Last time I bought a refurbed AOC monitor from meh, it was dead on arrival, meh said to talk to AOC, AOC told me to talk to meh, I gave up and tossed it, I don’t trust meh with anything over 30 dollars and I don’t trust AOC period.
@LordPancreas competitive youthful gamers probably notice when the display introduces any latency or blur to their fast moving images and wrist-snappy inputs.
@InnocuousFarmer I experience that challenge when playing COD on my console.
I have a very old Mitsubishi 65" 1080i rear projection TV. Last November I tried to replace it with a Black Friday deal Panasonic 65" LED. But the input latency was so bad it was a game killer. I had to return the Panasonic.
I’m still using the Mitsu. One day it will die, but in the meanwhile I continue shopping for a bargain on a Vizio D65u-D2 65" 4K LED. Rtings.com rated this TV in 2016, and even today they say “This is the lowest input lag we have measured on a TV. The time it takes for the TV to respond to a controller input is extremely low.”
On the other hand, maybe one day I’ll just grow up and act my age and stop playing video games.
I used a 4K monitor for a while at the end of last year. I don’t game much, but when I do, I’m incredibly competitive. I’ve never been played so poorly in all my life. The input latency was about 110 milliseconds, which may not sound like a lot, but it is. I would constantly overdraft my movements left and right until i was finally able to center on my targets. Most of the time I was either out of ammo or dead by then though. I thought I had suddenly lost my hand-eye coordination. So I switched back to a 2K monitor and everything instantly went back to normal. I’m not sure if these monitors suffer from the same, but given the price point, I’d avoid them for gaming purposes.
@capguncowboy depends on what kind of gaming you’re doing. These aren’t ideal for twitchy competitive games, but the people that care about that know they need to look at the expensive 144hz G-Sync monitors.
These are great if gaming for you means Witcher or Skyrim or Kerbal Space Program.
No VESA, no interest. I was excited and considering returning the $2100 worth of 1440p monitors I bought a couple of weeks ago in favor of the AOC ones but without the ability to mount them…
@jbartus This was my concern too, but it probably uses the same AOC mount as the last AOC monitor I had, which means it’ll fit into the bottom slot on my desk. Just have to remove the bottom part of the stand and lean it against its back post, maybe velcro it down. It’s not great that it lacks vesa though. Most people using vesa stands don’t have a non-vesa slot to put a monitor into.
Really temped to get the 28" but I wanted something more like 30" or 1440… Less pixel density than 28" 4k. I would still get it but reviews aren’t quite great enough even if they are ok.
@stoopkid I have a 28" 4K Samsung works really well for me. It’s almost too big for a desk as it is. I had 2 1080p monitors that I ran beside it for a while, but the main display has more than enough real estate. It is more comfortable to treat the quadrants of the Samsung as 4 1080p monitors than to turn my head and look at side displays.
@michaelgj2002 literally in the product description
"Although they’re the same resolution as 4K TVs, they have better chroma subsampling, shorter input lag, and other things that make them suitable for monitor-ing"
@michaelgj2002 I used a 40" 4k tv (It was like a Vizio D40something or some such) as a monitor and it had a lower latency than quite a few monitors out there. That said, I went to a 32" monitor and now use the 40" as a TV. But that was a size thing. 40" is just too big unless you like sitting a few feet back. Which I don’t like to do because I am in denial about the fact I need glasses.
@michaelgj2002 ya, for me the 32" was the sweet spot. A lot of my 40" went unused and made things like edge-snapping useless for me. I think the left 6" was completely unused. Although it was convenient to be able to see files on my desktop, but like, having to manually adjust window sizes and stuff was more inconvenient. So ya, I just typed a lot more words than I needed to prolly.
The little one says “freesync” but has a 60Hz refresh rate (the AMD site says it syncs from 40Hz to 62Hz).
I’ve got an nVidia card, not an AMD, but if your games are dropping down to 40Hz maybe you should apply this money toward a beefier card or just keep playing on an HD monitor until you can upgrade both.
Maybe it’s just because I’m old, but I’d give up the extra resolution to keep the frame rate up.
As far as I know Freesync only works with AMD cards, but eh screw it, 4K is 4K. Looking forward to seeing all those Minecraft pixels real crisp and high-res-like.
I’ve seen hotels with a patch panel for hooking up your devices to the TV. Although I haven’t seen one with DVI or Displayport, I’m sure it’s only a matter of time.
@lifftchi Yup. I don’t know what sort of crappy hotels @skemmis goes to, but you can almost always find an open HDMI port. Usually VGA too if you want to go old school.
You can find an HDMI port unless they’ve bolted it down with a cover. But even if there is an open and accessible HDMI port, most hotel TVs these days run a custom OS that doesn’t give the user access to the input. So you can’t tell the TV to switch to the HDMI input you’ve chosen.
