Any Star Trek or Klingon fans?

@sammydog01 That is why I thought it was worth mentioning. The thoughtful design seemed like they actually cared what they were making.

@joelmw I need to see Lower Decks and Picard and Discovery at some point.

@Targaryen YES YOU DO!

@joelmw @Targaryen yeah I agree. Picard and lower decks are both great!

@chienfou … Especially those hiding between the moons of Uranus.

@RiotDemon I’ll have to look around and see what other fandom gift ideas there are. Maybe I can start a “what to get your fandom fan this Christmas” type post.

@earlyre And there are four different corks for collectors. So you’ll need to buy at least four and hope you don’t get a duplicate.

Or keep buying until you get all four!

@mike808 I think I’ll Stick to HU-Mon Sangria for now.

@earlyre @mike808

@unksol Why Bones, you know this is illegal.

@blaineg nudge nudge wink wink

And it became legal at least for a while. Seems like time for a repeal

@unksol The Saurian Brandy and Aldebaran whiskey are much better than the Romulan Ale.

You’ve just got to pace yourself…

@ELJAY maybe not tonight. Lol

@unksol Maybe next year? Email them and make the request.

@phendrick many people strongly disliked DS9. It was quite a different structure for some people I guess. but I did really like it.

TOS series was just… cringe worthy… And yet managed to watch it twice. And gets a little allowance for age. The first season of TNG was also really really rough. But got better.

I like voyager and janeway despite some meh episodes. Did not hate enterprise

Probably has something to do with starting on TNG as a kid when dad let us watch and all those series going at once or one after the other

Discovery was fine to binge watch. I’ll take more trek. Although they were really pushing it.

@phendrick @unksol
The Lower Decks is entertaining (it is animated, so if that’s not your thing, pass). The Short Treks are also creative. A few are fun throwbacks.

@mike808 @phendrick I tried to watch lower decks when I tried all access and watched discovery/picard. It and ncis and a bunch of stuff just would not play. I was not impressed with CBS. Still want to see them. Maybe I’ll try again later.

@phendrick @unksol Discovery’s Captain Pike is my now my favorite Starfleet captain, bumping Kirk into second place. I’m really looking forward to Strange New Worlds.

@blaineg @phendrick I did really like him. Really I liked all of the characters and don’t really have anything negative to say about discovery in general… Plot holes blah blah you can make it work in your head. Especially if you ever read any of the metric ton of books lol. All sorts of strange stuff in trek.

@unksol When it came out, TOS was probably most people’s first exposure to all the new ideas of space exploration and the issues it would bring up as far as dealing with alien civilizations as well as alien (as in “foreign”) cultural values (not too distant from Crocodile Dundee in NYC), let alone all the possible military ramifications. I had already been a SciFi fan, but that was still a minority even among my college crowd. It was ground-breaking in making the masses of people think about those issues. (Relate “Forbidden Planet” to its time period.)

More individual episodes from TOS have stuck in my head than probably from all the other series together. “The trouble with tribbles”, “the city on the edge of forever”, “the return of the Archons” (had to look up the title of that one), “what are little girls made of?” with the delectable Sherry Jackson (“Make room for daddy” daughter! and Ted Cassidy (Lurch, the butler! – he once was an on-air personality for a Dallas TV station) are just a few examples.

TOS introduced us to the ideas of warp drive, Vulcan mind melds, replicators, phasers, communicators (cell phones, anyone?), transporters (doesn’t everyone in the world know the phrase “Beam me up, Scotty”?), force field shields, etc.

To my recollection, there was more good-natured humor in TOS than all the other Trek series. (Picard’s was usually too dry, IMO. Thought Data did bring in a lot of irony; same for Odo.) Shatner’s over-the-top acting always contributed to that.

TOS was socially conscious (episodes named above included): the haves/have-nots with technology; not just inter-racial relations, but also inter-species; conflicts with various dictators (some human) vs freedom, … Notable was Kirk’s kiss with Uhura (Nichelle Nichols), “cited as the first example of an interracial kiss on scripted U.S. television” – Wikipedia.

