Another disappointed customer (for the same reasons detailed above). Appropriate that they showed up the same day as my Poo-Pourri order (without the pourri part). On a positive note: The Poo-Pourri didn’t leak.
Man are these junky. I disassembled them with the intention of upgrading the puny AA nimh battery.
Don’t bother. The battery compartment is glued shut with epoxy and the battery is soldered into the circuit. Not exactly an easy field replacement.
These things are complete shit. They’re barely a foot high and everything about them is chintzy. One of them arrived completely smashed from the poor padding that didn’t protect it during transit.
The product comparisons we were provided looked like the 4x LED tikis I bought off Amazon for $70, which are phenomenal. These are about a third of their height with smaller lighting units. It doesn’t do any good to update the comparison specs after the sale.
I’m currently charging the un-crushed one in the backyard to see how it looks tonight — if it even turns on.
@sparkle_motion Quick update: Yes, it did turn on. And, yes, the “flicker” is just as shitty as everything else about these things. Instead of being a soothing flame-like dance, it’s just an up/down effect that’s more likely to induce a feeling of seasickness.
@sparkle_motion I sat outside last night and watched these for awhile, and I agree with you that the “flickering” can be nauseating, but when you think of them as accent pieces to your surroundings (i.e. not a feature thing – just something interesting to stick somewhere to make that somewhere a little different), they’re not so bad.
/giphy don’t stare at them
What the hey?!? I ordered them because the specs said: “Li-ion Battery (included): 3.7V 2200maH” and I figured “oh hey, much better than the regular NIMH AA batteries that these type of things normally come with”.
BUT, the ones I got, have “Battery: NI-MH 400 mAh (included)” on the side of the box.
400 mAh is not the same as 2200 mAh!
@mellowirishgent Because 400 mAh NIMH batteries typically don’t last very long, while a 2200 mAh Li-Ion battery is more likely to last for a while.
I paid for the specifications listed on the page (I wouldn’t have bought them if I knew they were 400 mAh NIMH batteries), not for a mediocre substitute product. If you can’t trust the specifications on the product page, how can you justifying order anything?
@summetj Exactly! I wouldn’t have bothered to buy them had I known they had the same innards as the solar lights you can get at the dollar store. I have enough experience with those to know they’re only worth a buck since they rarely last a summer. I was expecting something that would last at least a few years. I also feel cheated, and I bought 2 sets as gifts for others… they’ll think I’ve been shopping for them at the dollar store.
@Kerig3@therealjrn I’m usually rooting for Meh but I’d have to agree with Kerig3 here. They have a reasonable expectation that the detailed specifications of a product shown on the page will accurately reflect the actual product being sold. From what I have read above in this thread, the ‘resolution’ was that the product was correct according to the photos, but the description/specs were incorrect and have since been changed. I would think that a refund, at the least, is in order for those customers who feel the product they received was not the same as the one described…which is the case here. The height and battery type & capacities alone are markedly different.
Mine came today as well. I did a test indoors and they all worked, but as mentioned above the “flickering” looked like a jumping up-and-down motion with no randomness to be seen that you’d get with real flames. I’ll see what they’re like tonight but I’m expecting to be disappointed…
@Bandrik Update. All 6 indeed turned on at dusk and seem to be operating fine. I got them for my parents and both of them liked them a lot.
The artificially rhythmic “flickering” didn’t seem to bother them, so i guess that’s a moot point. I’ll just teach my brain that it’s retro videogame styled where fire had 2-3 frames of repeating animation.
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I just received my order yesterday and they’re NOT what was listed in the specs. According to the specs listed:
Product Name: 2-Pack: Solar Powered Flickering Flame Torch Lights
Lights: 97 LEDs
LED Lifespan: 50,000 hours
Material: ABS + PC
Solar Panel: 0.88W, 20% efficiency
Li-ion Battery (included): 3.7V 2200maH
Solar Charging Time: 8 hours
Duration of Use: Light up 10 hours in summer and 5 hours in winter, after full charge
On/Off light control
Easy installation, no wiring needed
Weather Resistant: IP65 Waterproof and Durable
What I got was similar in design, but with only a 400 mAh batteries not a 2200mAh Li-ion battery. Additionally 33 SMDs not 97 LEDs (I really don’t know what an “SDM” is). Finally, the ones I received are only 23" tall, max (top to bottom of the stake that goes into the ground) not the 30.7"-42.9" advertised. These are really tiny and hardly a “torch” but more a garden stake. The model number on the box matches the description above, but the instructions in the box tell the specs of the actual contents.
Anyone else receive these tiny, underpowered lamps?
Had I known these had dollar-store quality rechargeable batteries and barely came to my knee (and I’m only 5’6") I would never have bought them! The “design” is the same as the photos, but under 2 feet tall…really??? They’re certainly not what I paid for or what was advertised.
@Kerig3@RiotDemon Actually, SMD stands for Surface Mounted Device. It’s in contrast to the old circuit board design with through hole devices. SMD is not just for LED’s but can be for resistors, capacitors, ICs, connectors and all sorts of other things.
I’ve tracked down some info.
The item you received is the item we sold. The photos and comparison links were correct.