Is there a problem with the web site? Or with my account? When I click the BUY IT button, the popup is missing a bunch of stuff, and the Yes… button doesn’t work.
Same behavior on today’s deal and yesterday’s.
Same on
Safari 10.1.2 on MacOS 10.12.6
Chrome 60.0.3112.113 (64 bit) on MacOS 10.12.6
Chrome 60.0.3112.101 (64 bit) on Windows 10 version 1511 (OS Build 10586.1045)
I pulled the trigger on the 40" over the 43" because of the higher contrast ratio and faster response time. I figured there was a good reason why it was over $1000 on Amazon compared to the cheaper price on the 43" (even though the 43" is more expensive here). Still a lot of money for a meh purchase. Am I going to regret this? Probably.
@Lister For photo editing, pulled the trigger on a 43" since IPS seems to have better viewing angles and are supposedly better in brighter rooms than the VA panels. I suspect it has slightly better color reproduction, even if it’s less ideal for watching movies. For watching movies while ‘working’ I still have one of those dirt cheap 21.6" HP displayport-only LED monitors
@donrull I saw that, and that is supposedly for a newer version of the monitor. The one thing I didn’t really know anything about was the difference between ips and va panels, but after reading up real fast I think I am fine with the va display. I also apparently don’t understand refresh rates because 3ms seems really good but people keep saying these aren’t great in that respect.
@Lister 3ms is the time it takes for a pixel to go from color to color-- However, folks are reporting video lag on the order of 50-100mS, which is a function of the electronics that drive it-- It’s like saying a cell phone can produce audio from 100Hz-3kHz, but it’s still subject to a 1 second network lag
@Yoda_Daenerys higher resolution allows you to sit closer because there are more pixels. Lower res is blurry if you get too close. Like those paintings made of dots that you have to step back from to see what it is.
@Yoda_Daenerys No, but you might have to increase text size if you’ll be using a 4k monitor from far away. The text will be super crisp in 4k, but it will appear the same size as non 4k monitors. If you’re not using it for displaying text, then it probably doesn’t matter how far away you sit. The screen will just take up a smaller portion of your field of view the further you scoot back.
The 43" sounds like the perfect solution for my needs at the moment. I have two computers I’d like to run in my room and they could both plug in. Then I have a Roku that I could watch shows on. There isn’t a remote that comes with any of these by chance is there? I would love to be able to switch inputs and adjust volume.
@CoryG69 Probably has one of those wireless “cast” screen-mirror features that never works right even when the tv/monitor has the appropriate adapters/dongles/receivers.
@medz hotels don’t allow casting between devices on their networks as a security concern. What I do is bring a Chromecast and a cheap portable personal router. Works perfectly and allows me to watch Netflix in hotels on their WiFi or wired network.
Check the review on Amazon about the screen burn in on the 43inch. They “don’t recommend” keeping anything in place for more than 30 minutes. Hard pass.
@Thumperchick ok. They only created account today after their web search for AOC + VESA returned a hit for this site. While the item was relevant to the sale, I doubt they’ll be a returning customer or future contributing community member.
One thing to note is that Meh, Google, Facebook, etc. seem to have decided that the best format for information is this ribbon down the middle of the page that looks ridiculous on a 4K monitor.
@caffeineguy And make the font really big so that it looks like a 1024x768 monitor (or 768x1024 if it’s on it’s side)? There’s this thing about web browsers/html. If you don’t deliberately use a stupid style they’ll adapt to the end user’s system. The Meh home page ribbon is twice the width of the comment page. There cannot be ANY system on which this is an optimal approach.
All I know is it says my monitor shipped yesterday (Thursday) and it will arrive tomorrow (Saturday), from Texas, with all their problems right now, to Cincinnati. I will believe it when I see it.
My 40" Philips monitor arrived yesterday and it looks amazing. The only blemish is a dead pixel spot a few inches right of center that I first thought was a speck of dust. I am still trying to decide if that is something I want to raise a stink about or if it is acceptable. The monitor even came with a displayport cable, which every review I read said it didn’t include. Now I have two because I ordered one after I read those reviews thinking I would need it.
@sultansofkillin This monitor replaces two 24" monitors I got from woot a few years ago and they both had a dead pixel. I just lived with it and I will probably do the same here. I was kind of expecting it since it is refurbished.
anyone else who got the AOC 28" get the wrong cord? The power supply uses the Round type: and the cord that came with it was the standard PC type: .
Also, The screw for the stand is a clever design. But it was impossible to line it up properly and get the threads started.
@webender stick with the screw, hard, but not impossible.
i managed to get it all the way in by getting it in part way and then wiggling it while turning, while whispering soft nothings… oh nevermind
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@webender I have the same problem. Emailed Meh and they gave me a url: http://eu.aoc.com/en/service-contact? It didn’t even list the United States. I ordered another power adapter from Amazon . . . what the hell. $25 bucks. Amazing that this is a problem.
