@hchavers@kus@yakkoTDI, because they probably only have one set of metal prongs that goes into the outlet instead of two sets of prongs. Very cheap on their part, and ineffective for folks like me who have top and bottom outlets on separate circuits (bottom outlet activated by wall switch).
@mrdancer I don’t think you’d want to tie two circuits together like that anyway. If there’s 2 circuits on an outlet, this would not be a good addition to that outlet, whether it had single or dual sets of plugs. If only single, as you pointed out, you’re not able to utilize both circuits. If dual, the switched circuit would be energized all the way back to the breaker, regardless of the position of your wall switch, rendering it useless and possibly dangerous.
@Doooood: no, i was thinking two separate circuits within the plug, not tied together. Then the bottom set would be tied to the wall switch, and the upper set constantly powered. This can be done with those cheap little 3-to-1 outlet adapters, but they don’t have a screw to hold them in place.
I hated that when I lived in my apartment. No lights or outlets. I understand the lights (well not really, it’s just them being cheap) but it’s not like I can bring more outlets to put into the walls.
Ooh la la… Look who can afford an up-to-code apartment.
Touché… though the house I bought in 1988 was definitely NOT code at the time, but is now, after lots of work over the past 33 years. It’s also appreciated by >800%.
When I wired the 16x16ft 2 story building we use for a pool house the inspector asked who did the wiring. When I told him I had (I am an ER nurse… not an electrician) he was floored and told me that it was the neatest breaker box he had seen in a long time. I told him that was because I lived here and wanted to have the place for a long time…
@jaynedough What’s a good long cord good for if all your outlets are taken up by other things? I use something like this in my kitchen (it’s from the 90s and only has 3 extra plugins)… but it allows me to have my microwave, coffee pot, and coffee grinder all going at once without having to mess with cords.
I also have a small one (a single plug in with a usb charger next to it) that I use in my room so I can have my lamp, computer, and phone all plugged in at once.
@zachdecker I’ve seen horizontal and “ground prong up” installations in certain places because on a “ground plug down” plug when you drop something metal like a knife or screwdriver on a plug that isn’t inserted all the way it will short the positive and negative terminals and create fireworks. I was of the opinion that this combination of factors would never happen in the real world until I dropped a screwdriver in exactly that way and made a mess. Hopefully there is a real electrician around these parts that can add some real knowledge to my reply
Six outlet wall adapters are great since it’s very common to run out of outlets but not actually want to deal with a power strip and another cord hanging around.
These have the center screw that lets you screw the whole thing to the old outlet, so when you try to unplug one device it doesn’t pull the whole adapter out with it. That screw is important and a lot of these adapters are missing it.
The USB-A ports, shrug, I think most of us have enough of those by now. So I don’t think I’m going to order this. Also the phone rest thing makes the whole adapter thicker, which can’t be good.
There is another style where the outlets are on the edge of the box instead of the front, nice when the outlet is behind furniture. Harbor Freight has those for around $3 (no surge protection or USB though). Good to have both kinds, I guess.
At Home Depot I saw a holy grail with outlets on both places, but they were stupid expensive so I didn’t buy.
Overall this is an ok offer if you want the USB ports.
@OnionSoup looks like according to Amazon reviews, this one has 1plug, a plastic pin, and the screw. Probably best for behind tvs and stuff like that where things aren’t constantly being plugged in/unplugged, but stable enough for me
If these had eight outlets, duals sets of prongs on the back for separate circuits, 2.1A per USB port and still retained the center screw, I’d buy a dozen of these, at twice the price. As it is, these won’t do anything more for me than the $2-$3 plugs at the local store will do. No buy.
also… if these had wings and could fly, I’d buy a couple too.
As it is I have a few of these (or their twins) around. One of which I use as a travel plug since it has 4 USB plugs and 6 outlets. Extremely useful when you are staying in a condo, AirBnB, VRBO etc for a few days as it allows all the electronics to live in one spot (like the kitchen) so you don’t leave chargers behind.
@ChrisHBelAir and now I just read the specifications… It does protect from power surges! So I change my gripe to… There’s no way you get six plugs on this, four tops given the size of plug heads and adapters these days.
I’m in the market for some of these things. I really need it it for my smart tv and cable box and whatever else will be plugged into it. I don’t know enough about this stuff so do I want the ones with one or two prongs on the back? Oh the circuit I’m gonna be using is in the basement and I might have to share with the wine fridge too if that matters.
@aolshove@Star2236 If you’re basement is wired so that both outlets work at the same time it should be ok in that regard. My living room is wired to turn off the bottom outlets with a switch which can be frustrating with things like these.
Depending on where you live, you may want to look into getting something that a little more surge protection. Of course, this really depends on how dependable your electricity is and how stormy your weather is.
All that being said… I bought a couple myself because they’re going to be very handy and I don’t have to worry too much about surges in my area.
I do like that they screw into the outlet for a more secure placement.
@aolshove excuse me but a standard duplex Outlet is only one circuit! It makes no difference whether it plugs into the bottom one or the top one you’re still only using one circuit. So, it makes no sense to plug into both of them!
@doubltap@ashemo@olbaid84 Yes, you’re right but I have three outlets in my house that are switched (zwave) on the bottom and un-switched at the top. But yeah, for the rest of y’all, the single pole is good 'nuff.
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I’d rather pay a bit more and get something that actually works as a surge protector. I’d trust APC’s USB output power a bit more to be correct and like the side-mounted outlets as well. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01MSW5RNM