@Hawk@Uncle Vinny, Hawk & Uncle Vinny, you all might wanna reconsider your Motto. A bullet never killed bacteria, nor a vius, or fungi. Neither has a Train!! Also, I do drink Pickle Juice to help prevent muscle cramps, and this drink has a lot of vinegar in it, and so does my salad dressing. It hasn’t killed me yet & I’m over 72 years old. Nevertheless, I couldn’t tell by your answer if you were endorsing this product, or giving it a thumbs down, so…
@awk@RedOak@UncleVinny, it’s both since we all have two sides of our ID, Ego, or whatever. Maybe, I’m Bi-Polar. Anyway, on the @awk, @Hawk canondrum, I was looking at that when I accidently erased part of Vinny’s name & wondered about the @awk deal, so I added the ‘H’!! My Bad & Sorry for this long rationale!!
@blaineg@Hawk@uncle, speaking of myths, some guys have been watching too many action movies, or listening to myth makers. I was shot twice & felt no burn at all. The round in my leg did shatter so many nerves my leg started shaking for about 30 min, but No burning sen-sation. BTW, I’ve never really heard anyone in a movie cry out, “Oh, Hell, That Burns!” Just a little sarcasm For a bit of sarcasm!! BTW², he wasn’t talking about killing a few bacteria out of one million organisms! JSYK, I majored in Biomed Egn & had to take Sanitary Microbiology, so let us not resort to a fn pissing contest, Please. Thanks!!
As part of research aimed at preparing us for a flu pandemic, UK researchers found that malt vinegar, much like bleach and washing up liquid, can rapidly inactivate the flu virus.
More recently, US researchers from the Albert Einstein College of Medicine found that vinegar efficiently killed Mycobacterium tuberculosis — the bacteria that causes tuberculosis — after 30 mins of exposure to a six per cent acetic solution.
@sammydog01 I need to get to bed, but I’m curious about whether the researchers tried scrubbing the same flu surfaces with water-moistened towels to see where the flu ended up. And as to 30 minutes to kill tb: a) are you worried about tb? b) vinegar is ~ 5% acetic acid c) vinegar isn’t even the first ingredient of this spray d) 30 minutes LOL
@Superllama7 I started looking stuff up again this morning. I guess I need a life. I checked into whether peppermint oil can kill germs and found this from the Johns Hopkins website:
Results of lab studies are promising — one at Johns Hopkins found that certain essential oils could kill a type of Lyme bacteria better than antibiotics — but results in human clinical trials are mixed.
I would be pretty surprised if the fruit ones did anything but maybe the peppermint one has some use beyond vinegar? I wouldn’t use this stuff before surgery or even eating with my hands but maybe it’s better than nothing.
Wait I bought this bc the meh description referred to it as a “sanitizer.” Upon further review, I didn’t see any breakdown or reference to it’s ability to actually sanitize anything. The yukbgone website says it “cleans” which is quite different.
Does anyone have any info on this products ability to sanitize and kill germs and such?
@connorbush Sorry, that answer was snark. Any moist wipe will clean a surface better than nothing at all. An acidic wipe like vinegar will kill some of the microbes that don’t get wiped off. However, it doesn’t compare to ethanol and probably some other disinfectants that are non-to-mildly toxic when considering microbe massacre rates.
Personally, from what I’ve read, I think everyone is way too worried about “germs” as a broad concept, and would do better to wash their hands and keep them away from their face when people around them are sick
Me personally, I only use sanitizer for situations where I can’t wash my hands, but I do know that many people prefer it instead of hand washing.
Ethanol does diddly squat to noro, so I’d much rather wash well.
@connorbush “Sanitizer” is wishful thinking at best by meh, at worst an outright lie. It probably can remove any loose organics from a surface and leave a nice stink behind which would prevent further bacterial growth. Probably wouldn’t touch a virus. Wash your hands thoroughly before eating and stay away from your eyes and you will be doing more than these wipes except you (hopefully) won’t stink.
A quick google search says that vinegar does indeed kill germs, just not as well as other things. So if you’re into “natural” this is better than peeing on your hands. Or was that for jellyfish stings?
@blaineg@ponagathos Be wary of cleaning screens with cleaners. When they are plastic, they’re susceptible to damage (my hand me down monitor at work was smudgy all the years I used it), and even when they’re glass they tend to be coated with things. Apple tells you to not even use isopropyl.
And then there are VOC hazards that limit options even further. You don’t want a cleaner (e.g. water) that creates shorts or disrupts the electronics either.
Use cleaners made specifically for plastics and electronics. Meaning applied chemical engineers have worked on developing a tested product, not some youtube “influencer” (aka entertainer, popularity whore, snake oil huckster, carnival barker) pimping this week’s (or, ahem, today’s) sponsored woo-woo juice.
@blaineg@mike808@ponagathos@stolicat I think the general point is to be aware that it’s common for screens of all kinds to be more easily damaged than you’d think, so look up the manufacturer’s instructions.
When you’re on powerful immunosuppressant drugs for an auto-immune condition, you (I) don’t want to be messing around with scented vinegar. Regular (5-6x daily) handwashing, plus occasional use of 70% isopropyl sanitizer is good practice. That said, I do use a mixture of vinegar, salt, and dish soap on my weeds- it works almost as well as the carcinogenic spray sold by Big Chemo, and makes my garden smell like a salad!
If you’ve seen how the restaurant staff uses same rag to wipe the second dirtiest thing in a restaurant (the seats… first dirtiest is… no, not the toilet since those occasionally get cleaned… dirtiest is the menu) and the table top you need these.
Well, wait, smearing french fry oils around with “essential oils” might not do the trick.
Good thing fast food restaurants don’t have menus at the table.