@Pavlov Well, if breakfast is defined as the first meal of the day, then it is the most important. Partly because it gives your metabolism a jump start for the day, but mostly since it's important to have the rest of the meals without the first one.
@DVDBZN Breakfast doesn't give your metabolism a 'jump start'. The concept that your metabolism needs a ‘boost’ from food when you wake up is completely unfounded.
In fact, this well respected (and now replicated) 16-week study first published June 4, 2014 showed that, regardless of whether subjects ate or skipped breakfast, their metabolism was exactly the same at the end of the study as it was on Day 1.
Breakfast being defined as a meal ritually ingested within two hours after waking.
@Pavlov Fair enough. According to the study, it seems that the biggest difference was increased physical activity. Either way, you won't find me deliberately skipping breakfast.
@Pavlov I say more study is required. If breakfast is defined as within 2 hours of waking up, that doesn't necessarily mean it's better or the same to wait until noonish to eat your first meal of the day. Also, even if it's not better for your metabolism, it might be better for your brain.
@katylava Possibly. Although multiple studies that examine the importance of schoolchildren eating breakfast have failed to show that breakfast (by itself) helps them focus on their work. GastroPod published a thought provoking podcast discussing that issue along with much more breakfast specific minutiae.
@justan79 I'm kind of skeptical that that one is wrong. Drinking more water is (almost) always more beneficial. The 8 glasses is a goal of sorts for people to reach. Most people don't even drink that many. I'm confused as to what part of that Meh is claiming to be incorrect.
@DVDBZN I agree. 6-8 is the revised recommedation?? Depending on your physical activity, how hot it is, medication dry mouth side effects, kidney/urinary conditions etc., drinking more clean water can/is better. Many people go around dehydrated.
@DVDBZN This dumb recommendation isn't based by anything remotely supported by science. But it's so ingrained into our culture that people refuse to let it go. People cling to this for dear life even though they can't point to a single shred of REAL scientific evidence to support it.
I think part of it is that if you want to be healthy this is the easiest thing to do and claim to be healthy. It's way easier to drink water than watch what you eat and exercise. However, that stuff is backed by science.
@looseneck It is true that moisture in food hydrates you. It's also true that if someone thinks 8 glasses a day is some sort of goal (it isn't) every single thing you drink, including coffee and soda, would count towards those 8 glasses because every beverage is almost completely composed of water. And they all hydrate you the same.
@uscpsycho it isn't a dumb recommendation if it helps someone to drink more water. generally speaking, most people could do with more water and less of pretty much everything else they consume. It might be a myth but it isn't a negative one.
I'd love to see you try to back that up with any kind of valid research. I haven't seen a single shred of evidence suggesting that Americans are under-hydrated. As long as you're putting food & liquid in your mouth you are sufficiently hydrated.
The only people who really have to concern themselves with proper hydration are the very physically active. Poverty and some medical conditions could also affect hydration levels, but I'm talking about the average person not extremes.
It is a dumb recommendation if it has no benefit and "drinking more water" really has no benefit. Plus, given people's obsession with bottled water one could argue that there are a log of negative consequences to anything that makes people drink more prepackaged water. In my experience, these nuts that are irrationally obsessed with drinking enough water take bottled water with them everywhere they go. It's like a deathgrip.
@uscpsycho Except alcohol because as a complete inhibitor of the anti-diuretic hormone [ADH], it makes you pee more, and pee more means more than the fluid volume contained in the alcoholic beverage you imbibed.
Hence the [almost totally true] meme that you can't buy beer, you can only rent it.
@uscpsycho Also, just about every patient for whom I review metabolic labs, who isn't scrupulously maintaining a high volume of H2O intake [and I mean usually way more than 64 oz] has evidence of dehydration in their renal [kidney] function tests [BUN, and BUN/Creatinine ratios], which BTW, can lead to kidney stones and eventually renal failure.
Check the stats on the rates of those in the US population, and you'll see it is a scary thing.
So in my 23+ years of general medical experience, the 8 glasses of water thing IS false [BTW, doesn't anyone else ever wonder just what constitutes a "glass"] because given the "usual" 8 oz glass of water, it isn't enough to keep people well hydrated.
My Mother (R.I.P) believed that going outside too soon after bathing was hazardous. I'd be on my way out, and she'd admonish me for going out of the house while my pores were still open, because I would catch cold. I have no idea where she got that nonsense, but I was never able to convince her it was false.
