Not answering you exactly but
It probably matters what you are doing on it.
Gaming would probably give you a different answer than just office style productivity which would probably give you a different answer than streaming videos and music.
Hey they are really about the same! That also goes for Dell & HP!
Yes it depends on what you want to use it for.
I say look for a Laptop with an AMD cpu. (Yes I have a desktop- I built with AMD & a 13" AMD based MSI laptop too) You get more bang for your buck! Hey I am a Computer Mechanic (doing corporate Hardware repair- NOT Help Desk-Phone support!) I also suggest looking at the brand MSI that make a lot of internal parts of many of the computers out there.
But for me – I use a Refreb / Open Box Mac laptop. they LAST so much longer & Less issues with Securty.
We suffered thru wonky behavior with an Asus laptop, but that was several years ago now.
Lenovo has a reputation as a reliable brand; we have a new-ish P-51 mobile workstation purchased used (still under warranty) on eBay last summer. So far performance & behavior has been great, but haven’t pushed its envelope at all.
HP has different lines. The durable business-class laptops have metal frames (not plastic). I think it is called the “Presario” line. It targets business users for desktop replacements and the remote workforce (what we used to call “telecommuting” pre-COVID).
They will have features like biometrics (fingerprint readers, facial recognition) and smartcard readers intended for business use. If you don’t need those, look for “prosumer” lines/models that lower cost by not having those features.
I’ve also heard very good things about the Lenovo Yoga business class laptops. FYI - Lenovo used to be IBM, but has been sold to China. If that’s a thing for you.
The real IBM’s, the Thinkpad series have also been high quality builds.
Then again, my daily driver laptop is an Acer 17" I bought from Walmart in 2008 for $400.
@mike808 I bought a cheap Acer for a similar price in 2006, but the build quality was terrible. The hinges were cracked within six months. I shipped it back for warranty repair and the new hinges were cracked a few months later.
Later, I killed my hard drive pressing too hard on the case to the right of the track pad. The whole housing was too thin and flexible.
I replaced it with a refurbished business-class laptop a couple of years later. That one lasted me a decade with minor repairs. It still works, but one side was crushed a couple of years ago when I did not adequately protect it from airline baggage handlers.
@Limewater Mine is a desktop replacement, not a road warrior/travel kit. So it didn’t get abuse. It had an ancient Pentium P6000 that I’ve swapped out for the last compatible CPU, an i5-M560 (1st gen Core CPUs). I swapped the slim CDROM drive for an insert with the original 2.5in 320GB main hard drive, and put in a 120GB SSD as the primary. I also upgraded the 3GB (2+1) to the 8GB max (4+4), and got an aftermarket battery extender (2 hrs full blast after upgrades).
Runs Win10 just fine for surfing and managing household e-paperwork. I have a main ITX unit (about the size of 2 shoeboxes stacked) built for storage, DVR (HDHomerun), transcoding (MCEBuddy), serving media (Plex), occasional games (RTX1060), curating the digital family pictures library (10K images). SWMBO has a refurb HP desktop for her writing business.
@compunaut@darkzrobe Yeah. My perception of Precisions is similar to @darkzrobe’s.
I’m an electrical engineer primarily working in embedded software. I need something well-built and portable with a lot of RAM and a good processor because I’m going back and forth between my office and a lab bench a lot. I do a lot of processor-intensive stuff, but don’t tend to do a lot of graphically-demanding stuff. They typically give the electrical engineers Latitudes.
They tend to give the mechanical engineers Precisions, though, because they spend a lot of time in more graphically-intensive CAD programs. They’re definitely less portable, and seem to me like they’d be slightly less likely to survive a fall.
@darkzrobe@Limewater I have a Precision as a full-time desktop replacement; has CAD loaded that I don’t use anymore.
Seems to be much sturdier than other Dells I have come across but I don’t remember if they were Latitude class.
