Product: 2-Pack: KeySmart PRO with Tile Smart Location
Model: KS411-RED
Condition: New
Battery Life: 3 Months
Device Bluetooth Range: 30 ft
Audio Output: 80-90 dB (varies by ringtone)
Dimensions: 3.6" L x 0.75" W x 0.25" - 0.5" D
Materials: Polycarbonate, Stainless Steel
Max number of keys w/o expansion packs (sold separately): 10
Use the Tile™ App to help you locate your keys or phone by displaying the location on a map
You can always know where your keys are, and if someone uses them to take your car or steals your purse with your keys inside, you’ll know where those items are too
Unlike other trackers, this tracker works everywhere and isn’t limited to a 30-foot Bluetooth radius with the Community Find feature
You can press a button and make your phone ring even if it’s on silent
Make your keys play a tune so you can find them faster
A SINGLE CHARGE LASTS 3 MONTHS, and you can recharge it with the included Micro-USB cable
Includes a powerful led light perfect for unlit doorways
Also includes a convenient bottle opener
Holds up to 10 keys, but it can expand to hold more keys with extension packs
Add Tile to your Amazon Echo or Google Home to locate your phone or keys verbally with the power of your voice
Tile™ App is available on both Apple iOS and Android Devices
@mikesmells it only needs to be charged if you want to locate it with your phone – the keys stored in these can be used without any charge at all. Yaknow… because they are keys Now if you’re locked out because you lost your key, that’s what this solves for (if you charge it once every 3 months)
@CraigDanger@rescuedabyss Same as @blaineg here, and before that I’d rigged up my own one-ended version using a binding post/screw. Keeps my keys compactly together in my pocket, easy to flick out and use the one I want, just takes a bit of change in technique vs. a keyring.
Now, whether the Tile feature is useful or practical, that’s another matter…
@rescuedabyssMost of the keys I carry have fat plastic heads, or they’re bladeless fobs. Either way, I’d have at most two additional keys in that thing.
You know, I actually have and use one of these probably from years ago the first time they were on offer in white. There was also a not electric version I preferred but it was sold out so I ended up with the tile one. The swiss army knife of keys part is cool and all but considering I could never get the damn thing to hold a charge for more than a day or two at best just to have the option of the flash light I never even bothered to try the tile part. Can’t honestly recommend it unless the batteries have come a few inches over the years. Again though, cool swiss army knife of keys barring any function past that.
@Tiamat114 I cannot speak for these, but small rechargable batteries have come a long way.
I’ve used a plain KeySmart for years… makes keys so much smaller. It would be useful to have a light, tho that may suck with these.
Among other things, almost all disposable vaping devices have perfectly good rechargable Li-Ion cells in them,even tho no way to recharge. This is because recharablge Li batteries are cheaper to make than non-rechargable ones (they use a lot less lithium, apparently).
I’ve “harvested” tiny rechargable batteries from “street lithium” (found vape pens in the gutter) They don’t have much capacity, but can be great when (small) size matters. Wear gloves, because yeech! And check out the bigclivelivedotcom channel on YouTube… he has many videos on doing this and many other cool things.
@Tiamat114 Given that these still charge via micro-USB, I wouldn’t hold my breath that the batteries have improved any. I had one of these exact same things in white that I bought from here over 4 years ago Never kept a charge for any length of time, and had a nasty habit of spontaneously falling apart.
Eventually replaced it with this one which lacks the tracking and flashlight features, but has held together well even if I have to tighten the screws from time to time. Got a Tile fob (instead of the multitude of TrackRs floating around here) for the tracking, and a smartphone for the flashlight. Better choices overall.
@ciabelle I think that’s the exact time that I bought mine! So you too had trouble right from the get go? I thought mine was a one off but just went with it since it still did the thing I had really gotten it for and it felt wasteful to just send it back for an exchange at that point. Though thinking on it now it probably would have just ended up in someones fuku and not the trash…
@Tiamat114 Tile will always have a “special” place in my regard, for their choice to make a relatively pricey tracking widget whose single-use lithium battery was sealed in place and inaccessible. I lack enthusiam for their products as a result.
@ciabelle@Tiamat114 you do realize the charger port design has nothing to do with the battery design right?
