@mcemanuel I’ve added it to our specs

@werehatrack It says water resistant not water proof.
Resistance is futile!

@dvermilion, yes, it expires and becomesless effective with time, eventually providing no sun protection.

@dvermilion that guy looks like he knows a lot about avian legalities.

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@mediocrebot Yes, yes it did.

@ShotgunX I think that quote rubs it the wrong way.

@cheapbastard

*Formulated without Oxybenzone and Octinoxate which have been identified to have potential adverse impact on coral reefs.

As per their website for Canada.

@cheapbastard Yes per the description.

I just wish these were TSA-checkpoint compliant. Yes, I’d pay the same amount for half as much.

@cheapbastard it’s difficult to read the ingredients but at least some of them appear to be on someone’s list of substances harmful to reefs. I don’t know that website so can’t vouch for the accuracy of the information.

@cheapbastard @ciabelle Decant half the tube into a refillable squeeze container for your carry-on, and put the rest in your checked baggage. I do that with my shampoo and conditioner.

@cheapbastard No, this is not reef safe. Active ingredients are avobenzone, homosalate, octisalate, octocrylene. https://www.nps.gov/articles/protect-yourself-and-protect-the-reef.htm

@cheapbastard @werehatrack Wow, I don’t blame you, but that marketing phraseology has some real cojones: “No X, which would Y” is technically not claiming “Doesn’t do Y” but certainly is trying to mislead you into it. meh’s writer seems to have gotten fooled as well. A new red flag to watch out for (new to me anyways).

In case you don’t see them: per other responses, apparently, this product does, in fact, Y = harm ocean reefs.

@cheapbastard @ergomeh There is at least one ingredient, avobenzone, that’s specifically called out as harmful to reefs in sources like the NPS. But technically the “HEL” list you found seems to be for both reefs and other environments.

@AySz88 @cheapbastard @ergomeh Using on my lake reefs instead.

@AySz88 @cheapbastard @farley999z more broadly I wonder if these chemical will break down fast enough not to be a long-term problem. All lakes lead to the ocean and the idea that just because it’s diluted it won’t have an impact is not valid for forever chemical or microplastics or …

@cheapbastard @ciabelle if meh was smart, they’d sell some 3.4 oz travel containers next…

@davidgro Because that’s the level some people want, for their own reasons? Tastes and situations vary.

@werehatrack right, but I’m asking what those reasons might be - I want to know if they perhaps apply to me

@davidgro Some of us like enough protection to get a dark tan. Others want a light tan. And still others like pasty white.

@davidgro @hchavers And some folks, like my deceased S.O., neither tan nor easily burn despite having pasty-white skin, so a 30 would do the trick. I, on the other hand, would buy 150 if it existed. I’ve had two skin cancers removed so far, one on each arm.

@werehatrack You’re just getting started. I’m now up to 9, fortunately all basal cell. I was foolish when I was younger, and many years later they’re appearing.

@ParadisePete Well, if you count the ones that were treated with 5FU or Imiquimod, I’m up to seven. Only two have needed excision so far. (No melanomas, mostly squamous and one basal.)

@davidgro because technically, there is nothing above spf 30

@hchavers Yeah, but these were manufactured to be sold before summer two years ago.

@cinoclav @hchavers still should taste the same

@cinoclav @hchavers

these were manufactured to be sold before summer two years ago.

The FDA requires that sunscreen sold here must be shelf-stable for three years after manufacture.

@katbyter This is an important question that we must investigate.

While you’re at it, please remove “reef safe” from the main page’s bullet points. They have avobenzone, which is not reef safe per the National Park Service. Despite their copy elsewhere about being “reef friendly” by not containing certain chemicals, they slyly ignore what they actually do contain.

h/t to @chaosdreamer, here.

@jkyne Sorry about that, it’s definitely six. We’re changing the specs now.

@jkyne
How many kids do you have that you ordered serval packages lol?

@jkyne @Star2236 maybe they’re planning on starting a sunscreen delivery and slathering service for the beach this summer.

Side hustles are everywhere.

@djslack @jkyne @Star2236 Or they have an entire scout troop to take care of at camp. Or … any number of things.

@Cindyloohooo Check the Amazon reviews - I saw one that said it smelled like coconut.

@jrvigna They’re up there in the specs but here you go:

SPF 30: 8/29/24
SPF 50: 8/12/24
SPF 70: 8/22/24

Basically, they’re best used this summer.

@jrvigna I mean at this price once they expire they’re still probably decent non-protective lotions to have lying around.

@Joedetroit I hope you still have masks on hand, since this stuff is not ideal in lungs either.

(“Natural” titanium dioxide based sunscreens are the first pitfall that comes to mind.)

@AySz88 Thanks! I will keep that in mind. When I apply sunscreen I get it out of my car (or truck), walk away from the vehicle, spray it on, then return it the vehicle. Moving forward I will also hold my breath!

@gs82jet File a gripe with meh.com/support, they’re pretty good about making things right.

@bkmckenny24 Contact meh.com/support for assistance. I will note that in the extended description for the product, this information was explicitly given:

Expiration:
SPF 30: 8/29/24
SPF 50: 8/12/24
SPF 70: 8/22/24

Depending upon a number of factors, sunscreen products may be safe and functional well past the date on the packaging. The FDA requires that they be shelf-stable in room-temp environments for three years. Some will barely make it to that point without starting to decay, and some will remain potent well past that. Unfortunately, I have no idea which way these will tend to age, so I can’t affirmatively say that I know they’ll remain useful. I know that I have two bottles of lotion of a different brand that are over six years old and still work well, as demonstrated by the sharp sunburn line demarcating where I applied it and where I missed. (I’m a habitual underspreader; I use what would be enough for two people, but I fail to work it around enough.) YMMV, and if you have a history of higher than average skin cancer risk (or you’re getting old, like me) then you’ve got more reason to play it safe and heed the dates. I will also note that there does not seem to be any toxicity risk associated with expired sunscreen that has not changed its physical characteristics; the only thing cited as a risk in using it is reduced protection from UV damage.

@user28808609 The staff doesn’t routinely read these forums; head over to meh.com/support and let them know via the form there.