@jmoor783 Ehh… I’m not a fan of cleaning with anything I can drink safely. 99-Iso alcohol is where it’s at. Strips the oils right off your hands and arms, so you know you’re cleaning.
@finalremix@jmoor783
I’m too lazy to find a link, but 70% isopropyl actually kills better than 99% isopropyl.
99% is much better for cleaning off gunk and corrosion, though.
@Hawk@Uncle Vinny, Hawk & Uncle Vinny, you all might wanna reconsider your Motto. A bullet never killed bacteria, nor a vius, or fungi. Neither has a Train!! Also, I do drink Pickle Juice to help prevent muscle cramps, and this drink has a lot of vinegar in it, and so does my salad dressing. It hasn’t killed me yet & I’m over 72 years old. Nevertheless, I couldn’t tell by your answer if you were endorsing this product, or giving it a thumbs down, so…
@awk@RedOak@UncleVinny, it’s both since we all have two sides of our ID, Ego, or whatever. Maybe, I’m Bi-Polar. Anyway, on the @awk, @Hawk canondrum, I was looking at that when I accidently erased part of Vinny’s name & wondered about the @awk deal, so I added the ‘H’!! My Bad & Sorry for this long rationale!!
@decoratedwarvet@Hawk@uncle I’m betting a bullet would do a fine job of killing a bacteria, virus, or fungi. Either the impact or the heat should do it.
@blaineg@Hawk@uncle, speaking of myths, some guys have been watching too many action movies, or listening to myth makers. I was shot twice & felt no burn at all. The round in my leg did shatter so many nerves my leg started shaking for about 30 min, but No burning sen-sation. BTW, I’ve never really heard anyone in a movie cry out, “Oh, Hell, That Burns!” Just a little sarcasm For a bit of sarcasm!! BTW², he wasn’t talking about killing a few bacteria out of one million organisms! JSYK, I majored in Biomed Egn & had to take Sanitary Microbiology, so let us not resort to a fn pissing contest, Please. Thanks!!
Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess… Personally, I prefer either cheap wine or mid-level scotch to tiny plastic woo-woo sprayers.
Listen, if you want to disregard science and pretend vinegar actually works, just soak a paper towel and put it in a baggie. Total cost is like 10 cents and you can carry it everywhere with you.
As part of research aimed at preparing us for a flu pandemic, UK researchers found that malt vinegar, much like bleach and washing up liquid, can rapidly inactivate the flu virus.
More recently, US researchers from the Albert Einstein College of Medicine found that vinegar efficiently killed Mycobacterium tuberculosis — the bacteria that causes tuberculosis — after 30 mins of exposure to a six per cent acetic solution.
@sammydog01 I need to get to bed, but I’m curious about whether the researchers tried scrubbing the same flu surfaces with water-moistened towels to see where the flu ended up. And as to 30 minutes to kill tb: a) are you worried about tb? b) vinegar is ~ 5% acetic acid c) vinegar isn’t even the first ingredient of this spray d) 30 minutes LOL
@sammydog01@Superllama7, now the ?question is, ‘Do we trust UK scientist & researchers’¿?Hmm,…& who’s Albert? Didn’t he figure out how to develope a Nuclear Bomb? How did that work out¿?
@Superllama7 I started looking stuff up again this morning. I guess I need a life. I checked into whether peppermint oil can kill germs and found this from the Johns Hopkins website:
Results of lab studies are promising — one at Johns Hopkins found that certain essential oils could kill a type of Lyme bacteria better than antibiotics — but results in human clinical trials are mixed.
I would be pretty surprised if the fruit ones did anything but maybe the peppermint one has some use beyond vinegar? I wouldn’t use this stuff before surgery or even eating with my hands but maybe it’s better than nothing.
Wait I bought this bc the meh description referred to it as a “sanitizer.” Upon further review, I didn’t see any breakdown or reference to it’s ability to actually sanitize anything. The yukbgone website says it “cleans” which is quite different.
Does anyone have any info on this products ability to sanitize and kill germs and such?
