@capnjb@Kyeh Who says you can’t take naps in the middle of the night? Actually, they’re more like “involuntary naps,” since i go through phases where i can’t stay awake & doze off randomly in my chair, whether I’m up in the day or night. It’s like JV narcolepsy.
I seriously doubt that we’re going to see anything interesting before April. Maybe not then. It’s become pretty obvious that the value of the enthusiasm that used to be generated by those is no longer considered significant.
@werehatrack I am guessing less enthusiasm is at least due to the new price of irks, only 150ish in one try for an IRK, and the crap offered in them are multiple repeats that will show up again and again on all the sites so missing buying the item then doesn’t mean “one and done”.
@Kidsandliz@werehatrack but I struggle to see where the change in price point affected the model. Irks continue to sell out in record time. Additionally it seems that those that vocalize their disdain of the increase are continuing to purchase, meaing the increase is not a barrier to entry.
@tinamarie1974@werehatrack There are some who have been very vocal they aren’t participating any more due to the price. That reduces enthusiasm. Of course many still try. You might get lucky and get one. You might get exceptionally lucky and get a “winner”. Intermittent reinforcement makes behaviors hard to extinguish. LOL
@Kidsandliz@werehatrack who actually stopped participating? I honestly have not seen that, but maybe I missed it. All I have seen is the vocality coupled with a post of what was received and why they wont be duped again, rinse and repeat. Lol
So what exactly ARE you talking about? I’ve been here a while. I’ve assumed you were referring to an “a-thon”, but when I check history, there have not been consistent thons on MLK. I see that in 2020 there was one ON MLK, in 2021 it was the week of, and last year. Well last year the first a-thon appears to have been on April Fools Day.
So I don’t necessarily think it is waning interest, if it was the Irks would be easier to purchase. I also don’t think it is corporate pulling back. They historically did not do a lot of them until 2020. It seemed they were every other month or so during the pandemic. Maybe we are going back to status queue, which was kinda Meh. But I would expect nothing less! lol
@Kidsandliz well you cant take that up with the kind folks at Meh, but my guess is that the number of available Irks is inversly related to their popularity AND alternative outlets for slow sellers. As much as I wish they were here to amuse me they are a business and must turn a profit. I am sure Irks are loss leaders. But also, the number of available Irks has nothing to do with MLK, right?
@tinamarie1974 Are you having a tough day there @tinamarie1974? you seem a bit upset. No I haven’t been around anywhere near what a lot of you have been only a couple of years. I LOVED Meh because of the entertainment and the users BSing each other. The IRKs a couple years ago and mehathons were fun (I don’t know how they did it before that…sorry). I get it they’re a business, but I stayed and bought stuff because I enjoyed the fun. I don’t enjoy it anymore. I don’t buy stuff anymore. Don’t I count as part of that business too? But people come for IRKS and stay to buy other ‘stuff’.
@sunnysideup22 not having a bad day at all, trying to figure out what you were referencing in your thread! Actually I have the day off, making this a three day weekend
What I can tell you is prior to your arrival (or after actually) we did not have consistent thons on MLK. The only consistent one I am aware of is the birthday thon, which has become less involved YOY
Also, @kidsandliz as I mentioned I am off work, and bored so I did some digging. I know youve mentioned the dwindling number of bags per offering and it didnt sit right w me, because early on I would have a hell of a time scoring a bag. So this is just a quick history of bags I have won, not the entire population
@tinamarie1974 Yes I would suspect you are right that their brick and mortar gets rid of what might otherwise end up in irks which leaves an irk inventory shortage LOL Well and the related mehathons since they have moved to a model of selling a zillion things with a few irks mixed in. And of course they are a business, however over time I think the “use” of the forums for growing their business has decreased significantly/actually isn’t needed anymore. As a result I don’t see that they are throwing resources, attention, etc. at meh the way they used to. As their business model changes as their business grows we are far less important to them than we used to be. As a result of the lack of that kind of “attention” I do think enthusiasm has decreased. There are numerous people who used to be active here who are “gone” for years.
