Crossbow recommendations?
4Let’s just open with, obviously this would be hunting related and might bother some people. I have seen versions of “the poor deer” and usually worse “deer are pest just kill them”. I get the first one to some extent but. If it’s not for you just ignore this.
By definition a hunter is following state law, behaving in an ethical manner, and extremely conscientious of shot placement and accuracy and respects the animal. Someone who does not is a poacher.
Anyway… I’m looking into a crossbow that I may or may not use this year. My state allows them for archery season. I have had a barnett whitetail pro str in my cart for a year plus at $500. Cabela’s also has a 10 point titan M1 for $750. And some 10 point nitros that are $999. I wasn’t looking to spend that much… But. 10 point does make some nice stuff.
Anyway if any hunters have a good recommendation I would love to hear. If it goes sideways just kill this thread.
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My husband hunts with a crossbow sometimes. I’ll ask him when he gets in from the hunt Saturday afternoon and post it then. I like to go into the woods to hunt. I just stare at the animals, though, I don’t actually shoot them. I love target shooting and have had my compound bow for about 18 years now. Still in great shape, too.
@AuntMean67 I’ve not hunted before but have had 12 acres for 7.5 years. And allowed neighbors to hunt because of the previous owners.
The guy who owns the back side of the woods came over last year and complained about hunting with his granddaughter. And hearing them shoot. Probably skeet I hope. And I told them them this spring to pull their stands anyway… Cause we might be out there. Bought to walk the woods then have them removed it they are not labeled
There are several does and fawns living back there year round.
But not the size you would want to take
@AuntMean67 also it he’s an avid hunter he has probably seen this https://www.netflix.com/title/80126646
@AuntMean67 @unksol
Many family members hunt; several have w bow and arrow. And one of my best friends (now gone) was an avid bowhunter.
Deer can be pretty.
They are also damned pests where near or on a road at night. They can be invisible and then jump out right in front at the worst moment. They have pea brains and they don’t understand vehicle headlights.
I’ve known of several friends’ cars that died from deer collision, with the deer jumping or running out with no warning. Impossible to avoid unless driving at 20 mph or something.
Fortunately, no humans I know were hurt so far except for a few bruises.
I choose my night driving routes in rural areas based on the probability of driving thru good near-to-road “deer cover” vegetation. Am more terrified of deer accidents at night than any thing except perhaps ice.
As for the actual hunting: If the hunter is skilled, and acts as a responsible adult, then it’s fine.
We’ve gotten rid of the deer predators. If people didn’t want to hunt deer, then counties/states would either have to pay people to cull the deer population, or invent a form of mass-population-deer-birth-control.
If one of the other of those options weren’t acted on, the deer population would suffer from mass starvation etc. This happens anyway during years of serious drought.
Besides, most of us aren’t vegetarians.
Hope it’s great.
@AuntMean67 @f00l @unksol This. Plus, in my state, and I would expect most others, hunters (and fishermen) pay for most of the expense of the state’s wildlife management and conservation programs.
@AuntMean67 @f00l @macromeh this is true. I technically don’t have to pay for a hunting license/tags on my own land because I’m zoned agricultural… But if I do I probably would buy tags anyway for that reason. They don’t cost that much.
However. No crossbow recommendations! Lol
@AuntMean67 @f00l @unksol Sorry, can’t help you there - my state is the only one that does not allow hunting with a crossbow.
Also, I have to buy license and tags to hunt game on my own land.
@AuntMean67 @f00l @macromeh yeah they get get weird about that stuff. Inline muzzel loaders are largely banned in the northwest. I don’t get that… there is some logic to force you to pick your shot. Back into ethics. Hard to argue that when your rifle might not fire when you want and get a bad shot… It the trigger pull/ fire is delayed cause powder is damp… Just seems less safe
Some places do that with bow/crossbow although I will readily admit it takes more skill with a bow.
But if you’re state has a deer reduction issue or limited hunters…might be time to relax. In think that’s what they have here. They could have just expanded rifle season. But they have a bonus anterless deer count where you left to to follow all the rules but you can take a few more per county. If you have the tags of course. And sometimes extend the season for a few weeks.
But bow/crossbows is archery is pretty much allowed the whole season.
Those hunters also provide a ton of stats to the DNR… I was here for x time and I saw xyz animals. When you have hunters out there you can get a ton of info that you couldn’t pay for
@unksol I’ve seen an episode, too. It’s ok. I just don’t get excited about all the whispered excitement. And the sitting still… I mean, I hate having to be quiet. That’s why I don’t hunt. I never could sit still even as a little girl.
