All these Keto items don’t bode well for how well this stuff is selling.
How many fads will Americans make terrible products for before we just give up and do sits ups and pull ups for 40 minutes a day?
When Americans give up on health, they don’t mess around with second-best. They just give up. The only consolation they’ll make is maybe switching to diet soda and/or skim milk.
@AaronLeeJohnson@xobzoo When you say we give up you are just scratching the surface. In the last two or three years American culture has sought to avoid hurting anyone’s feelings and as a result tried to redefine beauty by folding in something that in our not too distant past was known to be seriously unhealthy. Now people who exercise are accused of fat shaming. We haven’t given up, we have glorified being overweight and made it a life goal.
@AaronLeeJohnson@tweezak@xobzoo there are so many counter-intuitives going on, I have heard many times over than 70% of the US are overweight,obese…while at the same time there has been a rise in Crossfit/ Boot Camp/HIIT fitness centers and YouTube is plastered with KETO and a ton of fitness and lifestyle experts with like zero credentials.There are too many social influencers out there who are trying to normalize both Anorexia and the morbidly obese.It is dangerous.And don’t get me started with the abuse of Ozempic.
“I have heard many times over than 70% of the US are overweight,obese…while at the same time there has been a rise in Crossfit/ Boot Camp/HIIT fitness centers”
Obviously Crossfit is to blame for the obesity epidemic.
I haven’t tried any of these particular mixes, but I have made a bunch of their various pancake ones and have always enjoyed them. From what I recall their gluten-free varieties were actually tastier than glutenful ones.
Erythritol, high placed ingredient on every single item. There are sweeteners that don’t provide the unpleasant side effects of sugar alcohols; a pity they were not chosen.
@duodec Erythritol is supposedly closer to actual sugar than other sweeteners for baking purposes, and doesn’t have the weird aftertaste of some of the other options.
@duodec@warpedrotors I like and use both Allulose and Monk Fruit (that is mostly Erythritol). Like most things, if you use in moderation you will be fine, if you binge on a sugar alcohol then you kind of get what you deserve .
@duodec erythritol does not ferment in the gut like xylitol and other sugar alcohols. Nearly all of this sweetener is excreted via urine. The gut fermentation is what causes the annoying side effects of sugar alcohols. You will not get those side effects with erythritol. Youll get more gastric discomfort from sugar than you will erythritol.
@bgates1654 I wish that demonstrated with my wife and I. We bought some treats early on with erythritol and both had issues (which sugar can also do but not as bad, again for us). Tummy distress and gas similar to the older Atkins treats with maltilol (maybe less but still present). My wife will never risk trying them again.
@bgates1654 YMMV on gastric distress from erythritol. I can tolerate very small amounts of it, but a muffin whose entire sugar complement has been replaced by erythritol will give me moderate intestinal cramps for several hours and then exit distress as the lower tract gets force-flushed. Maltitol and xylitol actually do less of that in my case. For the trifecta, get me to eat a muffin made with erythritol, canola oil, and chicory root extract (inulin). SpaceX has made boosters with less thrust.
Too many options, don’t feel like making such a detailed choice right now.
I’ve had their pancakes in the past when we were doing keto. They are alright. Not great, not good even. But tolerable.
Wonder how the brownies and frosting bf is. I guess I’ll never know because I’m not wading through 50 options.
Instead of making a brownie and frosting choice I’ll go Back to reading about Bill Gates and this Epstein list. Wild. Did you know they’ve arrested 2 people for trafficking children to be raped by rich/famous people and a list of said people. Even with a list they’ve located and obtained UFO alien bodies and spacecrafts before finding any one of these rich/powerful/famous child rapists?
UFOs before a named and shamed rape client list!!
Sorry.
Maybe it would be a better use of my time to Wade through the options rather than tweeeeter. A this is no way to wake up.
Jesus, the ingredients on this stuff… the frostings are a mix of oils, erythritol and sweeteners and the cookie mix is a mix of all the ultraprocessed ingredients they could find… erythritol, a few other artificial sweeteners for good measure, allulose, unnamed flavorings and even more unnamed flavorings… there is no way that just eating a real cookie could be worse for you than whatever kind of insane lab concoction this is.
