@jouest@spacemart I read that a few hours ago and had no idea how you got from point A to point B. I just came back again and realized, of course, ‘cause YouTube.
@blaineg@jouest@spacemart It is more of an arch-tangent.
I had to research terms a bit to make sure, yes: Sometimes “arch” is used as a prefix to mean extreme or bad
Also did remember there is a legitimate term called arc-tangent in geometry. But means opposite-of.
@phendrick Did that growing up; my mother had a wholesale supply company and she would often take me with her. We had to deliver to stores on Market Street and use the back alleys since they don’t want you walking with boxes in the main front door. Usually from a Volkswagen BTW.
So yes had to step over many homeless and this was about 50 years ago. Back then they were just called winos; certainly the street drug thing was not as it is now. Still can remember the smell of urine which pervaded the alleys. Not fresh, necessarily; just decades of it.
Once I was attacked by an old woman in a military surplus store, of all places. Not physically but she was yelling and it was scary. Fond memories.
@katbyter or to anybody else for that matter. I learn best on the fly. The information sticks best when I use it immediately in an applicative way and/or have to explain it to someone else.
@jitc@katbyter absolutely true. In my work (recently retired) I was often asked to teach customer training classes (8-12 students, about a week). Often only a month or two after I first attended the class myself. No better way to learn stuff.
@pmarin@Tadlem43 Yep I agree! But the users don’t want to do that! But that is the Best for them not too. If they need to learn to use that item for their Job, the Company would provide a class that will teach the Correct use of Item/ Software!
They can always call the level 1 Help Desk. they will ask did you turn it off then on again. If yes, lets put in a ticket & a tech will be with you shortly! Then I or one of my Teammates would come, bringing our Magic wand & pixy dust to fix the issue.
Everyone learns differently. Some are visual learners, some are audible learners, some are tactile learners, some are taste and smell learners. Some only learn by on the job training. Wise ones use as many senses as possible that allow them to survive. Read all you can about a subject, ask advice from vociferous friends or acquaintances, listen to mother or father, follow someone that claims they know how to do it, make a decision and do it. When you screw up, you’ll learn the correct way to do it next time. The tuition for taking a class in the school of hard knocks is expensive but the lessons are remembered for a lifetime. You can repeat a class as many times as you want is a major advantage, and you can take as many different classes as you want. The diploma you earn may only exist in your mind, but it will give you satisfaction for a lifetime.
@macdaddy1 I definitely agree that everyone learns differently, or at least that not everyone is the same, but Veritasium says that [VARK] learning styles are a myth:
@macdaddy1@xobzoo Maybe so, but I almost always prefer to read something for myself than have it read to me (maybe because I can read silently a lot faster than someone else reading to me.)
@jouest I learned about infectious diseases that way (granted I knew her as a med student first before I learned about her day job; and yes her residency hours were at night)
See [watch with helpful commentary from expert performer] one, do [hopefully with same or even better previous performer commenting on your efforts] one, teach one [see remarks from previous phases].
Wash, rinse, repeat.
It’s how I learned to suture, assist in surgery, and multiple other procedures that I can now do with sufficient muscle memory to maintain proficiency.
@PhysAssist Though in a very different field (electrical engineering) I can attest to this. Work with good people. Say “Wow.” Then become one of those people others seek for knowledge. Educate them. Honestly makes for a very rewarding career.
No You Tube unless you can stand too much garbage in with the message. I know there are exceptions to this but meh.
You do you.
@Cerridwyn
“…meh. You do you.”
On it.
@Cerridwyn You can skip the first third of almost any YouTube video with no loss of content.
@blaineg @Cerridwyn Same with online recipes. “Jump to the recipe.”
podcasts
@spacemart instructions unclear. Needed help fixing dishwasher, am now doing a full-body ice plunge every morning before juicing.
@jouest @spacemart I read that a few hours ago and had no idea how you got from point A to point B. I just came back again and realized, of course, ‘cause YouTube.
@jouest @pmarin @spacemart AKA the tangent generator.
@blaineg @jouest @spacemart It is more of an arch-tangent.
I had to research terms a bit to make sure, yes:
Sometimes “arch” is used as a prefix to mean extreme or bad
Also did remember there is a legitimate term called arc-tangent in geometry. But means opposite-of.
How’s about “ All of above it,
@mycya4me I came here to say that. I learn in lots of ways combined and last time I checked, I am an adult.
@cbilyak Sometime I wonder if I am one hehehe! I have way too much fun!
Alcohol. The more you drink, the more you think you know on the subject at hand
@OnionSoup but what about that time I toured wine country and forgot how to drive??
@jouest @OnionSoup HAHAHAHA!