@unksol It’s nice to have property (we only have .999 acre). And it’s wonderful to have deer and turkeys and such on it. Until they damage your garden or your yard. Then, not so much.
@f00l @macromeh @unksol WTF??? That sucks!
@AuntMean67 @f00l @macromeh
An example of a northwest legal
https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/cva-wolftm-northwest-legal.html
It’s the exposed firing cap mostly. Some states limit sites/scopes. It’s mostly a thing about being sporting. Which idk that those things really impact.
@AuntMean67 @unksol Having a farm dog that is large enough to be intimidating and very protective of her charges has worked pretty well to keep the deer out of the yard in past years. Unfortunately, at 14 she is no longer an effective figurehead of menace to the local wildlife, so a couple of does have taken to wandering through and sampling the garden. Once we were out on the upper-level deck when they made a visit. We were talking to them as they grazed the lawn 40-feet away, unfazed. Had to go stand physically between them and the garden to get them to leave.Too tame for their own good, I think.
@macromeh for a good farm dog don’t you have to have a big space? At least the breeds I have read about want an actual 40+ acre farm to run/heard
@unksol Alas, our poor benighted farm dogs (a 14yo Blue Heeler mix and a ~8yo (deaf) Australian Shepherd mix) must make do with only 30 acres to patrol. The actual “domesticated” part (house, lawn, barn, garden, orchard, chicken run, etc.) is on about 3 cleared acres; the rest is forest.
BTW, we were just outside a few minutes ago and the mighty duo chased our two pesky does out of the yard. They were very proud of themselves!
@macromeh unfortunately I’ll probably never have that much space or an actual herd. They are super impressive though
My only functional knowledge of crossbows is that you should probably get the kind that Daryl has. Can’t miss with that thing…
@shahnm I feel like he would have broken some arrows and even if he didn’t could not get them back from all the zombies… Also a good quiete kill. I’ll buy It
@shahnm
Except on the rare occasions when it improves the story-line.
/image Chewbacca crossbow
@ybmuG clearly a recurve not compound
Excalibur makes some very well known and expensive ones. I only mention them cause I came across then digging. You would have thought everything would be compound but they do some nice recurves… That I will never be able to afford
https://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/
@unksol
Hang it - I give up on giphy
Not the greatest example, but I’m out of edit time
@ybmuG lol yeah I got that. Was just commenting on the mechanics. It does work in theory if he’s firing explosive bolts… Would make it a powerful weapon. But seems instead to function like a blaster in the originals.
Either way… Can’t ruin my star wars
I mean Han shot first. But otherwise
@ybmuG clearly it has a built in blaster with a much larger bolt they we never see him stop to cockit?
@ybmuG quite possibly. Why is he always sleeping on it though? I’d be down to see chewie stop. Stand. Pull out an RPG level (doesn’t have to be huge could have been in his sash). Take a stance and put all his strength into cocking. Then launch it at an ATST
For continuiy it would have to bounce off lol
@unksol I always wondered about that, but wasn’t going to let it ruin things for me.
@ybmuG I think there might have been an explanation I forgot in the expanded universe is been 15 or 20 years since I read them all
@ybmuG or it could be a super rare round that the wookies used to resist the empire take over of Kashyyyk… But failed and is just tradition… But he gets his hands on one… Lol lots you can play with… Which the authors used to
@unksol @ybmuG I went to a ren faire about 12 years ago and played the archery game with my own bow. This man had a beautiful recurve that’s 4 feet long (high?). I was admiring it and he let me try pulling it back. Took a lot of strength but I did it. I was so excited!..on my way out at the end of the evening, I got tapped on the shoulder and this voice says “I think your forgot something”…It was the man with the longbow and he gave it to me. He had just gotten another and didn’t know what to do with it and since I liked it so much he gave it to me.
You know, my nieces and nephews fight over who’s going to be strong enough to pull it back some day. The one, at the age of 15, (what a twig he is!) was able to put his body inside and push the bow with is rear and the string with his hands to bend it a little! It was so funny! I took a picture and a mini movie of it that I like to pass around to the family from time to time. I’ve taught them to like archery for the thrill of being like a robin hood.
@AuntMean67 I think I love everything about that story.
@unksol @ybmuG I recall an Expanded Universe book where someone gets Chewbacca’s bowcaster and has it pointed at an unarmed Han. Han think he has pretty good odds because he doesn’t think the guy will understand how to properly aim it on his first shot, and will be slow to cock it for a second.
