@chienfou
Not a valid comparison, in the context of the post, which was who wins for the SuperBowl ads, for the reason that you are treating the situation as if ABinBev makes all their revenue soley due to the SuperBowl ads. I bet they advertise elsewhere (other networks, magazines, sides of buses, etc.). But in that context, the network itself does get sole possession of the revenue from the ads it sells.
[Also, I doubt ESPN sells the ads on Fox network (who is carrying the SB).]
But, obviously, the advertisers feel that it is worth their cost, in one way or another. (c.f., “loss leaders” in marketing.) I’m sure the big advertisers have bean counters who have figured out the marginal returns.
If you feel like digging through the internet dumpsters (since you seem to already have done some), how much does ABinBev spend total on advertising and what %age of that is on SB ads?
I think it was George Will who said about football: “…it combines two of the worst things in American society: wanton glorified violence and constant committee meetings.”
Let’s do the calculus. The Eagle was made the mascot of the possible the worse nation to exist, a nation that made treaties with Native America Chiefs only the break them later.
Clearly, the Eagles will win by cheating, lying, and buying the refs.
@hchavers@werehatrack I read as far as the “worst nation to exist” part and was thinking “okay, but Germany isn’t the only country with the eagle. The U.S. also has an eagle mascot.”
And then I read on. Well done! But also, very sad. I, also, wish I could disagree with any of it.
(Well, conceptually I disagree with this being the worst nation… but I’m hard-pressed to come up with enough evidence to prove otherwise. Ultimately, this is a sad, sad world.)
@hchavers Sorry? Perhaps your history needs refreshing?
While, yes, there are sad parts, I don’t remember where the USA killed millions like, oh, USSR, China, Cambodia, and WW2 Germany (along with many other countries throughout history)!!!
And since you seem to forget, we fought a civil war to end slavery in the 1800’s … not to keep slavery (actual story of the “Woman King”).
BTW, if we are the “worst nation”, why do so many try to come here illegally (as well as those that come here legally and spend years to become citizens)?
@hchavers@MarkDaSpark The US Civil War and the US-Vietnam War covers million+ casualties pretty well. (But I do agree that ‘worst’ is stretching things; it’s like saying Democracy is the worst form of government, just like every other form of government.)
The thing is, none of those other asshat nations ever really made any secret about their intentions or proclivities. But we always had to have a Justification, even when it was one that was an outright fat lie. And those lies have been trotted out as shining examples of our glorious past ever since. Except now a bunch of them are finally being painted as the lies they always were. I doubt that we’ve uncovered as much as half of the glorifying falsehoods that our school-text history really hides.
What intrigues me about the NFL, is that, except for that one team winning the Super Bowl, every good team loses their last game of the season.
And then they get six months to think about that and stew on it And in August give interviews about how dedicated they are to work even harder.
@macromeh Yeah, but not quite the same. In other sports, a team in the playoffs could actually lose their last FOUR games (if they are swept in the playoffs), but it is extremely unlikely for an NFL team to lose their last three regular season games and then be in the playoffs.
I want the Chiefs to win, so I can watch all the fans in the City of Brotherly Love out rioting and overturning and burning cars (that must be where the real sport is). Of course, they might just do that if they win, too.
But I want the Chiefs to be behind most of the game and just win on a last-second field goal. Otherwise we’ll have to be listening to that stupid tomahawk chant through the whole game.
How is it KC gets to be the Chiefs, when the Washington team had to put balm on their skin and go “Commando”?
@phendrick “Redskins” is regarded as a slur, but the word “Chiefs” is not. This does not mean that there is no opposition to the name of the Kansas City football team, but it is not at anything resembling the same level.
@phendrick@werehatrack And while I don’t like the imagery fans use (the team itself has largely moved away from it), the Chiefs weren’t even named after Native Americans.
While I’m at it, I’m maybe a little out of touch with the sport, but how many teams have players in 3 different colors of jersey? Well, aside from the Wiuiibrs, obviously.
@f00l@jitc Annual? More like daily! The local news channels never go a single day without talking about football - EVERY. DAMN. DAY!
Whether they win or lose, football always dominates the sports news.
@jitc Because of us who once played it and still want to enjoy the mayhem vicariously from our couches.
“Ooh, look at that crack back block he got away with.”
“Wow, see that leg bone sticking out. Is that the quarterback? And I didn’t know an ankle could bend like that.”
“Quick, wipe out that punter before he kicks the ball.”