Also…4 years ago Li tech was not nearly as advanced as it is today. j/s you’re making some wild assumptions and presenting it as some sort of technical data…this isn’t cnn
Geez, what a crock for many of us - I only have 3 “flat” keys, and 4 key fobs. This is so impractical for my needs. (I guess if you have house/business keys for two or 3 places, it might be useful, but I don’t know anybody in that circumstance.) Add in battery usage for the app, and I just can’t see how these would be useful. And for close to $20 per holder, this seems way overpriced. (/Luddite, or something.)
@CBL_WV Yeah, I have exactly one key I need to carry now. That one will be replaced if I find a decent electronic lock set on the cheap.
I use a Chums Surfshort wallet to hold my house key, flashlight, pen, driver’s license, ATM card, razor knife, $100 in $20s and a few tokens. Takes up less space than a compact wallet.
It used to bulge a bit when it also had the car key/fob attached. The car was taken out last year though and everything is so expensive now I have not picked up a new one. Insurance covered exactly half of what a similar car cost in reality now.
@CBL_WV lol…if it is impractical for YOUR needs…then who cares?? Why is it some kinda issue?? It’s practical for OTHERS. Not everything is catered to YOU. Ppl who think like you, are a roadblock to euphoria to say the least…
Let me take my key ring which is much smaller and fits in my watch pocket in my jeans including the fat rfid key and shove it into this huge contraption so I can haul it around in my pocket instead. These have never made any sense
I’ve used a basic keysmart for years, because even though it contains only 4 keys it also holds about 8 of those loyalty cards stores want to scan at the register- very handy for those.
@manhattnik not a problem in my experience. I have one and… it’s fine. The issue is I don’t want to have to charge my keys. Tiles work because they need one new battery per year. This one doesn’t last long without a charge.
@mehlforwarding It seems that the less-fancy ones are metal. Also, a Tile tracker which needs to be charged every few days (or however long) isn’t much use at all. I might get the plain inexpensive metal version. Or not.
I used one of these for a long time. I still use a slim, basic keysmart and they’re great, but I got rid of the Tile one and opted for an AirTag instead. The major downfall for me was no “low battery alert.” Many times it wasn’t charged when I would have needed the Tile function, which rendered it useless. I guess I could’ve made my own recurring calendar appointment to charge my keys every couple weeks, but how hard would it have been to include that in the Tile app?
Tile has a model that uses disposable replaceable button batteries. Yes, bad for the environment. Fine. Put that on the key ring if you want a Tile. I do like the Tile as I lose things all the time especially my keys.
I do have a plain keysafe with no extra doo dads and it’s nice but I think this is overpriced especially with the color, which is fine for some but two of them I do not need.
Big Meh. Yet another thing to keep charged - and who needs a flashlight on their keyring when everyone carries a smartphone with a flashlight on it? I’d rather keep my small keyring with an Apple AirTag on it.
I used to have a job… When I did, I had a ton of keys for it. I used one of the regular ones, and LOVED the Concept. It worked well, until it didn’t. They would just all of a sudden fall apart. It’s kind of a PITA to get the keys inside, but worth it when it would stay together. So, while the idea is good, ultimately it wasn’t a good product. They didn’t have the TILE and were much cheaper than these. I don’t think these are worth the price, and as someone else mentioned, the photo shows a lot of keys that are supposed to fit in it. Sorry, not buying it folks. The Photo, or the product. I gave up on them after my 2nd one crapped out. I still have a few, might make good stocking stuffers for the uninformed.
I had one and went to an NFL game and they wouldn’t let me in because it looked like a switchblade. I had to talk to them for 20 minutes explaining there was no blade on it. (There was a bottle opener). They finally let me in.
@densa If they thought it looked “like a switchblade”, then they clearly had never seen a switchblade at all. It sort of maybe a bit looks like an undersized homemade copy of a really odd Swiss Army Knife, but that’s as close to something with a knife blade as can be accepted without having to make really disparaging comments.
I had their non-tile version and it doesn’t really accommodate bigger fob car keys at all, so when you add in the car dongle and the big car key that doesn’t fit the whole “slimline” effect or the original concept is out the window. My best bet is to get a keyless entry system at your house - once I did that along with a judicious trimming of my key ring (do I really need to carry my office cabinet key since I’m working from home now? no, no i don’t) my “mutant pocket mollusk” has been tamed
I use to have the dumb version of this. I appreciated the space efficiency and quiet nature of such a key setup. No more jingling keys clipped to my belt. My only issue was that I barely had enough keys to use it.
