@tinsami1 I was actually surprised by the intensity of flicker. I can easily navigate a blacked-out room when I’m pretending to steal idols from my liquor cabinet…
@Funkthulhu Yes, Funky, How Many Lumens Are Each? I need to know before I committ, Please!! So, Please, Let Me Know As Soon As Possible!! I’m As Serious As A Heart-Attack!!
I think they spaced the L I reasonably on the package, but at first glance it still reads “SOLAR FUCKER” to me, at least on a phone sized screen. Maybe my mind’s just in the gutter.
@awk wow, I didn’t see the final touch caption for the longest time because I’m just looking at the picture thinking “why would a company name their product anal touch?”
@nolrak- Just Tell Me What You Need & I’ll Buy It For You, Boodro! All I Need’s Your Real Name, Address, Fone #, SSN, Date of Birth, Ckng Acct #, Banking Pin # & Are You A US Citizen + Have You Ever Been Arrested!!
@rustyh3@username- Me Too- I Vote, ‘YES’,…Wait, I Vote, ‘HELL, YES’! No, Wait,…I Will Vote, ‘Hell, Fn Flickering, Yes’!! Wait,… Nevermind, I Vote, ‘No’! Wait,…Make That—
And they even have mostly 5 stars… what is meh coming to? Also when the rechargeable battery in them finally dies just put a new one in and you are good to go for another year.
@phendrick-Well, Phen, you won’t really need the shade @ nite, so…better yet, just simply cut the shade trees down, use them for fire wood & dilemma solved! Aren’t me a Genius? You’re Welcome!
C’mon Meh… enough with this garbage. I’m seriously considering cancelling my VMP. These past few weeks\months have been one pathetic offering after another. You’re on notice. Please step it up!
@kalfaz you can never reinstitute it so don’t do that. if there’s 1 worthwhile thing a month, vmp’s paid for itself. even if it’s just a “boring” item like batteries or gum, 3% of the items are easily worth buying.
@iPooOnUFirstMeh@kalfaz@nolrak Or you may get a poorly padded bottle of Poo-Pouri shipped to you so that you eternally attract the opprobrium of your mail carrier, neighbors and anyone else affected by the ensuing olfactory disaster.
Fast forward past the woman’s horrible review to about 2:55 to see what the flicker looks like. I am assuming these use the same elements as they look the same. The ones on this video are the model I have.
Regarding the copy text, is meh offering to invent us a time machine for only $3.5 million? Am I the only one who is vastly more interested in that than these (admittedly pretty cool) lights?
@G1 You’re correct and sorry for any confusion - we meant to have a “for similar” tag in the comparison. I’ve just revised the link to what @Kerig3 suggested. Thanks @Kerig3!
I was going to buy these till I seen the 90-day warranty that’s not even one full season so although I like these they look nice and I actually need them I’m going to pass okay count the months July August September and breaks in October you’re done totally unacceptable warranty if the lights last 10,000 hours why is the warranty only 90 days
@mellowirishgent It may be that these are really old and the rechargeable battery inside is near the end of its life. Of course all you’d have to do is replace the battery. I’ve done that with solar lights.
After seeing the Amazon videos I’m going to reconsider and buy 4 however they have a 12-month manufacturers on Amazon so@90 days I’m just suspecting that the batteries are very old and that’s why this is a deep discount but I’m going to try them
@goldnectar Similar situation for me. I really do kinda want them. I just can’t really figure out a useful placement for them with my current apartment situation.
Mine didn’t work right out of the box Apparently no charge left. Time to find a USB plug and port to charge them; only about half hour of light left today, and it’s been mostly hazy anyway.
Update: even sadder – these don’t have a USB plug for non-solar charging like the reference ones at Amazon did. Seems like I noticed that at the time I ordered, and then forgot. Guess I will have to wait for sunrise in the A.M.
@eonfifty@RiotDemon
But did just notice:
If you assemble both with extender rods but with only one ground stake inserted, you can join them together and have a nice baton. Can’t wait to have these charged up and try my (non-existent) cheerleader skills tomorrow night. (Maybe I should wait until all the neighbors have gone to bed…)
Are these warrantied against being flung and dropped and crashing against the driveway?
@eonfifty I’d have to haul a full-body mirror outside to do that video. Or, easier, do a selfie in the bathroom mirror with the lights off.
You want with or without clothes for the bathroom selfie? Without seems to be the current meme, from what I see (pun intended) of various celebrities. Consider carefully before you answer, I’m past middle age.
I just received my order yesterday and they’re NOT what was listed in the specs. According to the specs listed:
Product Name: 2-Pack: Solar Powered Flickering Flame Torch Lights
Model: WMTT20010
Condition: New
Lights: 97 LEDs
LED Lifespan: 50,000 hours
Material: ABS + PC
Height: 30.7"-42.9"
Solar Panel: 0.88W, 20% efficiency
Li-ion Battery (included): 3.7V 2200maH
Solar Charging Time: 8 hours
Duration of Use: Light up 10 hours in summer and 5 hours in winter, after full charge
On/Off light control
Easy installation, no wiring needed
Weather Resistant: IP65 Waterproof and Durable
What I got was similar in design, but with only a 400 mAh batteries not a 2200mAh Li-ion battery. Additionally 33 SMDs not 97 LEDs (I really don’t know what an “SDM” is). Finally, the ones I received are only 23" tall, max (top to bottom of the stake that goes into the ground) not the 30.7"-42.9" advertised. These are really tiny and hardly a “torch” but more a garden stake. The model number on the box matches the description above, but the instructions in the box tell the specs of the actual contents.
