PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS LISTING IS NOT PART OF THE SEPTEMBER 12-13 MEHRATHON, AND IF YOU BUY IT USING THIS LINK, THE PURCHASE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE IRK REBATE
@bigkiskewl@medz Interesting, I didn’t see it on the main page, detailed description, or the first link I clicked (vendor page?). The meh chart also says 10V, but I suspect that should be the nominal 12.8V; 10V would be the minimum voltage for 4x LFP cells.
It’s also not clear if the 12V output is a regulated 12V (current limited) or follows battery voltage.
Regardless, 200W w/ 200WHr doesn’t do much for me. It won’t run an appliance like a fridge or coffee maker. Most laptops run on ~19V AC to DC supplies, to charge their ~100Wh batteries, but laptops have batteries already, this seems unnecessary, particularly to just charge them once or twice; That said, Several LiPoly jump starters that have been sold in the last few years have variable voltage DC to DC converters and laptop tips that serve this need well. (DC to DC is more efficient than 12V DC to 120V AC to 19V DC)
The only practical purpose I could see for this is someone needing a CPAP machine off-grid, or running a few AC lamps at home if you don’t have a house full of flashlights already.
FWIW, I don’t know that I trust the lifespan claims of cheaper LFP batteries. I’ve had a few Amazon special 12.8V 7-10AH LFP batteries (~90-120Whr) that didn’t seem to hold up more than a year. They often have 1-2C BMS’s, so aren’t terribly useful for high power devices. (Internal construction is typically 4 large cylindrical cells, so today’s product is probably 8 of them.)
As far as UPS usage goes, $99 for a UPS for my fiber ONT/routers/switches seems tempting, but I’d caution shoehorning a product like this into an atypical use case, especially for long term use. I’ve got my router/switch running on a much older meh/woot power station. The inverter died, but my router runs on 12V, so it’s wired up direct to the regulated DC output port, and my switch runs on 5V, so it’s running on one of the USB ports via cut off USB to barrel plug cable.
@caffeineguy Thanks for the details and your thought process. I would not have taken the time to think this thru as well because my brain is currently focused on other things (primarily buying property 7-8 minutes’ drive from my grandsons’ home in Matthews NC, the closing for which is on Sept 20).
@caffeineguy That’s an inherent limitation with the battery chemistry. Some LFP formulations can handle more, but $$$ and other trade-offs. Generally speaking, NMC can handle higher discharge rates (think power tool batteries), LiPo even more (hence the ability to work as jump starters).
@caffeineguy@narfcake I don’t understand the battery technology that much but was amazed at what the larger boosters could do. I had good experience with plug-in NOCO chargers so tried a medium-big booster that said it could start a Diesel pickup truck. Was very impressed when it could do so with no problem, even with about 30 seconds of glow plug first. For me it was not cheap $250 on sale or something— Amazon seems to have good discount promos. If you look the same brand has things that can start heavy equipment like a bulldozer or a highway semi truck. But those are over $1K. Wouldn’t believe it could work but after my experience with my medium unit guess I believe it. No battery issues after a few years. Also USB-C charging that can supply a laptop, and a fairly good emergency light and flasher (lower units have that too but not as many lumens)
Confusing description. Does it really last 4-5 times longer or does it actually have 4-5 times recharge cycles ?
I’d figure most people should be able to reason it out but then again over 200 people bought those cheap overpriced “leather” shoe boxes made of paper for $20.
@Addyct@Odysseus1001 ultimately the answer to this question is input power vs output power. If you are consuming towards the upper limit (200W), the charge system needs to be able to support that. If you’re running a router/switches to the tune of 10W, then it might be sufficient, particularly if you can bypass the AC output and go direct DC to DC, but be aware some of these things like to shut down certain outputs automatically.
@Odysseus1001 “Can I charge my power station while also powering devices?
Yes, the power station can power other devices even while it is being recharged. However it is not recommended to use the power station while it is being recharged.”
…whatever the hell that means
@Odysseus1001 [edited] The specs state that it can be getting charged and be in use providing power at the same time but this is not recommended. It’s anemic for a desktop unit in that application, but would be adequate for lower drain devices like a laptop, switch, router, tablet, etc. I would hesitate to use the 110 volt outlets on this because the inefficiency of the converter would further limit the runtime. It is best suited to provide emergency power for those devices that can run off of the DC outlets; the USB, and the 12 volt. I used my larger versions for that purpose during the week we were without power after Beryl, while keeping the fridge, freezer, microwave, and some lighting alive via my gas generator. I would have to periodically recharge one of the packs from the generator feeds, but the use of packs like these reduced the number of extension cords I had laying around on the floor.