Low offerings have not always been a thing - although more recently they have. There used to be, in the “early days”, 1000 of irks (originally they had two other names), 1500 of them and they’d be open for several minutes. That, I guess, was before your time (I have been on here since the second week of their formal opening)? The era of very few of them was not the original model. And of course models change over time as they try to find the “best” way to dump stuff that doesn’t sell or can’t be sold due to damage, etc.
In the “good old days” LOL the community was used to build the business when snapster bailed from Amazon after his original business was bought. In a long ago post he said he kept meh as a nostalgia thing even though it wasn’t really a money maker and essentially was rounding error in company profits. Of course since the early days he has gotten married, has a family, his business has grown substantially and our “purpose” isn’t there in the business sense anymore. I suspect he has moved on for multiple reasons and the attention given to us and our use to the company isn’t really there anymore.
@Kidsandliz I am not disagreeing that the landscape has changed, it has and I miss many of the old timers who are no longer here/active. But I also dont think it is fair to assume they moved on because of the changes in the business model. A small percentage, sure. The entire population or even the majority of it, no way. Things happen, life gets in the way. But the numbers dont lie. It took me a few years to snag my first Irk, because they were hard to get, but you can see for at least the last six years they have offered low volumes. This is not something new
And you are right, I was not here that first year (joined mid 2015), and it was different. I am sure that first year was even different from the second when I arrived. Snapster was trying to get the business off the ground. He succeeded thanks to all of us and his know how and that causes change. Remember Apple started in “some guys” garage, Amazon sold college books and facebook was just for college students, etc. It happens.
I am just happy Meh continues to offer Irks, as they are fun and sometimes I score a nice one! Given they are likely a loss for Meh it is not something they need to do anymore and I dont want to highlight reasons to stop.
@tinamarie1974 I was responding to to a specific set of comments on the thread. The only connection I see to MLK day is that apparently there had been a mehatron or two on this holiday and several people were commenting about that. As far as to the actual person, of course there is none.
@tinamarie1974 I was wrong - googling Fukubukuro’s and earlier Fukobukuro’s were generally, but not always, about 1000 at a time. Those were open for more than a minute. I realize that breaking them down into smaller numbers with the grand total for the day being roughly the same is still roughly the same give away, but the ability to get them has changed dramatically due to tech things like “ping” that people have little control over. Before you had to make sure you checked right at midnight but then you had a chance, here you may hit buy only not to load until it is sold out. I prefer the older way which was, in my opinion, fairer. Of course there is a marketing reason to do it the current way. It keeps people checking back in hoping to catch one where the “old way” was only one at midnight, nothing else sold that day.
@Kidsandliz so you think the volumes have remained consistent, only the distribution throughout the day has changed? No idea, When I joined mid way thru year 2 I know they were sprinkled throughout the day, but I dont recall if we are seeing more or less occurqnces of Irks in the wild. Lol
Personally I think checking back is more fun and it increases activity in the forum. It gives a greater audience a chance at an elusive Irk and it also drives increased traffic to their site. Seems like a win-win to me. We can agree to disagree
@Kidsandliz@tinamarie1974 I’m one of those crusty old farts that prefers the old way. Even though I’m not checking the site nearly as regularly as before the changes, on the rare occasions when I am up, I’d like to know up front when I’ve been rejected as opposed to the expectation of having to endlessly try until she finally relents and says yes. Generally though, it’s no, no, no, no, no, no, oh hell no! On to of that with the last few progressive price hike IRKs, it sure feels like vying for an expensive date, which if you’re successful results in little real benefit. You could probably do just as well at a Vegas street corner on any night for less money and certainly less time. It seems the older I get, the less I like to waste my time. Just one of the many reasons we get crankier as we age.
@tinamarie1974 I think initially there was only one a day, then just a couple on that day but nothing else on that day eg no other items for sale (I only looked at one fuko or fuku on a given day and didn’t go look to see if there were more than one or not). I don’t think the total number sold in a 24 hour period of them has changed much over all though. Of course my memory may be faulty and I don’t care enough to do an actual detailed count.