Anyone else receive these tiny, underpowered lamps?
Had I known these had dollar-store quality rechargeable batteries and barely came to my knee (and I’m only 5’6") I would never have bought them! The “design” is the same as the photos, but under 2 feet tall…really??? They’re certainly not what I paid for or what was advertised.
@Kerig3 interesting. Mine are supposed to arrive today. I will post my specs when they do. Also:
SMD means surface mounted diode. This is a better technology than the first generation DIP LEDs. The SMD type LEDs are mounted on an aluminum substrate and enveloped in an epoxy resin.
@Kerig3@RiotDemon Actually, SMD stands for Surface Mounted Device. It’s in contrast to the old circuit board design with through hole devices. SMD is not just for LED’s but can be for resistors, capacitors, ICs, connectors and all sorts of other things.
@Kerig3@summetj@cengland0@RiotDemon -
I’ve tracked down some info.
The item you received is the item we sold. The photos and comparison links were correct.
The specs had some errors that appear to be from a similar, but different height/etc. version of this one.
I’ve updated the specs to reflect the corrections.
don’t really flicker as much as the simply go up and down rapidly. Kinda silly looking, IMO.
I’m waiting to see what they look like at night, but when I pulled them from the box, I agree with you. I watched the videos from the comparison, and those do look nicer.
@RiotDemon@Thumperchick My box looks the same, but unfortunately I didn’t go by the measurements on the pictures, I went by the “see more product specs link” from the main page, and it was there that the erroneous info was listed. (now corrected). Maybe it’s just my thing, but I usually use that product specs at the top of this page as the complete specs since it’s always had much more info there. Was it my fault that the specs above didn’t match the photos? I dunno, but I sure feel like a dummy in hindsight…
@Kerig3@RiotDemon I tried to answer this question in the other thread before it got locked, but you beat me to it LOL. SMD actually stands for surface mounted device; it’s a general term that describes any component on a circuit board that isn’t through-hole mounted (soldered from the opposite side). The main advantage is obviously less space used. A downside is they’re a right pain in the rear to replace.
@Kerig3@RiotDemon@Thumperchick Also, 6500K is nowhere near the color temperature of a flickering flame or candle. That’s daylight, very blue-toned! A flame would be much warmer, even more so than an incandescent bulb, probably below 2500K.
@PooltoyWolf Inside my house, I only use bulbs that are 6000K to 6500K. Love it. Get lots of compliments from friends and neighbors saying how “bright” my house looks. It’s not bright but it’s very white. It looks clean and sterile like a doctor’s office using that color temperature. But it would make sense for flickering flame lights to be around 2500K.
6000-6500K color is hard to find (or more expensive) because it seems the more popular bulb is 2500K to 3000K with homeowners. I don’t know why people prefer yellow dingy bulbs in this century. We aren’t living by candlelight any longer and I don’t want my bulbs making it seem like I’m still in the renaissance.
@cengland0@PooltoyWolf I like the warmer temperatures in my living room because it’s relaxing. Daylight bulbs are too invigorating when I want to chill.
@cengland0@PooltoyWolf I also like 5000K and 5500K lighting, but i use it mostly for my bathroom and work areas.
For any living areas like bedroom and living room, 3000K is popular because it’s more warm and cozy, giving primordial responses to being near a campfire.
That, and i guess some people associate 5000K+ with the florescent lighting found at their workplaces and want to disassociate or get away from that lighting. Can’t blame them
@cengland0 Finally, a light bulb connoisseur after my own heart! I also greatly prefer the cool white color temperature bulbs. Makes it easier to see everything in its proper natural tones, and is great for work environments, too. Plus, I just like cool white. I will use warmer bulbs where historically accurate, though.
@PooltoyWolf Thanks for your comment as I was starting to feel alone here. I don’t know how women could put on their makeup with yellow tinted lights and think it’s going to look the same when they go outside.
Everyone I convert to 6000-6500K, they talk more about how bright their room is and how easy it is to see things. Weird considering the lumens are the same, it’s just the color that’s different.
I’ve only had one person try the daylight color and then go back to warm. I think his old-fashioned wife made him change back but he gave me all his daylight bulbs that he bought so that was a win for me.
@cengland0 I haven’t yet had to resort to buying all my cool white bulbs online, and it actually seems like some stores are starting to carry a wider selection of them. They were kind of hard to find in CFL bulbs, but LED ones are easier to locate. I find that just swapping from warm white to cool white can even make a room or space appear larger.
Man are these junky. I disassembled them with the intention of upgrading the puny AA nimh battery.
Don’t bother. The battery compartment is glued shut with epoxy and the battery is soldered into the circuit. Not exactly an easy field replacement.
