Take the 4Runner down some dirt tracks far beyond where the RVs and fake SUVs go and set up camp for a few days next to a quietly babbling creek. Proper camp stove, espresso pot, beer and wine chilled in the creek, maybe fresh fish and berries and mushrooms if we’re lucky. Ahhhh …
@stolicat While I have’t been at this park I am watching the glacier field retreat (via photos) of a place in Germany where we took students (DoDDS outdoor program) on each course to hike up the glacier. Sad.
I was at a family reunion once and asked where the drinks were. My uncle pointed at a canvas structure held up with poles and rope stating, “In the tent”. I went under this awe-inspiring form, got my drink, and exited quickly as to not be snared in some Wile E. Coyote style trap.
I did not personally hate my camping experience, but I’m not too crazy to try it again. I mean, maybe if I was thirsty.
@haydesigner How about sleeping on the snow then? That’s not, technically, the ground. When I worked in NW Ontario we’d sleep on the snow with a tarp over us (dug down a bit so there was a wall of snow) on the frozen lakes (temps were generally 20-60 below at night). Was really cool to hear the noise of the ice shifting (sounds sort of like blowing across a pop bottle) as that noise when zipping across the lake. It was otherwise so quiet due to the snow muffling noise that you could hear your heart beat.
Pickle Creek Preserve near Perryville, MO, next to Hawn State Park (which is also cool, but Pickle Creek is an amazing 2 mile walk just jammed with geological features amd vistas).
The Little Grand Canyon in Illinois across from St. Genevieve is also very cool.
For Missouri, there is a great book, “60 hikes within 60 Miles: St. Louis” that is chock full of great park experiences. There are similar titles for other vities too.
I did some Boy Scout camping, but I don’t think I’ve done it as an adult. I’ve spent some nights in cabins at the Grand Canyon and Yellowstone, but they were more like motor court rooms. The cabin at the North Rim was a duplex, and I could clearly hear the people in the other half talking all night.
I want to go into the boundary Waters for like two weeks. But of course finding the right person to do that with where it’s not complete hell and constant bitching’ especially with the route I originally plotted is hard.
@Kidsandliz looks nice. I wanted to do a big loop on the US side toward the East. It was def too agressive to take kids. Hard day of paddling and some rough water then two days at each stop. Significant portaging.
Would still be a nice vacation just going in a bit
@unksol Also be too hard on the kids if you had steady head winds too - although we rafted up the students and rigged some tarp sails using paddles and rope. That was fun. We were “sailing” that night and watching the northern lights most of the night. Really, really special.
@hammi99 One of my sisters thinks she is roughing it at a Holiday Inn Express. I am not sure this is actually the same person I grew up with though because as kids each summer our family spent a month camping (campgrounds, parks and forests) going to all sorts of cool places. We had a blast back then.
When I used to take people camping for a living I’d sometimes joke I wanted a 5 pound mobile home with electricity and running water (I’d spend 260-300 some days in a tent those years), but there were times where using tents and tarps were perfect.
Once taking students we had tarps up. We had gone for an evening walk and came back to a very young, small bunny all settled in for the night on the sleeping bag under one student’s tarp. We felt so guilty startling it so that it ran off at 11pm when it though it was set for the night. We had been discussing how to rearrange sleeping so that baby could stay in it’s little nest all night.