Has anyone located an arm (monitor, not baby) that will hold up the 43" model? It’s listed at 20 lbs and I see several that are rated for “22 lbs” but 10% is not that much tolerance.
My 43" arrived… One layer of tape barely holding things closed. Inside, bags with cables/accessories were ripped open.
Could only get it to do 3840x2160@30Hz out of the box, which was absolutely terrible for anything moving.
Finally, in the menu I unlocked/enabled DP 1.2 (was set to DP1.1), which allowed the 3840x2160@60Hz. Video doesn’t tear like crazy now, However, At 60Hz, the right 4" is all scrambled with the included DP cables
43" Monitor w/ DisplayPort:
-On my Desktop, I can set it to 3840x2160@60Hz (4K), but the pixel clock is too high for my VC, and it scrambles the right side of the screen, as shown in the photo.
-If I set it to 30Hz, it’s sharp as can be, beautiful for photo editing, but dragging windows tears badly, and video is simply not watchable.
-Connected to my Lenovo T420 laptop with DP, I can only get to 3840x2160@30Hz, but it seems to work OK.
-Recently, my PC has been scrambling the entire screen, and I’ve noticed the entire picture jitters left/right. After some rebooting, now it’s shifted 40% to the left and wrapped around the other side, so I suspect my inadequate video card is on the fritz…
I got the 43"… no issues with burn in at all. If you use KDE on Linux, you might consider the following shortcuts (System Settings | Shortcuts | Custom Shortcuts):
Obviously, you could use the keys you like if you don’t like mine. You can also trim the sizes down a little if you want some margin. You need xdotool installed from your package manager and that tool will work with any X, so you should be able to adapt this to Gnome or any other DE you like.
I love my 40" monitor!! Had to raise the hutch on my desk with wood blocks to make it fit, so now I have this ridiculously huge monitor right in front of me. Thanks MEH! (-:
@Yoda_Daenerys up your display scaling (I think windows calls it font scaling) to 125 or 150%. Most programs handle that well these days although you may still run across the odd application that gets all wonky with it.
@Yoda_Daenerys If you bought a 40/43" monitor, the font size should be about the same pixels/inch size as a ~20-23" monitor, you can just fit 4x more. My 43" replaced 4x 23" monitors, it’s extremely useful. If you bought the smaller one, then you need to scale fonts.
@caffeineguy yea, i got the 28", but i use it on a computer that has other lower res monitors. i’m guessing the font scaling would not be monitor specific.
@Yoda_Daenerys It does depend on the monitor… Your 28" monitor has the same number of pixels in 620mm as my 43" does across 900mm, i.e. my pixels are 50% larger than yours. However, compared to a 23" 1080P monitor, my pixels are about the same size as they used to be, there’s just 4x as many! I’m pretty comfortable sitting 3ft from my monitor…
4K on a 28" seems like a bad idea, except possibly for games, or someone with very good eyes. With your 28", adjusting font scaling to 125% may ease your pain a little bit, but not all apps/web pages play nice with this sort of thing, especially since programmers are lazy with details like that… (you might see fixed size icons/bars/widgets not honoring/correcting for the 125% font)
@Yoda_Daenerys you’re right, it’s a systemwide option. Your other suboptimal choice is to run the new monitor at a lower resolution than it supports, which may or may not look like ass.
@Yoda_Daenerys thanks. Hope you can get the monitor working in a way that useable in your setup.
In unrelated news that last image reminded me of something. There’s a restaurant chain with absolutely underwhelming food with a similar logo. If you see it, don’t bother.
I bought one of these. It arrived with a couple dead pixels. So I was told by a meh customer service agent to contact AOC. They were nice enough to issue me an RMA, except they’ve now had my screen for almost a month and I have yet to get my replacement. Just this past Friday I finally get a UPS tracking number for my new screen, except UPS has absolutely no information about it what-so-ever. So, will I end up getting the screen back? Who knows! Will I ever buy an AOC anything ever again, from meh.com or otherwise? No. Never.
@uchua I had a similar experience (though my monitor was considerably more messed up than just a few dead pixels). I had to harass them every day for a week before they finally processed it and upgraded the shipment to overnight. Good news is that the replacement unit seems to be a new unit, not a refurb. But yeah, the warranty process is horrible.
My 40" Philips monitor just died. It was the best product I ever bought from Meh. This sucks. It lasted just over two years. Now I can’t go back to a regular monitor so I have to find a good 4k 40" replacement.
@lowlypeon@therealjrn I liked the monitor so much I am replacing it with another Philips, but this one I am getting a 4 year replacement plan. Unfortunately, I am not getting the Meh pricing again. Like I said, that monitor was the best thing I ever bought on Meh, and I have bought my fair share of things from this site.
