What's your controversial food opinion?
13I saw this on Twitter, and I figured there are plenty of folks in the Meh community who have opinions about food, some of which make other people question your sanity even.
One of my favorites from the threads was “People just pretend to hate pineapple on pizzas because it’s accepted wisdom online”.
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I agree pineapple on pizza is rad. My favorite is a pineapple, onion, bacon pizza.
@Targaryen I personally love pineapple and pepperoni. Hate pineapple and ham, or Hawaiian. Yuck.
@Targaryen Banana peppers and pineapple. The best.
@Targaryen @themutilator I love grilled pineapple, but just does not work for me on a pizza.
Now consider I love it wrapped in melty cheese, with some grilled tomato, and it starts approaching the pizza realm …
@Targaryen @stolicat @riotdemon @themutilator I’m partial to the ordinary canadian-bacon-and-pineapple pizza, but canadian-bacon-and-aluminum-shavings pizza is much better than you’d assume.
@Targaryen I hate pineapple in general… it ruins almost everything it comes into contact with… with the Lone exception of Sweet and Sour (insert animal here) but I’ll still leave the chunks of pineapple on the plate.
@Targaryen I actually like pineapple tidbits in my chili!
@tinamarie1974 Interesting.
@Targaryen I know it sounds really, REALLY weird. A friend got me to start making mine that way. He told me AFTER I ate his. Had he told me before I may not have tried it.
@Targaryen we’ve been doing pineapple and jalapenos lately
@Targaryen I like pizza. I like pineapple. I like pizza with pineapple. But I’d like pizza without pineapple even better, ceteris paribus. In fact, if you give me pizza with pineapple, I’d probably just pull the pineapple off and eat it separately, kinda like for dessert. There are just so many other combinations of toppings I’d prefer.
cereal is a soup.
@carl669 But if you add fruit, it’s pie.
@rockblossom soup pie? i am intrigued by your hypothesis and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
@carl669 Or pie soup. It depends on the quantity and level of fluffiness of the dairy ingredients.
@carl669 @rockblossom If you think about it differently, one could view cereal with milk and fruit as a deconstruction of a cream pie. That’s very avant-garde.
/image deconstructed pie
@carl669 - Cereal without liquid is cereal.
(How is that for controversial?)
@carl669 @rockblossom Does melted vanilla ice cream make it pie soup too?
@Kidsandliz @rockblossom ain’t no fruit in vanilla ice cream. besides, i think most people refer to it as a shake.
@carl669 @Kidsandliz Well, yes. But if you add eggs it’s a chess pie. Or eggnog. But a chess pie is just baked eggnog anyway. Or add cream cheese and it’s a cheesecake, which is actually a pie, not a cake.
@carl669 you put the ice cream on warm pie and it melts to get your soup broth. Don’t need a shake for that. My way is easier.
@Kidsandliz i’m down with that. bring on the pie soup!
@carl669 @rockblossom Soup pie? We must be talking about a “chicken pot pie”? With a generous sprinkling of Tony Chachere’s on top. The thought is making me salivate.
@carl669 @rockblossom
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@carl669 @rockblossom
Carnuba wax is used in shoe polish, Tic-Tacs, car wax, floor polish, Peeps, hand grenades, and semiconductors. I don’t classify any of them as “food”.
@rockblossom Don’t forget Candy Corn!
@rockblossom It’s also used in medicine.
Water is the primary ingredient of the insecticide I spray to keep bugs out of my house. Be careful out there!
@Limewater @rockblossom that dihydrogen monoxide is a killer!
@carl669 @Limewater It’s toxic if you ingest too much and even worse if you breathe it!
@rockblossom I don’t think anyone considers peeps to be “food”. Car wax sure. That’s at least edible.
You only need to eat potatoes when you spend all day hoeing potatoes.
If your pumpkin pie cracks in the shape of a smile, and a child named Sky pokes in their finger to make two eyes, that is known as “Sky in the pie”.
/giphy controversial pie
/image controversial pie
that eating the tails of the shrimp is delicious.
@moonhat That depends on whether they were deep fried in batter- them’s yummy and crunchy too; or steamed/boiled/raw- They’s yuck, yucky, and yuckier…
a peanut butter and jelly sandwich is a fantastic way to ruin a peanut butter sandwich.
/giphy horrified
Corn is a grade-A, phenomenal, must-have pizza topping.