I’ve had one of these for years (a white one) and it’s still completely functional. I will say this:
It is a bit of a pain to put together with your keys. Expect to use a bunch of spacers and struggle a bit getting it all together and all the keys swinging out smoothly. However, once you have it together, it works well.
This cannot hold many odd keys or fobs. You have to put them on that beer opener end and there isn’t a lot of room.
The Tile tracking is ok, but not anywhere near as effective as an AirTag since Tile has far fewer users overall.
the cover for the microUSB input is plastic and it discolors fast (on my white one).
I find that you periodically need to tighten up the screws. Not too often, but it is necessary. You can use a fingernail to do it (since you don’t want the screws to be really tight or the keys won’t swing smoothly out).
The biggest problem is that the battery dies without the Tile app warning you at all. As others have mentioned, this can lead to the tracker not working when you need it because you forgot to charge it. There is no physical battery charge level indicator, either. The charge light on this is only used when the unit is plugged in to show you if the battery is charging or not. Add a reminder to your phone to recharge this every month.
The internal battery is not really user replaceable.
All-in-all, I’m happy I have it, as it does make my keys easier to pocket, but this won’t be ideal for everyone.
Since the keysmart pro doesn’t have a battery indicator, I periodically “test” it by turning on the light. If it doesn’t turn on, the battery is dead. It isn’t perfect, since that only tests if there is any power left and won’t indicate how much power is left, but it is something.
Just received mine and baby Jesus ina manger this is the cheapest piece of crapola. It’s ALL plastic, unlike the good one I bought about 5vyratscagobthats a heavier metal. I give this thing zero chance of surviving any usage
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Product: 2-Pack: KeySmart PRO with Tile Smart Location
Model: KS411-RED
Condition: New
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@yakkoTDI are you the gatekeeper?
@yakkoTDI Not that i know of…
Overpriced
@glarue Way, way overpriced.
“Sorry kids! We are locked out because I forgot to charge my key!”
We live in a stupid future world.
@mikesmells it only needs to be charged if you want to locate it with your phone – the keys stored in these can be used without any charge at all. Yaknow… because they are keys
Now if you’re locked out because you lost your key, that’s what this solves for (if you charge it once every 3 months)
@mikesmells @troy But I totally agree with the stupid part.
These are still a thing? I have so many from irks and bocs
Yay, Georgia Red.
These things are useless.
@CraigDanger Thanks for the very detailed review.
@CraigDanger why?
@rescuedabyss the don’t reduce any bulk in your pocket, and actually make getting a door unlocked one-handed harder
@CraigDanger @rescuedabyss I find they make it much easier, just flick the key out with a thumb, and you’re in.
I’ve used a plain aluminum one for years, and it’s by far my favorite.
@CraigDanger @rescuedabyss Same as @blaineg here, and before that I’d rigged up my own one-ended version using a binding post/screw. Keeps my keys compactly together in my pocket, easy to flick out and use the one I want, just takes a bit of change in technique vs. a keyring.
Now, whether the Tile feature is useful or practical, that’s another matter…
You need a new key…
@eeterrific An interesting interview with Melanie here: https://www.classicrockmusicwriter.com/2013/08/melanie-safka-exclusive-my-mother-drove.html
in which she talks about how she did not intend the song to be about sexual innuendos and also talks about how she came to perform at the iconic Woodstock event and how that led to the song “(Lay Down) Candles in The Rain”.
@eeterrific
@eeterrific …annnd that reminds me of The Wurzels’ “Combine Harvester” sung to the same tune:
My experience with Tile is that any useful level of service requires a subscription. If that has changed, these might be interesting.
These things don’t work worth beans with the modern keyless fobs that come with lots of cars.
@werehatrack I don’t think they were designed around a person wanting to store several fobs in one place.
@werehatrack You would attach your fob like normal and have your other keys inside the housing…exactly like the photo shows
@rescuedabyss Most of the keys I carry have fat plastic heads, or they’re bladeless fobs. Either way, I’d have at most two additional keys in that thing.
You know, I actually have and use one of these probably from years ago the first time they were on offer in white. There was also a not electric version I preferred but it was sold out so I ended up with the tile one. The swiss army knife of keys part is cool and all but considering I could never get the damn thing to hold a charge for more than a day or two at best just to have the option of the flash light I never even bothered to try the tile part. Can’t honestly recommend it unless the batteries have come a few inches over the years. Again though, cool swiss army knife of keys barring any function past that.
