fall down go boom?

@sammydog01 Baby arm, Glen AND Irk! It’s like a trifecta of goodness!

@mike808 It’s weird that VGA ports are still around but they are.

@huja it’s included as the Least Common Denominator.

@jbartus SCSI or bust!

@huja Token ring or bust!

@mike808 They all have DisplayPort, though, so you can ignore the VGA port unless you need to use it with your LeCroy 'scope.

@mehcuda67

Firewire or bust!

@KwadGuy Serial ports! How else am I to hookup the 2400 baud modem?!?

@mehcuda67 SNA and OS/2 or bust

@narfcake it came with an rs-232 cable

@tecnoc22 Thanks! Fixed

@tecnoc22 Thanks for that. I added a coupon to your account for $1 off a Meh order, code: THANKSFORTHAT

@antsam999

@antsam999 Actually, glad you mentioned that AOC sucks and wouldn’t honor their refurb warranty.

@LordPancreas You can. Plenty of youtube video reviews of these showing people gaming.

@LordPancreas No reason you couldn’t, but gaming at 4K with a PC is gonna need some serious horsepower.

Console gaming tho… no worries.

@LordPancreas competitive youthful gamers probably notice when the display introduces any latency or blur to their fast moving images and wrist-snappy inputs.

@InnocuousFarmer I experience that challenge when playing COD on my console.

I have a very old Mitsubishi 65" 1080i rear projection TV. Last November I tried to replace it with a Black Friday deal Panasonic 65" LED. But the input latency was so bad it was a game killer. I had to return the Panasonic.

I’m still using the Mitsu. One day it will die, but in the meanwhile I continue shopping for a bargain on a Vizio D65u-D2 65" 4K LED. Rtings.com rated this TV in 2016, and even today they say “This is the lowest input lag we have measured on a TV. The time it takes for the TV to respond to a controller input is extremely low.”

On the other hand, maybe one day I’ll just grow up and act my age and stop playing video games.

@ruouttaurmind Hopefully not, growing up is highly overrated.

@LordPancreas @lukeduff

I used a 4K monitor for a while at the end of last year. I don’t game much, but when I do, I’m incredibly competitive. I’ve never been played so poorly in all my life. The input latency was about 110 milliseconds, which may not sound like a lot, but it is. I would constantly overdraft my movements left and right until i was finally able to center on my targets. Most of the time I was either out of ammo or dead by then though. I thought I had suddenly lost my hand-eye coordination. So I switched back to a 2K monitor and everything instantly went back to normal. I’m not sure if these monitors suffer from the same, but given the price point, I’d avoid them for gaming purposes.

@capguncowboy depends on what kind of gaming you’re doing. These aren’t ideal for twitchy competitive games, but the people that care about that know they need to look at the expensive 144hz G-Sync monitors.

These are great if gaming for you means Witcher or Skyrim or Kerbal Space Program.

@Thumperchick there’s an ointment for that

@huja @Thumperchick Mehbe a Bio-bidet would help.

@Thumperchick Sometimes you just have to scratch that itch.

@2many2no I blame you for busting Thumperchick’s monthly budget.

@huja Glad I could be of some small assistance.

@2many2no Going out with a meh . . .

@huja My ass is fading into the distance…

@2many2no A goat and a donkey trotting into the sunset.

@jbartus Just drill four holes in the back and put drywall anchors in there. It’ll be fine.

@mehcuda67 I just use duct tape.

@jbartus My thought exactly. I went straight past all the other specs to check if it was vesa. No? Then no reason to read the rest.

@jbartus This was my concern too, but it probably uses the same AOC mount as the last AOC monitor I had, which means it’ll fit into the bottom slot on my desk. Just have to remove the bottom part of the stand and lean it against its back post, maybe velcro it down. It’s not great that it lacks vesa though. Most people using vesa stands don’t have a non-vesa slot to put a monitor into.

A bit of shameless self-promotion. Better late than never…

https://www.etsy.com/listing/555046515/vesa-75mm-mount-adapter-for-aoc-u2879vf

@stoopkid I have a 28" 4K Samsung works really well for me. It’s almost too big for a desk as it is. I had 2 1080p monitors that I ran beside it for a while, but the main display has more than enough real estate. It is more comfortable to treat the quadrants of the Samsung as 4 1080p monitors than to turn my head and look at side displays.

@michaelgj2002 literally in the product description
"Although they’re the same resolution as 4K TVs, they have better chroma subsampling, shorter input lag, and other things that make them suitable for monitor-ing"

@unksol Meh.

@michaelgj2002 I used a 40" 4k tv (It was like a Vizio D40something or some such) as a monitor and it had a lower latency than quite a few monitors out there. That said, I went to a 32" monitor and now use the 40" as a TV. But that was a size thing. 40" is just too big unless you like sitting a few feet back. Which I don’t like to do because I am in denial about the fact I need glasses.

@westownsend That’s funny. I like being able to see large screens up close. It is easier to read that way.