Find a mentor
@hchavers there’s one in Ohio
Wander the streets of San Fran.
@phendrick Did that growing up; my mother had a wholesale supply company and she would often take me with her. We had to deliver to stores on Market Street and use the back alleys since they don’t want you walking with boxes in the main front door. Usually from a Volkswagen BTW.
So yes had to step over many homeless and this was about 50 years ago. Back then they were just called winos; certainly the street drug thing was not as it is now. Still can remember the smell of urine which pervaded the alleys. Not fresh, necessarily; just decades of it.
Once I was attacked by an old woman in a military surplus store, of all places. Not physically but she was yelling and it was scary. Fond memories.
Try to teach something to your kids, that you thought you already knew.
@katbyter or to anybody else for that matter. I learn best on the fly. The information sticks best when I use it immediately in an applicative way and/or have to explain it to someone else.
@jitc @katbyter absolutely true. In my work (recently retired) I was often asked to teach customer training classes (8-12 students, about a week). Often only a month or two after I first attended the class myself. No better way to learn stuff.
Make lots of mistakes
@tweezak way ahead of you
Travel.
From teenagers!
They think that they know everything
Explain it (very) incorrectly in a forum.
@blaineg no, because you’re missing the point. in this essay I shall…
@blaineg @jouest
travel outside your county once in a while
The same way your mom told you years ago…
“LOOK IT UP!”.
@Tadlem43 Yep!
@mycya4me @Tadlem43 Or to use proper technical jargon, RTFM.
@pmarin @Tadlem43 Yep I agree! But the users don’t want to do that! But that is the Best for them not too. If they need to learn to use that item for their Job, the Company would provide a class that will teach the Correct use of Item/ Software!
They can always call the level 1 Help Desk. they will ask did you turn it off then on again. If yes, lets put in a ticket & a tech will be with you shortly! Then I or one of my Teammates would come, bringing our Magic wand & pixy dust to fix the issue.
In…out…repeat
You guys are learning new things? I’m struggling just to not forget what I think I already learned in the past!
Everyone learns differently. Some are visual learners, some are audible learners, some are tactile learners, some are taste and smell learners. Some only learn by on the job training. Wise ones use as many senses as possible that allow them to survive. Read all you can about a subject, ask advice from vociferous friends or acquaintances, listen to mother or father, follow someone that claims they know how to do it, make a decision and do it. When you screw up, you’ll learn the correct way to do it next time. The tuition for taking a class in the school of hard knocks is expensive but the lessons are remembered for a lifetime. You can repeat a class as many times as you want is a major advantage, and you can take as many different classes as you want. The diploma you earn may only exist in your mind, but it will give you satisfaction for a lifetime.
@macdaddy1 I definitely agree that everyone learns differently, or at least that not everyone is the same, but Veritasium says that [VARK] learning styles are a myth:
@macdaddy1 @xobzoo There are several decent research studies that document the same thing (eg myth) as well.
@macdaddy1 @xobzoo Maybe so, but I almost always prefer to read something for myself than have it read to me (maybe because I can read silently a lot faster than someone else reading to me.)
@macdaddy1 “Can you taste the science?”
Through a dominatrix
@pakopako this is how I learned calculus. (not really a joke here, she just also tutored calculus)
@jouest @pakopako welcome to the site where we want to ask a lot of questions…. And also maybe… not.
@jouest @pakopako @pmarin
I have to say I’ve learned lots of things on this site.
@jouest @Kyeh @pakopako @pmarin
Of course some of the things people ask questions about on here are, um, different to say the least.
Hmm lets see… how many times fuck has been mentioned… oh wait, are you talking about useful things?
@jouest @Kidsandliz @pakopako @pmarin
Some of them have been useful…
@jouest I learned about infectious diseases that way (granted I knew her as a med student first before I learned about her day job; and yes her residency hours were at night)
Having a lot of those “Hold my beer!” moments, and being smart enough to be the one holding the beer.
All of the above plus the old standard of just diving in and seeing if you can dope it out on the fly.
See [watch with helpful commentary from expert performer] one, do [hopefully with same or even better previous performer commenting on your efforts] one, teach one [see remarks from previous phases].
Wash, rinse, repeat.
It’s how I learned to suture, assist in surgery, and multiple other procedures that I can now do with sufficient muscle memory to maintain proficiency.
@PhysAssist Though in a very different field (electrical engineering) I can attest to this. Work with good people. Say “Wow.” Then become one of those people others seek for knowledge. Educate them. Honestly makes for a very rewarding career.
@pmarin Exactly, and always be ready and willing to teach those who are willing and motivated to learn in turn.