Necropost: After over 5 years of pretty regular use, My 43" Philips is on its way out; The 43" is an IPS panel, and was possibly one of the first IPS panels of its size; There was some chatter on the nets about burn-in and such, but it’s been a pretty decent display for me. Sadly, today, the backlight (strips) seem to be failing and chunks of the screen are going dark. I’m hoping there’s some capacitors in the power supply that might need some love, or maybe I can swap out the LED strips and irk out a few more years…
Specs
AOC 28in
Philips 40in:
Philips 43in:
What’s in the Box?
1x Monitor
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Philips 43in
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Philips 40in
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Price Comparison
Philips 40in: $1895?! (new) at Amazon
AOC 28in: $319.87 (new) at Amazon
Philips 43in: $729.68 (new) at Amazon
Warranty
90 Day Philips
90 Day AOC
Estimated Delivery
Monday, July 13th - Thursday, July 16th
Boom
fall down go boom?
Baby arm!
@sammydog01 Baby arm, Glen AND Irk! It’s like a trifecta of goodness!
Too many choices… AHHHHHHHH!
Very impressive meh buyers… Very impressive…
Not sure I see what you did there, Meh.
The 90s called and they want their DVI and VGA connectors back.
@mike808 It’s weird that VGA ports are still around but they are.
@huja it’s included as the Least Common Denominator.
@jbartus SCSI or bust!
@huja Token ring or bust!
@mike808 They all have DisplayPort, though, so you can ignore the VGA port unless you need to use it with your LeCroy 'scope.
@mehcuda67
Firewire or bust!
@KwadGuy Serial ports! How else am I to hookup the 2400 baud modem?!?
@mehcuda67 SNA and OS/2 or bust
@narfcake it came with an rs-232 cable
Oh man. I would buy the huge option in a second if I had a big enough home office to put it somewhere.
But like sammydog said, got to love the baby arm!
No HDR? No buyer
The options picture has the labels wrong.
@tecnoc22 Thanks! Fixed
@tecnoc22 Thanks for that. I added a coupon to your account for $1 off a Meh order, code: THANKSFORTHAT
Last time I bought a refurbed AOC monitor from meh, it was dead on arrival, meh said to talk to AOC, AOC told me to talk to meh, I gave up and tossed it, I don’t trust meh with anything over 30 dollars and I don’t trust AOC period.
@antsam999
@antsam999 Actually, glad you mentioned that AOC sucks and wouldn’t honor their refurb warranty.
Why cant one game with these monitors?
@LordPancreas You can. Plenty of youtube video reviews of these showing people gaming.
@LordPancreas No reason you couldn’t, but gaming at 4K with a PC is gonna need some serious horsepower.
Console gaming tho… no worries.
@LordPancreas competitive youthful gamers probably notice when the display introduces any latency or blur to their fast moving images and wrist-snappy inputs.
@InnocuousFarmer I experience that challenge when playing COD on my console.
I have a very old Mitsubishi 65" 1080i rear projection TV. Last November I tried to replace it with a Black Friday deal Panasonic 65" LED. But the input latency was so bad it was a game killer. I had to return the Panasonic.
I’m still using the Mitsu. One day it will die, but in the meanwhile I continue shopping for a bargain on a Vizio D65u-D2 65" 4K LED. Rtings.com rated this TV in 2016, and even today they say “This is the lowest input lag we have measured on a TV. The time it takes for the TV to respond to a controller input is extremely low.”
On the other hand, maybe one day I’ll just grow up and act my age and stop playing video games.
@ruouttaurmind Hopefully not, growing up is highly overrated.
@LordPancreas @lukeduff
I used a 4K monitor for a while at the end of last year. I don’t game much, but when I do, I’m incredibly competitive. I’ve never been played so poorly in all my life. The input latency was about 110 milliseconds, which may not sound like a lot, but it is. I would constantly overdraft my movements left and right until i was finally able to center on my targets. Most of the time I was either out of ammo or dead by then though. I thought I had suddenly lost my hand-eye coordination. So I switched back to a 2K monitor and everything instantly went back to normal. I’m not sure if these monitors suffer from the same, but given the price point, I’d avoid them for gaming purposes.
@capguncowboy depends on what kind of gaming you’re doing. These aren’t ideal for twitchy competitive games, but the people that care about that know they need to look at the expensive 144hz G-Sync monitors.
These are great if gaming for you means Witcher or Skyrim or Kerbal Space Program.
Oh man, this is giving me a serious case of the wantsits.
@Thumperchick there’s an ointment for that
@huja @Thumperchick Mehbe a Bio-bidet would help.
@Thumperchick Sometimes you just have to scratch that itch.
@2many2no I blame you for busting Thumperchick’s monthly budget.
@huja Glad I could be of some small assistance.
@2many2no Going out with a meh . . .
@huja My ass is fading into the distance…
@2many2no A goat and a donkey trotting into the sunset.
