Without “spoiling the magic” on how Glen works, I’ll just say: If he had to make it on his own, Glen’s already-meager charisma would be diminished even further
Right now I don’t really watch Glen videos.
If he dropped the human, I’d probably not only watch, but share it with others. (Still gotta find friends for myself though.)
@TheChrisGlass Well you can’t vote for Apple without voting for wireless. Just like you can’t vote for Hillary without voting for the way Benghazi was handled or Donald without voting for lunacy. It’s a Catch 22.
@salaosantiago
With politicians and with companies, you have to decide which sins can be forgiven, and which not. And which sins show the likely future of this person or institution, and which, one hopes, are one-time disasters.
And, of course, there might be a scarcity of alternative options, and a near certainty of having to live with one or another of an array of possible evils.
I prefer that we at least get to kinda choose.
It would be nice if so many of our current political and corporate options weren’t clearly their own worst enemies; and so often also in the running to try becoming our very best frenemies as soon as they have the chance.
FUCK Apple. I don’t own any of their overpriced, overrated, over-hyped, products, and never will. I know all about voting with my wallet. This ditching the headphone jack isn’t about making the iPhone waterproof, it’s all about selling more of their hideously overpriced products, ie: the ear buds/headphones that will have to be used with the iPhone7. And, the sheeple/fanbois will still beg to throw their money at Apple Inc for the privilege of using the “greatest yet”.
Yo Dawg Apple heard you like wires
so Apple made it so you can plug a splitter into your phone, a wire you can plug your wired headphone into the splitter to plug that into and charger cable to plug into the wall.
You can get a splitter for your phone that splits the charging/headphone port and then get the free charging port to 3.5mm dongle, then plug in your headphones.
@caffeine_dude Yeah, I DO know about the dongle. That’s not my point. Sheeple/fanbois won’t go for that. OH, NO! NOT. AT. ALL. That wouldn’t be right, now would it? You MUST have the OFFICIAL, LATEST, GREATEST, Apple product. Nothing else will do! How else are you supposed to show your superior intellect to the idiot masses?
@caffeine_dude
Except that many of us simply don’t want to. Very much don’t want to.
I will be interested in the sales figures. I offer no predictions.
I have a nice collection of 'phones. Happy that my 6s+ has a jack.
Perhaps I’ll sigh and adapt in a few years. In the meantime (I do not hate apple even slightly), I would love to see this turn out to be an issue that impacts sales.
As much as some like to bash people who won’t acknowledge that the “future is wireless”, isn’t there something to be said for one less component that needs to be charged?
I have heard a lot of people gripe about the potential for losing the airpods, but I think the greater risk is having a pair of dead airpods on your person, even though your phone may be sufficiently charged.
@DrWorm
And something to be said for what you can hear using truly high quality over-the-ear headphones, even with a portable device such as s smartphone as the source, and without using an external DAC or amp
The current list of these includes zero wireless headphones. That may change, of course; but as of today, if you want to hear the best sound your iPhone can deliver, you’re on wired cans.
@f00l Seems like Apple is just pushing their chips toward ‘future is wireless’, and that future is sooner rather than later. I’m pretty sure Beats will soon (already?) have wired headsets with the appropriate connector
I was with you all the way on the high-quality headphones must be wired debate. But. Then I got to talking about it with a friend who I consider an audiophile. His take: high-end cans are great for listening (quietly/privately; believes good speakers are best for higher volume sound) to mid- or upper range home audio systems. He claims that many, if not most music consumers using smart phones have shit for their audio source (‘compression’ blah blah) and therefore quality headphones are mostly wasted. Is he talking for real or just hot air?
@compunaut
I have some v nice Sony Bluetooth cans, I also have some more expensive bt headphones I have not really used for serious listening, except for brief periods. I also have some really really nice wired cans.
I could easily tell the diff - hear the bt compression I mean - going from bt to wired, using any 2 sets of cans, going back and forth between wired and non-wired. I mean hit-yourself-in-the-head-obvious if you were really listening; but it was a subtle diff. If you want everything in your listening, you will hear the diff. But it might matter very little for most purposes, because subtle.
The bt cans always sounded more like each other. The wired ones, as you would expect, varied more (the bt ones are always closed back design, I guess the assumption is that you are likely to be using them in public.). The wired ones varied in design.
Was not using an external amp or DAC on anything. Source devices were Note 4, Note 3, Nexus 6, and IPhone 6s. Audio sources I mostly tested with were standard Amazon MP3 files. Nothing special there!
I presume any quality changes such as flacs or the like, or a set of wired cans designed for portable devices, or adding an appropriate headphone DAC or amp would increase the diff considerably.
And I don’t have expertise (at all), am uneducated, have uneducated ears, and am more interested just for amateur listening pleasure than for getting the finest possible sound.
That said, I use bt - either LG Tones for audiobooks and podcasts, or Sony over the ears for music - all the time. Sometimes you just gotta be moving around, or you don’t want wired, or you grab what’s nearby.
If I’m gonna be sitting still, or listening to something I truly love, or doing a film with a gorgeous soundtrack, then wired.
Yeah an incredible home audio is way better. If you have the space, the bux, can time your setup to the room, all that.
@Glen - I still hold you should ditch the human.
Without “spoiling the magic” on how Glen works, I’ll just say: If he had to make it on his own, Glen’s already-meager charisma would be diminished even further
@matthew I have a feeling Glen is like a teenager that would just lay around all day without someone to get him up.
@matthew
Right now I don’t really watch Glen videos.
If he dropped the human, I’d probably not only watch, but share it with others. (Still gotta find friends for myself though.)
Glen knows about the mangle.