It’s extremely common in Latin America (ham and corn is more popular than pepperoni where I’ve been) and I’ve heard they offer it in the southwestern US, but I ask for it anywhere else and you’d think I purposely kicked a puppy.
Thankfully, about a year ago I found a Brazilian pizza shop nearby that offers it. I get a bro nod and a wink when I order.
@jester747 interesting…
@jester747 @tinamarie1974 …and bizarre, and [Ready for my controversial food opinion]: why would anyone think that Latin Americans would have any rational business deciding what accoutrements are apropos on pizza…
They only have the last part of the name correct [in common with the country of people who really put pizza on the map] the whole correct name is “The US of America”!
/giphy pizza inventor
@jester747 @PhysAssist I would agree. Several years ago I had a friend visiting from Mexico. One night I made salsiccia and homemade feutticci alfredo; I needed something simple and fast.
I will never forget that he took a few bites, asked if I had any “ketchup of tomato”, added it, mixed it around and told me how delicious it was. Grossed me out, but it was a dish he was not familiar with and it worked for him.
He was sincere, still today when we speak he asks if I will come visit and make it for him again lol.
Moral don’t visit China looking for borscht lol
@jester747 if you have a Casey’s anywhere near you…check out their “Midwestern” Pizza…
“starts with Sweet Baby Rays BBQ Sauce, Kansas City pulled pork, then topped with fire roasted corn, bacon, and Plenty of 100% mozzarella cheese”
SOOO GOOD!..
@earlyre @jester747 Fake. True Midwestern BBQ za has Provel. And cut in squares. And yes, we have Casey’s here.
These are the midwest pizzas to look for:
Lucia’s Four Hands Pizzas
@mike808, hey, the only reason i brought it up, is b/c @jester747 was talking about corn as a topping…
the casey’s pie i mentioned is the only commercial pizza i’ve seen with corn.
also… there’s a lot more to the Midwest than just St.Louis…which is about the ONLY place you’ll find provel.( had to look it up…if anyone else is wondering…https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provel_cheese)
@earlyre @jester747 The corn thing sounds a bit too “Indiana” for me, is all. Sweet Baby Ray’s is a KC style BBQ, and I’m not a fan. I want some vinegar or acidity in my sauce to cut the fattiness of the BBQ.
Roasted corn on the grill is common, so I can see where putting it on a pizza isn’t a stretch.
Especially if you used fire-roasted corn on the pizza, it is probably a really interesting flavor boost. Pairing that with a BBQ pizza is not that bad an idea. There’s a Casey’s over the river in Illinois, so next time I’m that way, I’ll try a slice.
@earlyre @jester747 I would eat that. Mostly because I put my own pulled pork on pizza though. It gets nice and crispy almost like bacon. The rest sounds good too though. I might throw some sharp cheddar in there. Maybe some mushrooms. Any pork is good on pizza.
@tinamarie1974 re: Ketchup. I’m with ya’. Down here, in the Mexican Costco, the locals get a slice of pizza at the snack bar, then head over to the condiments to spray ketchup all over it. <shivver>
And while we’re on the subject of ketchup… Fries? Absolutely! But hot dogs? Not if you’ve over the age of about 10.
@simssj ooh, so I’m perpetually ten! Nice!
There is nothing wrong with dipping cold vegetables like string beans, carrots, broccoli or celery in honey.
@readnj yes. Yes there is
Licorice is wonderful.
@Limewater specially strawberry!
@Limewater disagree. But that is the point, right?
@PhysAssist That stuff isn’t licorice.
@Limewater i love licorice.
@Limewater
dutch licorice
but not the salted stuff
@Limewater
/giphy just your opinion
@PhysAssist That’s the title of the thread, dude.
@Limewater Nope, it’s NOT…
It’s Controversial food opinion…
Not incorrect food opinion [J.K.]
Food in bed.
@mike808 No, offense, but that’s what you call an opinion?
“Food is another thing that is good to eat in bed” Now there’s an opinion, that some might call controversial…
/giphy good food
/giphy in bed
@tinamarie1974 FYI/BTW, I started by putting all those words together, but that there’s phrase that conjured any number of salacious images- and so I had to separate them.
I started with “food good in bed”, then after numerous edits had to break up good food in bed to the 2 current phrases to stay G-PG in scope.
@PhysAssist @tinamarie1974
/giphy eating food in bed
@PhysAssist I am still sleepy and was wondering why you separated them. Did not even cross my mind. I mist be tired
@mike808 Nicely done!
A hot dog is a sandwich.