I feel like I’m being monitored…
No VESA, no interest. I was excited and considering returning the $2100 worth of 1440p monitors I bought a couple of weeks ago in favor of the AOC ones but without the ability to mount them…
@jbartus Just drill four holes in the back and put drywall anchors in there. It’ll be fine.
@mehcuda67 I just use duct tape.
@jbartus My thought exactly. I went straight past all the other specs to check if it was vesa. No? Then no reason to read the rest.
@jbartus This was my concern too, but it probably uses the same AOC mount as the last AOC monitor I had, which means it’ll fit into the bottom slot on my desk. Just have to remove the bottom part of the stand and lean it against its back post, maybe velcro it down. It’s not great that it lacks vesa though. Most people using vesa stands don’t have a non-vesa slot to put a monitor into.
A bit of shameless self-promotion. Better late than never…
https://www.etsy.com/listing/555046515/vesa-75mm-mount-adapter-for-aoc-u2879vf
Really temped to get the 28" but I wanted something more like 30" or 1440… Less pixel density than 28" 4k. I would still get it but reviews aren’t quite great enough even if they are ok.
@stoopkid I have a 28" 4K Samsung works really well for me. It’s almost too big for a desk as it is. I had 2 1080p monitors that I ran beside it for a while, but the main display has more than enough real estate. It is more comfortable to treat the quadrants of the Samsung as 4 1080p monitors than to turn my head and look at side displays.
90 day warranty? Meh…
terrible reviews on all of these
Why not just buy a 4K TV and use it as a monitor?
@michaelgj2002 literally in the product description
"Although they’re the same resolution as 4K TVs, they have better chroma subsampling, shorter input lag, and other things that make them suitable for monitor-ing"
@unksol Meh.
@michaelgj2002 I used a 40" 4k tv (It was like a Vizio D40something or some such) as a monitor and it had a lower latency than quite a few monitors out there. That said, I went to a 32" monitor and now use the 40" as a TV. But that was a size thing. 40" is just too big unless you like sitting a few feet back. Which I don’t like to do because I am in denial about the fact I need glasses.
@westownsend That’s funny. I like being able to see large screens up close. It is easier to read that way.
@michaelgj2002 ya, for me the 32" was the sweet spot. A lot of my 40" went unused and made things like edge-snapping useless for me. I think the left 6" was completely unused. Although it was convenient to be able to see files on my desktop, but like, having to manually adjust window sizes and stuff was more inconvenient. So ya, I just typed a lot more words than I needed to prolly.
The small one is a tn panel. Not worth it. The largest is an ips, which is significantly better technology.
@epr118 I might buy for a 28" IPS monitor. Pass for TN.
@gglockner @epr118
TN panels don’t look as nice but they make better gaming monitors
How many dead pixels are needed to file for warranty?
@kadagan None. Old pixels never die, they just pixel-late.
@mehcuda67 what is dead may never die!
Well I bought one of these behemoths but y’know everything is flooded down here. So good luck getting it to me! Haha on you meh!
@mrallen1 Sorry to hear that. Stay safe!
@michaelgj2002 Thank you! We are ok but we are trying to help people who lost everything now.
The little one says “freesync” but has a 60Hz refresh rate (the AMD site says it syncs from 40Hz to 62Hz).
I’ve got an nVidia card, not an AMD, but if your games are dropping down to 40Hz maybe you should apply this money toward a beefier card or just keep playing on an HD monitor until you can upgrade both.
Maybe it’s just because I’m old, but I’d give up the extra resolution to keep the frame rate up.
As far as I know Freesync only works with AMD cards, but eh screw it, 4K is 4K. Looking forward to seeing all those Minecraft pixels real crisp and high-res-like.
@cptoblivion Gotta love an 8-bit game on a 4K screen.
I’ve seen hotels with a patch panel for hooking up your devices to the TV. Although I haven’t seen one with DVI or Displayport, I’m sure it’s only a matter of time.
@lifftchi Yup. I don’t know what sort of crappy hotels @skemmis goes to, but you can almost always find an open HDMI port. Usually VGA too if you want to go old school.
@medz
You can find an HDMI port unless they’ve bolted it down with a cover. But even if there is an open and accessible HDMI port, most hotel TVs these days run a custom OS that doesn’t give the user access to the input. So you can’t tell the TV to switch to the HDMI input you’ve chosen.
Is there a problem with the web site? Or with my account? When I click the BUY IT button, the popup is missing a bunch of stuff, and the Yes… button doesn’t work.
Same behavior on today’s deal and yesterday’s.
Same on
And those computers are on different networks in different states (CA and WI).
Works on Safari on iOS 10.3.2
@gominosensei Are you using an ad blocker?
@gominosensei sounds like something weird with your account. Did you contact support? Make sure to include a screenshot.
@gominosensei Does it look like this?
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That’s pretty much what it does when the deal is sold out and/or no longer available.
How many bags of candy corn does it come with?
@jmoor783 I think the more approriate question is “How many lumps of candy corn does it come with?”