@connorbush Sorry, that answer was snark. Any moist wipe will clean a surface better than nothing at all. An acidic wipe like vinegar will kill some of the microbes that don’t get wiped off. However, it doesn’t compare to ethanol and probably some other disinfectants that are non-to-mildly toxic when considering microbe massacre rates.
Personally, from what I’ve read, I think everyone is way too worried about “germs” as a broad concept, and would do better to wash their hands and keep them away from their face when people around them are sick
@connorbush@Superllama7 I don’t get why people prefer hand sanitizer to washing their hands with soap. Would you rather have your hands covered with dead bacteria or no bacteria at all?
@connorbush@sammydog01@Superllama7
Me personally, I only use sanitizer for situations where I can’t wash my hands, but I do know that many people prefer it instead of hand washing.
Ethanol does diddly squat to noro, so I’d much rather wash well.
@connorbush “Sanitizer” is wishful thinking at best by meh, at worst an outright lie. It probably can remove any loose organics from a surface and leave a nice stink behind which would prevent further bacterial growth. Probably wouldn’t touch a virus. Wash your hands thoroughly before eating and stay away from your eyes and you will be doing more than these wipes except you (hopefully) won’t stink.
A quick google search says that vinegar does indeed kill germs, just not as well as other things. So if you’re into “natural” this is better than peeing on your hands. Or was that for jellyfish stings?
@blaineg@ponagathos Be wary of cleaning screens with cleaners. When they are plastic, they’re susceptible to damage (my hand me down monitor at work was smudgy all the years I used it), and even when they’re glass they tend to be coated with things. Apple tells you to not even use isopropyl.
@blaineg@InnocuousFarmer@ponagathos
Alcohols melt (chemically) and dissolve plastics. So do “essential oils” also known as VOCs (Volatile Organic Compounds).
And then there are VOC hazards that limit options even further. You don’t want a cleaner (e.g. water) that creates shorts or disrupts the electronics either.
Use cleaners made specifically for plastics and electronics. Meaning applied chemical engineers have worked on developing a tested product, not some youtube “influencer” (aka entertainer, popularity whore, snake oil huckster, carnival barker) pimping this week’s (or, ahem, today’s) sponsored woo-woo juice.
@blaineg@InnocuousFarmer@mike808@ponagathos Most screens now are gorilla glass or something equivalent, in which case a microfiber cleaning cloth dampened with distilled water is all you need.
@blaineg@mike808@ponagathos@stolicat Not only that, but glass plus a coating. You need to worry about damaging the coating, whatever it is, more than the glass, which I’d imagine is fairly inert.
+1 the microfiber in any case. It was a revelation, the first time I used one.
@blaineg@mike808@ponagathos@stolicat I think the general point is to be aware that it’s common for screens of all kinds to be more easily damaged than you’d think, so look up the manufacturer’s instructions.
@blaineg And for a number of others, since it got several likes. Maybe my Facebook Container browser extension is blocking access to Facebook content from non-Facebook pages.
When you’re on powerful immunosuppressant drugs for an auto-immune condition, you (I) don’t want to be messing around with scented vinegar. Regular (5-6x daily) handwashing, plus occasional use of 70% isopropyl sanitizer is good practice. That said, I do use a mixture of vinegar, salt, and dish soap on my weeds- it works almost as well as the carcinogenic spray sold by Big Chemo, and makes my garden smell like a salad!
If you’ve seen how the restaurant staff uses same rag to wipe the second dirtiest thing in a restaurant (the seats… first dirtiest is… no, not the toilet since those occasionally get cleaned… dirtiest is the menu) and the table top you need these.
Well, wait, smearing french fry oils around with “essential oils” might not do the trick.
Good thing fast food restaurants don’t have menus at the table.
@RedOak I was going to ask when the last time you cleaned off the table at a fast food place but maybe you do. I guess you learned from a professional.
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Vinegar ain’t got shit on ethanol
@jmoor783 Ehh… I’m not a fan of cleaning with anything I can drink safely. 99-Iso alcohol is where it’s at. Strips the oils right off your hands and arms, so you know you’re cleaning.
@finalremix @jmoor783
I’m too lazy to find a link, but 70% isopropyl actually kills better than 99% isopropyl.