@Pony On that note… The notion that being out in the cold will somehow cause a cold. It's a virus, for frig's sake, and not the sort that only activates upon setting your Nest too low!
@brhfl I think it's mostly if you get wet in cold weather. It might cause your immune system to become vulnerable to the virus that is constantly attacking.
@brhfl I did see a study awhile ago that said that being cold causes your white blood cells to retreat from your nose, making you more susceptible to viruses when and if they enter your nasal cavity. Who knows if that's since been disproven, though.
@metageist A completely unscientific study with one participant (me) has confirmed anecdotal evidence that watching morning "news" shows leads to temporary loss of IQ points. The remedy is to leave the TV off until at least 5 PM. It also helps to avoid any internet stories that begin with "Dr. Oz says..." or contain the words "Kardashian", "Bieber", "Duggar" or "Congress" in the first sentence.
@rockblossom ALL TV news is crap. TV news should consist of weather, sports, traffic, and the rest would be filled with scantily-clad women jumping on trampolines. I'll allow a female version as well, for the Cat Lady and her posse, as long as WCW remains in effect.
Grandpa always said, "If you play with fire, you'll wet the bed." While that may not exactly be a medical myth, if Grandpa said it, it was wise medicine for us.
@miko1 I've seen a lot of studies lately claiming that drinking black coffee is actually good for you multiple ways. I don't know about 8 glasses but 2-3 cups won't hurt.
@RedHot Absolutely true. More and more research says that moderate amounts of coffe (actual coffee, not most of the crap Starbucks sells) has tremendous health benefits. And since coffee is 99+% water it hydrates you just fine.
@Pamtha on the contrary:) 'pooping' was frowned upon as being un lady like, when having a 'movement' one had to don white gloves, hence leaving my hands squeaky clean:)
@Serenity96 I will have to pull out my beloved Emily Post. I don't recall that one, yet my friends know that stacking plates brings me to near tears at restaurants. I have learned something new in etiquette - hooray!
@mahoneyli Interestingly, as a very wavy/curly haired person, who always hated that feature of his hair, I used to go outside in the winter with my hair wet on purpose, because I found out that if I let it freeze, and then combed the ice out of it, it stayed straight for most of the rest of that day...
"We put a chemical in the pool so if you pee it'll turn purple." I was almost 30 before I read that chemical didn't (couldn't) exist but I'll be damned if my kids ever find out.
You mean that they were created so that people couldn't swallow watermelon seeds to get pregnant?
If only Communist China knew that, they would have been able to just ban seeded watermelons, instead of enacting those harsh population control laws...
Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Maybe, if you're selling cereal; otherwise, not so much.
@Pavlov
Well, if breakfast is defined as the first meal of the day, then it is the most important. Partly because it gives your metabolism a jump start for the day, but mostly since it's important to have the rest of the meals without the first one.
@DVDBZN Breakfast doesn't give your metabolism a 'jump start'. The concept that your metabolism needs a ‘boost’ from food when you wake up is completely unfounded.
In fact, this well respected (and now replicated) 16-week study first published June 4, 2014 showed that, regardless of whether subjects ate or skipped breakfast, their metabolism was exactly the same at the end of the study as it was on Day 1.
Breakfast being defined as a meal ritually ingested within two hours after waking.
Science!
@Pavlov
I say the first meal of the day is the most imortant meal. Cause you can't have a second meal until you have a first meal first.
Furthermore, the sooner you finish your first meal, the sooner you can start on the 2nd meal.
*impossible
I can't believe I missed that.
@Pavlov
Fair enough. According to the study, it seems that the biggest difference was increased physical activity. Either way, you won't find me deliberately skipping breakfast.
@DVDBZN How much metabolism does a pint of beer and a bowl of lucky charms give you? And yes, sometimes the beer is the milk...
@Pavlov I say more study is required. If breakfast is defined as within 2 hours of waking up, that doesn't necessarily mean it's better or the same to wait until noonish to eat your first meal of the day. Also, even if it's not better for your metabolism, it might be better for your brain.
@katylava Possibly. Although multiple studies that examine the importance of schoolchildren eating breakfast have failed to show that breakfast (by itself) helps them focus on their work. GastroPod published a thought provoking podcast discussing that issue along with much more breakfast specific minutiae.
I do feel better if I drink 8 glasses of water throughout the day. Not all at once.
