Last time I bought a refurbed AOC monitor from meh, it was dead on arrival, meh said to talk to AOC, AOC told me to talk to meh, I gave up and tossed it, I don’t trust meh with anything over 30 dollars and I don’t trust AOC period.
I have a very old Mitsubishi 65" 1080i rear projection TV. Last November I tried to replace it with a Black Friday deal Panasonic 65" LED. But the input latency was so bad it was a game killer. I had to return the Panasonic.
I’m still using the Mitsu. One day it will die, but in the meanwhile I continue shopping for a bargain on a Vizio D65u-D2 65" 4K LED. Rtings.com rated this TV in 2016, and even today they say “This is the lowest input lag we have measured on a TV. The time it takes for the TV to respond to a controller input is extremely low.”
On the other hand, maybe one day I’ll just grow up and act my age and stop playing video games.
I used a 4K monitor for a while at the end of last year. I don’t game much, but when I do, I’m incredibly competitive. I’ve never been played so poorly in all my life. The input latency was about 110 milliseconds, which may not sound like a lot, but it is. I would constantly overdraft my movements left and right until i was finally able to center on my targets. Most of the time I was either out of ammo or dead by then though. I thought I had suddenly lost my hand-eye coordination. So I switched back to a 2K monitor and everything instantly went back to normal. I’m not sure if these monitors suffer from the same, but given the price point, I’d avoid them for gaming purposes.
@capguncowboy depends on what kind of gaming you’re doing. These aren’t ideal for twitchy competitive games, but the people that care about that know they need to look at the expensive 144hz G-Sync monitors.
These are great if gaming for you means Witcher or Skyrim or Kerbal Space Program.
@jbartus This was my concern too, but it probably uses the same AOC mount as the last AOC monitor I had, which means it’ll fit into the bottom slot on my desk. Just have to remove the bottom part of the stand and lean it against its back post, maybe velcro it down. It’s not great that it lacks vesa though. Most people using vesa stands don’t have a non-vesa slot to put a monitor into.
@stoopkid I have a 28" 4K Samsung works really well for me. It’s almost too big for a desk as it is. I had 2 1080p monitors that I ran beside it for a while, but the main display has more than enough real estate. It is more comfortable to treat the quadrants of the Samsung as 4 1080p monitors than to turn my head and look at side displays.
@michaelgj2002 literally in the product description
"Although they’re the same resolution as 4K TVs, they have better chroma subsampling, shorter input lag, and other things that make them suitable for monitor-ing"
@michaelgj2002 I used a 40" 4k tv (It was like a Vizio D40something or some such) as a monitor and it had a lower latency than quite a few monitors out there. That said, I went to a 32" monitor and now use the 40" as a TV. But that was a size thing. 40" is just too big unless you like sitting a few feet back. Which I don’t like to do because I am in denial about the fact I need glasses.
@michaelgj2002 ya, for me the 32" was the sweet spot. A lot of my 40" went unused and made things like edge-snapping useless for me. I think the left 6" was completely unused. Although it was convenient to be able to see files on my desktop, but like, having to manually adjust window sizes and stuff was more inconvenient. So ya, I just typed a lot more words than I needed to prolly.
The little one says “freesync” but has a 60Hz refresh rate (the AMD site says it syncs from 40Hz to 62Hz).
I’ve got an nVidia card, not an AMD, but if your games are dropping down to 40Hz maybe you should apply this money toward a beefier card or just keep playing on an HD monitor until you can upgrade both.
Maybe it’s just because I’m old, but I’d give up the extra resolution to keep the frame rate up.
You can find an HDMI port unless they’ve bolted it down with a cover. But even if there is an open and accessible HDMI port, most hotel TVs these days run a custom OS that doesn’t give the user access to the input. So you can’t tell the TV to switch to the HDMI input you’ve chosen.
I pulled the trigger on the 40" over the 43" because of the higher contrast ratio and faster response time. I figured there was a good reason why it was over $1000 on Amazon compared to the cheaper price on the 43" (even though the 43" is more expensive here). Still a lot of money for a meh purchase. Am I going to regret this? Probably.
@Lister For photo editing, pulled the trigger on a 43" since IPS seems to have better viewing angles and are supposedly better in brighter rooms than the VA panels. I suspect it has slightly better color reproduction, even if it’s less ideal for watching movies. For watching movies while ‘working’ I still have one of those dirt cheap 21.6" HP displayport-only LED monitors
@donrull I saw that, and that is supposedly for a newer version of the monitor. The one thing I didn’t really know anything about was the difference between ips and va panels, but after reading up real fast I think I am fine with the va display. I also apparently don’t understand refresh rates because 3ms seems really good but people keep saying these aren’t great in that respect.
@Lister 3ms is the time it takes for a pixel to go from color to color-- However, folks are reporting video lag on the order of 50-100mS, which is a function of the electronics that drive it-- It’s like saying a cell phone can produce audio from 100Hz-3kHz, but it’s still subject to a 1 second network lag
@Yoda_Daenerys higher resolution allows you to sit closer because there are more pixels. Lower res is blurry if you get too close. Like those paintings made of dots that you have to step back from to see what it is.
@Yoda_Daenerys No, but you might have to increase text size if you’ll be using a 4k monitor from far away. The text will be super crisp in 4k, but it will appear the same size as non 4k monitors. If you’re not using it for displaying text, then it probably doesn’t matter how far away you sit. The screen will just take up a smaller portion of your field of view the further you scoot back.
