridge or it gets nasty before you use it up. Most of the US is warmer than Europe. A/C can make it practical to leave the butter out if you run the temp low enough.
@werehatrack @zinimusprime
@chienfou @werehatrack I live by the food / smell test that someone else mentioned. When it smells bad, clean it. Lol
@chienfou @Kyeh @zinimusprime We have chickens. We keep the eggs in the garage during the cooler months and in the pantry (in air conditioned space) in the warmer months. They get washed when we use/sell/trade/gift a new dozen. The washed eggs in use are then kept in the refrigerator. Never had a problem.
@Kyeh @macromeh @zinimusprime
this is the way
They are made of cotton, so I use the same system as for whatever else I have made from cotton. And I launder them just like everything else made of cotton: cold water, mild soap, line dry or in the dryer set to lowest heat setting, or no heat. And they don’t wear out or fade any faster/slower than any of the other cotton things I have. Why the hype about jeans being “special”?
@rockblossom The hype about jeans mostly only applies to indigo-dyed raw denim. If you buy a pair and wear them a lot but don’t wash them too often they get cool fade patterns.
These are the fade patterns that a lot of “normal” fashion jeans try to fake. Those horizontal lines around the crotch on the jeans on offer today are an example of this.
@Limewater @rockblossom Fun factoid: those are called whiskers.
@ircon96 @Limewater Yeah, I’m a Geezer. To me, denim is for work clothes, not “fashion” jeans. All of the stuff done to make new jeans look worn just strikes me as silly, and I remain unimpressed.
@ircon96 @Limewater @rockblossom I agree - especially the shredded look, and the completely torn out knees.
@Kyeh @Limewater @rockblossom Amen! Another jaded geezer here.
@Limewater @rockblossom +1 on intense dislike for the practice of selling pre-damaged clothing at full or even inflated prices, and treating it as a “feature”. Worse, the damage often utterly fails to accurately mimic the kind of in-use wear patterns that would have been likely to develop. Even more ludicrous, however, is the current (or recent?) fad for making denim skirts with a front seam that’s contrived to look like what would be obtained by piecing together the wreckage of a pair of jeans whose inseams had been completely ripped open. That, and unhemmed shorts and skirts with a ragged, fraying edge.