@nostrom0 Thanks for reporting this. The ones listed at the Amazon link even have a micro-USB port for recharging. I should have saved my money for Amazon.
What the hey?!? I ordered them because the specs said: “Li-ion Battery (included): 3.7V 2200maH” and I figured “oh hey, much better than the regular NIMH AA batteries that these type of things normally come with”.
BUT, the ones I got, have “Battery: NI-MH 400 mAh (included)” on the side of the box.
400 mAh is not the same as 2200 mAh!
@mellowirishgent Because 400 mAh NIMH batteries typically don’t last very long, while a 2200 mAh Li-Ion battery is more likely to last for a while.
I paid for the specifications listed on the page (I wouldn’t have bought them if I knew they were 400 mAh NIMH batteries), not for a mediocre substitute product. If you can’t trust the specifications on the product page, how can you justifying order anything?
@summetj Exactly! I wouldn’t have bothered to buy them had I known they had the same innards as the solar lights you can get at the dollar store. I have enough experience with those to know they’re only worth a buck since they rarely last a summer. I was expecting something that would last at least a few years. I also feel cheated, and I bought 2 sets as gifts for others… they’ll think I’ve been shopping for them at the dollar store.
@Kerig3 Oh for fuck’s sake. meh screwed the pooch here, but going on about the gifts is just piling on. Prove you’re not a cheapskate and get them some tikis from Target or something. Sheese.
@Kerig3@therealjrn I’m usually rooting for Meh but I’d have to agree with Kerig3 here. They have a reasonable expectation that the detailed specifications of a product shown on the page will accurately reflect the actual product being sold. From what I have read above in this thread, the ‘resolution’ was that the product was correct according to the photos, but the description/specs were incorrect and have since been changed. I would think that a refund, at the least, is in order for those customers who feel the product they received was not the same as the one described…which is the case here. The height and battery type & capacities alone are markedly different.
@PooltoyWolf I think you’re misunderstanding the solution, PTW. So they fixed the specs after the sale? That’s not the solution.
The solution is to send the shit back for a refund. Period. I have not seen one single post denying anyone a complete refund.
Going on about how your standing in the community is damaged because you don’t have a suitable gift is just silly.
I’m sorry for jumping your shit and I apologize @Kerig3. I’d be annoyed if you gave me these shitty lanterns too. You’d probably see them again at the next gift exchange.
@Kerig3@PooltoyWolf@therealjrn They listed them with one Amazon page, I asked on 7/20 if they were the right ones, they changed to page to something sorta closer, then shipped a bad knock-off.
Mine came today as well. I did a test indoors and they all worked, but as mentioned above the “flickering” looked like a jumping up-and-down motion with no randomness to be seen that you’d get with real flames. I’ll see what they’re like tonight but I’m expecting to be disappointed…
@Bandrik Update. All 6 indeed turned on at dusk and seem to be operating fine. I got them for my parents and both of them liked them a lot.
The artificially rhythmic “flickering” didn’t seem to bother them, so i guess that’s a moot point. I’ll just teach my brain that it’s retro videogame styled where fire had 2-3 frames of repeating animation.
The flickering is disappointing. Maybe if they had the original 96 LEDs per instead of the 33 SMDs they would look better. I have an artificial flame lightbulb that was cheaper than these individual lights and it looks way nicer.
I tried to take video last night. I’ll see if I can upload it later.
These things are complete shit. They’re barely a foot high and everything about them is chintzy. One of them arrived completely smashed from the poor padding that didn’t protect it during transit.
The product comparisons we were provided looked like the 4x LED tikis I bought off Amazon for $70, which are phenomenal. These are about a third of their height with smaller lighting units. It doesn’t do any good to update the comparison specs after the sale.
I’m currently charging the un-crushed one in the backyard to see how it looks tonight — if it even turns on.
@sparkle_motion Quick update: Yes, it did turn on. And, yes, the “flicker” is just as shitty as everything else about these things. Instead of being a soothing flame-like dance, it’s just an up/down effect that’s more likely to induce a feeling of seasickness.
@sparkle_motion I sat outside last night and watched these for awhile, and I agree with you that the “flickering” can be nauseating, but when you think of them as accent pieces to your surroundings (i.e. not a feature thing – just something interesting to stick somewhere to make that somewhere a little different), they’re not so bad.
/giphy don’t stare at them
Another disappointed customer (for the same reasons detailed above). Appropriate that they showed up the same day as my Poo-Pourri order (without the pourri part). On a positive note: The Poo-Pourri didn’t leak.
Follow up very bright looks like a real torch stays on full nite disappointed on the height about 18 inch from top to bottom after spike is inserted worth the 7 bucks each yes
I am very disappointed in the product I received. Not as advertised. I don’t typically try to read the photo of the product box when I’m reviewing product specs online.
There’s a little voice in my head. It sounds like the chanting at a Trump campaign rally.
If you’re bummed about your lanterns, yell at meh.
If you’re dislike that they’re shorter, yell at meh.
If you’re pissed off and you know it, and you really wanna show it; if you’re mad about the lanterns write support.
Really folks - if you need help with your order, please send a message to customer support by clicking “I need help with this” from your order page, or from our Support Form.
