The whole series is about this || close to making me walk away forever. Force Awakens was fine, I guess, if you like point-for-point remakes of Star Wars. Rogue One was lifeless and drab. Both felt interminable. They were both better than the prequels, but that ain’t sayin’ much.
Uh oh, gonna get some Opinions up in here. I can feel them coming.
I meant to see Rogue One, but I never got around to it, despite it playing for a long time at a theater just a few minutes’ walk from my place. Guess that shows my dedication to the franchise! The only friend of mine who mentioned seeing it said she fell asleep halfway through. Oops.
I haven’t seen Rougue One but I read all the books so I bet it will be disappointing.
I mean come on. Force awakens was just a “super hyperdrive multi system star powered death star”. It literally had no sense even in the context of the expanded universe. Never mind time tables. Or logic.
Force Awakens was a mediocre film that only looks like a good Star Wars movie because we just came off the prequels and remastering. It was praised for diversifying the series, yet still stuck to a token black guy. Characters didn’t really show any growth, and the plot was like a lazy rewrite of New Hope.
Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie since Empire. It’s a love letter to the originals, aware of what made them great, but acknowledging that we are in a new era, with different tech and new issues, yet able to show how the same themes span across the ages. A tale of redemption that is redeeming the series it is part of at the same time. It brought actual diversity, actual character development, and made us remember what it was like before we mocked every new entry in the series. The only thing people really teased it for was Tarkin, and that was honestly very impressive.
Also, Rogue One was beautiful. I mean, the Hammerhead sequence? Wow.
@simplersimon The Force Awakens plot was so bad. It made me crave galactic conference room meetings.
Rogue One felt like a modern movie to me (at least the ones I tend to watch)–too much at once, not enough of a self-contained story, too heavily reliant on tropes and whatnot… but I liked it, at least.
@f00l I was trying to read that poem. It appears to have an unusual application of grammar, or maybe metaphor, or else, I probably need to drink some coffee.
Very catchy, though. (I have had very little exposure to poetry.)
re poem:
It might help to know that Dylan Thomas was both a really gifted poet and a drunk shot thru with the celtic weight of Wales.
A certain musician born as Bob Zimmerman, singer/songwriter, Nobel Prize winner in literature, took in early adulthood the the artistic name “Bob Dylan” in tribute to Dylan Thomas.
@f00l I’m thinking that my reaction to Rogue One is more about all the movies that I haven’t watched to set my expectations, than it is about the movie itself, within the usual context of movies. The gif really is perfect.
Interesting to know, about Dylan. I was wondering if there was a connection.
Never watched StarTrek.
@lilsrm123 Huh???
The whole series is about this || close to making me walk away forever. Force Awakens was fine, I guess, if you like point-for-point remakes of Star Wars. Rogue One was lifeless and drab. Both felt interminable. They were both better than the prequels, but that ain’t sayin’ much.
@UncleVinny yes, thank you
No option for didn’t see either?
Rogue One was a bad movie for many reasons. The prequels had the George Lucas excuse, but Rogue One was just boring.
@Moose You are not one with the force and the force is not with you?
@Moose We streamed part of it at least a week ago. Haven’t been back to watch the end.
Uh oh, gonna get some Opinions up in here. I can feel them coming.
I meant to see Rogue One, but I never got around to it, despite it playing for a long time at a theater just a few minutes’ walk from my place. Guess that shows my dedication to the franchise! The only friend of mine who mentioned seeing it said she fell asleep halfway through. Oops.
I’ve been meaning to see both since they came out, but I somehow haven’t gotten around to it.
I busted out laughing when I saw The Voyage Home on the list! I love you, guys!
Blazing Saddles
@ThatsHeadly Username checks out.
I haven’t seen either. But, I still play “You spoiled Star Wars and ruined Christmas” occasionally. It’s 2:45 am and I’m singing it in my head.
I haven’t seen Rougue One but I read all the books so I bet it will be disappointing.
I mean come on. Force awakens was just a “super hyperdrive multi system star powered death star”. It literally had no sense even in the context of the expanded universe. Never mind time tables. Or logic.
@unksol Didn’t they declare all of the Expanded Universe books to now be non-canonical, so they can completely disregard that stuff?
@unksol
It’s the movies. It they think they can make it look good on screen with action to spare, they are go.
Force Awakens was a mediocre film that only looks like a good Star Wars movie because we just came off the prequels and remastering. It was praised for diversifying the series, yet still stuck to a token black guy. Characters didn’t really show any growth, and the plot was like a lazy rewrite of New Hope.
Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie since Empire. It’s a love letter to the originals, aware of what made them great, but acknowledging that we are in a new era, with different tech and new issues, yet able to show how the same themes span across the ages. A tale of redemption that is redeeming the series it is part of at the same time. It brought actual diversity, actual character development, and made us remember what it was like before we mocked every new entry in the series. The only thing people really teased it for was Tarkin, and that was honestly very impressive.
Also, Rogue One was beautiful. I mean, the Hammerhead sequence? Wow.
@simplersimon The Force Awakens plot was so bad. It made me crave galactic conference room meetings.
Rogue One felt like a modern movie to me (at least the ones I tend to watch)–too much at once, not enough of a self-contained story, too heavily reliant on tropes and whatnot… but I liked it, at least.
@InnocuousFarmer
Or to abuse Dylan Thomas:
“After the first trope, there is no other.”
https://m.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/refusal-mourn-death-fire-child-london
@f00l I was trying to read that poem. It appears to have an unusual application of grammar, or maybe metaphor, or else, I probably need to drink some coffee.
Very catchy, though. (I have had very little exposure to poetry.)
@f00l an aside. I am going to tape that gif to the wall of my cubicle.
@InnocuousFarmer
That gif is kinda perfect.
re poem:
It might help to know that Dylan Thomas was both a really gifted poet and a drunk shot thru with the celtic weight of Wales.
A certain musician born as Bob Zimmerman, singer/songwriter, Nobel Prize winner in literature, took in early adulthood the the artistic name “Bob Dylan” in tribute to Dylan Thomas.
@f00l I’m thinking that my reaction to Rogue One is more about all the movies that I haven’t watched to set my expectations, than it is about the movie itself, within the usual context of movies. The gif really is perfect.
Interesting to know, about Dylan. I was wondering if there was a connection.
Haven’t seen either one.
Someday I’ll get around to it.
/image round tuit
I like the TrekWars movie… which one was that?! My favorite line was “Beam me the light sword scottie”
Gotta love the diversity of passionate opinion. Even people who “don’t care” actually really care.
So the series still kicks up the yearning for childhood magic, whatever else it fails or succeeds at.
Loved both films. So what if predictable or illogical or derivative or dumb?
This is Star Wars, not a master’s thesis. Have some fun if you can, trash them if you can’t.
@f00l eyes should be yellow
@earlyre
I know. The newer versions are nothing compared to the originals. I mean, they ruined the franchise.
All the star Wars films since the original trilogy have been an exercise in “You can’t go home again” for me.