99% is much better for cleaning off gunk and corrosion, though.
@finalremix @jmoor783 @Narwalt Wouldn’t 99% make good lighter fluid?
@finalremix @jmoor783, plus the alcohol has sanitizing & disinfecting properties where as, I’m not sure vinegar has either, so…
I actually want the ones with the harsh chemicals, you got any of those? My favorite scent is “industrial solvents”.
@awk something in a hydrofluoric acid, perhaps? With a sulphurous tincture?
@UncleVinny My motto is, if it can kill people, it can kill bacteria.
@awk @UncleVinny Now that’s squeaky clean!
@awk This is what you want.
I tried it and it’s the Axis Chemicals version of new car smell.
@Hawk @Uncle Vinny, Hawk & Uncle Vinny, you all might wanna reconsider your Motto. A bullet never killed bacteria, nor a vius, or fungi. Neither has a Train!! Also, I do drink Pickle Juice to help prevent muscle cramps, and this drink has a lot of vinegar in it, and so does my salad dressing. It hasn’t killed me yet & I’m over 72 years old. Nevertheless, I couldn’t tell by your answer if you were endorsing this product, or giving it a
thumbs down, so…
@decoratedwarvet I can’t determine whether you’re over-thinking or under-thinking their comments.
BTW, it’s @awk & @UncleVinny
@awk @RedOak @UncleVinny, it’s both since we all have two sides of our ID, Ego, or whatever. Maybe, I’m Bi-Polar. Anyway, on the @awk, @Hawk canondrum, I was looking at that when I accidently erased part of Vinny’s name & wondered about the @awk deal, so I added the ‘H’!! My Bad & Sorry for this long rationale!!
@decoratedwarvet @Hawk @uncle I’m betting a bullet would do a fine job of killing a bacteria, virus, or fungi. Either the impact or the heat should do it.
Sounds like a good Mythbusters episode.
@blaineg @Hawk @uncle, speaking of myths, some guys have been watching too many action movies, or listening to myth makers. I was shot twice & felt no burn at all. The round in my leg did shatter so many nerves my leg started shaking for about 30 min, but No burning sen-sation. BTW, I’ve never really heard anyone in a movie cry out, “Oh, Hell, That Burns!” Just a little sarcasm For a bit of sarcasm!! BTW², he wasn’t talking about killing a few bacteria out of one million organisms! JSYK, I majored in Biomed Egn & had to take Sanitary Microbiology, so let us not resort to a fn pissing contest, Please. Thanks!!
ThisProduktBGon
Vinegar doesn’t kill all kinds of bacteria. This is some woo.
@Wilhelm_B fire does. Fire is pretty, too. I like fire.
@flehm @Wilhelm_B YES!
@flehm @sammydog01 @Wilhelm_B
Beaker!!!
Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess… Personally, I prefer either cheap wine or mid-level scotch to tiny plastic woo-woo sprayers.
Listen, if you want to disregard science and pretend vinegar actually works, just soak a paper towel and put it in a baggie. Total cost is like 10 cents and you can carry it everywhere with you.
@Superllama7 Here’s some science for you:
@sammydog01 I need to get to bed, but I’m curious about whether the researchers tried scrubbing the same flu surfaces with water-moistened towels to see where the flu ended up. And as to 30 minutes to kill tb: a) are you worried about tb? b) vinegar is ~ 5% acetic acid c) vinegar isn’t even the first ingredient of this spray d) 30 minutes LOL
@sammydog01 @Superllama7 Yeah, not gonna soak my hands or surfaces for 30 minutes waiting for the germs to die.
@cpietra @sammydog01 @Superllama7 Drown those suckers!
@sammydog01 @Superllama7, now the ?question is, ‘Do we trust UK scientist & researchers’¿?Hmm,…& who’s Albert? Didn’t he figure out how to develope a Nuclear Bomb? How did that work out¿?
@Superllama7 I started looking stuff up again this morning. I guess I need a life. I checked into whether peppermint oil can kill germs and found this from the Johns Hopkins website:
I would be pretty surprised if the fruit ones did anything but maybe the peppermint one has some use beyond vinegar? I wouldn’t use this stuff before surgery or even eating with my hands but maybe it’s better than nothing.