We’re here, you’ll spot us if you look for the 97 33 LED SMD, flickering flashing solar lights.
Mine never arrived. I contacted Meh and they told me to find out what happened. I buy from someone and the order doesn’t come, the seller needs to figure out why. Won’t order from Meh again.
Specs
97 LEDs33 SMDsLED Lifespan: 50,000 hours30.7"-42.9"12.75" - 23"Li-ion 3.7V 2200maHNI-MH AA 400mAhWhat’s in the Box?
Price Comparison
$24.95 (for similar) at Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, July 13th - Thursday, July 16th
Does the girl in the leopard print bikini come with them?
@jsh139
you get whoever’s available
@awk @jsh139 beggers can’t be choosers
@awk
@jsh139, Yes, for an extra $375 Billion + Shp & Hndlng!
I think mum just bought me last year’s model for the tiki bar… they flicker good?
@Funkthulhu How bright/dim are they?
@tinsami1 I was actually surprised by the intensity of flicker. I can easily navigate a blacked-out room when I’m pretending to steal idols from my liquor cabinet…
@Funkthulhu @tinsami1 I think the blacking out comes after you’ve stolen enough “idols” from the liquor cabinet
@Funkthulhu Yes, Funky, How Many Lumens Are Each? I need to know before I committ, Please!! So, Please, Let Me Know As Soon As Possible!! I’m As Serious As A Heart-Attack!!
Finally, I can be ecologically responsible and persecute Frankenstein’s monster for being different from me!
@Rowsdower-Pleeze,Don’t Forget The Hoe & Sickle!!
Don’t write the product name in all caps in a tightly kerned typeface or your retail packaging will doom your product.
Also, I don’t need any flickering lights but I could use 4x Extend Pipe, so maybe in for a 2 pack?
@djslack
In before you fix the typo, because I think we could all use some fuckering lights
@nolrak you got me.
I think they spaced the L I reasonably on the package, but at first glance it still reads “SOLAR FUCKER” to me, at least on a phone sized screen. Maybe my mind’s just in the gutter.
@djslack
/image wig and pen is open
/image message therapist kerning
@djslack yeah I guess I could see that … Ain’t kerning a bitch?
@awk I thought that might have been a really niche merkin shoppe…
/image pen is broken kerning
/image click lovers kerning
/image final touch kerning
@awk wow, I didn’t see the final touch caption for the longest time because I’m just looking at the picture thinking “why would a company name their product anal touch?”
Awesome!
POKER! JOKER! NOT MEDIOCRE! AWESOME!
@djslack-Okay! Just Do It!!
Damnit Meh, I thought we’d been over this – stop selling cool shit that I want to buy
@nolrak- Just Tell Me What You Need & I’ll Buy It For You, Boodro! All I Need’s Your Real Name, Address, Fone #, SSN, Date of Birth, Ckng Acct #, Banking Pin # & Are You A US Citizen + Have You Ever Been Arrested!!
So should I cancel my order from morningsave for these that I just placed??
@username yes, if it’s more there
@username I vote “yes”.
@rustyh3 @username- Me Too- I Vote, ‘YES’,…Wait, I Vote, ‘HELL, YES’! No, Wait,…I Will Vote, ‘Hell, Fn Flickering, Yes’!! Wait,… Nevermind, I Vote, ‘No’! Wait,…Make That—
Spike refuses to be grounded
@nolrak Spike is also playing pocket pool.
@megev0 @nolrak pocket carry
Can I take one of these to tribal council?
@phendrick Yes, Phen & You Can Take Them To The Next tRump Rant Rally!! Just Do It!
And they even have mostly 5 stars… what is meh coming to? Also when the rechargeable battery in them finally dies just put a new one in and you are good to go for another year.
@Kidsandliz+ they’re Solar too!!
@decoratedwarvet Yes but the solar power needs stored in a battery so they use a rechargeable one.
Seriously, if I have shade trees lining my front sidewalk, I shouldn’t expect these to work very well there?
@phendrick how about adding a series of carefully placed mirrors to direct beams of sunlight onto the solar cells?
@djslack Hey, if it was good enough for Archimedes…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes#/media/File:Archimedes_Heat_Ray_conceptual_diagram.svg
@phendrick-Well, Phen, you won’t really need the shade @ nite, so…better yet, just simply cut the shade trees down, use them for fire wood & dilemma solved! Aren’t me a Genius? You’re Welcome!
C’mon Meh… enough with this garbage. I’m seriously considering cancelling my VMP. These past few weeks\months have been one pathetic offering after another. You’re on notice. Please step it up!
@kalfaz but are you willing to live with Poo next to your user name if you cancel?
@iPooOnUFirstMeh @kalfaz I believe the new policy is that you receive a literal box of poo if you cancel
@kalfaz you can never reinstitute it so don’t do that. if there’s 1 worthwhile thing a month, vmp’s paid for itself. even if it’s just a “boring” item like batteries or gum, 3% of the items are easily worth buying.
@iPooOnUFirstMeh @kalfaz @nolrak Or you may get a poorly padded bottle of Poo-Pouri shipped to you so that you eternally attract the opprobrium of your mail carrier, neighbors and anyone else affected by the ensuing olfactory disaster.