“Ooh, look at that receiver that just got annihilated while he reached for the ball. Yeah, no, that wasn’t interference. At least according to the refs.”
Not to mention because it sells a lot of beer and a lot of nutritious snacks. Much more than televise tennis.
You want the kids to have nothing better to do than shoot each other on video games?
“Annual reminder” – I’m surprised you hadn’t noticed football between late August and early February. It’s there. Just not hyped nearly as much.
@f00l@jitc@Kyeh “dominates”
You were anxiously waiting for reporting of the cross-country team or lacrosse results?
Fact: at the high school and college level, a disproportionate chunk of the revenue that supports the other sports comes from FOOTBALL, with few exceptions such as a few noted basketball powers (and usually little to nothing from taxes).
If you feel stuck listening to football news, you might look under the seat cushions for that remote.
@phendrick The difference is, in my typical social circles, I generally manage to avoid it. Then, Super Bowl Sunday comes along, and every culinary outfit I follow suddenly has fifteen wing recipes to share. Unavoidable.
@f00l@jitc@phendrick I would prefer that the football “news” stay in the football season, like other sports. I know exactly where my TV remote is, thank you Captain.
@heartny I’ve never heard of those before, and my searches don’t come up with anything spectacular. Are they advertised as being the magical cure to closet mess?
@xobzoo Huggable Hangers were designed by Joy Mangano, originally sold on QVC and later on HSN. They are basically velvet hangers that have a non-slip, thin design. While there are a lot of velvet hangers on the market now, I happen to have and like the original Huggable Hangers. They don’t seem to warp as much as other brands I have tried. Since they were offered on HSN, maybe they will show up on Meh someday.
@heartny@xobzoo Many of the imitations had problems with the plastic breaking at the base of the hook. Some would break everywhere. The last two batches I got from AMZN have been good
@heartny Thanks! Today I have learned more.
(It probably won’t really matter in the grand scheme of things, but it’s [usually] doesn’t hurt to know things.)
/giphy the more you know
(why is it so difficult to get the standard gif of that?)
@pakopako@TheCO2 I haven’t been able to abide the Eagles as a team and as a community since the days I was living in Dallas and following the Cowboys there, and that sorry human Buddy Ryan was their coach.
see https://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/26/sports/sports-of-the-times-the-backfire-from-buddy-ryan-s-bounties.html?pagewanted=1
Furthermore, the “fans” there seemed to condone it.
Interestingly enough, his son Rob was a coach at Dallas for a year or two, and seemed to be liked there.
I actually like the quarterback Hurts, and hope to see him do well in his career. I was surprised when he was replaced by Tua as starter at Alabama. Once he was at Oklahoma, he was pretty well vindicated.
I also like Mahomes and haven’t met him, but was at a breakfast meeting where I sat next to a relative of his, another Mahomes from the Tyler area, who is an impressive individual.
Hope both quarterbacks do well in the Super Bowl and avoid further injury.
Back to Philadelphia.
Dallas and Kansas City have only played a half dozen times in the last 20 years and have a split record, and there is not much emotion between the two teams.
As division rivals, it is a lot different with Philadelphia vs Dallas. Philadelphia fans at their home games give Dallas fans holy hell.
In today’s Super Bowl, Dallas quarterback Dak Prescott was presented with this year’s Walter Peyton Man of the Year Award.
And the Philadelphia fans showed their usual class: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-fans-mercilessly-booed-dak-prescott-for-winning-nfls-walter-payton-man-of-the-year-award/ar-AA17oO5y
So, no, I prefer that the Eagles do not win the game, but I do feel they have the better team, so they probably will.
I’ve been a Chiefs fan (living my entire life within a couple of hours of KC) as long as I can remember having a favorite team. It’s in vogue to hate on them now because of their recent success, but I can tell you there were a LOT of losing seasons, where I still wore my red and gold.
I could fucking care less, although o do have an eagles sweatshirt (free from woot that I should be wearing but the sleeves don’t stay up and I’m washing dishes) otherwise I could care less. Football is not my thing, obviously.
I can tell you who will win. The advertisers
@Cerridwyn Not as much as the network selling those ads.
@Cerridwyn @phendrick But in the end, aren’t we all winners?
@Cerridwyn @phendrick @xobzoo You know we have to pay for that participation trophy ourselves now?
@pakopako And we don’t make a profit on that sale…
Follow the money to see who really wins.