@ThatsHeadly Naw, it’s a kind of taco or open-face burrito…
@ThatsHeadly If you separate the top and bottom parts of the bun before adding the filler, it’s a sandwich.
@rockblossom @ThatsHeadly What if you’re separating the left and the right parts of the bun?
@Limewater @ThatsHeadly Then the filler would fall on the floor!
Jelly and powdered chocolate milk sandwich. Beer mimosa for drink.
/giphy powdered wut?
Best condiment for French fries is tartar sauce. But only good tartar sauce.
@lordbowen That’s just mayonnaise that’s been tarted up a bit.
@lordbowen I prefer hollandaise on fries (the real stuff made with egg yolk and drawn butter). Or bearnaise
@lordbowen @ybmuG Everything y’all are talking about is super-gross, except for french fries. I don’t even allow mayonnaise in my house.
@lordbowen I’d put tartar sauce after a Wendy’s Frosty, but it’s close.
@lordbowen @mike808 …and untarted mayo is the best FF dip, except for my arteries…
@Limewater Meaning no offense, but WHAT’s WRONG WITH YOU???
Whilst I agree that adding any kind of pickles to mayo is super-gross, mayo itself is the supreme condiment, loosely followed by horsey sauce, catsup, and then mustard.
@Limewater it’s ok. You’re allowed to be defective
@PhysAssist What is wrong with me is that I have a functional sense of smell.
There is a place up the road from my house that specializes in chicken salad. I don’t even like to drive past it.
@unksol And you’re allowed to like things that suck.
@Limewater this is also true
@lordbowen
nyet
Ranch Dressing FTW
@Limewater
/giphy just your opinion
Although I agree, chicken in any [other] form smells just horrible…
Don’t like catsup.
/giphy catsup
@f00l how do you feel about ketchup?
@UncleVinny
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@f00l
/giphy cats down
@f00l @UncleVinny FWIW, tomato catsup is a relatively recent invention: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/food/the-plate/2014/04/21/how-was-ketchup-invented/
…and per thar article, Mayo is still the #1 condiment in the US…
/giphy I like mayonnaise
@PhysAssist shhh don’t tell @limewater
@UncleVinny that cat better be named mayonnaise. If not I’ll be very disappointed.
@f00l @PhysAssist @UncleVinny for me it’s mayo and peanut butter on crackers
@f00l @PhysAssist @UncleVinny @yorkrk that’s a weird name for a cat
@yorkrk I haven’t tried that, but I will…
The only barely weird food opinion I have is that applesauce is amazing on vanilla ice cream. People get all freaked out about it, but it’s like a short-cut to apple pie. And I am taking that short cut.
@UncleVinny I concur, but if you like applesauce on 'nilla I-scream, try some apple butter on it- it’s like 151 proof applesauce with a much higher flavor profile- like condensed apple pie [or sauce]…
@UncleVinny are you using the cinnamon spiced applesauce?
@physassist ooooh apple butter is awesome, I haven’t tried that but I will.
@RiotDemon I’m not particular, but my favorite (maybe for sentimental reasons) is applesauce my mom makes. Her recipe couldn’t be simpler: just grab whatever apples look good at the store, peel and core, then boil a while. It stays kind of chunky that way. She freezes a ton of it for me every year.
Cinnamon and sugar are definitely welcome, though!
VAN MURALS! GROUND SQUIRRELS! SPIT CURLS! AWESOME!
@UncleVinny from your recommendation, I will try this eventually.
@RiotDemon @UncleVinny 1) Why would anyone eat any applesauce made without cinnamon?
2) It IS indeed, and it’s also very good and healthy to eat.
3) My M-I-L makes applesauce especially for me that is completely without any chunks, and with 2-3 times the cinnamon she generally uses…
/giphy YUM
Cheese cake is overrated.
@luvche21 I associate cheesecake so strongly with The Golden Girls that I can’t help but always think of it as “girl food.”
That’s probably not the kind of controversy you were looking for, though.
@luvche21 although I cheese cake, is it really a cake? I mean it is a closer match from a consistency POV to say panna cotta
@tinamarie1974 I just don’t like it at all. If I want cheese I’ll eat good cheese. If I want a dessert, I’ll eat good dessert. Not some weird hybrid that doesn’t quite satisfy either.
@luvche21
depends on who makes it
NY style can be too dry
Anchovies on pizza are wonderful.
@mehcuda67 Anything using little hairy fish as bite-sized salty umame bombs works. Green olives can sub in a pinch.
