@gnol I had everything plugged into the same APC protector but a surge came through the phone line. Fried the phone, a credit card terminal, the pc connected to it all, and the network card on a second pc connected to the first. Phone company said it couldn’t happen, but the adding machine plugged into the APC was OK, because it wasn’t connected to the phone line. But none of my dead equipment looked as bad as that!
Looking at the reviews on Amazon shows that not only do the USB ports only pump out 1amp but they fail rather quickly. If you only want these for the surge protected 6 outlets then it’s probably a decent deal, otherwise I’d look elsewhere.
Problem is his that these most likely draw a lot of phantom power and there’s nothing you could do about that. You should probably unplug your USB chargers when not in use, but when they are part of the electrical outlet, you don’t have that ability.
@cengland0 I had the same thought. Isn’t it doing the AC to DC conversion even if nothing is attached? I’ve got a Kill-A-Watt that I’m gonna plug in a phone charger minus the phone and see if any juice is flowing.
@Albright It’s taking less load if nothing is plugged in but they are not 100% efficient so they do take power when not being used too.
For a USB charger, the phantom draw is probably less than a watt when not in use, at least I hope so. It depends on how well it was designed. If it was a charger from Samsung or Apple, I’d trust that it was made properly and not draw that much when there is no load, but a no-name charger?!?!? That’s when I’d like to be able to unplug it.
@marilyn80s Usually the socket clamping the plug leads will hold it in place. Howevert, pulling out a cord typically becomes a two handed (or one hand and one toe) operation, as you’ll probably need to press the adapter against the wall.
Serious question- what do you guys think of using either an older strip surge protector or a newer on where the receptacles turn to the side and then adding one of these surge protectors to one of the original surge protector outlets? See any electrical risks with that setup? I’ve seen standard surge protectors linked together…
@RiotDemon I’m 53 years old and last year was the first year I ever put up lights in my entire life. I used those Merkury Innovation outlets that Meh sold to monitor the energy usage.
All the lights took 7 watts total. LEDs are great for that purpose. However, with LED’s, depending on if you’re looking at them directly or off to the side, they do change brightness. And if you only have a half-wave rectifier (in the cheaper strands), then they have an obvious flicker.
Also with LEDs, I can use the 6000+ Kelvin bulbs so they don’t all look yellowish and dirty.
@cengland0 the only time I notice a flicker is if I’m moving them around. The brightness doesn’t seem to matter when you have a bunch of lights. My yard was ridiculously bright. I got a lot of compliments. When I was inside with the curtains closed, you’d think the sun was rising. I wish I had photos. My phone crashed before I uploaded them anywhere, apparently.
I have a friend that hates LEDs because they’re such a bright tone. He hates the bright white. They do make them in more traditional colors now. I thought my neighbor’s house looked dingy compared to mine. All my icicle lights looked the color of show while his looked like peed on snow.
@RiotDemon All the lights in my house are at least 6000K. I get mixed feedback. Most people really like it, and others say it’s too bright. Too bright? It’s the same brightness as any other color but doesn’t have that horrible yellow hew to them. Suppose some of those people that used to read books by candlelight expect all future lights to be the same color as their old candles.
So when I got outdoor lights for decoration, I also picked the 6000K versions. It look so crisp and clean. I like it. The other neighbors can have dirty yellow if they want but I’m not going back into the medieval period.
@cengland0 I’m torn on the inside of the house. I don’t like the daylight LEDs in my living room. They are too invigorating. For garage, kitchen, bathroom, definitely. In my living room I want to relax.