bought the 12 pack during the mehrathon. they’re ok. for 4 of them, i had to fiddle with the switch in order to get them to turn on at all. for 2 others, they’re very temperamental… the slightest jostle and they turn off. i say save your money and buy road flares instead.
yes, road flares. for whatever path you were going to light up. they’re much more welcoming than soft lighting.
With Irk’s endorsement, how can you not trust that these are the best solar powered yard lights there ever was or will be made. Opps, sorry. I have to remind myself this is not part of the campaign. But just know your neighbors are going to get these, because they are simply the best… Irk said so!!!
Bought these last time around, they didn’t work at all, light was anemic and they were dark an hour after sundown. Granted we’re in the Seattle area, so our daylight is also anemic.
@fry_dave I’m really starting to wonder, does ANYTHING ever work thats sold on here?! I happen to have had good luck with my “buys” from meh.com, but boy oh boy… Everyone eles seems to get duds!
@Lynnerizer I feel like the duds are pretty easy to pick out. There have been so many items that I’ve seen listed that I know are just going to suck. Yet weeks later, there are people posting non-stop about how horrible their purchase is. This is one of those items.
These things are not waterproof…maybe weatherproof. Water eventually finds its way inside the housing and corrodes the battery and circuit board. What I have taken to doing is disassembling them and coating all exposed electrical contacts and components with layers of hot glue, which forms a boundary that keeps moisture out. The plus side is these particular lights appear to have the glass solar cells, which don’t deteriorate in the sun like the domed plastic ones do. A possible downside is that these may use the 1/2 AA battery size, which are harder to find when they inevitably cycle out, compared to a more standard AA or AAA rechargeable cell.
@PooltoyWolf very good info, what voltage (chemistry) is the 1/2 AA battery? I’m seeing 1/2 AA LiIon for $3 each, which would make maintenance expensive!
@PooltoyWolf@rjluehrs That’s what I’ve found, too. These cells are not affordable to replace. That said, I bought these lights and they are fine for our purpose–lining a dark walkway in our back yard, but they are SUPER dim. The stainless steel posts are so thin they can easily buckle when pushing the stakes into the ground. I wouldn’t buy these again.
@PooltoyWolf@rjluehrs The most common circuit of years past used NiMh, nickel metal hydride. The circuit is much simpler and does not need a significant inductor.
These days, LiIon batteries are cheaper per watt-hour, much smaller, and much lighter than NiMh. The higher the frequency of the voltage converter, the smaller the inductor. Electronics are always getting cheaper and smaller. While capacitor based circuits are much more complex, complexity doesn’t matter if it is all internal to an IC.
Meh rarely sells products that were designed recently, so I don’t expect to see LiIon based solar path lighting for less than a dollar per light on here for a couple more years.
LiIon already rules in the more expensive market, where the lights put out tens of lumens each for half the night.
@Bumplepimp I’d gladly give up our state income tax in exchange for a revenue neutral sales tax that exempted food. And thereby, in addition to moving to a smarter consumption tax, completely eliminate the state income tax return with all its baggage.
@Bumplepimp@RedOak Moving to a sales tax versus an income tax is the opposite of how an economist would say you should go. Sales taxes are regressive. They’re disproportionately born by the poor because they end up spending a higher percentage of their income on taxes than a wealthier person does.
@petefm815 not any of the economists I respect. Exclude food as I indicated. Taxes in general are evil, but at least consumption taxes encourage saving, investment and jobs.
@petefm815@RedOak Guess we are diverging from cheap Chinese solar lights, but I think the “sales tax” fairness concept breaks down when the people with Mega-Wealth register their yachts and planes in offshore holdings rather than pay the $100sK in taxes in the states where they “reside.”
EDIT and that would buy a whole S-lot of cheap Chinese solar lights. Which apparently Meh stockpiled for some odd reason even though .14 more expensive than at the $ store.
@petefm815@RedOak In our case, We have neither, No sales or income tax. Just excessive property taxes. We do a lot of business with the bordering Socialist states.
@Bumplepimp@petefm815@RedOak There are states with state income tax that also have sales taxes higher than, for example, the state of Washington that has no state income tax (ranked #5 highest). And Florida also has no state income tax is much lower than Washington, also lower than my average state income tax (and we have state income tax too). FL is ranked #23.