Vanilla ice cream with a few drops of balsamic vinegar is great.
@mehcuda67 or strawberries w balsamic… so yummy
@mehcuda67 Especially that Cavedoni elixir that is woot-famous. Reminds me to keep an eye out, as Im on my last bottle. It usually comes up this time of year.
@mehcuda67 @mike808 I have seen it before, is it really worth the expense?
@mehcuda67 Well, crap. It’s already up. There’s a hipster flavored “flight” package available.
https://wine.woot.com/offers/cavedoni-mixed-vinegar-5-9
But even better, is the really good stuff, the Ducale for $75/btl.
https://wine.woot.com/offers/cavedoni-ducale-italian-balsamic-1-5
@mehcuda67
chocolate balsamic
never buy vinegar that doesn’t tell you it’s sugar content. it may not be aged long enough and have added sugar to make it sweeter.
I buy mine from an award winning olive oil company (never featured on woot) who imports their balsamic and the guy who mills the olives also blends the flavored balsamic
I don’t know, I guess people are always incredulous when I tell them that borscht is delicious and that they should have some borscht. But it might just be the same handful of people I keep on telling about borscht.
@mossygreen Borscht is awesome! I’ve made it. It’s a LOT of work.
POPSOCKETS! SPA KITS! POLLY POCKETS! AWESOME!
Food is jewelry! Hanh!
@PocketBrain
@PocketBrain That makes me think of all those people who learned to count by putting olives on their fingers. I personally think olives taste like wet and moldy black licorice. The funny thing is that I’m okay with black licorice if I eat a little. Also, olives are okay if they’re cooked on a pizza. That goes for mushrooms too.
@PocketBrain
Sweet potato fries are terrible, and always worse than regular fries.
@zachdecker amen brother
@zachdecker Agree
@zachdecker sweet potatoes in general, I’d say
@spitfire6006006 @zachdecker there’s not many things that I can’t stand in a food, and it’s normally the texture. Sweet potatoes and yams are a no go for me
Adding some chopped dill pickles (preferably hamburger slices) to a bowl of potato soup makes the soup extra yummy.
The idea of this addition goes back to at least my great-grandparents on my dad’s side.
@msklzannie That sounds amazing.
@mossygreen It is. I usually get strange looks when I tell people how we eat it, but if they try it they discover it’s delicious.
@msklzannie i did not know not putting pickles in potato salad was a thing. You really need the acid content.
@unksol potato soup, not potato salad
@msklzannie whoops. Now that’s interesting.
Putting those nasty things called walnuts in wonderful, creamy chocolate fudge is a crime.
My mother in law sends fudge every year and every year I ask for no walnuts. I think she puts in extra walnuts. My husband loves them so I guess he trumps me in her eyes as perhaps he should.
@tnhillbillygal i feel the same about walnuts in chicken salad. wtf? if you want crunch, put in some fucking celery.
@carl669 @tnhillbillygal
For me, if I want crunchy salad, I’ll add carrots or more iceberg. Celery to me tastes like a fart from a skunk with food poisoning.
@carl669 @thejackalope @tnhillbillygal
Celery has zero taste. Oh, it has one, delicious.
@carl669 @tnhillbillygal Or some sort of nuts.
@carl669 @iancorporated @tnhillbillygal
/giphy ants on a log
@carl669 @iancorporated @tnhillbillygal
giphy for the win!
@carl669 @iancorporated @tnhillbillygal
Hey, a new mediocrebot trigger? cool.
A soft homemade Toll House cookie chased with a hoppy IPA is heavenly. Sweet, chocolaty, buttery with a citrusy bitter chaser - mmm!
@macromeh Challenge accepted.
There are four types of pizza which are basically different foods altogether. Freshly made pizza, cold pizza, and microwaved pizza, and tock hard pizza that has been cooled down after being microwaved.
There are two types of food. Food that you have to open after you buy it, like pistachios, peanuts, sunflower seeds and lobster. Also, what’s up with ordering Fajitas? Why does that seem to be the only food you order at a nice restaurant that you still have to assemble yourself? I’ve never understood that. Plus, I never get enough tortillas to make more than two fajitas. Also, I rarely have enough space on the table to both put together the fajitas and not burn my hands on the smouldering hot cast iron pan that the meat comes in.
@iancorporated It’s always bugged me. That feels good to get off my chest.