@blaineg@Odysseus1001 The user manual explicitly states that it can be used while being recharged, which implies that it could be already in use while fully charged and hooked up to AC. However, it says that it is not recommended to have it in use while it is being recharged. I interpret that as meaning this unit is not well suited to being used as a UPS, since in essence it would be in use while being recharged before the power fails. There would be no switchover because it is not just a pass-through, it is a matter of power going both into and out of the battery pack at the same time.
Wow. COBRA is still a brand? I remember my brother had a Cobra CB Radio some time around the mid 80s. That thing fascinated me, but we lived in the middle of nowhere and never really picked up much of anything.
@j4yx0r I remember them for selling a device who’s only functions were to annoy your passengers and ensure you got a ticket if you were pulled over… before Waze existed.
@blaineg@j4yx0r Cobra survived the complete collapse of the CB radio market in the early '80s better than many of their competitors, but that market never recovered after the solar max ended. They tried to branch out into other automotive and truck consumer electronics, but there just wasn’t enough of any of it. I suspect that in the end, their most valuable asset was the name. In the past few years, I’ve seen the name pasted on to stuff that was clearly outside their historic range.
@j4yx0r I actually used CB radios one might have been a Cobra, as late as the 90s. AFAIK truckers might still use them but obviously have online apps too. The benefit of CB that we have lost in today’s internet culture is that everybody around you whoever they were (within a few miles) was your circle of friends.
Did at least 2 things in the 90s (was that so long ago?? … maybe it was) where it was recommended to have one and I used one on both a Jeep Jamboree in Utah and a motorhome organized Caravan through Northeast and Canada. Great memories of how well the old tech worked for us. BTW a lot of those areas might not have cell phone coverage (esp since Analog went away; could explain but would be TL;DR).
At one point you were supposed to get an FCC CB license (not as serious as a Ham Radio license). They dropped that at some point. Pretty sure I was KBRD0574. 10-10 on the side!
@medz@werehatrack From photos, no external connection for earth ground. Also only “ground” mentioned in manual is for shipping. (But GFCIs on AC out are reassuring.)
On the other hand, if you need an isolating transformer for < 200 watts, …
Nice, it doesn’t cost very much!
(though this one isn’t as awesomely electrobotic) /showme how much money I would spend on that cobra being used as a power station for my devices
According to the product description at Amazon, the capacity of this unit is 211WH. So you’re paying less than $0.50 per watt-hour of capacity, which is quite good.
As for the “lasts 4-5 times longer” claim, since this uses Lithium-Iron-Phosphate batteries, I’m guessing it can endure 4-5 times the number of recharge cycles. Iron/Phosphate batteries tend to have slightly less capacity than Manganese/Cobalt batteries, but are usually more durable when it comes to enduring charge cycles. But as I said, it’s just a guess on my part that the “longer lasting” claim refers to charge cycles. I don’t really know.
The “True Sine Wave” feature–if it actually works–is a nice thing to have so you don’t fry your laptop computers when you plug them in. Computers usually don’t do well when plugged into stepped-wave or square-wave inverters.
EDIT: Ah, I see I took too long to respond, and others beat me to it. What a great, informed community. Well done.
I’ve never had trouble running a laptop from modified sine wave. The power bricks use high frequency switching converters so they’re not sensitive to the waveform. You need pure sine wave for certain types of motors, and for analog electronics (audio gear) where eletrical noise can get into the output so you hear buzzing over the sound.
This thing weighs 10 lb which is kind of heavy. One of these days when I get something like it, it will be a bigger one, like 1000WH or more, I expect.
@phendrick what I could see via the mobile interface didn’t mention that anywhere, but then, what they present via their mobile interface is almost as useful as the badly translated user manuals that come with many Asian made devices. They seem obsessed with trying to provide information about something else, instead of the item I’m looking at.
In the last 5 years how many times did I need a 200 watt (~1.5A at 120volts) power source.
ZERO.
Will it power a refrigerator or oven or microwave or … NO.