@owenversteeg If your body reacts severely negatively to sugar or gluten, then yes, eating a regular cookie is a heck ton worse than eating one of these. I am glad for you that you don’t feel like you have swallowed, digested, and pooped out hot stabby knives every time you eat a regular cookie. And I’m thankful for the rest of us that there are alternatives.
@atravis6 There are a million gluten free, low sugar ways to make cookies. I have made them for my gluten free friends before. This particular lab created monstrosity is a product of hundreds of ridiculous steps of processing many “inputs” so far that they stop becoming food and then back into food again. When you eat this, you eat a pile of strange modern creations compressed, boiled, broken down with industrial solvents and a whole series of steps straight out of science fiction: to my mind the process bears more similarities to the refining of gasoline than the production of food. It is that which I criticize, not the concept of a gluten free or whatever else free cookie.
@actionjacksn04 I can state from sad experience that it is very possible to screw up a brownie mix. It doesn’t even require that it be keto to achieve this. I don’t recall the brand, but the results were suboptimal.
@emrejs@JWhirly@Troy maybe some attention to details needed here? (Sales tax nuances are a right bloody mess to deal with for 50 states with even more local variations.)
@emrejs@troy@werehatrack Indeed. I’ve experienced such in our business as well, even fielding calls from upset consumers about said sales tax nuances in certain states. Thankfully, our software/back-office deals with that for us now.
For this order, $1.86 [tax] isn’t necessarily a deal breaker, but it’s the principle of it; Uncle Sam gets enough of my money the way it is, don’t want to offer up more $ when my tax code says otherwise. I’d be in for ordering this today if they can rectify aforementioned sales tax issue.
@looseneck My no-go ingredient is canola oil; the pain is somewhat lower down when that sneaks in. (I have had to abandon eating most deep-fried fast foods because that stuff is blended into almost everything now.)
@OldCatLady@werehatrack
My boss is also an EMT, says it’s all natural and couldn’t possibly make me sick. We have a water system that you can add flavor and sweetener and kept pushing me to try it and I did. My second day on the job I was puking in the bathroom. So embarrassing!
Delivered today. The dates on the frosting and brownie mix are good but the cake mix was best by February of this year? I mean I’ll still eat it but damn that’s tough even for Meh.
Specs
Product: 6-Pack: Birch Benders Keto Baked Goods & Frostings
Condition: New
Vanilla Frosting
Chocolate Frosting
Fudge Brownie Mix
Chocolate Chip Cookie Mix
Blueberry Muffin Mix
Yellow Cake Mix
Chocolate Cake Mix
What’s Included?
OR
OR
OR
OR
OR
OR
OR
Price Comparison
Brownie Mix: $51.98 for 6 at Amazon
Yellow Cake & Frosting: $74.97 for 3 at Amazon
Chocolate Cake & Frosting: $102.00 for 3 at Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Friday, Nov 17 - Monday, Nov 20
Ick.
@Kyeh He was funny in Real Genius!
@yakkoTDI If you say so!
Heeelllppp! I can’t get it to let me buy! Something went terribly wrong indeed
Seriously , staff- please fix my account.
@OldCatLady are you trying the “slash buy” in the forum option? I dont think that works when there is a choice of things to purchase.
@ironcheftoni @OldCatLady It does work in the forum when you know all the options you have to include.
@ironcheftoni No, it’s a phone issue. Thanks.
All these Keto items don’t bode well for how well this stuff is selling.
How many fads will Americans make terrible products for before we just give up and do sits ups and pull ups for 40 minutes a day?
@AaronLeeJohnson Umm… who’s gonna do sit-ups or pull-ups?
When Americans give up on health, they don’t mess around with second-best. They just give up. The only consolation they’ll make is maybe switching to diet soda and/or skim milk.
@AaronLeeJohnson @xobzoo When you say we give up you are just scratching the surface. In the last two or three years American culture has sought to avoid hurting anyone’s feelings and as a result tried to redefine beauty by folding in something that in our not too distant past was known to be seriously unhealthy. Now people who exercise are accused of fat shaming. We haven’t given up, we have glorified being overweight and made it a life goal.
@AaronLeeJohnson As a diabetic, no number of sit ups will help the stuffing of sugar and/or corn syrup into every product possible.
