@mike808 The temperature of our house’s incoming cold water supply is 40 degrees F here in Ohio this month. If your winter is like ours, then you must live in a very large building where the water is indoors awhile before reaching your bathroom. Like maybe the tenth floor or so in order for the cold water to be comfortably near room temperature.
@sparkyfarad It’s municipal supply ground temperature. If you need the hot, then get the 270. Run the vanity hot until the hot watet gets there, then run the bidet so that the hot water is right there. You can run it with the nozzles retracted until the hot water gets there and use the temperature control.
Purchased the A3 last time they were offered. I was initially skeptical about how much of an improvement they were over normal wiping. I won’t say a Bidet is a “life changing” experience (using one IS a noticeable upgrade over just wiping as far as matter extrication goes), but(t) it does provide a more enjoyable toilet experience. For the price Meh is selling them at I’d easily recommend them to anyone curious.
Meh has enlightened me in that I need to join the rest of the world and get one of these. I want! I want!
I’m guessing it hooks into the h2o in of the toilet. The warmer function…do i need a close by AC plug?
I need the warmer one. I’m in the middle of PA, where winter nights are often 15F. Icicles hanging off my bum seems a concern.
I don’t wanna be running extension cords everywhere.
@wew it’s not electric- electric ones cost WAY more- in the hundreds and come with awesome functions like seat warmers and massagers and a remote control and stuff.
All this does is hook into the hot water line that runs to your sink, so you need to make sure that is close to your toilet and accessible.
Unless the bathroom is against an exterior wall (doubtful due to risk of frozen pipes), you actually probably don’t NEED the warm line because the cold water line is more room temperature. Not to say warm isn’t an upgrade, just not necessary, even in cold winters.
@yankeesrule In your experience, does the warm water heat at the same rate as it would coming out of the tap, i.e. does it start cold? I imagine there’s no built-in reservoir as that would require electric heat.
@harveydanger I don’t know from first hand experience since my knowledge just comes from researching what to buy over the past few months, but I would assume it’s the same as when it first comes from the sink, which means luke warm at best. Remember, it’s mechanical so there couldn’t be a temperature control, other than the ratio of water from the cold and hot line Probably a good thing it’s the first water that comes out because who wants scalding hot water on your ass?
The electric ones heat up the water to a specific temperature, but they cost in the hundreds.
Anyone with the A3 - did it result in a weird cantilever action with your toilet seat? How did you fix it if so? I got some rubber pad things on Amazon, but two of the four already fell off and they don’t seem that sanitary.
Re: the fancy electric ones that cost hundreds - I want one someday, would it require installing a dedicated outlet like for an oven or microwave?
@harveydanger I recently got one of the fancy ones that cost 3.29 hundreds (it is a Bio Bidet BLISS BB-1700. I’ve not installed it yet; it connects to the toilet’s cold water supply and plugs into a grounded outlet within 3’ of the toilet. It uses a max of 1150w, IIRC.
In my case, I’ve got two bathrooms (1st floor and basement) each with a duplex GFCI outlet, a vanity light (3X40w) and a ceiling light and fan (not even 200w) on a single 20A breaker. The BB-1700 is for the 1st floor bathroom and I’m planning to add another duplex GFCI outlet daisy-chained from the existing one and mounted between the toilet and sink.
I’m also planning to add a chilipepper pump that will use the same outlet as the BB-1700. (Anyone who dislikes waiting for hot water or hates wasting water to get hot water should check these puppies out… a very clever solution to this problem that wastes no water and almost no energy.)
@harveydanger - We did have the cantilever issue you mentioned, and after some half-assed attempts to even it out, the bridge of the bidet cracked at the stress point - it doesn’t LOOK great, but it evened it out and still works.
@harveydanger the insert of the bidet raised the seat up about 1/4 inch, so I just put some additional stick on bumpers towards the front to give it support. If you need more support, add more bumpers. A couple dozen if you need to.
Alrighty ye haters and half-wits! I am here to pronounce these bidets awesome.
I bought the cold water one off Amazon a couple of months back and I love it. There is a reason that half the civilized planet uses bidets. Wash that poop away instead of smearing it all over your ass.