@phendrick
Not sure where you get YOUR news but:
ESPN (for one) annual revenue is about 4B
ABInBev (for one) 55B.
@chienfou
Not a valid comparison, in the context of the post, which was who wins for the SuperBowl ads, for the reason that you are treating the situation as if ABinBev makes all their revenue soley due to the SuperBowl ads. I bet they advertise elsewhere (other networks, magazines, sides of buses, etc.). But in that context, the network itself does get sole possession of the revenue from the ads it sells.
[Also, I doubt ESPN sells the ads on Fox network (who is carrying the SB).]
But, obviously, the advertisers feel that it is worth their cost, in one way or another. (c.f., “loss leaders” in marketing.) I’m sure the big advertisers have bean counters who have figured out the marginal returns.
If you feel like digging through the internet dumpsters (since you seem to already have done some), how much does ABinBev spend total on advertising and what %age of that is on SB ads?
Me. I want to be the winningest winner around.
@yakkoTDI I’ll vote for you.
I think it was George Will who said about football: “…it combines two of the worst things in American society: wanton glorified violence and constant committee meetings.”
@Harbingerdc But isn’t that the flying nun? And she did have three children of her own, so…
But, I guess that was all before there was such a thing as the SB.
@Harbingerdc @phendrick
No, that’s Heidi.
And if you understand that reference, you’re old.
@werehatrack
@Harbingerdc You look nice in that dress.
@Harbingerdc @phendrick @werehatrack
/giphy Heidi
/giphy bowl
Whoever doesn’t kneel
I hope both teams get lots of home runs. They’ve worked hard to get here, so may they sink every three point shot they attempt.
I hope the one guy gets a hat trick. I’m sure he’s done that many times before.
Sports Go Sports
Let’s do the calculus. The Eagle was made the mascot of the possible the worse nation to exist, a nation that made treaties with Native America Chiefs only the break them later.
Clearly, the Eagles will win by cheating, lying, and buying the refs.
@hchavers I really wish I could disagree with a single word of that.
@hchavers @werehatrack I read as far as the “worst nation to exist” part and was thinking “okay, but Germany isn’t the only country with the eagle. The U.S. also has an eagle mascot.”
And then I read on. Well done! But also, very sad. I, also, wish I could disagree with any of it.
(Well, conceptually I disagree with this being the worst nation… but I’m hard-pressed to come up with enough evidence to prove otherwise. Ultimately, this is a sad, sad world.)
@hchavers Sorry? Perhaps your history needs refreshing?
While, yes, there are sad parts, I don’t remember where the USA killed millions like, oh, USSR, China, Cambodia, and WW2 Germany (along with many other countries throughout history)!!!
And since you seem to forget, we fought a civil war to end slavery in the 1800’s … not to keep slavery (actual story of the “Woman King”).
BTW, if we are the “worst nation”, why do so many try to come here illegally (as well as those that come here legally and spend years to become citizens)?
@hchavers
Up to 10 million dead …
King Leopold II of Belgium and Atrocities in the Congo Free State
@hchavers @MarkDaSpark, yeah, it’s okay the US killed Natives because other countries killed more people.
@hchavers @MarkDaSpark The US Civil War and the US-Vietnam War covers million+ casualties pretty well. (But I do agree that ‘worst’ is stretching things; it’s like saying Democracy is the worst form of government, just like every other form of government.)
The thing is, none of those other asshat nations ever really made any secret about their intentions or proclivities. But we always had to have a Justification, even when it was one that was an outright fat lie. And those lies have been trotted out as shining examples of our glorious past ever since. Except now a bunch of them are finally being painted as the lies they always were. I doubt that we’ve uncovered as much as half of the glorifying falsehoods that our school-text history really hides.
@werehatrack @hchavers
There’s a bit of competition re that one.
Whatever the best and noblest country that ever existed might be, that country is guilty of a whole big bunch of shit.
It’s kinda in the nature of countries to do some shit.
@hchavers @MarkDaSpark @pakopako
You’re a little off.
Democracy is the worst form of government ever, except for the competition.
@f00l @hchavers @pakopako
Which is why we’re a Democratic Republic, not a “Democracy”. 🫠🫠
@hchavers @pakopako
Um? Millions? You might need to google your sources better!
IIRC, the stats showed there were US Personnel more killed by Drunk Drivers than in Vietnam every year.
As for the ACW?
So, neither was in the millions!
I won’t be watching, and don’t care who will win.