@justan79
I'm kind of skeptical that that one is wrong. Drinking more water is (almost) always more beneficial. The 8 glasses is a goal of sorts for people to reach. Most people don't even drink that many. I'm confused as to what part of that Meh is claiming to be incorrect.
@DVDBZN I agree. 6-8 is the revised recommedation?? Depending on your physical activity, how hot it is, medication dry mouth side effects, kidney/urinary conditions etc., drinking more clean water can/is better. Many people go around dehydrated.
@DVDBZN The theory now is that the water in the food you eat counts towards the 8 glasses of water.
@DVDBZN This dumb recommendation isn't based by anything remotely supported by science. But it's so ingrained into our culture that people refuse to let it go. People cling to this for dear life even though they can't point to a single shred of REAL scientific evidence to support it.
I think part of it is that if you want to be healthy this is the easiest thing to do and claim to be healthy. It's way easier to drink water than watch what you eat and exercise. However, that stuff is backed by science.
@looseneck It is true that moisture in food hydrates you. It's also true that if someone thinks 8 glasses a day is some sort of goal (it isn't) every single thing you drink, including coffee and soda, would count towards those 8 glasses because every beverage is almost completely composed of water. And they all hydrate you the same.
@uscpsycho it isn't a dumb recommendation if it helps someone to drink more water. generally speaking, most people could do with more water and less of pretty much everything else they consume. It might be a myth but it isn't a negative one.
@RedHot "most people could do with more water"
I'd love to see you try to back that up with any kind of valid research. I haven't seen a single shred of evidence suggesting that Americans are under-hydrated. As long as you're putting food & liquid in your mouth you are sufficiently hydrated.
The only people who really have to concern themselves with proper hydration are the very physically active. Poverty and some medical conditions could also affect hydration levels, but I'm talking about the average person not extremes.
It is a dumb recommendation if it has no benefit and "drinking more water" really has no benefit. Plus, given people's obsession with bottled water one could argue that there are a log of negative consequences to anything that makes people drink more prepackaged water. In my experience, these nuts that are irrationally obsessed with drinking enough water take bottled water with them everywhere they go. It's like a deathgrip.
@uscpsycho Except alcohol because as a complete inhibitor of the anti-diuretic hormone [ADH], it makes you pee more, and pee more means more than the fluid volume contained in the alcoholic beverage you imbibed.
Hence the [almost totally true] meme that you can't buy beer, you can only rent it.
@uscpsycho Also, just about every patient for whom I review metabolic labs, who isn't scrupulously maintaining a high volume of H2O intake [and I mean usually way more than 64 oz] has evidence of dehydration in their renal [kidney] function tests [BUN, and BUN/Creatinine ratios], which BTW, can lead to kidney stones and eventually renal failure.
Check the stats on the rates of those in the US population, and you'll see it is a scary thing.
So in my 23+ years of general medical experience, the 8 glasses of water thing IS false [BTW, doesn't anyone else ever wonder just what constitutes a "glass"] because given the "usual" 8 oz glass of water, it isn't enough to keep people well hydrated.
@PhysAssist yes! i have always wondered how much is a "glass"! all my glasses hold more than 8oz.
All surgeons have passive agressive personalities. I insist it's true.
@cercopithecoid
I think some of them have aggressive aggressive personalities.
mmm, bratwurst
My Mother (R.I.P) believed that going outside too soon after bathing was hazardous. I'd be on my way out, and she'd admonish me for going out of the house while my pores were still open, because I would catch cold. I have no idea where she got that nonsense, but I was never able to convince her it was false.
@Pony On that note… The notion that being out in the cold will somehow cause a cold. It's a virus, for frig's sake, and not the sort that only activates upon setting your Nest too low!
@brhfl
I think it's mostly if you get wet in cold weather. It might cause your immune system to become vulnerable to the virus that is constantly attacking.
@brhfl I did see a study awhile ago that said that being cold causes your white blood cells to retreat from your nose, making you more susceptible to viruses when and if they enter your nasal cavity. Who knows if that's since been disproven, though.
@Pony Quote the Nordsky's who sauna or hot tub and then go out and roll in the snoiw
I'll just leave this here:
@metageist Jeeze, I was actually listening to this while surfing over to meh.com. How'd you do that?
@PocketBrain I take ginkgo biloba for that
@metageist The Brian Williams joke was too good.