Lol I appreciate the humor
Cross bow. Right?
Crossbows are too easy.
I moved on to using my home-made trebuchet.
Haven’t had any success yet, but it HAS changed the landscape somewhat.
(Sorry, don’t know anything about bows, except that they are damn expensive for quality.)
What are you hunting with a 5 megawatt laser?
@yakkoTDI obviously a 5 gigaton dino
I’ve got a Barnett RC150 I’ve had for years. Unfortunately in my state I believe crossbow hunting is limited to handicapped hunters so I have just played with it. It is a good bit of fun though and will come in handy during the zombie apocalypse.
@djslack reviews look a little meh? How’s it been for murder. I mean zombies
@unksol never murdered anything besides a friend’s archery targets and the first bolt I shot into a tree. The most useful thing I did with it was remove the tip and construct a big ball head using aluminum foil and duct tape, and use that bolt to knock a radio control airplane off the top of one of those 50’ or so tall highway light poles. I’ve had it for 20 years or so, it’s an old ass model for sure. It’s super stout to cock, and more of a thing that’s just badass to have than anything I find useful.
I should say why I have it given that it’s of limited use to me. When I was in college Walmart used to have a wide selection of bows. At one point they decided not to carry them anymore, and my local Walmart had every bow on clearance for $30. I went and got a fancy compound bow that weekend and took it back to college with me. When I got to school and got the bow out I realized it was messed up, misstrung or something, so the next weekend I took it back home and returned it to Walmart. There was a little old lady working in sporting goods that day, very nice but of limited expertise as to the items in her department. I returned the one bow but pickings were slim for a new one as people had rightly bought most of them up. We were both looking at the aisle and there was a big box on top of the shelf that said “BARNETT RC150 CROSSBOW”. I asked her if that was the same price and she said she wasn’t sure. I said “it does say bow on it” and she said yes, it does, so we got it down and she traded it to me for that broken bow. I probably would have gotten more use out of a compound bow, but I couldn’t resist the crossbow. I’m pretty sure she wasn’t supposed to sell it to me for $30, but that seemed like the deal of the century at the time.
@djslack lol good story
I didn’t get home in time to speak to my husband. He was already asleep. I’ll try tomorrow.
Actually, they’re called bolts, not arrows.
@medz they should be but they aren’t concistently by the people making them. so park your smug face lol
https://www.barnettcrossbows.com/hyperghost-405
Speed test using 380-grain arrow.
@medz but if your so confident what are you using. Still looking for any recommendations… Got zero.
Would recommend a light crossbow, masterwork or a +1 if you can find it. Nobody has time to spend an action reloading.
@LordSalem I went with a double enchanted ebonybbow with stacked smithing/enchanting spells/equipment for skyrim. It’s a 1 hit killer usually
I feel obligated to make this suggestion.
@blaineg thank you for bringing this man to my attention. I could be wrong but that makes a strong case to see what else he is up to.
@unksol Yes, a very strong case.
He’s one of my favorite mad scientists, along with Colin Furze, and Lauri Vuohensilta of the Hydraulic Press Channel.
One of my favorite Joerg Sprave moments was when he was making a machete launcher. After one edit there’s a six inch gash on one forearm that’s oozing blood. He never said anything about it.
The man’s a (inter)national treasure.
I haven’t been keeping up on the Slingshot Channel. Behold “Instant Legolas”.
Since I still haven’t seen my husband to ask him about this I printed out your original question. Here’s what he wrote:
A few things to look for in a crossbow. Speed, Draw weight, width, and overall weight. Most “cheaper” crossbows tend to have more weight and longer trigger pulls. I own a Fred Bear Bruzer that shoots 330 fps with 125lb draw weight. Owned it for four years. Killed deer with it. Keep your shots to 30 yards and you will do fine with any crossbow you find. It is heavy. Draw weight is comfortable. Trigger pull is long, the safeties are nice. I chose that because of draw weight. If you walk distances to hunt, weight of the crossbow is a factor. Do yourself a favor and hold some crossbows and watch You-tube videos rating them. You waited “a few” years. A little research and then your confidence will increase in your decision.
I have looked at upgrading to the latest Bear. They improved trigger pull. But Barnett, Ten Point and others will be looked at and touch what I can before I buy.
from me: I don’t know if this will help you but that’s what he wrote. Good luck.
@AuntMean67 appreciated. I still have a tenpoint titan m1 with some other stuff in a cart. But a cva muzzel loader in the mail. May still pull the trigger on a crossbow.
@AuntMean67 @unksol no pun intended…