The 43" sounds like the perfect solution for my needs at the moment. I have two computers I’d like to run in my room and they could both plug in. Then I have a Roku that I could watch shows on. There isn’t a remote that comes with any of these by chance is there? I would love to be able to switch inputs and adjust volume.
@medz hotels don’t allow casting between devices on their networks as a security concern. What I do is bring a Chromecast and a cheap portable personal router. Works perfectly and allows me to watch Netflix in hotels on their WiFi or wired network.
@Thumperchick ok. They only created account today after their web search for AOC + VESA returned a hit for this site. While the item was relevant to the sale, I doubt they’ll be a returning customer or future contributing community member.
@caffeineguy And make the font really big so that it looks like a 1024x768 monitor (or 768x1024 if it’s on it’s side)? There’s this thing about web browsers/html. If you don’t deliberately use a stupid style they’ll adapt to the end user’s system. The Meh home page ribbon is twice the width of the comment page. There cannot be ANY system on which this is an optimal approach.
My 40" Philips monitor arrived yesterday and it looks amazing. The only blemish is a dead pixel spot a few inches right of center that I first thought was a speck of dust. I am still trying to decide if that is something I want to raise a stink about or if it is acceptable. The monitor even came with a displayport cable, which every review I read said it didn’t include. Now I have two because I ordered one after I read those reviews thinking I would need it.
@sultansofkillin This monitor replaces two 24" monitors I got from woot a few years ago and they both had a dead pixel. I just lived with it and I will probably do the same here. I was kind of expecting it since it is refurbished.
anyone else who got the AOC 28" get the wrong cord? The power supply uses the Round type: and the cord that came with it was the standard PC type: .
Also, The screw for the stand is a clever design. But it was impossible to line it up properly and get the threads started.
@webender I have the same problem. Emailed Meh and they gave me a url: http://eu.aoc.com/en/service-contact? It didn’t even list the United States. I ordered another power adapter from Amazon . . . what the hell. $25 bucks. Amazing that this is a problem.
My 43" arrived… One layer of tape barely holding things closed. Inside, bags with cables/accessories were ripped open.
Could only get it to do 3840x2160@30Hz out of the box, which was absolutely terrible for anything moving.
Finally, in the menu I unlocked/enabled DP 1.2 (was set to DP1.1), which allowed the 3840x2160@60Hz. Video doesn’t tear like crazy now, However, At 60Hz, the right 4" is all scrambled with the included DP cables
43" Monitor w/ DisplayPort:
-On my Desktop, I can set it to 3840x2160@60Hz (4K), but the pixel clock is too high for my VC, and it scrambles the right side of the screen, as shown in the photo.
-If I set it to 30Hz, it’s sharp as can be, beautiful for photo editing, but dragging windows tears badly, and video is simply not watchable.
-Connected to my Lenovo T420 laptop with DP, I can only get to 3840x2160@30Hz, but it seems to work OK.
-Recently, my PC has been scrambling the entire screen, and I’ve noticed the entire picture jitters left/right. After some rebooting, now it’s shifted 40% to the left and wrapped around the other side, so I suspect my inadequate video card is on the fritz…
Obviously, you could use the keys you like if you don’t like mine. You can also trim the sizes down a little if you want some margin. You need xdotool installed from your package manager and that tool will work with any X, so you should be able to adapt this to Gnome or any other DE you like.
@Yoda_Daenerys up your display scaling (I think windows calls it font scaling) to 125 or 150%. Most programs handle that well these days although you may still run across the odd application that gets all wonky with it.
@Yoda_Daenerys If you bought a 40/43" monitor, the font size should be about the same pixels/inch size as a ~20-23" monitor, you can just fit 4x more. My 43" replaced 4x 23" monitors, it’s extremely useful. If you bought the smaller one, then you need to scale fonts.
@Yoda_Daenerys It does depend on the monitor… Your 28" monitor has the same number of pixels in 620mm as my 43" does across 900mm, i.e. my pixels are 50% larger than yours. However, compared to a 23" 1080P monitor, my pixels are about the same size as they used to be, there’s just 4x as many! I’m pretty comfortable sitting 3ft from my monitor…
4K on a 28" seems like a bad idea, except possibly for games, or someone with very good eyes. With your 28", adjusting font scaling to 125% may ease your pain a little bit, but not all apps/web pages play nice with this sort of thing, especially since programmers are lazy with details like that… (you might see fixed size icons/bars/widgets not honoring/correcting for the 125% font)
I bought one of these. It arrived with a couple dead pixels. So I was told by a meh customer service agent to contact AOC. They were nice enough to issue me an RMA, except they’ve now had my screen for almost a month and I have yet to get my replacement. Just this past Friday I finally get a UPS tracking number for my new screen, except UPS has absolutely no information about it what-so-ever. So, will I end up getting the screen back? Who knows! Will I ever buy an AOC anything ever again, from meh.com or otherwise? No. Never.
@uchua I had a similar experience (though my monitor was considerably more messed up than just a few dead pixels). I had to harass them every day for a week before they finally processed it and upgraded the shipment to overnight. Good news is that the replacement unit seems to be a new unit, not a refurb. But yeah, the warranty process is horrible.