@Barney It really was. I’m not a Pats hater, but I do enjoy watching an underdog win against the favorite. I honestly think that based on tonight’s performance, KC will win it all this year. They’re long overdue.
I did see it. It was a good game. Are you all counting out the Patriots because of one game? Are they suppose to win every game every season? They just came off the greatest Superbowl comeback in the history of the game and the haters are out already for a singe season game?
The fact that the Pats warrant their own thread for a single game is awesome! Will we get one for every game this season? That works for me.
But I do understand everyone’s feelings. It is extremely difficult to watch one franchise dominate a league for 17 years, especially in the age of free agency. It creates a feeling of hate. It is a place for all fans and non-fans to focus their anger who are tired of their favorite teams performing at a sub-par level, or those teams playing well to come up short. I understand, I do. It’s ok. I have some stars to make you feel better.
There is a lot of season left and we will see how everything turns out. Will you see the Patriots in the playoffs - yup. Will they repeat? The odds are against it, but you never know. I would think last year would teach people to never count them out. But I remain a loyal and devoted fan either way.
OR, was this thread created just to get my GoaT, or Rustle My Jimmies? Hmmmmmm? ;)~
@mfladd It wasn’t that they lost they got their heads handed to them. I hope it isn’t a major flaw in the defense. The 2nd TD the receiver was alone with no one within 20 yards of him, he had to wait for the ball and still had 10yds on the nearest defender. 4qtr was all KC Brady got to do in depth analysis of the turf composition. We’ll see if this was a one time thing or if Goodall has succeeded in fucking up the Pats.
@mfladd I’ll take care of making sure that at the very least there’s a thread each time they win now that @Barney has established the precedent. I could do it for all the games but unlike some people I don’t wallow in losses, they’re bound to happen, so I see little point in it. If nothing else someone else will doubtless make a thread like @Barney did.
My jimmies are definitely rustled over that sprinkles nonsense. It’s beyond high time that people stop spreading such ignorant filth.
@mfladd nah. we’re just relieved we won’t have to spend the majority of the season listening to the endless blather about "can the Patriots go 19-0"
because, that question has been answered, for this season, at least.
@ekw nobody cares about 19 and 0, they already topped the single season record in all the ways that matter. A streak is a steak no matter whether it included the championship game or not. The real discussion will be when (not if) they hang a sixth banner at Gillette.
@jbartus well - let’s assume that you follow football in ANY media. online, radio, tv, newspapers, actually watch football, read blogs, whatever . . .
do you not think they would have flogged that story until the first loss?
Not typical for the Pats to not make adjustments in the second half. The Chiefs smelled blood in the water and wouldn’t let up. It was fun to see the fans in the stadium shut up. However, my enthusiasm is very tempered by the memory of the last time the Chiefs upended the Pats like that. Pats won the Super Bowl that year.
@Barney there’s a big difference between making yourself lose sleep to be part of a great moment and making yourself lose sleep in solidarity with your team. It’s one thing to stay up and watch the whole thing in your living room when bed is sixty seconds away, another entirely when faced with two hours of traffic and driving.
I’m not a huge fan of Texas A&M, since I was born a Longhorn. (Lots of legacy. Generations and all.)
But I gotta respect the Aggie fans. The student attendees, and many of the other Aggie fans, stand for the entire game. Every game.
And they tend not to leave early when the game isn’t going well.
Gotta salute that.
Texas A&M’s E. King Gill during the 1921–1922 season
An early reference to the numerical “12th Man” term occurred at the 1922 Dixie Classic, featuring Centre College and The Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas (later known as Texas A&M). During the game, A&M coach Dana X. Bible realized that one more injury would leave him without another backfield player to send into the game. Coach Bible remembered that E. King Gill, an individual who had tried out for the squad but who “lacked the experience and ability to play for the varsity” had made the trip as a member of the school’s Corps of Cadets and was sitting with his friends in the stands.[better source needed] Bible sent for Gill and asked for him to suit up and be ready if needed. Gill later said, “I wish I could say that I went in and ran for the winning touchdown, but I did not. I simply stood by in case my team needed me.” Although he did not actually play in the game, his readiness to play was noted.
The first known instance of Texas A&M referring to its fanbase as the “12th Man” is contained on page 17 of 25 November 1921 edition of The Battalion, the Texas A&M campus newspaper. Current Texas A&M students call themselves the 12th Man, and have done so continuously since the 1920s. Ever since the day E. King Gill left the stands in 1922, the entire student body has stood throughout the game to symbolize their “readiness, desire, and enthusiasm” to take the field if needed. A statue of E. King Gill stands to the north of Kyle Field to remind Aggies of their constant obligation to preserve the spirit of the 12th Man. Beginning in 1985, fans also began waving 12th Man Towels during the game to show their support. The tradition of towels started when coach Jackie Sherrill’s 12th man squad began carrying them to motivate the student body in the stands.