@iPooOnUFirstMeh @kalfaz @nolrak+ you receive threats, Hate mail & an invitation to a tRump Ralley, oh…& a MAGA baseball-cap,… Free!!
5318008 is robot language for … Oh, never mind
I am debating buying or not buying…would you call that bio-flickering?
@givemehdeal no no, bio-fuckering
According to Amazon, these shits can turn a summer day into a winter night? Sold
@nolrak looks like they also remove pools if you’re in need of that kind of service.
Two feet high flickering torches? Who puts flames in reach of toddlers? Yes, but next time they could be real flames.
So I guess I’ll just go to finance in Monday and have them transfer half my paycheck directly to Meh from now on?
/giphy undersized-wooden-fern
Nice try being a real marketing company Meh. The beautiful model made me look twice and actually consider buying. But then I remembered this is Meh.
My wife has been saying she wanted to put a set of dickering lights around the pool, so she should be happy now!
/giphy turquoise withering gopher
@VogonPoet
/giphy dickering
I’ve owned a set of these for three years and they’re still working great. Highly recommend them, good sale, meh!
@revloki how does the flicker look? Realistic?
@RiotDemon
Fast forward past the woman’s horrible review to about 2:55 to see what the flicker looks like. I am assuming these use the same elements as they look the same. The ones on this video are the model I have.
@revloki thanks!
Regarding the copy text, is meh offering to invent us a time machine for only $3.5 million? Am I the only one who is vastly more interested in that than these (admittedly pretty cool) lights?
These don’t look like the Amazon link, and I don’t just mean the “grill” pattern.
Are they the same “upgraded” ones that is getting raves on Amazon?
I should add, the Amazon pics look like they’re magic.
@G1 They probably should have used this Amazon product link. Still good deal, but slightly less so.
@G1 @Kerig3 Theses are not the same size (smaller) as the great ones sold on amazon. Quality is good though.
@G1 You’re correct and sorry for any confusion - we meant to have a “for similar” tag in the comparison. I’ve just revised the link to what @Kerig3 suggested. Thanks @Kerig3!
This is very Meh. a solared powered flash-inglight.
It’s a miracle! Meh is selling something that actually has good Amazon reviews. Like, fully excellent 4.5 star reviews.
/buy
@Dizavid It worked! Your order number is: talented-haggard-bard
/image talented haggard bard
Wow. This is some random shit. Meh is back on course.
I don’t know why I’m so addicted to flickering flame like objects. I’ve wanted lights like this for a while. I hope they meet my expectations.
/giphy reflective jerky carpenter
/image reflective jerky carpenter
@RiotDemon Perhaps you were a moth in a past life.
Seems like a good deal to me! In for 3 sets of 2!
I was going to buy these till I seen the 90-day warranty that’s not even one full season so although I like these they look nice and I actually need them I’m going to pass okay count the months July August September and breaks in October you’re done totally unacceptable warranty if the lights last 10,000 hours why is the warranty only 90 days
@mellowirishgent that’s 89 days longer than I’d expect
@mellowirishgent
/image you’re new here aren’t you
@Bandrik yeah im 5 years new and almost 200 purchases here in for 2 sets and how new are you lil phoenix
@mellowirishgent It may be that these are really old and the rechargeable battery inside is near the end of its life. Of course all you’d have to do is replace the battery. I’ve done that with solar lights.
@mellowirishgent I get the mellow now!
After seeing the Amazon videos I’m going to reconsider and buy 4 however they have a 12-month manufacturers on Amazon so@90 days I’m just suspecting that the batteries are very old and that’s why this is a deep discount but I’m going to try them
@mellowirishgent Note that the amazon link has changed – ours were similar to the last ones, but closer in looks to the current link.
/giphy deeply-nominal-drake
/giphy poor-demonic-hammer
Y’all are prolly gonna need one of these Bluetooth speakers to complete the tiki atmosphere, innit? Thirty bucks over at the other place.
Ok, we have ideas
/buy
@Seeds It worked! Your order number is: granular-contagious-dolphin
/image granular contagious dolphin
/giphy granular contagious dolphin
@Seeds You gotta spend all that watermelon money somewhere.
@therealjrn watermelon money? Is that what I get when I figure out what to do with all the watermelon in my freezer?
The more I research these, the more I want them. I just can’t think of a sunny place to put them.
@goldnectar Similar situation for me. I really do kinda want them. I just can’t really figure out a useful placement for them with my current apartment situation.
@goldnectar Then…put 'em where the sun don’t shine.
Sorry…it was just too tempting.
/giphy orange ocular fang
I got mine today, and they work right out of the box (if you make them think it’s dark). They should look pretty cool at night.
/giphy cool at night
@eonfifty already? So quick!
@RiotDemon Yep. I always get fast shipments from Meh.
@eonfifty I didn’t realize they shipped yet. Looks like they shipped 3 days after the sale. Fast!
@eonfifty @RiotDemon …and got mine today! What is the meh world coming to?
Mine didn’t work right out of the box
Apparently no charge left. Time to find a USB plug and port to charge them; only about half hour of light left today, and it’s been mostly hazy anyway.