@SnookerDave it’ll power a few floor lamps, as if anyone buying this thing doesn’t already have a pile of cheap knockoff Cree flashlights and meh lanterns
@caffeineguy@SnookerDave It will power quite a few floor or table lamps if they use LED or CFL bulbs, but it won’t power very many running old incandescent ones.
@SnookerDave It could be useful to power fans through the night. Because using my larger power station just for fans wastes energy on the inverter. I experienced this in Hurricane Beryl. And of course useful for camping or other outings.
Someone else pointed out that its USB output is low. If it was 45 watts, I might consider it though I already have a 700 watt Bluetti that’s not good for much more than fans & charging laptops. It could run a DC fridge that I don’t have.
@betterways@SnookerDave I’d get one to run a pump for a paddleboard and to run things like the portable tire inflater. Stuff where you want a little power and don’t want to find an extension cord. Unfortunately, all the devices of that type I own are 12V so I just use the jump starter.
I don’t get why so many people are acting like this should be a UPS or a house backup battery. Marketing material notwithstanding, it’s pretty clearly designed for being carried around like on a camping trip or otherwise in your car for charging your phone or powering a radio.
That said, 200Wh isn’t much, although I’m not sure whether that’s reasonable within this price range and I don’t feel like researching it. I can’t help but feel like the whole “pure sine wave” thing only reads as a “we need some way of getting this thing to stand out among a thousand other products that do the exact same thing,” since a vast majority of electronics that aren’t analog audio equipment will run perfectly fine without conditioned power. It all runs off your home power, normally, after all, and that’s certainly not a clean sine wave.
This is tempting. Cobra is a real brand that makes real stuff, unlike anonymous Chinese brand #171 that these things usually are from.
I feel like this may be in middle territory for me. Not big enough to power lots of things and not cheap enough to just buy for camping trips when I already have a pile of much smaller batteries lying around.
200 watts = max 2 amps. Barely enough for anything over a LED light bulb. Will not even do a coffee pot. I have a 400 watt inverter on my truck. Can’t do a coffee pot. This would charge a laptop or phones and that’s it
Specs
Product: Cobra 200W Pure Sine Wave Portable Power Station
Model: CPPS244W
Condition: New
What’s Included?
Price Comparison
$279.95 at Amazon
Manufacturer’s Page
Warranty
2-Year Cobra
Estimated Delivery
Friday, Sep 13 - Monday, Sep 16
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS LISTING IS NOT PART OF THE SEPTEMBER 12-13 MEHRATHON, AND IF YOU BUY IT USING THIS LINK, THE PURCHASE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE IRK REBATE
And yet, there’s no actual ‘capacity’ listed— Only 10V (battery V) and 200W (inverter rating).
@caffeineguy “The large internal 211Wh Lithium Iron Phosphate battery can power your gear all day and will last through the years”
@caffeineguy
@caffeineguy @medz Thanks Medz – I added it to the specs.
Ha ha! No thanks for you, @bigkiskewl!
@bigkiskewl @medz Ha! You too, Bigkiskewl!!
@bigkiskewl @medz Interesting, I didn’t see it on the main page, detailed description, or the first link I clicked (vendor page?). The meh chart also says 10V, but I suspect that should be the nominal 12.8V; 10V would be the minimum voltage for 4x LFP cells.
It’s also not clear if the 12V output is a regulated 12V (current limited) or follows battery voltage.
Regardless, 200W w/ 200WHr doesn’t do much for me. It won’t run an appliance like a fridge or coffee maker. Most laptops run on ~19V AC to DC supplies, to charge their ~100Wh batteries, but laptops have batteries already, this seems unnecessary, particularly to just charge them once or twice; That said, Several LiPoly jump starters that have been sold in the last few years have variable voltage DC to DC converters and laptop tips that serve this need well. (DC to DC is more efficient than 12V DC to 120V AC to 19V DC)
The only practical purpose I could see for this is someone needing a CPAP machine off-grid, or running a few AC lamps at home if you don’t have a house full of flashlights already.
FWIW, I don’t know that I trust the lifespan claims of cheaper LFP batteries. I’ve had a few Amazon special 12.8V 7-10AH LFP batteries (~90-120Whr) that didn’t seem to hold up more than a year. They often have 1-2C BMS’s, so aren’t terribly useful for high power devices. (Internal construction is typically 4 large cylindrical cells, so today’s product is probably 8 of them.)