I didn’t know I could use my Mac Book as a scale. Thanks for the life lesson Meh.
@hchavers
It’s the closest thing to a banana that they had.
@DVDBZN A banana is also a scale? How do you read it? I am really learning new things today!
@hchavers
/image banana for scale
@hchavers
It’s an internet inside joke. A standard banana may be included in an image to give an idea of the scale of an object.
@DVDBZN Please don’t ruin my ignorance with your facts.
Aw shoot. That AOC will almost fit inside my Pelican case.
The 170/160 viewing angle on the AOC makes them junk-- Might be up for a Philips though–
I pulled the trigger on the 40" over the 43" because of the higher contrast ratio and faster response time. I figured there was a good reason why it was over $1000 on Amazon compared to the cheaper price on the 43" (even though the 43" is more expensive here). Still a lot of money for a meh purchase. Am I going to regret this? Probably.
@Lister The 40 is only 8-bit color
@Lister For photo editing, pulled the trigger on a 43" since IPS seems to have better viewing angles and are supposedly better in brighter rooms than the VA panels. I suspect it has slightly better color reproduction, even if it’s less ideal for watching movies. For watching movies while ‘working’ I still have one of those dirt cheap 21.6" HP displayport-only LED monitors
@Lister The Amazon price is clearly inflated by 3rd party sellers. The newer model of this monitor is <$800 on Amazon.
@donrull I saw that, and that is supposedly for a newer version of the monitor. The one thing I didn’t really know anything about was the difference between ips and va panels, but after reading up real fast I think I am fine with the va display. I also apparently don’t understand refresh rates because 3ms seems really good but people keep saying these aren’t great in that respect.
@Lister 3ms is the time it takes for a pixel to go from color to color-- However, folks are reporting video lag on the order of 50-100mS, which is a function of the electronics that drive it-- It’s like saying a cell phone can produce audio from 100Hz-3kHz, but it’s still subject to a 1 second network lag
If one were to get the largest, exactly how close is one expected to sit?
@phaedrusnyc this is for home theater, but it distinguishes between 4k and 1080p.
Since the largest is 43 inches and 4k, maybe about 3 feet?
@medz you have to sit closer to a higher rez monitor, hmmm?
/giphy if you ever betray me, i’ll burn you alive.
– me
@Yoda_Daenerys higher resolution allows you to sit closer because there are more pixels. Lower res is blurry if you get too close. Like those paintings made of dots that you have to step back from to see what it is.
@medz hmmm, makes sense, so if i don’t want to sit close should i buy the crappiest monitor possible?
/youtube the conclusion is not obvious
/giphy the conclusion is not obvious
@Yoda_Daenerys No, but you might have to increase text size if you’ll be using a 4k monitor from far away. The text will be super crisp in 4k, but it will appear the same size as non 4k monitors. If you’re not using it for displaying text, then it probably doesn’t matter how far away you sit. The screen will just take up a smaller portion of your field of view the further you scoot back.
Was this a particular shout out to @f00l?
@cinoclav i saw that too and wanted to wish him a congratulations.
Careful FPS gamers, The latency is around 40 -50 ms
@rshaker2 Whopping 30ms latency on the AOC… yeah, I’ve been looking for a nice, sub-$200 monitor, but this gamer is going to pass
/giphy too much lag
The 43" sounds like the perfect solution for my needs at the moment. I have two computers I’d like to run in my room and they could both plug in. Then I have a Roku that I could watch shows on. There isn’t a remote that comes with any of these by chance is there? I would love to be able to switch inputs and adjust volume.
@skemmehs your laptop doesn’t have an HDMI port to hook up to those Hotel TVs?
@CoryG69 Probably has one of those wireless “cast” screen-mirror features that never works right even when the tv/monitor has the appropriate adapters/dongles/receivers.
@medz hotels don’t allow casting between devices on their networks as a security concern. What I do is bring a Chromecast and a cheap portable personal router. Works perfectly and allows me to watch Netflix in hotels on their WiFi or wired network.
Check the review on Amazon about the screen burn in on the 43inch. They “don’t recommend” keeping anything in place for more than 30 minutes. Hard pass.
Woohoo, shout out to LIGO!
If that AOC had a VESA mount would have probably bought it.
A bit of shameless self-promotion. Better late than never…
https://www.etsy.com/listing/555046515/vesa-75mm-mount-adapter-for-aoc-u2879vf
@thumperchick
/image spammer animated gif
@medz that seems okay - they own that it is self promotion and linked to their shop without hiding anything weird in the link.
@Thumperchick ok. They only created account today after their web search for AOC + VESA returned a hit for this site. While the item was relevant to the sale, I doubt they’ll be a returning customer or future contributing community member.
One thing to note is that Meh, Google, Facebook, etc. seem to have decided that the best format for information is this ribbon down the middle of the page that looks ridiculous on a 4K monitor.