@metageist A completely unscientific study with one participant (me) has confirmed anecdotal evidence that watching morning "news" shows leads to temporary loss of IQ points. The remedy is to leave the TV off until at least 5 PM. It also helps to avoid any internet stories that begin with "Dr. Oz says..." or contain the words "Kardashian", "Bieber", "Duggar" or "Congress" in the first sentence.
@rockblossom ALL TV news is crap.
TV news should consist of weather, sports, traffic, and the rest would be filled with scantily-clad women jumping on trampolines.
I'll allow a female version as well, for the Cat Lady and her posse, as long as WCW remains in effect.
Grandpa always said, "If you play with fire, you'll wet the bed." While that may not exactly be a medical myth, if Grandpa said it, it was wise medicine for us.
@2many2no Mega-Dittoes!!
"If you keep making that face, it will freeze that way"
@therealjrn but it will only stay that way until the protons in your petrified skin start to decay in Trillions of Trillions of Trillions of years.
@DonberKon plus infinity
I am not surprised that sugar doesn't make brats, but I sure would like to be able to sabotage other people's kids.
@PocketBrain That's what grandchildren are for...
Payback!
When did these truths become myths?
@elimanningface When people started realizing they weren't ever true.
@dunda
@elimanningface
And then when they wont leave.
"The doctor knows best" or "the doctor will be in, in just a minute" How can the doctor know best, when he can't even tell time.
Darn decimal places...
Who Will Debunk The Debunkers?
Drink 8 glasses of coffee a day.
Its full of water.
Its got what dads crave.
@miko1 I've seen a lot of studies lately claiming that drinking black coffee is actually good for you multiple ways. I don't know about 8 glasses but 2-3 cups won't hurt.
@RedHot Absolutely true. More and more research says that moderate amounts of coffe (actual coffee, not most of the crap Starbucks sells) has tremendous health benefits. And since coffee is 99+% water it hydrates you just fine.
@uscpsycho True dat, and research shows that caffeinated beverages do NOT negatively impact your fluid volume.
If you keep biting your fingernails...you'll get worms. Yes, folks that's just one of the nuggets from the ol' Smith family vault of dysfunction.
@Serenity96 maybe if your nails were dirty with infested fecal matter...... It would be plausible
@Pamtha on the contrary:) 'pooping' was frowned upon as being un lady like, when having a 'movement' one had to don white gloves, hence leaving my hands squeaky clean:)
@Serenity96 I will have to pull out my beloved Emily Post. I don't recall that one, yet my friends know that stacking plates brings me to near tears at restaurants. I have learned something new in etiquette - hooray!
@Pamtha IS plausible, and who knows where that contamination might have been picked up...
Pounding your pud will cause you to have hairy palms.
Never have I ever...
@jml326
Some people prob cant see all the hair on their palms cause they went blind first.
@jml326 ...or flicking your bean, not that anyone ever does that...
Going outside with your hair wet will make you sick...
According to my mother.
@mahoneyli Interestingly, as a very wavy/curly haired person, who always hated that feature of his hair, I used to go outside in the winter with my hair wet on purpose, because I found out that if I let it freeze, and then combed the ice out of it, it stayed straight for most of the rest of that day...
and I almost never got sick.
I mean -EVER- [in those days]...
Eating cake for breakfast will give you worms...
My mother said that for years.
@mahoneyli Bill Cosby says cake is nutritious. Portal says it is a lie....
Sugar may not make kids into brats, but it does give them extra energy to run around like crazy. Especially my grandkids.
@olperfesser "Your parents are coming to get you. Here's a Coke and a Snickers."
@olperfesser Sugar is sedative if anything. Kids who get hyper on sugar are most likely doing so because of confirmation bias passed on from adults.
"We put a chemical in the pool so if you pee it'll turn purple." I was almost 30 before I read that chemical didn't (couldn't) exist but I'll be damned if my kids ever find out.
@mattj: guess we won’t be swimming with @barney.
your face won't actually stay that way
signed, steve (ºдo)
If you swallow watermelon seeds, watermelons will grow in your stomach. True story; this is why seedless watermelons were created.
@KDemo Nu huh. That one is true.
You mean that they were created so that people couldn't swallow watermelon seeds to get pregnant?
If only Communist China knew that, they would have been able to just ban seeded watermelons, instead of enacting those harsh population control laws...