Update: even sadder – these don’t have a USB plug for non-solar charging like the reference ones at Amazon did. Seems like I noticed that at the time I ordered, and then forgot. Guess I will have to wait for sunrise in the A.M.
@eonfifty @phendrick @RiotDemon Yep. Plug in that USB cable and charge up them 97 LED’s!
(There is no USB. Nor are there 97 LEDs.)
@eonfifty @RiotDemon
But did just notice:
If you assemble both with extender rods but with only one ground stake inserted, you can join them together and have a nice baton. Can’t wait to have these charged up and try my (non-existent) cheerleader skills tomorrow night. (Maybe I should wait until all the neighbors have gone to bed…)
Are these warrantied against being flung and dropped and crashing against the driveway?
@phendrick @RiotDemon Here’s a couple of action shots, but they don’t do much to show off the flickering.
@phendrick I tried that, and it works really well! I didn’t get too fancy though, but they seem pretty tough and could probably handle a few drops.
@eonfifty Where’s the vid of your twirling?
@phendrick I’ll post it tonight after it gets dark and you have posted yours
@eonfifty @phendrick @RiotDemon
@cinoclav @eonfifty @RiotDemon That looks a little inane and dangerous; if you swing it at someone, you could divvy up your own torso.
@eonfifty I’d have to haul a full-body mirror outside to do that video. Or, easier, do a selfie in the bathroom mirror with the lights off.
You want with or without clothes for the bathroom selfie? Without seems to be the current meme, from what I see (pun intended) of various celebrities. Consider carefully before you answer, I’m past middle age.
@cinoclav @phendrick @RiotDemon You just have to be extra good with the force.
@phendrick
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You decide. I’m sure it’ll come out like @therealjrn’s .gif
Ok fine. Take my money…
/buy
Sounds like a good gift idea so …
/buy
@JT954 It worked! Your order number is: shocking-striped-act
/image shocking striped act
( docile-smart-centaur ) you light up my life, Flickr me Trimbles…
I just received my order yesterday and they’re NOT what was listed in the specs. According to the specs listed:
Product Name: 2-Pack: Solar Powered Flickering Flame Torch Lights
Model: WMTT20010
Condition: New
Lights: 97 LEDs
LED Lifespan: 50,000 hours
Material: ABS + PC
Height: 30.7"-42.9"
Solar Panel: 0.88W, 20% efficiency
Li-ion Battery (included): 3.7V 2200maH
Solar Charging Time: 8 hours
Duration of Use: Light up 10 hours in summer and 5 hours in winter, after full charge
On/Off light control
Easy installation, no wiring needed
Weather Resistant: IP65 Waterproof and Durable
What I got was similar in design, but with only a 400 mAh batteries not a 2200mAh Li-ion battery. Additionally 33 SMDs not 97 LEDs (I really don’t know what an “SDM” is). Finally, the ones I received are only 23" tall, max (top to bottom of the stake that goes into the ground) not the 30.7"-42.9" advertised. These are really tiny and hardly a “torch” but more a garden stake.
The model number on the box matches the description above, but the instructions in the box tell the specs of the actual contents.
Anyone else receive these tiny, underpowered lamps?
Had I known these had dollar-store quality rechargeable batteries and barely came to my knee (and I’m only 5’6") I would never have bought them! The “design” is the same as the photos, but under 2 feet tall…really??? They’re certainly not what I paid for or what was advertised.
I should also mention, the “33 SMDs”
don’t really flicker as much as the simply go up and down rapidly. Kinda silly looking, IMO. 
@Kerig3 interesting. Mine are supposed to arrive today. I will post my specs when they do. Also:
@Kerig3 can you post a pic of what you received?
@Kerig3 @Thumperchick
@Kerig3 @RiotDemon Looks like the photos we have up matched the item shipped:
Checking on the specs and product details now.
@Kerig3 @RiotDemon Actually, SMD stands for Surface Mounted Device. It’s in contrast to the old circuit board design with through hole devices. SMD is not just for LED’s but can be for resistors, capacitors, ICs, connectors and all sorts of other things.
TLDR: The “D” stands for Device, not Diode.
@Kerig3 Same here, I got the 400 mAh battery and 23" total height as well.
@Kerig3 @summetj send a message to customer support by clicking “I need help with this” from your order page, or from our Support Form.
@Kerig3 @Thumperchick
I submitted a customer support request.
@Kerig3 @summetj @cengland0 @RiotDemon -
I’ve tracked down some info.
The item you received is the item we sold. The photos and comparison links were correct.
The specs had some errors that appear to be from a similar, but different height/etc. version of this one.
I’ve updated the specs to reflect the corrections.
@cengland0 @Kerig3 @RiotDemon @summetj @Thumperchick
/giphy can of worms
@Kerig3
I’m waiting to see what they look like at night, but when I pulled them from the box, I agree with you. I watched the videos from the comparison, and those do look nicer.