@michaelgj2002 ya, for me the 32" was the sweet spot. A lot of my 40" went unused and made things like edge-snapping useless for me. I think the left 6" was completely unused. Although it was convenient to be able to see files on my desktop, but like, having to manually adjust window sizes and stuff was more inconvenient. So ya, I just typed a lot more words than I needed to prolly.

@epr118 I might buy for a 28" IPS monitor. Pass for TN.

@gglockner @epr118

TN panels don’t look as nice but they make better gaming monitors

@kadagan None. Old pixels never die, they just pixel-late.

@mehcuda67 what is dead may never die!

@mrallen1 Sorry to hear that. Stay safe!

@michaelgj2002 Thank you! We are ok but we are trying to help people who lost everything now.

@cptoblivion Gotta love an 8-bit game on a 4K screen.

@lifftchi Yup. I don’t know what sort of crappy hotels @skemmis goes to, but you can almost always find an open HDMI port. Usually VGA too if you want to go old school.

@medz

You can find an HDMI port unless they’ve bolted it down with a cover. But even if there is an open and accessible HDMI port, most hotel TVs these days run a custom OS that doesn’t give the user access to the input. So you can’t tell the TV to switch to the HDMI input you’ve chosen.

And those computers are on different networks in different states (CA and WI).

Works on Safari on iOS 10.3.2

@gominosensei Are you using an ad blocker?

@gominosensei sounds like something weird with your account. Did you contact support? Make sure to include a screenshot.

@gominosensei Does it look like this?
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That’s pretty much what it does when the deal is sold out and/or no longer available.

@jmoor783 I think the more approriate question is “How many lumps of candy corn does it come with?”

@hchavers
It’s the closest thing to a banana that they had.

@DVDBZN A banana is also a scale? How do you read it? I am really learning new things today!

@hchavers
/image banana for scale

@hchavers
It’s an internet inside joke. A standard banana may be included in an image to give an idea of the scale of an object.

@DVDBZN Please don’t ruin my ignorance with your facts.

@Lister The 40 is only 8-bit color

@Lister For photo editing, pulled the trigger on a 43" since IPS seems to have better viewing angles and are supposedly better in brighter rooms than the VA panels. I suspect it has slightly better color reproduction, even if it’s less ideal for watching movies. For watching movies while ‘working’ I still have one of those dirt cheap 21.6" HP displayport-only LED monitors

@Lister The Amazon price is clearly inflated by 3rd party sellers. The newer model of this monitor is <$800 on Amazon.

@donrull I saw that, and that is supposedly for a newer version of the monitor. The one thing I didn’t really know anything about was the difference between ips and va panels, but after reading up real fast I think I am fine with the va display. I also apparently don’t understand refresh rates because 3ms seems really good but people keep saying these aren’t great in that respect.

@Lister 3ms is the time it takes for a pixel to go from color to color-- However, folks are reporting video lag on the order of 50-100mS, which is a function of the electronics that drive it-- It’s like saying a cell phone can produce audio from 100Hz-3kHz, but it’s still subject to a 1 second network lag

@phaedrusnyc this is for home theater, but it distinguishes between 4k and 1080p.

Since the largest is 43 inches and 4k, maybe about 3 feet?

@medz you have to sit closer to a higher rez monitor, hmmm?

/giphy if you ever betray me, i’ll burn you alive.

– me

@Yoda_Daenerys higher resolution allows you to sit closer because there are more pixels. Lower res is blurry if you get too close. Like those paintings made of dots that you have to step back from to see what it is.

@medz hmmm, makes sense, so if i don’t want to sit close should i buy the crappiest monitor possible?

/youtube the conclusion is not obvious

/giphy the conclusion is not obvious

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@Yoda_Daenerys No, but you might have to increase text size if you’ll be using a 4k monitor from far away. The text will be super crisp in 4k, but it will appear the same size as non 4k monitors. If you’re not using it for displaying text, then it probably doesn’t matter how far away you sit. The screen will just take up a smaller portion of your field of view the further you scoot back.

@cinoclav i saw that too and wanted to wish him a congratulations.

@rshaker2 Whopping 30ms latency on the AOC… yeah, I’ve been looking for a nice, sub-$200 monitor, but this gamer is going to pass
/giphy too much lag

@CoryG69 Probably has one of those wireless “cast” screen-mirror features that never works right even when the tv/monitor has the appropriate adapters/dongles/receivers.

@medz hotels don’t allow casting between devices on their networks as a security concern. What I do is bring a Chromecast and a cheap portable personal router. Works perfectly and allows me to watch Netflix in hotels on their WiFi or wired network.

A bit of shameless self-promotion. Better late than never…

https://www.etsy.com/listing/555046515/vesa-75mm-mount-adapter-for-aoc-u2879vf

@thumperchick
/image spammer animated gif

@medz that seems okay - they own that it is self promotion and linked to their shop without hiding anything weird in the link.