It works very well, and the cold water is not an issue–the main sensation is of the pressure, not the temperature. We have three toilets in my house but I always use the one with the bidet.
@Talidan If you’re getting hit in the nuggets, you are absolutely 100% without-a-doubt Doing It Wrong . Fact. Although, this does raise the issue of a serious lack of YouTube instructional videos on “How to use a bidet” for obvious reasons. We, as a society, have clearly not advanced enough yet.
@troy Tried all options at all pressure settings, just doesn’t hit my butt no matter what. I think it has to do with my toilet and how far back it, with where it has the seat bolts, can position the bidet attachment.
@StealthSabre Doing it right to the best of my abilities. I’m not getting rid of it, but I’m hoping to get a new toilet in the future, and it will probably work then.
FYI if you buy the hot water one, you HAVE to hook it up to hot water. I bought it in the last sale despite not caring about hot water because it had an upgraded / sturdier valve. Turns out the hose connections in the bidet are either proprietary or some foreign standard that simply aren’t available here- no way to buy a plug that I could find, at least at my local home center. It leaks if you hook it up without a hose attached to hot.
We have one with cold water in the half bath, and it’s okay. I’d use it more if it was warmer, but the wife seems to like it just fine.
Just pulled the trigger on the warm-water option. If the fittings work with the bathtub plumbing, it’ll go in the full bath (where the toilet’s eight feet from the sink with a tub in between). If not, it’ll go in the half and I’ll transplant the other to the full.
Actually, I might just put it straight into the half bath, which is almost directly over the water heater. I don’t really want to have to run the bidet for 45 seconds before it warms up.
@mike808 That’s what I’m thinking. I’m just not entirely sure the fittings will match. The house is 150 years old, and the plumbing is pretty patchworked, so I won’t know until I have the access panel off. The half bath is brand new, though, so I know it’ll fit there.
Bought these awhile ago and love them. Don’t have heated ones and it’s just fine with us. People that don’t use them are just icky. Icky I tell you! Don’t know how one can live without them. What a relief not having to wipe away ur crap today! Meh, ur doing us all a public service.
I bought the fancier model. In fact, it’s currently attached to the brand new toilet in my recently remodeled master bath. HOWEVER, the hot water connector hose (all 72 inches of it) connection was not threaded at one end. I contacted the company on the 12th about it, and they’ve sent a brand new hose–a shorter one because we only needed 2 feet rather than 6. It’s scheduled to arrive via post today. (Stupid hose went sightseeing around the country. Some days I wonder who is in charge at the post office).
As @robertdana says, it IS a propriety hose so no running to your local bigbox store for a quick replacement. The hot water port does drip when not connected with a hose. We have a small plastic dish collecting the occasional drips.
My suggestion is if you’re definitely going to buy this, pop on over to the Bio Bidet website and pick up a spare hose just to have it on hand in the rare event you need it. They run about $20.
Take a look at the bottom of the page in this link. It will give you an idea of which toilets these bidet attachments are compatible. friendlytoilets
@LaVikinga the hose I saw is a toilet hose, 7/8" on both ends. Not very common, you could connect two regular toilet hoses together in a pinch. Most bidets use a 3/8 compression cap. If it is a 7/8, the best bet would be to grab a toilet hose that has a 1/2 connection on it and plug that.
I don’t see the point of getting the hot water model - it takes 2 minutes for hot water to reach my sink via half-inch copper, I can’t imagine how long I’d have to sit and hose my hole with this thing before it finally starts to warm up.
I LOVE the vilification of toilet paper in this thread - WTF is wrong with so many of you that using paper results in smearing shit all over yourselves??? JFC…
Warning: Once you wash your crack, you’ll never go back.
I.e., once you get used to using a bidet, getting stuck ‘going’ without one becomes almost intolerably disgusting.
I even have a portable travel ‘washlet’ given to me as a gift.
Quick story - when my brother and his Japanese girlfriend moved in together, I got her old hand-me-down bidet toilet seat (heated water and seat).