@Tiamat114 I cannot speak for these, but small rechargable batteries have come a long way.
I’ve used a plain KeySmart for years… makes keys so much smaller. It would be useful to have a light, tho that may suck with these.
Among other things, almost all disposable vaping devices have perfectly good rechargable Li-Ion cells in them,even tho no way to recharge. This is because recharablge Li batteries are cheaper to make than non-rechargable ones (they use a lot less lithium, apparently).
I’ve “harvested” tiny rechargable batteries from “street lithium” (found vape pens in the gutter) They don’t have much capacity, but can be great when (small) size matters. Wear gloves, because yeech! And check out the bigclivelivedotcom channel on YouTube… he has many videos on doing this and many other cool things.
@Tiamat114 Given that these still charge via micro-USB, I wouldn’t hold my breath that the batteries have improved any. I had one of these exact same things in white that I bought from here over 4 years ago Never kept a charge for any length of time, and had a nasty habit of spontaneously falling apart.
Eventually replaced it with this one which lacks the tracking and flashlight features, but has held together well even if I have to tighten the screws from time to time. Got a Tile fob (instead of the multitude of TrackRs floating around here) for the tracking, and a smartphone for the flashlight. Better choices overall.
@ciabelle I think that’s the exact time that I bought mine! So you too had trouble right from the get go? I thought mine was a one off but just went with it since it still did the thing I had really gotten it for and it felt wasteful to just send it back for an exchange at that point. Though thinking on it now it probably would have just ended up in someones fuku and not the trash…
@Tiamat114 Tile will always have a “special” place in my regard, for their choice to make a relatively pricey tracking widget whose single-use lithium battery was sealed in place and inaccessible. I lack enthusiam for their products as a result.
@ciabelle @Tiamat114 you do realize the charger port design has nothing to do with the battery design right?
Also…4 years ago Li tech was not nearly as advanced as it is today. j/s you’re making some wild assumptions and presenting it as some sort of technical data…this isn’t cnn
Geez, what a crock for many of us - I only have 3 “flat” keys, and 4 key fobs. This is so impractical for my needs. (I guess if you have house/business keys for two or 3 places, it might be useful, but I don’t know anybody in that circumstance.) Add in battery usage for the app, and I just can’t see how these would be useful. And for close to $20 per holder, this seems way overpriced. (/Luddite, or something.)
@CBL_WV Yeah, I have exactly one key I need to carry now. That one will be replaced if I find a decent electronic lock set on the cheap.
I use a Chums Surfshort wallet to hold my house key, flashlight, pen, driver’s license, ATM card, razor knife, $100 in $20s and a few tokens. Takes up less space than a compact wallet.
It used to bulge a bit when it also had the car key/fob attached. The car was taken out last year though and everything is so expensive now I have not picked up a new one. Insurance covered exactly half of what a similar car cost in reality now.
@CBL_WV lol…if it is impractical for YOUR needs…then who cares?? Why is it some kinda issue?? It’s practical for OTHERS. Not everything is catered to YOU. Ppl who think like you, are a roadblock to euphoria to say the least…
@rescuedabyss slight overreaction, perhaps? They clearly didn’t say it was stupid for everyone, just that it wouldn’t work for MANY of us.
(Which is true for me, too… I only have two keys and one fob.)
I have the metal tile-less version and find it very useful for my collection of work keys. Can anyone convince me I need to upgrade?
I got some of these as stocking stuffers for Christmas when they were first (or second) offered. They got stuffed, and not in a good way.
Yeah… That’ll fit in my pocket well!
tempted, always tempted
good thing i don’t have free shipping
/image free shipping
/8ball should i stay, or should i go?
Signs point to yes
@Yoda_Daenerys
It’s always tease, tease, tease…
Doesn’t fit bicycle lock keys. Big meh.
Let me take my key ring which is much smaller and fits in my watch pocket in my jeans including the fat rfid key and shove it into this huge contraption so I can haul it around in my pocket instead. These have never made any sense
I’ve used a basic keysmart for years, because even though it contains only 4 keys it also holds about 8 of those loyalty cards stores want to scan at the register- very handy for those.
@bwiderski I just give those people my phone number so I don’t have to carry the cards
Does anyone know the max distance these will work when looking for keys?
@Bjlauria It will likely be 5’ less than what you need to find them
I have a bunch of these. I put them inside my socks when I do the laundry.