Again, all ground-breaking for television, considering its time. Though I’m sure that TOS didn’t look very sophisticated to anyone first watching it after they had seen any of the later series.

Not bad for a “space western”.

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I want to mention in passing that overall, my favorite Star Trek technology was probably the holodeck, especially as it was developed for many of the DS9 episodes.

@phendrick I get all that and I appreciate it for it and what it gave us. And it definitely is iconic and should be.

Probably has to do with age/timeline. Since I watched TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT as a kid/highschooler before TOS was on netflix. Although I caught the TOS movies here and there. pretty sure I saw all three before the original series since they were out in the 80s and maybe on tv at some point in the 90s?

Jumping back to the originals there were some… Meh. Choices. But 60s. And I’m not going to lie I’m a picard man. Very different styles.

Just for the record. THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!

@phendrick if you want some extra Gene Roddenberry

She’s pretty badass. Yes she. The ship and the AI.
https://andromeda.fandom.com/wiki/Andromeda_Ascendant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_(TV_series)

@unksol Thanks for the tip. I take it that’s a recommendation. Real busy this month, but I’ll keep it in my back pocket for the holidays. Not sure how I missed the fact that this existed. And I’ve been a Kevin Sorbo fan since his Hercules days, and I know I’ve seen him on interviews since then.

Also, I see it is available for Free on Amazon, with ads, but hey – I need pee breaks and snack breaks anyway, and it looks like Ammy does a good job of showing when the ads are coming.

@phendrick it’s very very different from star trek and 20 years old… And based on roddenberry’s notes a decade after he died I guess. I enjoyed it. Back then and rewatched it at some point Although idk where.

Always been a pain to track down to stream maybe cause it was done in canada. And it’s a little niche. Managed 5 seasons though

@phendrick think it was on roku… Sounds like it still is but might have ads now.
https://therokuchannel.roku.com/details/87618be4f68f58caaa45ca2d61246b32/andromeda

@unksol I am just not a Roku and Rolaid person. I pay for cable, but not extras. Amazon gets enough of my money for Prime, I might as well get some more out of it. I can live with ads, especially now that the election ads will be quiet for awhile (except for certain companies that prefer dumb ones [cough - Geico - cough - Progressive - cough, cough]).

@phendrick someone just had a roku tv here for a while and roku channels are free so. Was trying to remember where/when/why I rewatched it. I think they had several older sci-fi series on there. Idk that they work on my fire tv I had forgot about it. Might have to try

@phendrick @unksol
Seconded for Andromeda. More tie-in background - Andromeda (“Rommie”), the ship’s AI avatar was played by Lexa Doig, and is married to Michael Shanks. Michael Shanks played Dr. Daniel Jackson of the Stargate TV series fame and has a couple of guest episodes. He plays a love interest of Rommie as another ship’s avatar. Probably wasn’t much of a stretch acting in the love scenes between the two, LOL. Lexa also played a role in Stargate Universe for more crossover fun.

Season 5 kinda went off the rails, due to lots of factors at the end of Season 4 and a last minute decision to have a Season 5.

I liked the introductory quotes of each episode, and a whole species based on the idea of Nietzsche-as-a-prophet. The characters were well-developed and likeable. And Sorbo was just as hammy a captain as Kirk, in a good way.

Kevin Sorbo was in what I think is the funniest episode ever of Two and a Half Men, “Always a Bridesmaid, Never A Burro” (Season 3, Episode 20).
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0793280

@mike808 @phendrick yeah… Season 5 got really really strange lol. But whatever. The main cast stuck around the whole series. Lexa was bad ass. It’s good.

@PocketBrain and to think…he was married to B’Elanna Torres… well the actors were married…and divorced… 8 years before either was on Star Trek…

and Holy Crap… Roxanne Dawson is only 3 years younger than Kate Mulgrew…
“Although B’Elanna’s character was twenty-five years old when the series began, Dawson was actually thirty-six.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B’Elanna_Torres

not that there’s anything wrong…just surprised me…

Damar is not amused.

@PocketBrain Request it, I bet if the Bloodwine does well they’d consider some others maybe.