If essential oils weren’t dangerous to cats, I might be in. Oh well!
@dcm714 Meh should definitely sell some with non-essential oils.
@dcm714 @mehcuda67
But, … they’re essential!
@dcm714 @mehcuda67 @mike808 Not to me they’re not.
PlasticBeInTheLandfill
Wait I bought this bc the meh description referred to it as a “sanitizer.” Upon further review, I didn’t see any breakdown or reference to it’s ability to actually sanitize anything. The yukbgone website says it “cleans” which is quite different.
Does anyone have any info on this products ability to sanitize and kill germs and such?
@connorbush no
@connorbush It smells nice. Does that count?
@connorbush Sorry, that answer was snark. Any moist wipe will clean a surface better than nothing at all. An acidic wipe like vinegar will kill some of the microbes that don’t get wiped off. However, it doesn’t compare to ethanol and probably some other disinfectants that are non-to-mildly toxic when considering microbe massacre rates.
Personally, from what I’ve read, I think everyone is way too worried about “germs” as a broad concept, and would do better to wash their hands and keep them away from their face when people around them are sick
@connorbush @Superllama7 I don’t get why people prefer hand sanitizer to washing their hands with soap. Would you rather have your hands covered with dead bacteria or no bacteria at all?
@connorbush @sammydog01 @Superllama7
Me personally, I only use sanitizer for situations where I can’t wash my hands, but I do know that many people prefer it instead of hand washing.
Ethanol does diddly squat to noro, so I’d much rather wash well.
@connorbush @Narwalt @Superllama7 I didn’t know that about norovirus. I’ll keep on washing my hands then.
idk where meh gets off on calling this a sanitizer… (Shakes fist in air)
“san·i·tize
/ˈsanəˌtīz/
verb
make clean and hygienic; disinfect.”
@connorbush “Sanitizer” is wishful thinking at best by meh, at worst an outright lie. It probably can remove any loose organics from a surface and leave a nice stink behind which would prevent further bacterial growth. Probably wouldn’t touch a virus. Wash your hands thoroughly before eating and stay away from your eyes and you will be doing more than these wipes except you (hopefully) won’t stink.
@connorbush, check out Sammydog01’s gray box answer & run with that! On my screen I scroll upward to find this gray box A2A! JSYK!
Why do you want my Chinese friend Yuk Be gone? It is only a cough.
Too soon?
@hchavers Yep. You confused him with Wei Tu Soon.
@hchavers @mike808
Yes, it really aired.
Just come out and say it.
A quick google search says that vinegar does indeed kill germs, just not as well as other things. So if you’re into “natural” this is better than peeing on your hands. Or was that for jellyfish stings?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2018-01-12/does-vinegar-really-kill-household-germs/8806878
@sammydog01 Don’t be ridiculous… Nothing’s better than peeing on my hands
@sammydog01 @Superllama7
@sammydog01 @Superllama7 @therealjrn It’s the thought that counts.
Are we completely sure these are not the Monster screen cleaner sprays with a new sticker slapped on them?
Those stickers definitely look like they were made with an old ink jet printer.
@ponagathos So I can use the Monster screen cleaner for disinfecting?
Or should I clean my screen with this stuff?
@blaineg @ponagathos Be wary of cleaning screens with cleaners. When they are plastic, they’re susceptible to damage (my hand me down monitor at work was smudgy all the years I used it), and even when they’re glass they tend to be coated with things. Apple tells you to not even use isopropyl.
@blaineg @InnocuousFarmer @ponagathos
Alcohols melt (chemically) and dissolve plastics. So do “essential oils” also known as VOCs (Volatile Organic Compounds).
And then there are VOC hazards that limit options even further. You don’t want a cleaner (e.g. water) that creates shorts or disrupts the electronics either.
Use cleaners made specifically for plastics and electronics. Meaning applied chemical engineers have worked on developing a tested product, not some youtube “influencer” (aka entertainer, popularity whore, snake oil huckster, carnival barker) pimping this week’s (or, ahem, today’s) sponsored woo-woo juice.