Still prefer my previous ZBook, tho. Company provides the computing asset and required an ‘upgrade’; I think somebody received a ‘favor’ from Dell.
@compunaut@darkzrobe I’ve never even really given HP a try in the business-class laptop market. Everywhere I have worked has been standardized on Dells. When I was looking a long time ago, Lenovo and Dell seemed to be the highest rated for build quality outside of explicitly ruggedized laptops, so I stuck with Dell.
Maybe I should give HP a look.
EDIT: And I just looked at the HP Business Outlet. They do not make it easy to buy a laptop from them. It’s basically lists of model numbers and prices with no specifications and then you have to submit orders by e-mail. I am definitely not in their target market.
Well, when it comes to laptops, both the brands - Lenovo and Asus are neck-to-neck in almost every parameter - be it the durability of the internal hardware components installed, be it their warranty terms and conditions, be it the cost and availability of after-sales service. Service centres of both the manufacturers are available in almost every city of the country.
Both the brands have some really deep pockets and they spend millions of dollars in R&D every year in improving their existing products and in inventing better cooling technologies to keep the CPU from throttling even at heavy loads. Developing technologically advanced hardware components that draw less power and less heat is also a domain the two brands spend heavily on.
Since Lenovo is a Communist Chinese company and the CCP is proven untrustworthy (see Huawei, for example), you’ll never find me buying Lenovo products.
Not answering you exactly but
It probably matters what you are doing on it.
Gaming would probably give you a different answer than just office style productivity which would probably give you a different answer than streaming videos and music.
Instead of making a broad overgeneralizing statement about two brands, would it be possible to share the specific laptop models you are comparing?
I have had success w/ a couple of Asus laptops but it doesn’t mean I would shy away from Lenovo.
Hey they are really about the same! That also goes for Dell & HP!
Yes it depends on what you want to use it for.
I say look for a Laptop with an AMD cpu. (Yes I have a desktop- I built with AMD & a 13" AMD based MSI laptop too) You get more bang for your buck! Hey I am a Computer Mechanic (doing corporate Hardware repair- NOT Help Desk-Phone support!) I also suggest looking at the brand MSI that make a lot of internal parts of many of the computers out there.
But for me – I use a Refreb / Open Box Mac laptop. they LAST so much longer & Less issues with Securty.
I’ve had much better service experience from Lenovo on a thinkpad as compared to warranty work on the ASUS, which was painful.
We suffered thru wonky behavior with an Asus laptop, but that was several years ago now.
Lenovo has a reputation as a reliable brand; we have a new-ish P-51 mobile workstation purchased used (still under warranty) on eBay last summer. So far performance & behavior has been great, but haven’t pushed its envelope at all.
HP has different lines. The durable business-class laptops have metal frames (not plastic). I think it is called the “Presario” line. It targets business users for desktop replacements and the remote workforce (what we used to call “telecommuting” pre-COVID).
They will have features like biometrics (fingerprint readers, facial recognition) and smartcard readers intended for business use. If you don’t need those, look for “prosumer” lines/models that lower cost by not having those features.
I’ve also heard very good things about the Lenovo Yoga business class laptops. FYI - Lenovo used to be IBM, but has been sold to China. If that’s a thing for you.
The real IBM’s, the Thinkpad series have also been high quality builds.
Then again, my daily driver laptop is an Acer 17" I bought from Walmart in 2008 for $400.
@mike808 I bought a cheap Acer for a similar price in 2006, but the build quality was terrible. The hinges were cracked within six months. I shipped it back for warranty repair and the new hinges were cracked a few months later.
Later, I killed my hard drive pressing too hard on the case to the right of the track pad. The whole housing was too thin and flexible.
I replaced it with a refurbished business-class laptop a couple of years later. That one lasted me a decade with minor repairs. It still works, but one side was crushed a couple of years ago when I did not adequately protect it from airline baggage handlers.