@RiotDemon @Thumperchick My box looks the same, but unfortunately I didn’t go by the measurements on the pictures, I went by the “see more product specs link” from the main page, and it was there that the erroneous info was listed. (now corrected). Maybe it’s just my thing, but I usually use that product specs at the top of this page as the complete specs since it’s always had much more info there. Was it my fault that the specs above didn’t match the photos? I dunno, but I sure feel like a dummy in hindsight…
@Kerig3 @RiotDemon I tried to answer this question in the other thread before it got locked, but you beat me to it LOL. SMD actually stands for surface mounted device; it’s a general term that describes any component on a circuit board that isn’t through-hole mounted (soldered from the opposite side). The main advantage is obviously less space used. A downside is they’re a right pain in the rear to replace.
@cengland0 @Kerig3 @RiotDemon Damn, beaten again! XD
@Kerig3 @RiotDemon @Thumperchick Also, 6500K is nowhere near the color temperature of a flickering flame or candle. That’s daylight, very blue-toned! A flame would be much warmer, even more so than an incandescent bulb, probably below 2500K.
@PooltoyWolf Inside my house, I only use bulbs that are 6000K to 6500K. Love it. Get lots of compliments from friends and neighbors saying how “bright” my house looks. It’s not bright but it’s very white. It looks clean and sterile like a doctor’s office using that color temperature. But it would make sense for flickering flame lights to be around 2500K.
6000-6500K color is hard to find (or more expensive) because it seems the more popular bulb is 2500K to 3000K with homeowners. I don’t know why people prefer yellow dingy bulbs in this century. We aren’t living by candlelight any longer and I don’t want my bulbs making it seem like I’m still in the renaissance.
@cengland0 @PooltoyWolf I like the warmer temperatures in my living room because it’s relaxing. Daylight bulbs are too invigorating when I want to chill.
@cengland0 @PooltoyWolf I also like 5000K and 5500K lighting, but i use it mostly for my bathroom and work areas.
For any living areas like bedroom and living room, 3000K is popular because it’s more warm and cozy, giving primordial responses to being near a campfire.
That, and i guess some people associate 5000K+ with the florescent lighting found at their workplaces and want to disassociate or get away from that lighting. Can’t blame them
@cengland0 Finally, a light bulb connoisseur after my own heart! I also greatly prefer the cool white color temperature bulbs. Makes it easier to see everything in its proper natural tones, and is great for work environments, too. Plus, I just like cool white. I will use warmer bulbs where historically accurate, though.
@PooltoyWolf Thanks for your comment as I was starting to feel alone here. I don’t know how women could put on their makeup with yellow tinted lights and think it’s going to look the same when they go outside.
Everyone I convert to 6000-6500K, they talk more about how bright their room is and how easy it is to see things. Weird considering the lumens are the same, it’s just the color that’s different.
I’ve only had one person try the daylight color and then go back to warm. I think his old-fashioned wife made him change back but he gave me all his daylight bulbs that he bought so that was a win for me.
@cengland0 I haven’t yet had to resort to buying all my cool white bulbs online, and it actually seems like some stores are starting to carry a wider selection of them. They were kind of hard to find in CFL bulbs, but LED ones are easier to locate. I find that just swapping from warm white to cool white can even make a room or space appear larger.
These arrived yesterday, early in the afternoon so they only had a partial day to charge. They stayed lit all night.
@tkocka Aww, just like my uncle Joe!
Man are these junky. I disassembled them with the intention of upgrading the puny AA nimh battery.
Don’t bother. The battery compartment is glued shut with epoxy and the battery is soldered into the circuit. Not exactly an easy field replacement.
@nostrom0 Thanks for reporting this. The ones listed at the Amazon link even have a micro-USB port for recharging. I should have saved my money for Amazon.
What the hey?!? I ordered them because the specs said: “Li-ion Battery (included): 3.7V 2200maH” and I figured “oh hey, much better than the regular NIMH AA batteries that these type of things normally come with”.
BUT, the ones I got, have “Battery: NI-MH 400 mAh (included)” on the side of the box.
400 mAh is not the same as 2200 mAh!
I feel cheated.
@summetj If they stay on all night who cares lol
@mellowirishgent Because 400 mAh NIMH batteries typically don’t last very long, while a 2200 mAh Li-Ion battery is more likely to last for a while.
I paid for the specifications listed on the page (I wouldn’t have bought them if I knew they were 400 mAh NIMH batteries), not for a mediocre substitute product. If you can’t trust the specifications on the product page, how can you justifying order anything?
@summetj Exactly! I wouldn’t have bothered to buy them had I known they had the same innards as the solar lights you can get at the dollar store. I have enough experience with those to know they’re only worth a buck since they rarely last a summer. I was expecting something that would last at least a few years. I also feel cheated, and I bought 2 sets as gifts for others… they’ll think I’ve been shopping for them at the dollar store.
@Kerig3 Oh for fuck’s sake. meh screwed the pooch here, but going on about the gifts is just piling on. Prove you’re not a cheapskate and get them some tikis from Target or something. Sheese.
@carl669
@Kerig3 @therealjrn I’m usually rooting for Meh but I’d have to agree with Kerig3 here. They have a reasonable expectation that the detailed specifications of a product shown on the page will accurately reflect the actual product being sold. From what I have read above in this thread, the ‘resolution’ was that the product was correct according to the photos, but the description/specs were incorrect and have since been changed. I would think that a refund, at the least, is in order for those customers who feel the product they received was not the same as the one described…which is the case here. The height and battery type & capacities alone are markedly different.