As far as UPS usage goes, $99 for a UPS for my fiber ONT/routers/switches seems tempting, but I’d caution shoehorning a product like this into an atypical use case, especially for long term use. I’ve got my router/switch running on a much older meh/woot power station. The inverter died, but my router runs on 12V, so it’s wired up direct to the regulated DC output port, and my switch runs on 5V, so it’s running on one of the USB ports via cut off USB to barrel plug cable.
@caffeineguy Thanks for the details and your thought process. I would not have taken the time to think this thru as well because my brain is currently focused on other things (primarily buying property 7-8 minutes’ drive from my grandsons’ home in Matthews NC, the closing for which is on Sept 20).
@caffeineguy That’s an inherent limitation with the battery chemistry. Some LFP formulations can handle more, but $$$ and other trade-offs. Generally speaking, NMC can handle higher discharge rates (think power tool batteries), LiPo even more (hence the ability to work as jump starters).
@caffeineguy @narfcake I don’t understand the battery technology that much but was amazed at what the larger boosters could do. I had good experience with plug-in NOCO chargers so tried a medium-big booster that said it could start a Diesel pickup truck. Was very impressed when it could do so with no problem, even with about 30 seconds of glow plug first. For me it was not cheap $250 on sale or something— Amazon seems to have good discount promos. If you look the same brand has things that can start heavy equipment like a bulldozer or a highway semi truck. But those are over $1K. Wouldn’t believe it could work but after my experience with my medium unit guess I believe it. No battery issues after a few years. Also USB-C charging that can supply a laptop, and a fairly good emergency light and flasher (lower units have that too but not as many lumens)
@baqui63 @caffeineguy
How exciting to be moving close to your grandson! It’s going to be a fun new world for both of you, ENJOY!
Confusing description. Does it really last 4-5 times longer or does it actually have 4-5 times recharge cycles ?
I’d figure most people should be able to reason it out but then again over 200 people bought those cheap overpriced “leather” shoe boxes made of paper for $20.
@qazxto an alternative, 50-70 bucks more but better in every way, note dc vs ac/dc options. Anker SOLIX C300.
@qazxto I see the C300 at $180 to $200 bucks elsewhere. Where is it $150?
@qazxto @sligett https://www.anker.com/products/a17221z1?variant=44005870239894&wgu=303050_163391_17261246011629_c1da043e1d&wgexpiry=1757660601&source=webgains&siteid=163391
First!
@wootthereitis YKUTW.IDNTIMWYTIM.
@werehatrack Not sure what you’re communicating, but all I can say is this: First!
@werehatrack @wootthereitis
@werehatrack @wootthereitis Neither time.
Even if you were, nobody cares.
@wootthereitis That’s the proper way to do it.
Can this be used as a UPS, or not so much?
@Odysseus1001 I would also like to know this, so im going to piggy back this comment. I would buy this if it can be used as a UPS for my desktop.
@Odysseus1001 200w is not a lot of juice for a desktop PC
@Addyct @Odysseus1001 ultimately the answer to this question is input power vs output power. If you are consuming towards the upper limit (200W), the charge system needs to be able to support that. If you’re running a router/switches to the tune of 10W, then it might be sufficient, particularly if you can bypass the AC output and go direct DC to DC, but be aware some of these things like to shut down certain outputs automatically.
@Odysseus1001 “Can I charge my power station while also powering devices?
Yes, the power station can power other devices even while it is being recharged. However it is not recommended to use the power station while it is being recharged.”
…whatever the hell that means
@Odysseus1001 [edited] The specs state that it can be getting charged and be in use providing power at the same time but this is not recommended. It’s anemic for a desktop unit in that application, but would be adequate for lower drain devices like a laptop, switch, router, tablet, etc. I would hesitate to use the 110 volt outlets on this because the inefficiency of the converter would further limit the runtime. It is best suited to provide emergency power for those devices that can run off of the DC outlets; the USB, and the 12 volt. I used my larger versions for that purpose during the week we were without power after Beryl, while keeping the fridge, freezer, microwave, and some lighting alive via my gas generator. I would have to periodically recharge one of the packs from the generator feeds, but the use of packs like these reduced the number of extension cords I had laying around on the floor.
@Odysseus1001 I doubt it, no provision for auto switchover.