@Limewater Mine is a desktop replacement, not a road warrior/travel kit. So it didn’t get abuse. It had an ancient Pentium P6000 that I’ve swapped out for the last compatible CPU, an i5-M560 (1st gen Core CPUs). I swapped the slim CDROM drive for an insert with the original 2.5in 320GB main hard drive, and put in a 120GB SSD as the primary. I also upgraded the 3GB (2+1) to the 8GB max (4+4), and got an aftermarket battery extender (2 hrs full blast after upgrades).
Runs Win10 just fine for surfing and managing household e-paperwork. I have a main ITX unit (about the size of 2 shoeboxes stacked) built for storage, DVR (HDHomerun), transcoding (MCEBuddy), serving media (Plex), occasional games (RTX1060), curating the digital family pictures library (10K images). SWMBO has a refurb HP desktop for her writing business.
Business Laptops:
HP=Probook
Dell=Latitude
Lenovo=Thinkpad
They are all usually bulletproof. I dont usually recommend “gaming” laptops.
@darkzrobe HP Zbook and Dell Precision are even more ‘pro’ (and usually more $$) than ‘business’ class…
@compunaut I find they are more compute and much hotter and less portable. I guess those would be the gaming laptops of bussiness.
@compunaut @darkzrobe Yeah. My perception of Precisions is similar to @darkzrobe’s.
I’m an electrical engineer primarily working in embedded software. I need something well-built and portable with a lot of RAM and a good processor because I’m going back and forth between my office and a lab bench a lot. I do a lot of processor-intensive stuff, but don’t tend to do a lot of graphically-demanding stuff. They typically give the electrical engineers Latitudes.
They tend to give the mechanical engineers Precisions, though, because they spend a lot of time in more graphically-intensive CAD programs. They’re definitely less portable, and seem to me like they’d be slightly less likely to survive a fall.
@darkzrobe @Limewater I have a Precision as a full-time desktop replacement; has CAD loaded that I don’t use anymore.
Seems to be much sturdier than other Dells I have come across but I don’t remember if they were Latitude class.
Still prefer my previous ZBook, tho. Company provides the computing asset and required an ‘upgrade’; I think somebody received a ‘favor’ from Dell.
@compunaut they are priced very similarly with the right vendor. I think dells are easier to manage from a sysadmin side of the house.
@compunaut @darkzrobe I’ve never even really given HP a try in the business-class laptop market. Everywhere I have worked has been standardized on Dells. When I was looking a long time ago, Lenovo and Dell seemed to be the highest rated for build quality outside of explicitly ruggedized laptops, so I stuck with Dell.
Maybe I should give HP a look.
EDIT: And I just looked at the HP Business Outlet. They do not make it easy to buy a laptop from them. It’s basically lists of model numbers and prices with no specifications and then you have to submit orders by e-mail. I am definitely not in their target market.
@compunaut @Limewater I have good luck looking for that model number and buying used.
Well, when it comes to laptops, both the brands - Lenovo and Asus are neck-to-neck in almost every parameter - be it the durability of the internal hardware components installed, be it their warranty terms and conditions, be it the cost and availability of after-sales service. Service centres of both the manufacturers are available in almost every city of the country.
Both the brands have some really deep pockets and they spend millions of dollars in R&D every year in improving their existing products and in inventing better cooling technologies to keep the CPU from throttling even at heavy loads. Developing technologically advanced hardware components that draw less power and less heat is also a domain the two brands spend heavily on.
@fletcher110 @fletcher115
Will the other fletchers be joining soon?
@Ignorant I’m sure the great army of fletcherbots are busy elsewhere. Clones 50 and 100 are on Reddit:
I’d look for the others, but I get bored easily. I’m sure there must be a Fletcher somewhere that was the original, but who knows which he/she is.
Since Lenovo is a Communist Chinese company and the CCP is proven untrustworthy (see Huawei, for example), you’ll never find me buying Lenovo products.
(Asus HQ is in Taiwan.)