/showme a really good wardrobe malfunction, banana for scale
@awk Move over hotdog fingers - make way for giant banana hands!
I’m just hoping for a really good wardrobe malfunction at halftime.
@tweezak Well if you wear something a bit too tight and leave most of the buttons undone, you just might get your wish…
/showme utter disregard for today’s contest
What intrigues me about the NFL, is that, except for that one team winning the Super Bowl, every good team loses their last game of the season.
And then they get six months to think about that and stew on it And in August give interviews about how dedicated they are to work even harder.
@phendrick Same story with every sports playoff, no?
@macromeh @phendrick as long as your benchmark for “good” is their having made it into the playoffs, yes.
@macromeh Yeah, but not quite the same. In other sports, a team in the playoffs could actually lose their last FOUR games (if they are swept in the playoffs), but it is extremely unlikely for an NFL team to lose their last three regular season games and then be in the playoffs.
@macromeh @werehatrack
“good” & “in the playoffs” – probably a pretty high correlation, though not perfect.
@macromeh @phendrick @werehatrack
Exactly. I enjoy college football for this reason. Good teams go to the playoffs and undefeated teams don’t.
You mean I get to pick my human prize this time?!?
Swansea
Screw them both. I’m watching NHL today.
@detailer
I want the Chiefs to win, so I can watch all the fans in the City of Brotherly Love out rioting and overturning and burning cars (that must be where the real sport is). Of course, they might just do that if they win, too.
But I want the Chiefs to be behind most of the game and just win on a last-second field goal. Otherwise we’ll have to be listening to that stupid tomahawk chant through the whole game.
How is it KC gets to be the Chiefs, when the Washington team had to put balm on their skin and go “Commando”?
@phendrick “Redskins” is regarded as a slur, but the word “Chiefs” is not. This does not mean that there is no opposition to the name of the Kansas City football team, but it is not at anything resembling the same level.
@phendrick @werehatrack And while I don’t like the imagery fans use (the team itself has largely moved away from it), the Chiefs weren’t even named after Native Americans.
@phendrick @werehatrack Washington could have just put a potato on their helmets and kept the old name… just sayin…
@bayportbob @phendrick The term for that is “dog whistle”.
/showme who will win Super Bowl LVII
@mediocrebot Wiuiibrs. Got it. Thanks.
@heartny @mediocrebot What number is that player on the right?
While I’m at it, I’m maybe a little out of touch with the sport, but how many teams have players in 3 different colors of jersey? Well, aside from the Wiuiibrs, obviously.
@heartny @mediocrebot @xobzoo
and what team uses letters instead of numbers?
K for kicker maybe?
@chienfou Oh, I thought it was a san-serif 11.
/showme a really good wardrobe malfunction
@mediocrebot I guess it’s a deep, dark secret
@heartny @mediocrebot Censorship sucks.
I don’t know who will win, but only winners should get sprinkles!!!
I want a good and exciting game to watch and not some crappy blowout by a supposed pro team over another supposed pro team.
@bayportbob Or a boring punt on every fourth play. Not that I will see it if that happens again
Utter disregard.
Why do I have to deal with this constant, annual reminder that football exists?
@jitc
Became se the NFL pays the big bucks just in order to torture
you,
personally
@f00l @jitc Annual? More like daily! The local news channels never go a single day without talking about football - EVERY. DAMN. DAY!
Whether they win or lose, football always dominates the sports news.
@jitc Because of us who once played it and still want to enjoy the mayhem vicariously from our couches.
“Ooh, look at that crack back block he got away with.”
“Wow, see that leg bone sticking out. Is that the quarterback? And I didn’t know an ankle could bend like that.”
“Quick, wipe out that punter before he kicks the ball.”
“Ooh, look at that receiver that just got annihilated while he reached for the ball. Yeah, no, that wasn’t interference. At least according to the refs.”
Not to mention because it sells a lot of beer and a lot of nutritious snacks. Much more than televise tennis.
You want the kids to have nothing better to do than shoot each other on video games?
“Annual reminder” – I’m surprised you hadn’t noticed football between late August and early February. It’s there. Just not hyped nearly as much.
@f00l @jitc @Kyeh “dominates”
You were anxiously waiting for reporting of the cross-country team or lacrosse results?
Fact: at the high school and college level, a disproportionate chunk of the revenue that supports the other sports comes from FOOTBALL, with few exceptions such as a few noted basketball powers (and usually little to nothing from taxes).