As a result moving to a state with no state income tax might end up being cheaper in the long run for even the poorer people.
This map shows AVERAGE state and local combined sales tax. In my state our local sales tax is 1% higher than shown so I guess we are ‘above average’ for our state.
@petefm815@RedOak I too live in that state! Live Free…And yes, the property taxes are insane. Retail is the way to make money here. Cross boarder tax evaders are out Frenemies.
Specs
Note: There is a small switch in each light that needs to be turned on for light output (this can be left on).
What’s in the Box?
24x Eternal Living Solar Pathway Lights
Price Comparison
$65 at Amazon for 24 Pack
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Friday, Sep 17 - Tuesday, Sep 21
Who rebooted the server?
You need these solar lights to keep the server lights on meh
bought the 12 pack during the mehrathon. they’re ok. for 4 of them, i had to fiddle with the switch in order to get them to turn on at all. for 2 others, they’re very temperamental… the slightest jostle and they turn off. i say save your money and buy road flares instead.
yes, road flares. for whatever path you were going to light up. they’re much more welcoming than soft lighting.
With Irk’s endorsement, how can you not trust that these are the best solar powered yard lights there ever was or will be made. Opps, sorry. I have to remind myself this is not part of the campaign. But just know your neighbors are going to get these, because they are simply the best… Irk said so!!!
“Eternal Living Solar Pathway” sounds like some kind of fringe sun-worship religion.
@awk Founded by L. Ron Hubbard, no doubt.
@awk Praise Sol !
They are only about $3 more at Amazon. Meh indeed.
@artemaria That’s a 12 pack. These are 24
@artemaria @thiseye
Other nearly identical packs shown in the compare section are the same price as this for 24. And a 10% coupon
These seem to be a bit on the petite side. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
@mehcuda67 maybe for your doll house?
@mehcuda67 overall length 11-3/4” with stake.
And the light lasts how many hours? And the batteries are how many mah? And the light output is how many lumens?
@BIGRHAWQS And the batteries remain useful for how many cycles? (I learned this question from our solar path lights, which survived about 3 months.)
@BIGRHAWQS I bought the 12 pack. I’d say you are optimistic assuming plural for lumen output.
Bought these last time around, they didn’t work at all, light was anemic and they were dark an hour after sundown. Granted we’re in the Seattle area, so our daylight is also anemic.
@fry_dave I’m really starting to wonder, does ANYTHING ever work thats sold on here?! I happen to have had good luck with my “buys” from meh.com, but boy oh boy… Everyone eles seems to get duds!
@Lynnerizer I feel like the duds are pretty easy to pick out. There have been so many items that I’ve seen listed that I know are just going to suck. Yet weeks later, there are people posting non-stop about how horrible their purchase is. This is one of those items.
@fry_dave @Lynnerizer I’ve found the Stroopwafles work every time!
Are these much different from the dollar store solar lights? They’d only come to $24 for 24.
@braveit1 The lights themselves may not be exactly the same product, but the design, operating principle, and build quality are the same.
absolutely useless against vampires.
@alacrity
Because the stakes are plastic?
@chienfou precisely- and all they do is piss off werewolves as they’re only silver toned.
@alacrity @chienfou No, it’s because vampires don’t exist.
@alacrity They also aren’t effective against Frankenstein’s monster, since it’s LED rather than a an actual flaming torch.
@warpedrotors
These things are not waterproof…maybe weatherproof. Water eventually finds its way inside the housing and corrodes the battery and circuit board. What I have taken to doing is disassembling them and coating all exposed electrical contacts and components with layers of hot glue, which forms a boundary that keeps moisture out. The plus side is these particular lights appear to have the glass solar cells, which don’t deteriorate in the sun like the domed plastic ones do. A possible downside is that these may use the 1/2 AA battery size, which are harder to find when they inevitably cycle out, compared to a more standard AA or AAA rechargeable cell.
@PooltoyWolf informative/10
@PooltoyWolf very good info, what voltage (chemistry) is the 1/2 AA battery? I’m seeing 1/2 AA LiIon for $3 each, which would make maintenance expensive!
@PooltoyWolf @rjluehrs That’s what I’ve found, too. These cells are not affordable to replace. That said, I bought these lights and they are fine for our purpose–lining a dark walkway in our back yard, but they are SUPER dim. The stainless steel posts are so thin they can easily buckle when pushing the stakes into the ground. I wouldn’t buy these again.