@blaineg @Odysseus1001 The user manual explicitly states that it can be used while being recharged, which implies that it could be already in use while fully charged and hooked up to AC. However, it says that it is not recommended to have it in use while it is being recharged. I interpret that as meaning this unit is not well suited to being used as a UPS, since in essence it would be in use while being recharged before the power fails. There would be no switchover because it is not just a pass-through, it is a matter of power going both into and out of the battery pack at the same time.
Wow. COBRA is still a brand? I remember my brother had a Cobra CB Radio some time around the mid 80s. That thing fascinated me, but we lived in the middle of nowhere and never really picked up much of anything.
@j4yx0r I remember them for selling a device who’s only functions were to annoy your passengers and ensure you got a ticket if you were pulled over… before Waze existed.
@j4yx0r Found this:
What happened to Cobra Electronics?
Cobra Electronics Corporation was acquired by Monomoy Capital Partners on Aug 28, 2014.
So perhaps just another empty shell used for marketing.
@blaineg @j4yx0r Cobra survived the complete collapse of the CB radio market in the early '80s better than many of their competitors, but that market never recovered after the solar max ended. They tried to branch out into other automotive and truck consumer electronics, but there just wasn’t enough of any of it. I suspect that in the end, their most valuable asset was the name. In the past few years, I’ve seen the name pasted on to stuff that was clearly outside their historic range.
@j4yx0r I actually used CB radios one might have been a Cobra, as late as the 90s. AFAIK truckers might still use them but obviously have online apps too. The benefit of CB that we have lost in today’s internet culture is that everybody around you whoever they were (within a few miles) was your circle of friends.
Did at least 2 things in the 90s (was that so long ago?? … maybe it was) where it was recommended to have one and I used one on both a Jeep Jamboree in Utah and a motorhome organized Caravan through Northeast and Canada. Great memories of how well the old tech worked for us. BTW a lot of those areas might not have cell phone coverage (esp since Analog went away; could explain but would be TL;DR).
At one point you were supposed to get an FCC CB license (not as serious as a Ham Radio license). They dropped that at some point. Pretty sure I was KBRD0574. 10-10 on the side!
2 or 3 prong outlets?
@medz Three, but the ground prong is not a true earth ground.
@medz @werehatrack From photos, no external connection for earth ground. Also only “ground” mentioned in manual is for shipping. (But GFCIs on AC out are reassuring.)
On the other hand, if you need an isolating transformer for < 200 watts, …
/showme a cobra being used as a power station for my devices
@mediocrebot badass
@mediocrebot now this is a power bank I would spend money on!
Nice, it doesn’t cost very much!
(though this one isn’t as awesomely electrobotic)
/showme how much money I would spend on that cobra being used as a power station for my devicesAccording to the product description at Amazon, the capacity of this unit is 211WH. So you’re paying less than $0.50 per watt-hour of capacity, which is quite good.
As for the “lasts 4-5 times longer” claim, since this uses Lithium-Iron-Phosphate batteries, I’m guessing it can endure 4-5 times the number of recharge cycles. Iron/Phosphate batteries tend to have slightly less capacity than Manganese/Cobalt batteries, but are usually more durable when it comes to enduring charge cycles. But as I said, it’s just a guess on my part that the “longer lasting” claim refers to charge cycles. I don’t really know.
The “True Sine Wave” feature–if it actually works–is a nice thing to have so you don’t fry your laptop computers when you plug them in. Computers usually don’t do well when plugged into stepped-wave or square-wave inverters.
EDIT: Ah, I see I took too long to respond, and others beat me to it. What a great, informed community. Well done.
I’ve never had trouble running a laptop from modified sine wave. The power bricks use high frequency switching converters so they’re not sensitive to the waveform. You need pure sine wave for certain types of motors, and for analog electronics (audio gear) where eletrical noise can get into the output so you hear buzzing over the sound.
This thing weighs 10 lb which is kind of heavy. One of these days when I get something like it, it will be a bigger one, like 1000WH or more, I expect.
@phr According to the user manual it’s 7.9 lbs.
@phr that makes a ton of sense because Cobra makes radio communication devices, like CB radios back in the day
Awwwe, it’s so cute, so does it want to be a generac when it grows up?
@somf69 Or maybe a Powerwall.
@sligett @somf69 Or an Anker Solix.
@sligett @somf69 we ALL want to be that!
So powerful!