@Thumperchick ok. They only created account today after their web search for AOC + VESA returned a hit for this site. While the item was relevant to the sale, I doubt they’ll be a returning customer or future contributing community member.

@ergomeh No, you just need to rotate your 4K monitor

@caffeineguy And make the font really big so that it looks like a 1024x768 monitor (or 768x1024 if it’s on it’s side)? There’s this thing about web browsers/html. If you don’t deliberately use a stupid style they’ll adapt to the end user’s system. The Meh home page ribbon is twice the width of the comment page. There cannot be ANY system on which this is an optimal approach.

@Lister My 43" came with some dead pixels too

@sultansofkillin This monitor replaces two 24" monitors I got from woot a few years ago and they both had a dead pixel. I just lived with it and I will probably do the same here. I was kind of expecting it since it is refurbished.

@webender stick with the screw, hard, but not impossible.

i managed to get it all the way in by getting it in part way and then wiggling it while turning, while whispering soft nothings… oh nevermind

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@webender I have the same problem. Emailed Meh and they gave me a url:
http://eu.aoc.com/en/service-contact? It didn’t even list the United States. I ordered another power adapter from Amazon . . . what the hell. $25 bucks. Amazing that this is a problem.

@webender I got the right power cables, but in the two tvs i order, they only gave me one hdmi. and in the other one, two display port.

someone was lazy.

@bigjimmyk3

Mountio

Just mounted it to my wall but it’s the 40-inch. This mount holds up to 52", allegedly.

@SeveralPeople my 28" came with both a DP and HDMI and DVI and RGB, impressive…

two stuck pixels but theyre so tiny i only notice them on black screens. i love my monitors.

@caffeineguy Turns out Flickering is likely related to my old video card… It has DP1.2, but came out before 4K was a thing…

43" Monitor w/ DisplayPort:
-On my Desktop, I can set it to 3840x2160@60Hz (4K), but the pixel clock is too high for my VC, and it scrambles the right side of the screen, as shown in the photo.
-If I set it to 30Hz, it’s sharp as can be, beautiful for photo editing, but dragging windows tears badly, and video is simply not watchable.
-Connected to my Lenovo T420 laptop with DP, I can only get to 3840x2160@30Hz, but it seems to work OK.
-Recently, my PC has been scrambling the entire screen, and I’ve noticed the entire picture jitters left/right. After some rebooting, now it’s shifted 40% to the left and wrapped around the other side, so I suspect my inadequate video card is on the fritz…

@thinkbig

@Yoda_Daenerys up your display scaling (I think windows calls it font scaling) to 125 or 150%. Most programs handle that well these days although you may still run across the odd application that gets all wonky with it.

@Yoda_Daenerys If you bought a 40/43" monitor, the font size should be about the same pixels/inch size as a ~20-23" monitor, you can just fit 4x more. My 43" replaced 4x 23" monitors, it’s extremely useful. If you bought the smaller one, then you need to scale fonts.

@caffeineguy yea, i got the 28", but i use it on a computer that has other lower res monitors. i’m guessing the font scaling would not be monitor specific.

@Yoda_Daenerys It does depend on the monitor… Your 28" monitor has the same number of pixels in 620mm as my 43" does across 900mm, i.e. my pixels are 50% larger than yours. However, compared to a 23" 1080P monitor, my pixels are about the same size as they used to be, there’s just 4x as many! I’m pretty comfortable sitting 3ft from my monitor…
4K on a 28" seems like a bad idea, except possibly for games, or someone with very good eyes. With your 28", adjusting font scaling to 125% may ease your pain a little bit, but not all apps/web pages play nice with this sort of thing, especially since programmers are lazy with details like that… (you might see fixed size icons/bars/widgets not honoring/correcting for the 125% font)

@Yoda_Daenerys you’re right, it’s a systemwide option. Your other suboptimal choice is to run the new monitor at a lower resolution than it supports, which may or may not look like ass.

@djslack @caffeineguy well said

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/youtube well said

/giphy well, sad?

/image well said

/8ball well said?
Signs point to yes

@Yoda_Daenerys thanks. Hope you can get the monitor working in a way that useable in your setup.

In unrelated news that last image reminded me of something. There’s a restaurant chain with absolutely underwhelming food with a similar logo. If you see it, don’t bother.

/image hey man let’s eat

@djslack must have exclamation

@uchua I had a similar experience (though my monitor was considerably more messed up than just a few dead pixels). I had to harass them every day for a week before they finally processed it and upgraded the shipment to overnight. Good news is that the replacement unit seems to be a new unit, not a refurb. But yeah, the warranty process is horrible.

@Lister Two years seems like a pretty short lifespan.

@Lister @lowlypeon 2 Years is 6 TIMES the warranty length! That was a good run!

@lowlypeon @therealjrn I liked the monitor so much I am replacing it with another Philips, but this one I am getting a 4 year replacement plan. Unfortunately, I am not getting the Meh pricing again. Like I said, that monitor was the best thing I ever bought on Meh, and I have bought my fair share of things from this site.