@AaronLeeJohnson @tweezak @xobzoo there are so many counter-intuitives going on, I have heard many times over than 70% of the US are overweight,obese…while at the same time there has been a rise in Crossfit/ Boot Camp/HIIT fitness centers and YouTube is plastered with KETO and a ton of fitness and lifestyle experts with like zero credentials.There are too many social influencers out there who are trying to normalize both Anorexia and the morbidly obese.It is dangerous.And don’t get me started with the abuse of Ozempic.
@AaronLeeJohnson @growyoungagain @tweezak @xobzoo
“I have heard many times over than 70% of the US are overweight,obese…while at the same time there has been a rise in Crossfit/ Boot Camp/HIIT fitness centers”
Obviously Crossfit is to blame for the obesity epidemic.
sounds terrifying
It is tough to find good gluten free mixes for a decent price. I’m in for a pack of 6.
Mix you want?
/youtube sir mix-a-lot, back
You can stir while you watch this.
@phendrick Cracks me up everytime I see that! TY For posting…
@Mandamm @phendrick Just make sure you don’t slip while stirring.
Keto? Oh No!
*** GODDAMMIT I STILL WANT MARGARITAS***
<ahem>
'scuse
I haven’t tried any of these particular mixes, but I have made a bunch of their various pancake ones and have always enjoyed them. From what I recall their gluten-free varieties were actually tastier than glutenful ones.
Umm, no. Not me. I’ve hit that point before mile 1.8 — pretending there was any way you’d gotten me to “run” a marathon.
(I’d be fine with walking it, or at least some of it… but running “for fun” isn’t my thing.)
Erythritol, high placed ingredient on every single item. There are sweeteners that don’t provide the unpleasant side effects of sugar alcohols; a pity they were not chosen.
Meh.
@duodec Erythritol is supposedly closer to actual sugar than other sweeteners for baking purposes, and doesn’t have the weird aftertaste of some of the other options.
@duodec @warpedrotors I like and use both Allulose and Monk Fruit (that is mostly Erythritol). Like most things, if you use in moderation you will be fine, if you binge on a sugar alcohol then you kind of get what you deserve
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@duodec erythritol does not ferment in the gut like xylitol and other sugar alcohols. Nearly all of this sweetener is excreted via urine. The gut fermentation is what causes the annoying side effects of sugar alcohols. You will not get those side effects with erythritol. Youll get more gastric discomfort from sugar than you will erythritol.
@bgates1654 I wish that demonstrated with my wife and I. We bought some treats early on with erythritol and both had issues (which sugar can also do but not as bad, again for us). Tummy distress and gas similar to the older Atkins treats with maltilol (maybe less but still present). My wife will never risk trying them again.
@bgates1654 YMMV on gastric distress from erythritol. I can tolerate very small amounts of it, but a muffin whose entire sugar complement has been replaced by erythritol will give me moderate intestinal cramps for several hours and then exit distress as the lower tract gets force-flushed. Maltitol and xylitol actually do less of that in my case. For the trifecta, get me to eat a muffin made with erythritol, canola oil, and chicory root extract (inulin). SpaceX has made boosters with less thrust.
@bgates1654 @werehatrack Now I’ll have to consider a couple more ingredients I haven’t worried about.
I once bought frozen waffles from this company. They were super light. Like, so light it was like I wasn’t eating food.
Too many options, don’t feel like making such a detailed choice right now.
I’ve had their pancakes in the past when we were doing keto. They are alright. Not great, not good even. But tolerable.
Wonder how the brownies and frosting bf is. I guess I’ll never know because I’m not wading through 50 options.
Instead of making a brownie and frosting choice I’ll go Back to reading about Bill Gates and this Epstein list. Wild. Did you know they’ve arrested 2 people for trafficking children to be raped by rich/famous people and a list of said people. Even with a list they’ve located and obtained UFO alien bodies and spacecrafts before finding any one of these rich/powerful/famous child rapists?
UFOs before a named and shamed rape client list!!
Sorry.
Maybe it would be a better use of my time to Wade through the options rather than tweeeeter. A this is no way to wake up.
So how’s the frosting?
Jesus, the ingredients on this stuff… the frostings are a mix of oils, erythritol and sweeteners and the cookie mix is a mix of all the ultraprocessed ingredients they could find… erythritol, a few other artificial sweeteners for good measure, allulose, unnamed flavorings and even more unnamed flavorings… there is no way that just eating a real cookie could be worse for you than whatever kind of insane lab concoction this is.