I was a quick and easy convert (unlike a lot of Americans, the concept, while foreign to me, made total sense and didn’t gross me out at all - I understood immediately that it would be a vast improvement over TP).
It was her mother who gifted me the Toto portable unit, when we all went on a cruise together - very thoughtful woman, best gift ever.
After that seat, um, crapped out (it had to be ~20 years old at that point) I didn’t hesitate to buy a $300 Toto to replace it (& luckily, I had that portable washer for the interim).
Heated seat & water, hot air dryer and a few other bells & whistles (but no actual bells & whistles ) - a warm seat on a cold morning is, almost literally, the lap of luxury.
My advice would be - if you can afford it - skip these partial units and go straight for a full toilet seat model, heated seat and all (lesser brands than Toto can be had for much less than $300 with the same features).
Sorry Meh - but if you can find closeout deals on portable travel units, I’ll be happy to evangelize for them.
It can be a bit of a challenge to aim and use, and the water can get out from under you and make a bit of a mess (just errant water, nothing gross), but it’s totally worth it for a clean bum.
They do sell them on Amazon, but they only show the closed unit on the product page, which might leave one mystified as to how it works, hence the video instead.
I bought an A3 about a year ago, and while it only worked for a few weeks (the nozzle stopped fully extending), it served as a gateway bidet into some more full-featured washlets. A few words of warning:
-Start off easy with the lowest pressure setting, and work your way up. About 3-4 clicks in it starts walking the fine line from “bidet” to “toilet-mounted enema beam”. Make no mistake; this is a veritable butt-hole blaster.
-Seeing as these mount under your toilet seat, they will lift the back about a half-inch higher than it was to begin with. This had the unfortunate effect of making the front of the seat hover over the bowl, and my seat would flex every time I sat on it. You might be able to buy a lift kit for some of the nicer seats, however my cheap-o plastic seat had no such options.
After traveling through Asia and ME and using bum guns everywhere, I bought 2 similar bidets soon as I got back. Picking one of these up for the 3rd bathroom. After using bidets in whatever form, you feel like a savage not having them.
It’s a bit troubling that things have been so slow here lately, that the most excitement I’ve seen for a product in recent memory is for a discount bidet attachment. And the time before that was for fidget spinners…
For that reason alone, I bought one… I do feel better.
Just got everything up and took it for a check ride.
Very worth the very low price.
Blonde moment of the day: Wanted to see what the different spray options looked like when I wasn’t seated. Apparently, this baby is magically guided to your Princess parts no matter how far away from the toilet one stands. Excuse me while I change out of my giving-up-on-life-fat pants into something a bit more dry.
I’m sure this has been mentioned before, “butt” on the safe side I’m going to repeat it.
The warm water bidet is the most useless of the bunch. Not only are many toilet supply lines not close to vanities, sometimes they come from different water supply lines all together. Even if they are on the same wall who wants a 76" garden hose running from your toilet into your vanity for this?
But let’s not argue about that.
In my part of the country which is the Midwest, the water running to my toilet for the first flush is not going to be at room temperature because it is not “tank” water. Which is a cold 70 degrees on the skin anyway; not to mention the tush and private parts! But there might be enough supply line on an inside wall to be 70 degrees?
The next couple of flushes are going to be the below ground water flow (8’ in most areas) and that normally is a respectable 60-65 degrees year-round. My privates are shriveling just thinking about the cold spay.
Even if I were to hook up a hot water supply line in the funky bypass magical way they want you to hook it up, I would have to bidet myself for a couple minutes before warm water would hit my dark spot. In that amount of time I will have either become wrinkly or I will have given myself an enema.
In conclusion, my tighty whities will have to stay white the old fashion way. Bleach.
Had someone over yesterday to give me a sales pitch on Tesla solar panels. He asked to use the bathroom, and came out looking chagrined and a little damp. My toilet has a push botton flush mechanism, and he mistook the biobidet for the flush and sprayed himself and the whole bathroom down. And still didn’t manage to flush the toilet. Tesla guy not so good with tech.
What I’d wanted when I replaced the toilet was one of these, but I couldn’t find one back then, so I settled for the push button that saves water if you use it properly.