@iancorporated Unrelated, but recently I had saganaki served on a fajita platter, and it was really good. Totally justified the existence of fajitas.
@iancorporated what REALLY bugs me about restaurants that serve fajitas is that growing up as a kid in South Texas, fajita was a cut of beef - not a dish. It came from the diaphragm (think skirt steak) of the cow. Not ever butcher sold it. It was the cut you ate when you couldn’t afford real steak. It was cheap because it was barely edible because it was filled with fiber. But, if you took the time to remove all the silverskin and marinate it before cooking it was almost edible. You put it in a tortilla to make the piece of fajita go further (like feed 4 people instead of 2). You can’t cut a fajita off a chicken - chicken diaphragms are so small there wouldn’t be any meat and vegetables don’t have a diaphragms so they can’t have a fajita cut either.
I hesitate to say this, knowing that it may get screams, but - I really don’t love chocolate. I don’t hate it, but it just isn’t high on my list of favorite flavors. I don’t like chocolate ice cream or chocolate syrup on the top of ice cream. I’m not fond of brownies or chocolate chip cookies. I am not the least bit excited by boxes of chocolate candies. I shudder at the thought of a chocolate fountain. I like Willy Wonka, but have no wish to visit his factory.
There. I’ve said it. I think I’ll go have a nice bowl of vanilla ice cream now.
@rockblossom
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@rockblossom vanilla ice cream is the best ice cream.
Since I love chocolate, it boggles me when people don’t like it, but I don’t like licorice and there’s tons of people who love that stuff.
@rockblossom I do enjoy vanilla. I also like chocolate. But you’re not the first person I’ve heard of who doesn’t like chocolate. So I guess you’re not weird. There are more of you out there
@rockblossom
chocolate or chocolate candy?
they don’t taste at all the same. If you have never had cacao before a candy or confectioner gets a hold of it, you have never had paradise
@rockblossom
My MIL claimed my FIL was allergic to chocolate. Ok. People can be allergic to anything.
But.
Then she serves red velvet cake for his birthday…
Seriously.
After she went and googled a recipe for red velvet cake, Dad now gets a vanilla cake.
@rockblossom @sarahsandroid so what happened with the red velvet cake? Did he eat it? Did someone warn him it had chocolate?
@RiotDemon @sarahsandroid more importantly was she trying to kill him
@unksol
I am weird, and there are, indeed, more people like me out there. I hope there are not literally “more of me” out there because that would be really weird, even for me.
There are many food preferences, special diets, allergies, and food fads around, but nothing has gotten me a group “you just kicked my puppy” glare like saying I don’t like chocolate.
@rockblossom why are you kicking my imaginarie puppy? I didn’t even want him.
Stuffing (“dressing” cooked in the turkey) is how Thanksgiving and all roasted turkey should always be done. There are ways to do it properly so the bird isn’t overcooked and there’s no food poisoning danger. Stuffing is great! Dressing is for salads.
@duodec Yes, it’s called cooking the dressing first.
However, most people aren’t fastidious about food safety. We’ve gotten complacent with modern culinary technology and a robust taxpayer-funded FDA that actually cares about not allowing capitalist hucksters to sell poison and call it “food”.
And then there’s Darwin awards for those who revel in their ignorance.
@mike808
capitalist hucksters selling poison? Where did that come from?
Cooking a food does not always simply consist of heating it to a fixed temperature. The pre-heat prevents the stuffing and interior of the turkey from lingering in the unsafe temp zone for too long, as can happen with a large bird and cool stuffing. It is not cooked; it is not ready to eat (though probably edible).
Prior to using AB’s suggestion of the microwave preheated cheesecloth wrapped stuffing bundle, our turkeys used to be stuffed with bread/sage stuffing fresh out of the preparatory cookpot, so already hot. Pretty much the same effect. Any that doesn’t fit in the bird is baked in a casserole with some extra turkey stock; it is still good but not up to the stuffing cooked in the bird.
Folks have been doing this for a very long time. We’ve never had a problem with stuffing poultry to cook, ever. My grandparents did this with turkeys they hunted, or raised on their farm when FDA and USDA regulations were far less prevalent. Wood burning, then coal oven for many years until they renovated the farmhouse and got electric. They knew what they were doing without .gov regulating every action and every step.
We’re not going to forego our family recipes and traditions because people who don’t know what they’re doing do stupid things, or because it has become fashionable to badmouth some cooking methods and recipes.
Happy Thanksgiving!