I find it amazing how many people complaining are still eager to reserve one, not understanding how voting with your wallet works.
@TheChrisGlass Well you can’t vote for Apple without voting for wireless. Just like you can’t vote for Hillary without voting for the way Benghazi was handled or Donald without voting for lunacy. It’s a Catch 22.
@salaosantiago
With politicians and with companies, you have to decide which sins can be forgiven, and which not. And which sins show the likely future of this person or institution, and which, one hopes, are one-time disasters.
And, of course, there might be a scarcity of alternative options, and a near certainty of having to live with one or another of an array of possible evils.
I prefer that we at least get to kinda choose.
It would be nice if so many of our current political and corporate options weren’t clearly their own worst enemies; and so often also in the running to try becoming our very best frenemies as soon as they have the chance.
Kinda (Catch 22)^[22]
/giphy frenemies
FUCK Apple. I don’t own any of their overpriced, overrated, over-hyped, products, and never will. I know all about voting with my wallet. This ditching the headphone jack isn’t about making the iPhone waterproof, it’s all about selling more of their hideously overpriced products, ie: the ear buds/headphones that will have to be used with the iPhone7. And, the sheeple/fanbois will still beg to throw their money at Apple Inc for the privilege of using the “greatest yet”.
@Lurker
/giphy wake up sheeple
@Lurker I need some apple stickers. https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Headphones-RP-HJE120-SDynamic-Comfort-Fit-Compatible/dp/B003EM800S/ref=sr_1_15?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1473452295&sr=1-15&keywords=bluetooth+earbuds&refinements=p_72%3A2491149011%2Cp_36%3A2491155011
@caffeine_dude
Ha, shows what you know.
Yo Dawg Apple heard you like wires
so Apple made it so you can plug a splitter into your phone, a wire you can plug your wired headphone into the splitter to plug that into and charger cable to plug into the wall.
You can get a splitter for your phone that splits the charging/headphone port and then get the free charging port to 3.5mm dongle, then plug in your headphones.
@caffeine_dude Yeah, I DO know about the dongle. That’s not my point. Sheeple/fanbois won’t go for that. OH, NO! NOT. AT. ALL. That wouldn’t be right, now would it? You MUST have the OFFICIAL, LATEST, GREATEST, Apple product. Nothing else will do! How else are you supposed to show your superior intellect to the idiot masses?
@Lurker http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/xzibit-yo-dawg
@caffeine_dude
Except that many of us simply don’t want to. Very much don’t want to.
I will be interested in the sales figures. I offer no predictions.
I have a nice collection of 'phones. Happy that my 6s+ has a jack.
Perhaps I’ll sigh and adapt in a few years. In the meantime (I do not hate apple even slightly), I would love to see this turn out to be an issue that impacts sales.
@f00l My comment was ment to meme http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/xzibit-yo-dawg
I could not care less about apple stuff sorry.
As much as some like to bash people who won’t acknowledge that the “future is wireless”, isn’t there something to be said for one less component that needs to be charged?
I have heard a lot of people gripe about the potential for losing the airpods, but I think the greater risk is having a pair of dead airpods on your person, even though your phone may be sufficiently charged.
@DrWorm
And something to be said for what you can hear using truly high quality over-the-ear headphones, even with a portable device such as s smartphone as the source, and without using an external DAC or amp
The current list of these includes zero wireless headphones. That may change, of course; but as of today, if you want to hear the best sound your iPhone can deliver, you’re on wired cans.
@f00l Seems like Apple is just pushing their chips toward ‘future is wireless’, and that future is sooner rather than later. I’m pretty sure Beats will soon (already?) have wired headsets with the appropriate connector
I was with you all the way on the high-quality headphones must be wired debate. But. Then I got to talking about it with a friend who I consider an audiophile. His take: high-end cans are great for listening (quietly/privately; believes good speakers are best for higher volume sound) to mid- or upper range home audio systems. He claims that many, if not most music consumers using smart phones have shit for their audio source (‘compression’ blah blah) and therefore quality headphones are mostly wasted. Is he talking for real or just hot air?
@compunaut
I have some v nice Sony Bluetooth cans, I also have some more expensive bt headphones I have not really used for serious listening, except for brief periods. I also have some really really nice wired cans.
I could easily tell the diff - hear the bt compression I mean - going from bt to wired, using any 2 sets of cans, going back and forth between wired and non-wired. I mean hit-yourself-in-the-head-obvious if you were really listening; but it was a subtle diff. If you want everything in your listening, you will hear the diff. But it might matter very little for most purposes, because subtle.
The bt cans always sounded more like each other. The wired ones, as you would expect, varied more (the bt ones are always closed back design, I guess the assumption is that you are likely to be using them in public.). The wired ones varied in design.
Was not using an external amp or DAC on anything. Source devices were Note 4, Note 3, Nexus 6, and IPhone 6s. Audio sources I mostly tested with were standard Amazon MP3 files. Nothing special there!
I presume any quality changes such as flacs or the like, or a set of wired cans designed for portable devices, or adding an appropriate headphone DAC or amp would increase the diff considerably.
And I don’t have expertise (at all), am uneducated, have uneducated ears, and am more interested just for amateur listening pleasure than for getting the finest possible sound.
That said, I use bt - either LG Tones for audiobooks and podcasts, or Sony over the ears for music - all the time. Sometimes you just gotta be moving around, or you don’t want wired, or you grab what’s nearby.
If I’m gonna be sitting still, or listening to something I truly love, or doing a film with a gorgeous soundtrack, then wired.
Yeah an incredible home audio is way better. If you have the space, the bux, can time your setup to the room, all that.
@heartny
Perfect
@heartny tape on an iphone, how passé … you need:
http://appleplugs.com/