@PooltoyWolf I think you’re misunderstanding the solution, PTW. So they fixed the specs after the sale? That’s not the solution.
The solution is to send the shit back for a refund. Period. I have not seen one single post denying anyone a complete refund.
Going on about how your standing in the community is damaged because you don’t have a suitable gift is just silly.
I’m sorry for jumping your shit and I apologize @Kerig3. I’d be annoyed if you gave me these shitty lanterns too. You’d probably see them again at the next gift exchange.
@Kerig3 @therealjrn No need to jump on me, I’m just going by what I can see, and I just got here.
Though I guess you can jump on me, if you want. I am an inflatable, after all. -boing-
@Kerig3 @PooltoyWolf @therealjrn They listed them with one Amazon page, I asked on 7/20 if they were the right ones, they changed to page to something sorta closer, then shipped a bad knock-off.
Too many misses on this one.
And, they suck.
Came today easy set up will report back when the sun has worked its magic.
Mine came today as well. I did a test indoors and they all worked, but as mentioned above the “flickering” looked like a jumping up-and-down motion with no randomness to be seen that you’d get with real flames. I’ll see what they’re like tonight but I’m expecting to be disappointed…
@Bandrik Yep, more dissapointment that a sigh of meh.
@Bandrik Update. All 6 indeed turned on at dusk and seem to be operating fine. I got them for my parents and both of them liked them a lot.
The artificially rhythmic “flickering” didn’t seem to bother them, so i guess that’s a moot point. I’ll just teach my brain that it’s retro videogame styled where fire had 2-3 frames of repeating animation.
The flickering is disappointing. Maybe if they had the original 96 LEDs per instead of the 33 SMDs they would look better. I have an artificial flame lightbulb that was cheaper than these individual lights and it looks way nicer.
I tried to take video last night. I’ll see if I can upload it later.
These things are complete shit. They’re barely a foot high and everything about them is chintzy. One of them arrived completely smashed from the poor padding that didn’t protect it during transit.
The product comparisons we were provided looked like the 4x LED tikis I bought off Amazon for $70, which are phenomenal. These are about a third of their height with smaller lighting units. It doesn’t do any good to update the comparison specs after the sale.
I’m currently charging the un-crushed one in the backyard to see how it looks tonight — if it even turns on.
@sparkle_motion Quick update: Yes, it did turn on. And, yes, the “flicker” is just as shitty as everything else about these things. Instead of being a soothing flame-like dance, it’s just an up/down effect that’s more likely to induce a feeling of seasickness.
@sparkle_motion I sat outside last night and watched these for awhile, and I agree with you that the “flickering” can be nauseating, but when you think of them as accent pieces to your surroundings (i.e. not a feature thing – just something interesting to stick somewhere to make that somewhere a little different), they’re not so bad.
/giphy don’t stare at them
@eonfifty @sparkle_motion But, can they really compare to these from the Amazon link?
And these below have the same pattern design, but with the 96 LEDs as was originally advertised.
@Kerig3 @sparkle_motion
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Another disappointed customer (for the same reasons detailed above). Appropriate that they showed up the same day as my Poo-Pourri order (without the pourri part). On a positive note: The Poo-Pourri didn’t leak.
I mean they’re cute, and I’ll keep them, but they’re definitely less than I paid for.
Yeah- what @Seeds said. I’ll keep them, but I kinda feel like I got cheated.
Follow up very bright looks like a real torch stays on full nite disappointed on the height about 18 inch from top to bottom after spike is inserted worth the 7 bucks each yes
I am very disappointed in the product I received. Not as advertised. I don’t typically try to read the photo of the product box when I’m reviewing product specs online.
There’s a little voice in my head. It sounds like the chanting at a Trump campaign rally.
“SEND THEM BACK! SEND THEM BACK! SEND THEM BACK!”
If you’re bummed about your lanterns, yell at meh.
If you’re dislike that they’re shorter, yell at meh.
If you’re pissed off and you know it, and you really wanna show it; if you’re mad about the lanterns write support.
Really folks - if you need help with your order, please send a message to customer support by clicking “I need help with this” from your order page, or from our Support Form.
We’re here, you’ll spot us if you look for the
9733 LED SMD,flickeringflashing solar lights.@Thumperchick how many chose the blind rage option?
@RiotDemon
/giphy so many
Did I mention that the non-random repeating pattern caused me to have a seizure?
Mine never arrived. I contacted Meh and they told me to find out what happened. I buy from someone and the order doesn’t come, the seller needs to figure out why. Won’t order from Meh again.
@Dislimpet Hey! I just found and responded to your CS case. Looks like just a miscommunication. We can get it sorted out for you.
I cant figure out how to open to replace battery. Can anyone help me please? Thanks.
@deemkooo I think you have to bang 'em on a rock.
These are great and the solar charge last all night. You will not be disappointed with this purchase.
They are nice I like them! Works good.
Oh, they look a lot like our Sunlitec Solar Lights. That we received last week
Over 2+ years and these are still working perfectly