The specs had some errors that appear to be from a similar, but different height/etc. version of this one.
I’ve updated the specs to reflect the corrections.
@RiotDemon@Thumperchick My box looks the same, but unfortunately I didn’t go by the measurements on the pictures, I went by the “see more product specs link” from the main page, and it was there that the erroneous info was listed. (now corrected). Maybe it’s just my thing, but I usually use that product specs at the top of this page as the complete specs since it’s always had much more info there. Was it my fault that the specs above didn’t match the photos? I dunno, but I sure feel like a dummy in hindsight…
@Kerig3@RiotDemon I tried to answer this question in the other thread before it got locked, but you beat me to it LOL. SMD actually stands for surface mounted device; it’s a general term that describes any component on a circuit board that isn’t through-hole mounted (soldered from the opposite side). The main advantage is obviously less space used. A downside is they’re a right pain in the rear to replace.
@Kerig3@RiotDemon@Thumperchick Also, 6500K is nowhere near the color temperature of a flickering flame or candle. That’s daylight, very blue-toned! A flame would be much warmer, even more so than an incandescent bulb, probably below 2500K.
@PooltoyWolf Inside my house, I only use bulbs that are 6000K to 6500K. Love it. Get lots of compliments from friends and neighbors saying how “bright” my house looks. It’s not bright but it’s very white. It looks clean and sterile like a doctor’s office using that color temperature. But it would make sense for flickering flame lights to be around 2500K.
6000-6500K color is hard to find (or more expensive) because it seems the more popular bulb is 2500K to 3000K with homeowners. I don’t know why people prefer yellow dingy bulbs in this century. We aren’t living by candlelight any longer and I don’t want my bulbs making it seem like I’m still in the renaissance.
@cengland0 Finally, a light bulb connoisseur after my own heart! I also greatly prefer the cool white color temperature bulbs. Makes it easier to see everything in its proper natural tones, and is great for work environments, too. Plus, I just like cool white. I will use warmer bulbs where historically accurate, though.
@PooltoyWolf Thanks for your comment as I was starting to feel alone here. I don’t know how women could put on their makeup with yellow tinted lights and think it’s going to look the same when they go outside.
Everyone I convert to 6000-6500K, they talk more about how bright their room is and how easy it is to see things. Weird considering the lumens are the same, it’s just the color that’s different.
I’ve only had one person try the daylight color and then go back to warm. I think his old-fashioned wife made him change back but he gave me all his daylight bulbs that he bought so that was a win for me.
@cengland0 I haven’t yet had to resort to buying all my cool white bulbs online, and it actually seems like some stores are starting to carry a wider selection of them. They were kind of hard to find in CFL bulbs, but LED ones are easier to locate. I find that just swapping from warm white to cool white can even make a room or space appear larger.
The flickering is disappointing. Maybe if they had the original 96 LEDs per instead of the 33 SMDs they would look better. I have an artificial flame lightbulb that was cheaper than these individual lights and it looks way nicer.
I tried to take video last night. I’ll see if I can upload it later.
Fast forward past the woman’s horrible review to about 2:55 to see what the flicker looks like. I am assuming these use the same elements as they look the same. The ones on this video are the model I have.
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We’re here, you’ll spot us if you look for the 97 33 LED SMD, flickering flashing solar lights.
Mine didn’t work right out of the box Apparently no charge left. Time to find a USB plug and port to charge them; only about half hour of light left today, and it’s been mostly hazy anyway.
Update: even sadder – these don’t have a USB plug for non-solar charging like the reference ones at Amazon did. Seems like I noticed that at the time I ordered, and then forgot. Guess I will have to wait for sunrise in the A.M.
But did just notice:
If you assemble both with extender rods but with only one ground stake inserted, you can join them together and have a nice baton. Can’t wait to have these charged up and try my (non-existent) cheerleader skills tomorrow night. (Maybe I should wait until all the neighbors have gone to bed…)
Are these warrantied against being flung and dropped and crashing against the driveway?
@eonfifty I’d have to haul a full-body mirror outside to do that video. Or, easier, do a selfie in the bathroom mirror with the lights off.
You want with or without clothes for the bathroom selfie? Without seems to be the current meme, from what I see (pun intended) of various celebrities. Consider carefully before you answer, I’m past middle age.
@kalfaz you can never reinstitute it so don’t do that. if there’s 1 worthwhile thing a month, vmp’s paid for itself. even if it’s just a “boring” item like batteries or gum, 3% of the items are easily worth buying.
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I was going to buy these till I seen the 90-day warranty that’s not even one full season so although I like these they look nice and I actually need them I’m going to pass okay count the months July August September and breaks in October you’re done totally unacceptable warranty if the lights last 10,000 hours why is the warranty only 90 days
@mellowirishgent It may be that these are really old and the rechargeable battery inside is near the end of its life. Of course all you’d have to do is replace the battery. I’ve done that with solar lights.
After seeing the Amazon videos I’m going to reconsider and buy 4 however they have a 12-month manufacturers on Amazon so@90 days I’m just suspecting that the batteries are very old and that’s why this is a deep discount but I’m going to try them