So manly (Or womanly if appropriate)
So Elon
So creepy.
Possible to be many things at once.
Checking Polaris Dawn launch supposed to be in a few hours, way past my bedtime. Looked like a lot of weather risk for delay.
On the A’zon link:
???
I didn’t even see a hole to pour that in.
@phendrick what I could see via the mobile interface didn’t mention that anywhere, but then, what they present via their mobile interface is almost as useful as the badly translated user manuals that come with many Asian made devices. They seem obsessed with trying to provide information about something else, instead of the item I’m looking at.
@phendrick I’m sure Youtube can help you out with that.
@werehatrack
" They seem obsessed with trying to provide information about something else, instead of the item I’m looking at. "
In other words, same coders as for their search engines.
@blaineg you mean like
@phendrick that’s what she said
@blaineg @phendrick It’s even funnier when you know that the type of hole saw pictured is really, truly crap quality.
It is not terrible. Of course I am going to sound nit-picky but… I wish it had at least PD 45 watts on the usb-C.
@ohhwell That’s not being picky, that’s being realistic in the modern world. High output USB-C is rapidly becoming a necessity.
/showme fluid hostile lock
In the last 5 years how many times did I need a 200 watt (~1.5A at 120volts) power source.
ZERO.
Will it power a refrigerator or oven or microwave or … NO.
@SnookerDave it’ll power a few floor lamps, as if anyone buying this thing doesn’t already have a pile of cheap knockoff Cree flashlights and meh lanterns
@SnookerDave Though oven and microwave are also not really emergency power-outage devices. But yeah, fridge is the big one.
@caffeineguy @SnookerDave It will power quite a few floor or table lamps if they use LED or CFL bulbs, but it won’t power very many running old incandescent ones.
@SnookerDave It could be useful to power fans through the night. Because using my larger power station just for fans wastes energy on the inverter. I experienced this in Hurricane Beryl. And of course useful for camping or other outings.
Someone else pointed out that its USB output is low. If it was 45 watts, I might consider it though I already have a 700 watt Bluetti that’s not good for much more than fans & charging laptops. It could run a DC fridge that I don’t have.
@betterways @SnookerDave I’d get one to run a pump for a paddleboard and to run things like the portable tire inflater. Stuff where you want a little power and don’t want to find an extension cord. Unfortunately, all the devices of that type I own are 12V so I just use the jump starter.
I don’t get why so many people are acting like this should be a UPS or a house backup battery. Marketing material notwithstanding, it’s pretty clearly designed for being carried around like on a camping trip or otherwise in your car for charging your phone or powering a radio.
That said, 200Wh isn’t much, although I’m not sure whether that’s reasonable within this price range and I don’t feel like researching it. I can’t help but feel like the whole “pure sine wave” thing only reads as a “we need some way of getting this thing to stand out among a thousand other products that do the exact same thing,” since a vast majority of electronics that aren’t analog audio equipment will run perfectly fine without conditioned power. It all runs off your home power, normally, after all, and that’s certainly not a clean sine wave.
Some people on reddit had issue with its performance.
@lichen I bought one, so will be sure to put it through its paces thoroughly when it arrives, JIC, while still easy to work with CS.
This is tempting. Cobra is a real brand that makes real stuff, unlike anonymous Chinese brand #171 that these things usually are from.
I feel like this may be in middle territory for me. Not big enough to power lots of things and not cheap enough to just buy for camping trips when I already have a pile of much smaller batteries lying around.
@jgoldshlag eh. Cobra is now owned by a private equity firm so all bets are off. Likely licensed the name to Chinese manufacturer so that people would think exactly what you are thinking. I’m not saying it’s bad just that it’s probably no better. https://www.tradeonlytoday.com/industry-news/cobra-electronics-owner
Why am I getting the impression that power packs like this are the new Meh speakerdocks?
Not that I’m complaining, given that I’ve bought more than one already…
@werehatrack Makes me surprised they don’t have built-in BT speakers; everything else seems to.
200 watts = max 2 amps. Barely enough for anything over a LED light bulb. Will not even do a coffee pot. I have a 400 watt inverter on my truck. Can’t do a coffee pot. This would charge a laptop or phones and that’s it
@jonjen2 what about a radio?
/image little radio
@jonjen2 @medz Suitable.
@werehatrack a small LED projector and roku for an outdoor movie?
@medz No clue here.