@blaineg @InnocuousFarmer @mike808 @ponagathos Most screens now are gorilla glass or something equivalent, in which case a microfiber cleaning cloth dampened with distilled water is all you need.
@blaineg @mike808 @ponagathos @stolicat Not only that, but glass plus a coating. You need to worry about damaging the coating, whatever it is, more than the glass, which I’d imagine is fairly inert.
+1 the microfiber in any case. It was a revelation, the first time I used one.
@blaineg @InnocuousFarmer @ponagathos @stolicat
Not all screens are on phones. Screens on TVs and computer monitors are not made of “gorilla glass”.
However, the touch sensors that are part of the glass can be affected by chemical cleaners too.
@blaineg @mike808 @ponagathos @stolicat I think the general point is to be aware that it’s common for screens of all kinds to be more easily damaged than you’d think, so look up the manufacturer’s instructions.
Thank God these don’t have tubes…
@Willijs3 You think you know everything about tubes! well let me tell you…Oh wait, I’m not THAT guy.
@Kyser_Soze @Willijs3 So, are they hooked up or not?
@blaineg @Kyser_Soze @Willijs3 they’re real!
@blaineg @Willijs3 They may be, of course that means they may not be.
@Kyser_Soze @Willijs3 I guess I should have bought one just to take it apart.
A guy at work has a little external amp for his computer with fake tubes on it.
Are you guy’s nuts the 5 combined are 2.5 ounces that’s nuts for $8.00 ,the ingredients cost 15 cents it’s 99% water
@mellowirishgent Yep, that would be …
/image dees nuts
Explain how you get 200 sprays from 1/2 Ounce ???
@mellowirishgent Each spray is 1/400th of an ounce.
I’ll try these instead of the squeeze bottle of grape jelly I’[ve been using to sanitize my hands…
/giphy boastful-plump-fox
@blaineg I got a broken image. Did you mean this?
@ThunderChicken Yep, but they both show here.
@blaineg And for a number of others, since it got several likes. Maybe my Facebook Container browser extension is blocking access to Facebook content from non-Facebook pages.
When you’re on powerful immunosuppressant drugs for an auto-immune condition, you (I) don’t want to be messing around with scented vinegar. Regular (5-6x daily) handwashing, plus occasional use of 70% isopropyl sanitizer is good practice. That said, I do use a mixture of vinegar, salt, and dish soap on my weeds- it works almost as well as the carcinogenic spray sold by Big Chemo, and makes my garden smell like a salad!
@MrNews Just add some olive oil to your weed mix, and you’re all set.
@blaineg LOL, and with the soap, I won’t even have to wash the bowl…
If you’ve seen how the restaurant staff uses same rag to wipe the second dirtiest thing in a restaurant (the seats… first dirtiest is… no, not the toilet since those occasionally get cleaned… dirtiest is the menu) and the table top you need these.
Well, wait, smearing french fry oils around with “essential oils” might not do the trick.
Good thing fast food restaurants don’t have menus at the table.
@RedOak dear old dad was a medical infection control expert who lectured around the country in addition to running his medical supply business.
When our family ate out, we could always count on him going to the restroom to wash his hands after touching menu when ordering.
@RedOak I was going to ask when the last time you cleaned off the table at a fast food place but maybe you do. I guess you learned from a professional.
Nose for rot? … rot…
Nose fer… oh…
Oh.
Well this class experiment (someone posted on facebook) doesn’t speak well for hand sanitizer (bread #5)
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/wash-your-hands-science-experiment-with-moldy-bread-shows-the-importance-of-hygiene
@Kidsandliz Breaking news! Chromebooks are a leading cause of moldy bread!
@macromeh So buy an macbook air
No chat section in the email today?
@djslack That happens, apparently. I don’t save the emails but I’ve seen…uh…haven’t seen the chat in other emails.
@djslack @therealjrn Weekends usually
@sammydog01 @therealjrn ah. I finally told Gmail to quit hiding shit from me and started seeing the emails again recently, so there was a lot I missed.
Will this remove the dirt from my cornhole?