@owenversteeg If your body reacts severely negatively to sugar or gluten, then yes, eating a regular cookie is a heck ton worse than eating one of these. I am glad for you that you don’t feel like you have swallowed, digested, and pooped out hot stabby knives every time you eat a regular cookie. And I’m thankful for the rest of us that there are alternatives.
@atravis6 There are a million gluten free, low sugar ways to make cookies. I have made them for my gluten free friends before. This particular lab created monstrosity is a product of hundreds of ridiculous steps of processing many “inputs” so far that they stop becoming food and then back into food again. When you eat this, you eat a pile of strange modern creations compressed, boiled, broken down with industrial solvents and a whole series of steps straight out of science fiction: to my mind the process bears more similarities to the refining of gasoline than the production of food. It is that which I criticize, not the concept of a gluten free or whatever else free cookie.
i made their pancakes and hated them, gave them to my black lab, she scarfed them down and then threw them up. That should tell you something
@commodog That dogs shouldn’t eat half the ingredients in keto stuff that has sweetener? Yeah, glad she threw them up and didn’t need a vet visit.
In to try the brownies and the cake mix with frosting. Dubious the frosting is any good but it’s pretty hard to screw up a brownie mix right?
/giphy makeshift-delicate-reason
@actionjacksn04 I can state from sad experience that it is very possible to screw up a brownie mix. It doesn’t even require that it be keto to achieve this. I don’t recall the brand, but the results were suboptimal.
Despite the specs, I think these are refurbs…
This is food ingredients and in MA we don’t pay sales tax on food unless it is prepared and ready to eat.
@emrejs Agreed!! These should not be taxed in my state either! Yet when I tried to purchase, there tax placed on the order. Meh, why?
@emrejs @JWhirly @Troy maybe some attention to details needed here? (Sales tax nuances are a right bloody mess to deal with for 50 states with even more local variations.)
@emrejs @troy @werehatrack Indeed. I’ve experienced such in our business as well, even fielding calls from upset consumers about said sales tax nuances in certain states. Thankfully, our software/back-office deals with that for us now.
For this order, $1.86 [tax] isn’t necessarily a deal breaker, but it’s the principle of it; Uncle Sam gets enough of my money the way it is, don’t want to offer up more $ when my tax code says otherwise. I’d be in for ordering this today if they can rectify aforementioned sales tax issue.
@emrejs @Jwhirly this should be fixed now. Our apologies!
Mmm, mustard brownies.
/giphy musical-rainy-mustard
Sell a six different product variety pack and I’m in
@dadozer or even two brownie, two cookie, and two muffin would be good
@dadozer @cerridwyn @blaineg @atravis6 As you wish!
Stevia gives me a headache and makes me vomit. I have to look at EVERYTHING now before I buy, because sugar is now being replaced by this awful thing.
@looseneck My no-go ingredient is canola oil; the pain is somewhat lower down when that sneaks in. (I have had to abandon eating most deep-fried fast foods because that stuff is blended into almost everything now.)
@looseneck @werehatrack Yet another ingredient to suspect…
@OldCatLady @werehatrack
My boss is also an EMT, says it’s all natural and couldn’t possibly make me sick. We have a water system that you can add flavor and sweetener and kept pushing me to try it and I did. My second day on the job I was puking in the bathroom. So embarrassing!
@looseneck @OldCatLady @werehatrack
All natural - so is deadly nightshade, and oleander, and many kinds of mushrooms …
@Kyeh @looseneck @OldCatLady And castor beans, mustn’t forget those.
@Kyeh @looseneck @OldCatLady @werehatrack
Mmmm, castor beans!
@blaineg @Kyeh @OldCatLady @werehatrack It came back yesterday - I almost threw up just looking at it
@Kyeh @looseneck @OldCatLady @werehatrack
Cyanide, arsenic, CO, chloramine, strychnine, polonium, mercury, thallium (inheritance powder), botox…
Mine were just delivered. Sure wish I would have read the reviews BEFORE purchasing or not at all :"(
Delivered today. The dates on the frosting and brownie mix are good but the cake mix was best by February of this year? I mean I’ll still eat it but damn that’s tough even for Meh.