@quattrose does the tile work in sock heaven?
Holds ten keys, yet the highly suggestive before and after picture shows a keyring with almost twenty keys. More than a little disingenuous.
@flyswatter99a “Encourages you to get rid of the keys that you don’t even know what they’re for any more!”
@ravenblack I guess you aren’t wrong.
I was interested until I read Amazon reviews saying this is made of plastic, not metal, and is fragile. Meh.
@manhattnik not a problem in my experience. I have one and… it’s fine. The issue is I don’t want to have to charge my keys. Tiles work because they need one new battery per year. This one doesn’t last long without a charge.
@manhattnik I had one a few years ago (without the tile part). It eventually fell apart and I threw it away.
@mehlforwarding It seems that the less-fancy ones are metal. Also, a Tile tracker which needs to be charged every few days (or however long) isn’t much use at all. I might get the plain inexpensive metal version. Or not.
I used one of these for a long time. I still use a slim, basic keysmart and they’re great, but I got rid of the Tile one and opted for an AirTag instead. The major downfall for me was no “low battery alert.” Many times it wasn’t charged when I would have needed the Tile function, which rendered it useless. I guess I could’ve made my own recurring calendar appointment to charge my keys every couple weeks, but how hard would it have been to include that in the Tile app?
James Bond hates it.
Too expensive and too much effort.
Tile has a model that uses disposable replaceable button batteries. Yes, bad for the environment. Fine. Put that on the key ring if you want a Tile. I do like the Tile as I lose things all the time especially my keys.
I do have a plain keysafe with no extra doo dads and it’s nice but I think this is overpriced especially with the color, which is fine for some but two of them I do not need.
Big Meh. Yet another thing to keep charged - and who needs a flashlight on their keyring when everyone carries a smartphone with a flashlight on it? I’d rather keep my small keyring with an Apple AirTag on it.
I used to have a job… When I did, I had a ton of keys for it. I used one of the regular ones, and LOVED the Concept. It worked well, until it didn’t. They would just all of a sudden fall apart. It’s kind of a PITA to get the keys inside, but worth it when it would stay together. So, while the idea is good, ultimately it wasn’t a good product. They didn’t have the TILE and were much cheaper than these. I don’t think these are worth the price, and as someone else mentioned, the photo shows a lot of keys that are supposed to fit in it. Sorry, not buying it folks. The Photo, or the product. I gave up on them after my 2nd one crapped out. I still have a few, might make good stocking stuffers for the uninformed.
I had one and went to an NFL game and they wouldn’t let me in because it looked like a switchblade. I had to talk to them for 20 minutes explaining there was no blade on it. (There was a bottle opener). They finally let me in.
@densa If they thought it looked “like a switchblade”, then they clearly had never seen a switchblade at all. It sort of maybe a bit looks like an undersized homemade copy of a really odd Swiss Army Knife, but that’s as close to something with a knife blade as can be accepted without having to make really disparaging comments.
MEH! It’s a piece of shit.
The comments never disappoint…
We purchased one of these in the past and it broke rather quickly. In contrast my older model metal KeySmart is still like new.
I had their non-tile version and it doesn’t really accommodate bigger fob car keys at all, so when you add in the car dongle and the big car key that doesn’t fit the whole “slimline” effect or the original concept is out the window. My best bet is to get a keyless entry system at your house - once I did that along with a judicious trimming of my key ring (do I really need to carry my office cabinet key since I’m working from home now? no, no i don’t) my “mutant pocket mollusk” has been tamed
I use to have the dumb version of this. I appreciated the space efficiency and quiet nature of such a key setup. No more jingling keys clipped to my belt. My only issue was that I barely had enough keys to use it.
I’ve had one of these for years (a white one) and it’s still completely functional. I will say this:
All-in-all, I’m happy I have it, as it does make my keys easier to pocket, but this won’t be ideal for everyone.
@mehric Now that’s a helpful, well-written, quality review!
@mehric oh, and one thing I forgot to mention:
Since the keysmart pro doesn’t have a battery indicator, I periodically “test” it by turning on the light. If it doesn’t turn on, the battery is dead. It isn’t perfect, since that only tests if there is any power left and won’t indicate how much power is left, but it is something.
Just received mine and baby Jesus ina manger this is the cheapest piece of crapola. It’s ALL plastic, unlike the good one I bought about 5vyratscagobthats a heavier metal. I give this thing zero chance of surviving any usage