@PooltoyWolf @rjluehrs The most common circuit of years past used NiMh, nickel metal hydride. The circuit is much simpler and does not need a significant inductor.
These days, LiIon batteries are cheaper per watt-hour, much smaller, and much lighter than NiMh. The higher the frequency of the voltage converter, the smaller the inductor. Electronics are always getting cheaper and smaller. While capacitor based circuits are much more complex, complexity doesn’t matter if it is all internal to an IC.
Meh rarely sells products that were designed recently, so I don’t expect to see LiIon based solar path lighting for less than a dollar per light on here for a couple more years.
LiIon already rules in the more expensive market, where the lights put out tens of lumens each for half the night.
@dvermilion Thanks haha
@rjluehrs The (extremely similar) lights I have actually use Westinghouse-branded 2/3 AA nickel-cadmium (Ni-Cd) cells.
@rjluehrs I made a mistake, they are actually 2/3 AA, not 1/2 AA! 1.2 volts each, not 3.6. They should be Ni-Cd cells (nickel cadmium).
@PooltoyWolf EDIT: I misremembered; these use 2/3 AA batteries, not 1/2 AA! The 2/3 AA cells are 1.2 volt nickel-cadmium (Ni-Cd) cells.
I have these. Junk. But on the plus side, they are mostly aluminum so they may be recyclable.
/giphy lavender-meek-oven
These type of light are good for camping. You put them next to the tent ropes and stakes.
That way, you know which tent rope you just tripped over in the dark.
And the light output is not enough to keep you awake, if you need total darkness to sleep.
The ones I got somewhere else are literally 1 lumen (luman?), at $10 for 14. Two don’t work. No switches on my bitches.
Oh, goodie, 24 more things to trim around.
Well thanks to the PG93944 rating I can’t buy them. I am a little younger than 93944 and my parents are dead.
Um…They sell these at the Dollar Store for…$1 everyday.
And We don’t live in one of those filthy states with the queer “sales tax”
@Bumplepimp I’d gladly give up our state income tax in exchange for a revenue neutral sales tax that exempted food. And thereby, in addition to moving to a smarter consumption tax, completely eliminate the state income tax return with all its baggage.
@Bumplepimp @RedOak Moving to a sales tax versus an income tax is the opposite of how an economist would say you should go. Sales taxes are regressive. They’re disproportionately born by the poor because they end up spending a higher percentage of their income on taxes than a wealthier person does.
@petefm815 not any of the economists I respect. Exclude food as I indicated. Taxes in general are evil, but at least consumption taxes encourage saving, investment and jobs.
@petefm815 @RedOak Guess we are diverging from cheap Chinese solar lights, but I think the “sales tax” fairness concept breaks down when the people with Mega-Wealth register their yachts and planes in offshore holdings rather than pay the $100sK in taxes in the states where they “reside.”
EDIT and that would buy a whole S-lot of cheap Chinese solar lights. Which apparently Meh stockpiled for some odd reason even though .14 more expensive than at the $ store.
@petefm815 @RedOak In our case, We have neither, No sales or income tax. Just excessive property taxes. We do a lot of business with the bordering Socialist states.
@Bumplepimp property taxes are nefarious in that you never truly own your property - stop paying and see how long you own it.
The sales tax is the least evil.
@Bumplepimp @petefm815 @RedOak There are states with state income tax that also have sales taxes higher than, for example, the state of Washington that has no state income tax (ranked #5 highest). And Florida also has no state income tax is much lower than Washington, also lower than my average state income tax (and we have state income tax too). FL is ranked #23.
As a result moving to a state with no state income tax might end up being cheaper in the long run for even the poorer people.
This map shows AVERAGE state and local combined sales tax. In my state our local sales tax is 1% higher than shown so I guess we are ‘above average’ for our state.
https://opportunitywa.org/washingtons-combined-state-local-sales-tax-rate-ranks-5th-in-the-nation/
@petefm815 @RedOak I too live in that state! Live Free…And yes, the property taxes are insane. Retail is the way to make money here. Cross boarder tax evaders are out Frenemies.
See reviews here (not so good)
I bought these to light the driveway to avoid going into the lawn. They are bright enough for me to see the driveway clearly