@ergomeh No, you just need to rotate your 4K monitor
@caffeineguy And make the font really big so that it looks like a 1024x768 monitor (or 768x1024 if it’s on it’s side)? There’s this thing about web browsers/html. If you don’t deliberately use a stupid style they’ll adapt to the end user’s system. The Meh home page ribbon is twice the width of the comment page. There cannot be ANY system on which this is an optimal approach.
I primarily use my TV as a monitor for my PC at home. Is there any easy way a home user can measure input lag and chroma subsampling?
TL;DR i hope shipping/packing has improved since the 50 inch tv debacle
/giphy debacle
/image debacle
debacle
/youtube debacle
All I know is it says my monitor shipped yesterday (Thursday) and it will arrive tomorrow (Saturday), from Texas, with all their problems right now, to Cincinnati. I will believe it when I see it.
my box of crumbled plastic and electronics is expected to “drop” tomorrow
/giphy pile of rubble
/youtube barney rubble
My 40" Philips monitor arrived yesterday and it looks amazing. The only blemish is a dead pixel spot a few inches right of center that I first thought was a speck of dust. I am still trying to decide if that is something I want to raise a stink about or if it is acceptable. The monitor even came with a displayport cable, which every review I read said it didn’t include. Now I have two because I ordered one after I read those reviews thinking I would need it.
@Lister My 43" came with some dead pixels too
@sultansofkillin This monitor replaces two 24" monitors I got from woot a few years ago and they both had a dead pixel. I just lived with it and I will probably do the same here. I was kind of expecting it since it is refurbished.
anyone else who got the AOC 28" get the wrong cord? The power supply uses the Round type:
and the cord that came with it was the standard PC type: 
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Also, The screw for the stand is a clever design. But it was impossible to line it up properly and get the threads started.
@webender stick with the screw, hard, but not impossible.
i managed to get it all the way in by getting it in part way and then wiggling it while turning, while whispering soft nothings… oh nevermind
@webender I have the same problem. Emailed Meh and they gave me a url:
http://eu.aoc.com/en/service-contact? It didn’t even list the United States. I ordered another power adapter from Amazon . . . what the hell. $25 bucks. Amazing that this is a problem.
@webender I got the right power cables, but in the two tvs i order, they only gave me one hdmi. and in the other one, two display port.
someone was lazy.
Has anyone located an arm (monitor, not baby) that will hold up the 43" model? It’s listed at 20 lbs and I see several that are rated for “22 lbs” but 10% is not that much tolerance.
@bigjimmyk3
Mountio
Just mounted it to my wall but it’s the 40-inch. This mount holds up to 52", allegedly.
My two 4k 28 inchers just came in and are working fine on day 1. Lets see if they crap out within 90 days. Will update if they do.
Weird though, in the 2 boxes, I only got one HDMI cable, but two displayport cables.
i got one on hdmi and one on display port and theyre working fine though. (so far)
@SeveralPeople my 28" came with both a DP and HDMI and DVI and RGB, impressive…
two stuck pixels but theyre so tiny i only notice them on black screens. i love my monitors.
My 43" arrived… One layer of tape barely holding things closed. Inside, bags with cables/accessories were ripped open.
Could only get it to do 3840x2160@30Hz out of the box, which was absolutely terrible for anything moving.
Finally, in the menu I unlocked/enabled DP 1.2 (was set to DP1.1), which allowed the 3840x2160@60Hz. Video doesn’t tear like crazy now, However, At 60Hz, the right 4" is all scrambled with the included DP cables
@caffeineguy Turns out Flickering is likely related to my old video card… It has DP1.2, but came out before 4K was a thing…
43" Monitor w/ DisplayPort:
-On my Desktop, I can set it to 3840x2160@60Hz (4K), but the pixel clock is too high for my VC, and it scrambles the right side of the screen, as shown in the photo.
-If I set it to 30Hz, it’s sharp as can be, beautiful for photo editing, but dragging windows tears badly, and video is simply not watchable.
-Connected to my Lenovo T420 laptop with DP, I can only get to 3840x2160@30Hz, but it seems to work OK.
