And a certain amount of hilarity ensued, as the explanations of how decibels really work poked some holes in car horn loudness claims even before the testing started.
Knowing that the current car stereos at the top of the SPL food chain are around 170 db and seeing the damage they can do I would love to have a 600 db horn for a select few asshole drivers.
@yakkoTDI The problem there would be all of the collateral damage.
Horns serve an important function, but when I lived in a big city I hated them. A driver honks at another driver who is sealed in a sound-deadening cabin. Meanwhile, I’m on the sidewalk, six feet from the honking car getting an unprotected earful.
@Limewater@yakkoTDI At 600 db (as if they could “achieve” it), you would never know that the horn had been actuated. Neither would anyone else on the vaporized planet.
@werehatrack@yakkoTDI Sure. That was kind of my point. You can’t selectively target the asshole. Even normal horns have collateral damage when used near pedestrians.
@yakkoTDI Does that mean a container meant for holding my favorite beverage, or my favorite container for holding beverages in general? Because those are two different containers, and it’s really best to hammer this out before I am dead.
@GetClosure@narfcake And the answer in the case of Helicoils and their clones is “Oh hell yes!” All of the threaded inserts provide a stronger hole than aluminum or magnesium, and most are superior to a threaded plain hole in cast itron. Some European manufacturing installs them in critical locations in aluminum parts during the initial build because the threads are otherwise almost certain to pull out when the bolts are torqued during repairs (Ima look at you, Daimler, and think very bad thoughts about your early aluminum engine blocks). Over the years that I turned wrenches for a living, I probably installed several thousand Helicoil, Timesert, and other thread repair inserts in a variety of mostly light-alloy holes. The only place where I ever encountered repeated failures would be in the spark plug holes of VW air-cooled heads - and the problem there was that the heads were usually cracked, but still in operation because an air-cooled head can do that for a while. More often, such helicoil failures were because some hamfisted jerk had cross-threaded the plug, and peeled the coil out of the head. It took true dedication to Doing It Really Wrong to achieve this. In that case, I’d rethread the hole to 18x1.5, run in an adapter bushing, and hope to hell that the next tooljockey didn’t manage to screw that up. (It was inevitable, alas.)
… and think very bad thoughts about your early aluminum engine blocks.
@GetClosure@werehatrack No need to single out European companies; the US companies are just as adept at buggering it. Northstar head bolts and 5.4 spark plugs, anyone?
@GetClosure@narfcake By the time those had arrived on the scene, I had scaled back to just working on vehicles in my own fleet and a few friends’. But I had figured that the overall trend towards the use of more and more aluminum in engines was the reason why both real and imitation helicoil kits had been showing up in ever greater numbers in the parts stores.
@detailer
For more fun, text your next-door neighbor about an hour after he’s left for work: “Hey, could you guys please fuck a little quieter? I’m trying to sleep.”
But what if I WANT to shatter the planet?
@blaineg Then you go with the 2,500 db ones from Wish(ful thinking).
Knowing that the current car stereos at the top of the SPL food chain are around 170 db and seeing the damage they can do I would love to have a 600 db horn for a select few asshole drivers.
Also might help compress more into my trunk.
@yakkoTDI The problem there would be all of the collateral damage.
Horns serve an important function, but when I lived in a big city I hated them. A driver honks at another driver who is sealed in a sound-deadening cabin. Meanwhile, I’m on the sidewalk, six feet from the honking car getting an unprotected earful.
@Limewater @yakkoTDI At 600 db (as if they could “achieve” it), you would never know that the horn had been actuated. Neither would anyone else on the vaporized planet.
@werehatrack @yakkoTDI Sure. That was kind of my point. You can’t selectively target the asshole. Even normal horns have collateral damage when used near pedestrians.
@Limewater If it makes you feel any better we will have a massive drunken celebration at your funeral.
As a bonus your family will not need to buy a coffin so we will put you in your favourite beverage container.
@yakkoTDI Does that mean a container meant for holding my favorite beverage, or my favorite container for holding beverages in general? Because those are two different containers, and it’s really best to hammer this out before I am dead.
@Limewater Why not both?
@yakkoTDI That would be a solution. I guess at that point I could also be a solution, if someone had a lot of an appropriate solvent.
Wait for the drop, bro!
@mike808 “Instant hearing loss” is one description.
That channel and presenter are great! Came up in my recommends this weekend too!
@GetClosure Yeah, I’ve been watching the Torque Test Channel for a while now. Like Project Farm, “no freebies”.
The “for science” tests are my favorites.
@GetClosure @narfcake And the answer in the case of Helicoils and their clones is “Oh hell yes!” All of the threaded inserts provide a stronger hole than aluminum or magnesium, and most are superior to a threaded plain hole in cast itron. Some European manufacturing installs them in critical locations in aluminum parts during the initial build because the threads are otherwise almost certain to pull out when the bolts are torqued during repairs (Ima look at you, Daimler, and think very bad thoughts about your early aluminum engine blocks). Over the years that I turned wrenches for a living, I probably installed several thousand Helicoil, Timesert, and other thread repair inserts in a variety of mostly light-alloy holes. The only place where I ever encountered repeated failures would be in the spark plug holes of VW air-cooled heads - and the problem there was that the heads were usually cracked, but still in operation because an air-cooled head can do that for a while. More often, such helicoil failures were because some hamfisted jerk had cross-threaded the plug, and peeled the coil out of the head. It took true dedication to Doing It Really Wrong to achieve this. In that case, I’d rethread the hole to 18x1.5, run in an adapter bushing, and hope to hell that the next tooljockey didn’t manage to screw that up. (It was inevitable, alas.)
@GetClosure @werehatrack No need to single out European companies; the US companies are just as adept at buggering it. Northstar head bolts and 5.4 spark plugs, anyone?
@GetClosure @narfcake By the time those had arrived on the scene, I had scaled back to just working on vehicles in my own fleet and a few friends’. But I had figured that the overall trend towards the use of more and more aluminum in engines was the reason why both real and imitation helicoil kits had been showing up in ever greater numbers in the parts stores.
For ten bucks, I’ll give you a recording of the couple next door fighting. Guaranteed loud no matter what you replay it on.
@detailer
For more fun, text your next-door neighbor about an hour after he’s left for work: “Hey, could you guys please fuck a little quieter? I’m trying to sleep.”
@mike808 Near as I can tell,they don’t fuck anymore…just fight like hell.
@detailer @mike808 Maybe not each other, but…
@detailer @lisagd Hence waiting until you know he’s at work before you text him…
@detailer @mike808 “and when did you start going by Bob anyway?”
@detailer @mike808 @unksol Better she should be calling you Bob by mistake than some other name. (Not that Bob gets such articulated responses…)
@detailer @unksol @werehatrack
Who said anything about there being a mistake?
@detailer @mike808 @unksol @werehatrack “it’s symbolic of his struggle against reality!”