If you feel stuck listening to football news, you might look under the seat cushions for that remote.
@f00l @Kyeh one of many reasons I do not watch local news.
@phendrick The difference is, in my typical social circles, I generally manage to avoid it. Then, Super Bowl Sunday comes along, and every culinary outfit I follow suddenly has fifteen wing recipes to share. Unavoidable.
@f00l @jitc @phendrick I would prefer that the football “news” stay in the football season, like other sports. I know exactly where my TV remote is, thank you Captain.
Ida…
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Ida Noh Keer.
If you want an alternative, ESPN2
has the AKC Agility Dogs Invitational on from 4-6!
/showme a wardrobe malfunction
@mediocrebot I think this would be resolved if you used Huggable Hangers.
@heartny I’ve never heard of those before, and my searches don’t come up with anything spectacular. Are they advertised as being the magical cure to closet mess?
@xobzoo Huggable Hangers were designed by Joy Mangano, originally sold on QVC and later on HSN. They are basically velvet hangers that have a non-slip, thin design. While there are a lot of velvet hangers on the market now, I happen to have and like the original Huggable Hangers. They don’t seem to warp as much as other brands I have tried. Since they were offered on HSN, maybe they will show up on Meh someday.
@heartny @xobzoo Many of the imitations had problems with the plastic breaking at the base of the hook. Some would break everywhere. The last two batches I got from AMZN have been good
@heartny Thanks! Today I have learned more.
(It probably won’t really matter in the grand scheme of things, but it’s [usually] doesn’t hurt to know things.)
/giphy the more you know
(why is it so difficult to get the standard gif of that?)
The Eagles have been my 2nd favorite team for years.
And I have disliked the Chiefs a lot longer than people have been on their bandwagon.
@TheCO2 Thought you were going to do a Bobby Heenan joke:
"The Eagles have been my 2nd favorite team for years.
My favorite team is everybody else."
@pakopako Nah… I reserve that one for the New York Yankees and North Carolina Tar Heels.
I don’t hate the Chiefs. I just don’t like them.
@pakopako @TheCO2 I haven’t been able to abide the Eagles as a team and as a community since the days I was living in Dallas and following the Cowboys there, and that sorry human Buddy Ryan was their coach.
see https://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/26/sports/sports-of-the-times-the-backfire-from-buddy-ryan-s-bounties.html?pagewanted=1
Furthermore, the “fans” there seemed to condone it.
Interestingly enough, his son Rob was a coach at Dallas for a year or two, and seemed to be liked there.
I actually like the quarterback Hurts, and hope to see him do well in his career. I was surprised when he was replaced by Tua as starter at Alabama. Once he was at Oklahoma, he was pretty well vindicated.
I also like Mahomes and haven’t met him, but was at a breakfast meeting where I sat next to a relative of his, another Mahomes from the Tyler area, who is an impressive individual.
Hope both quarterbacks do well in the Super Bowl and avoid further injury.
Back to Philadelphia.
Dallas and Kansas City have only played a half dozen times in the last 20 years and have a split record, and there is not much emotion between the two teams.
As division rivals, it is a lot different with Philadelphia vs Dallas. Philadelphia fans at their home games give Dallas fans holy hell.
In today’s Super Bowl, Dallas quarterback Dak Prescott was presented with this year’s Walter Peyton Man of the Year Award.
And the Philadelphia fans showed their usual class:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-fans-mercilessly-booed-dak-prescott-for-winning-nfls-walter-payton-man-of-the-year-award/ar-AA17oO5y
So, no, I prefer that the Eagles do not win the game, but I do feel they have the better team, so they probably will.
Win what?
/giphy puppies
/giphy guacamole
/giphy go sports
I’ve been a Chiefs fan (living my entire life within a couple of hours of KC) as long as I can remember having a favorite team. It’s in vogue to hate on them now because of their recent success, but I can tell you there were a LOT of losing seasons, where I still wore my red and gold.
It’s good to be on the other end now
Just finished watching the Puppy Bowl. No “paid for” calls by the ref.
/showme a banana malfunction, wardrobe for scale
I could fucking care less, although o do have an eagles sweatshirt (free from woot that I should be wearing but the sleeves don’t stay up and I’m washing dishes) otherwise I could care less. Football is not my thing, obviously.
/giphy go birds
38-35 KC
@chienfou If you had told me that about 5 hours earlier, I could have been in good shape to buy the next $3,000.99 IRK.