-Recently, my PC has been scrambling the entire screen, and I’ve noticed the entire picture jitters left/right. After some rebooting, now it’s shifted 40% to the left and wrapped around the other side, so I suspect my inadequate video card is on the fritz…
I got the 43"… no issues with burn in at all. If you use KDE on Linux, you might consider the following shortcuts (System Settings | Shortcuts | Custom Shortcuts):
Quad1, Control+Alt+1, xdotool getwindowfocus windowsize 1920 1080 windowmove 0 0
Quad2, Control+Alt+2, xdotool getwindowfocus windowsize 1920 1080 windowmove 1920 0
Quad3, Control+Alt+3, xdotool getwindowfocus windowsize 1920 1080 windowmove 0 1080
Quad4, Control+Alt+4, xdotool getwindowfocus windowsize 1920 1080 windowmove 1920 1080
Quad5, Control+Alt+5, xdotool getwindowfocus windowsize 1920 1080 windowmove 960 540
Half1, Control+Alt+6, xdotool getwindowfocus windowsize 1920 2160 windowmove 0 0
Half2, Control+Alt+7, xdotool getwindowfocus windowsize 1920 2160 windowmove 1920 0
Half3, Control+Alt+8, xdotool getwindowfocus windowsize 3840 1080 windowmove 0 0
Half4, Control+Alt+9, xdotool getwindowfocus windowsize 3840 1080 windowmove 0 1080
Full, Control+Alt+0, xdotool getwindowfocus windowsize 3840 2160 windowmove 0 0
Obviously, you could use the keys you like if you don’t like mine. You can also trim the sizes down a little if you want some margin. You need xdotool installed from your package manager and that tool will work with any X, so you should be able to adapt this to Gnome or any other DE you like.
I love my 40" monitor!! Had to raise the hutch on my desk with wood blocks to make it fit, so now I have this ridiculously huge monitor right in front of me. Thanks MEH! (-:
@thinkbig
hey all you smart people out there, what do i do with all these pixels? if i put my computer desktop on there the font is so tiny…
@Yoda_Daenerys up your display scaling (I think windows calls it font scaling) to 125 or 150%. Most programs handle that well these days although you may still run across the odd application that gets all wonky with it.
@Yoda_Daenerys If you bought a 40/43" monitor, the font size should be about the same pixels/inch size as a ~20-23" monitor, you can just fit 4x more. My 43" replaced 4x 23" monitors, it’s extremely useful. If you bought the smaller one, then you need to scale fonts.
@caffeineguy yea, i got the 28", but i use it on a computer that has other lower res monitors. i’m guessing the font scaling would not be monitor specific.
@Yoda_Daenerys It does depend on the monitor… Your 28" monitor has the same number of pixels in 620mm as my 43" does across 900mm, i.e. my pixels are 50% larger than yours. However, compared to a 23" 1080P monitor, my pixels are about the same size as they used to be, there’s just 4x as many! I’m pretty comfortable sitting 3ft from my monitor…
4K on a 28" seems like a bad idea, except possibly for games, or someone with very good eyes. With your 28", adjusting font scaling to 125% may ease your pain a little bit, but not all apps/web pages play nice with this sort of thing, especially since programmers are lazy with details like that… (you might see fixed size icons/bars/widgets not honoring/correcting for the 125% font)
@Yoda_Daenerys you’re right, it’s a systemwide option. Your other suboptimal choice is to run the new monitor at a lower resolution than it supports, which may or may not look like ass.
@djslack @caffeineguy well said
/youtube well said
/giphy well, sad?
/image well said
/8ball well said?
Signs point to yes
@Yoda_Daenerys thanks. Hope you can get the monitor working in a way that useable in your setup.
In unrelated news that last image reminded me of something. There’s a restaurant chain with absolutely underwhelming food with a similar logo. If you see it, don’t bother.
/image hey man let’s eat
@djslack must have exclamation
I bought one of these. It arrived with a couple dead pixels. So I was told by a meh customer service agent to contact AOC. They were nice enough to issue me an RMA, except they’ve now had my screen for almost a month and I have yet to get my replacement. Just this past Friday I finally get a UPS tracking number for my new screen, except UPS has absolutely no information about it what-so-ever. So, will I end up getting the screen back? Who knows! Will I ever buy an AOC anything ever again, from meh.com or otherwise? No. Never.
@uchua I had a similar experience (though my monitor was considerably more messed up than just a few dead pixels). I had to harass them every day for a week before they finally processed it and upgraded the shipment to overnight. Good news is that the replacement unit seems to be a new unit, not a refurb. But yeah, the warranty process is horrible.
My 40" Philips monitor just died. It was the best product I ever bought from Meh. This sucks. It lasted just over two years. Now I can’t go back to a regular monitor so I have to find a good 4k 40" replacement.
@Lister Two years seems like a pretty short lifespan.
@Lister @lowlypeon 2 Years is 6 TIMES the warranty length! That was a good run!
@lowlypeon @therealjrn I liked the monitor so much I am replacing it with another Philips, but this one I am getting a 4 year replacement plan. Unfortunately, I am not getting the Meh pricing again. Like I said, that monitor was the best thing I ever bought on Meh, and I have bought my fair share of things from this site.
Necropost: After over 5 years of pretty regular use, My 43" Philips is on its way out; The 43" is an IPS panel, and was possibly one of the first IPS panels of its size; There was some chatter on the nets about burn-in and such, but it’s been a pretty decent display for me. Sadly, today, the backlight (strips) seem to be failing and chunks of the screen are going dark. I’m hoping there’s some capacitors in the power supply that might need some love, or maybe I can swap out the LED strips and irk out a few more years…