The only problem with so few in a given individual sale is that those with high ping have a much lower chance since they sell out in less than 10 seconds and many of us take longer to load than they are for sale. Of course many of us took the same long time to load before, the difference being there were more for sale so we had a chance to get one. That is the only part I am calling unfair because that is out of control of the person trying and is technology dependent. Of course many don’t get them but at least some of them who don’t have a chance when they hit buy. Some of us never see the buy button as it is already sold out unless meh has a glitch (so I hope for glitches LOL).
@Kidsandliz I get that, but I dont know that any amount of complaining here is going to make a difference. And that is my point, well I have a few.
Consumers speak through their wallet. If all of a sudden somthing is no longer desirable we stop buying it, and if enough people make that same decision it is felt, realized and studied for ways to gain consumers back. In this case, the only two folks I hear constantly complaining is yourself and @wehatrack, but be honest, have either of you stopped participating or buying Irks if you have a chance? If you havent then the business assumes their is no negative implications for the change they made.
This thread was about a possible thon today. It had nothing to do with the cost of Irks or selling >500 or 1000 at a time, but every time anyone mentions the word there are a few folks who jump all over the thread to complain that they are not happy. But they still buy them (see point so the only thing happening is you are getting upset, folks on the forum are getting annoyed and the folks at Meh…they are still making $$$
@tinamarie1974 I buy so very little so I am not one of their more valuable customers so I doubt the care one iota about what I think. LOL
There are others complaining on other threads - in fact there have been entire threads about irk complains (of which I have not initiated any of them but have commented on some them) but as you said, if it mattered to the company they’d do something. We no longer are an important part of their business model as they have grown over time. It is what it is.
@Kidsandliz@tinamarie1974 I think you guys have it nailed. And it’s why this place is nowhere near as fun as it used to be, when Snapster was still playing around here, and things were just happening. I’ve really only kept my VIP because of inertia, at this point. And since I quit drinking, the Casemates free shipping doesn’t really make up for the cost as much as it did before. Hmmmm…
[Edit: And I have stopped even trying to buy IRKs, because of the ping lag. So you can count at least one fewer potential customer. Heh.]
@tinamarie1974 I forgot to put in my previous message - because we are such a itty bitty part of their overall income stream (per snapster several years back so even less now I’d imagine) I doubt meh is even remotely important to their income stream overall. Although of course I don’t know about the inner workings of meh, I’d suspect we are only still here because of tradition.
@Kidsandliz nor do I but you are likely correct. So knowing this I dont understand why a handful of folks feel the need to.come on and complain consistently about their displeasure with the format or the price change. I mean vent, I get it, but over and over? Why? Clearly no one that matters is listening so it is just being forced on those of us who remain on the forum. And as someone pointed out earlier, it kind of sucks the fun out of stopping by.
No matter how they run the Mehrathons there are always complaints. And once people do score and receive them there are always more complaints!
I’ve enjoyed trying to get Irks - well, sort of, in spite of the aggravation of losing - but I just view it as gambling. Most people don’t expect to win the lottery but they keep trying. Part of what makes Mehrathons exciting is the surprise of having one happen; if they were at a set time every month or something they’d be less of a thrill. And the uncertainty of what you get is the other part of the thrill. Although “thrill” is probably too strong a word!
I said I wanted one for my bday so I still have one more day. Then I’ll start to complain, well not really. I’ll just be sad I never complain about irks, it’s all fun and games to me. Although I do not think they need to be $50.
A while back I got 3 pair of wave design socks and I thought they were guys socks (bc most design kind are) went to give them away for Xmas and realized they were woman’s. It made my day all over again about my irk. I’m a sock person and love crazy socks. So that irk was awesome!
Thank you, yesterday my aunt took me to lunch with my cousin and my mom. Today I went to dinner with my boyfriend and tomorrow we’re celebrating my dad and mine bday (his is the day after mine) with family.