Because the students are always waiting for the opportunity to support their team, they are also willing to share the credit for the team’s good deeds. A popular Aggie tradition is that “when the team scores, everybody scores”. Whenever the Aggies score points during the game, students kiss their dates.
Football coach Jackie Sherrill created the “12th Man Kick-Off Team” in the 1980s, composed of non-athletic scholarship students who tried out for the team. Coach Sherrill has written a book entitled “No Experience Required” which details this team and the tradition. These students were placed on the roster for the sole purpose of kickoffs. The squad was nicknamed “the suicide squad”. These students often had little regard for their safety and were determined to make a tackle at any cost.  The 12th Man Kick-Off Team was extremely successful and eventually held opponents to one of the lowest yards-per-return average in the league during kickoffs.[when?] Later, head coach R. C. Slocum changed the team to allow only one representative of the 12th Man on the kick off team who wears uniform number 12. The player is chosen based on the level of determination and hard work shown in practices. Under Dennis Franchione, the 12th Man Kick-Off Team composed of walk-ons was brought back, though used only rarely when the team was up by quite a few points.
On June 30, 2014, Texas A&M bought the domain name 12thman.com, which then became its official athletics website.
@Barney you’re entitled your position on the matter. Personally I don’t take any issue with people who have jobs they have to be up for early the next morning wanting to get home before 2 AM but you can hold them to whatever standard you like.
I’ll just sit here content knowing that the last three times we lost our season opener we won the Super Bowl.
On the extremely rare occasion (twice) that I get to go to a game, I feel a sense of duty to make some noise and fulfill the responsibilities of a fan. When people leave early, I kind of see it like a defensive player walking away from the game because the offense has messed up. Sure, I have to pay for the honor of having that job, but I definitely buy into the 12th man perspective that we can (and should) do something for our team. We energize our team and make it hard for the other offense to hear. And then things like the Mile High tradition of the IN-COM-PLETE chant have the potential to get into the QB’s head.
I went to a game in Cincinnati where it looked like the majority of the Bengals fans gave up and left long before the game was over. Enough of them left that you could clearly tell much of the orange left in the stands was Broncos orange… because we were working together to make a lot of noise for our team. I felt bad for the Bengals, being abandoned by their fans and having to suffer through the energy and dedication of the Broncos fans. But I also felt a lot of pride in the multitude of fans that made it out there to support Denver. (And let’s be real, we won that game, but we had a relatively rough season, last year.)
@christinewas When I lived in Denver I watched a Broncos game during a blizzard. (We were very lucky to get the tickets.) My butt was frozen, my feet were frozen, my face was frozen. But we enjoyed every minute of it because we were rooting for the home team. Denver lost.
As a long suffering Chiefs fan, I really want to be shouting from the roof tops, but I’m a little bait shy. Now, I’ll give you that the Pats weren’t ready, but even if they were, the Chiefs may still have won that game, it just would have been closer. But the injury to Bary has me nervous. Other injuries are going to follow, if the Oline takes a couple of hits, Smith won’t have as much time to get down the field like he did last night. Speaking of Smith, holy hell. I didn’t know he still had that in him! Suppose drafting the youngster put a bee in his bonnet?
What would give you that idea? I’m a Chief’s fan, we just know better. Since the Chiefs got Reid, they have been a solid, respectable football team. I was pretty happy with that. Last night, they looked like a great team. Like they “took the next step.” That is at once an exhilerating/terrifying prospect. Most of it depends on Alex Smith maintaining that level of play, that’s not something I’m ready to go all in on.
@christinewas but if they hadn’t won you would never have found your way to this thread. The commutative property would thereby seem to dictate that this week’s Patriots victory is directly responsible for your joy.
I’m happy when the Pats lose because I’m shallow and immature, and I enjoy a little schadenfreude now and then.
I enjoy it when the Pats win because, I gotta admit, they’re just that dammed good.
Ok I’m hyporcritical and all that. But it gives me pleasure, and my attitudes are entertaining to my family. So there.
They’re kinda amazing. The team and coach seek to channel the same philosophy and have the ability to work together to adapt on the fly.
My younger bro knows someone who played 1st string pro ball for about half a decade.
That guy’s take:
“They’re the best and most intelligent team in the NFL. I mean the best team. They work together seamlessly and are still able to improvise and read the field and adapt to act in unplanned ways and then pull it off. That’s teamwork. That’s personal and coaching and team philosophy. Notice that in spite of how good they are, not so much showboating? It’s about the team. It’s about the game.”
But they’ll never be the Longhorns, ya know.
My youthful allegiances are still the best.