@duodec Yes, there are ways of cooking things properly. Unfortunately, not everyone is capable of or understands the science of cooking foid so that it doesn’t kill you. That is why advocating everyone do as you do isn’t such a hot idea - it puts people at risk and creates liability for you. It is, in part, why we have health inspections at restaurants, and food recalls and warning labels. There is a public safety interest in any advocacy.
Your experience doesn’t translate to a general rule safe for everyone to follow.
That has nothing to do with your individual skill and experience in cooking stuffed birds, which sound delicious. I also grew up around stuffed game and celebrating the bounty of the fall harvest and preparing foodstocks to last the winter.
Technology and the modern world have eliminated the need for that these days, making your family’s (and my family’s) skill/experience in cooking stuffed birds even more rare. That puts people at risk to blindly advocate everyone should do things the way you do, because most people don’t have that experience to know “how to properly cook a stuffed bird”.
That said, there will always be those worthy recipients for Darwin awards, no matter how much public safety education there is.
@mike808
Then I fear we must be rid of such things as fresh chicken, raw meats, vegetables that actually require washing before use, unpasteurized milk, fresh eggs… perhaps everyone should be required, by government regulation, to only purchase and consume processed foods that can be heated (not cooked) by pressing a button on an appliance, or else eating food only prepared by trained and government licensed cooks/chefs. Anything else might just be too risky for the poor masses.
While we’re at it, all those cookbooks out there providing instructions that the clueless might mis-use, misinterpret, or simply f*ck up. Something would have to be done about that too. Make them like car service manuals with giant disclaimers (usually about disconnecting power so the airbag doesn’t go off while you are performing 99% of the maintenance on the car)? Or maybe have a government ‘buyback’ of those dangerous Joy of Cooking books; God forbid some cooking illiterati actually tried to make a recipe from one.
@duodec I think we all have a good idea about how we now know which mushrooms are poisonous.
Darwin awards are never celebrated by the recipients, only the survivors.
It is a balance. Your family and my family worked out how to safely cook dressing inside the bird. That’s not an assumption we can make for everyone.
My noting exception to your absolute statement (everyone should cook dressing in the bird because you can/do) does not mean I am proposing the opposite of your statement in the absolute (nobody should be allowed to cook dressing in the bird because some can’t/don’t). It’s a straw man.
Quit being such a dick about things, @mike808. I swear, you just like to argue. LOL
@mike808 You did see the title of this topic? My opinion is not direction. I think anyone who doesn’t have stuffing in the turkey isn’t doing Thanksgiving (or roast turkey) right. But that’s my opinion. Be welcome to your apparently less controversial one.
There can never be too much garlic (or too much coffee for that matter, but that’s another thread)
Mustard in baked beans. Don’t knock it 'till you’ve tried it…!
@shahnm delicious!
@shahnm Yuck (but then I don’t like mustard).
Milk goes in the bowl before the cereal.
There is no logical rationalization for pouring milk on top of cereal. Fight me.
@whammy War Eagle, I presume?
@whammy I do both (so, I guess, wrong to both sides): I fill the bowl with cereal, then add milk until the cereal just doesn’t overflow. I eat the cereal, and there is quite a bit of milk left. So I add cereal to the milk. Repeat until bowl is empty (or cereal box is).
Oh - a quick story about me. Because of course you’re deeply interested…
When I was a kid, I read in a magazine (‘321 Contact’ or ‘Enter’ or some such nerd kid mag) about a sandwich that was totally delicious and absolutely necessary to eat right away.
So I asked my mom to make it for me. She said, basically, “No way. I am not making you a banana and mustard sandwich. That’s disgusting!”
I was adamant and insistent. She finally caved and made me the sandwich. To my surprise, it was…
Execrable. Nasty. No good terrible horrible very much bad.
I ate the whole thing. I hated it, but I was proud.
In fact, for most of the next year, whenever a sandwich was in the offing, I requested the banana and mustard sandwich. And I ate every damn one. Because pride.
The moral of the story?
This, friends, is how you end up on Meh every night after midnight. Let this be a lesson to all.
@shahnm
I left out a minor detail.
After choking down the first mustard and banana sandwich (which I recall my mom made with Gulden’s spicy brown mustard), I went back to the recipe in the magazine to make sure it wasn’t a hoax or something.
It turned out that the recipe was indeed real. It’s just that I had somehow mixed up the word marshmallow with mustard. I don’t know why. It’s not an error I had ever made previously or since. I ate a lot of really crappy sandwiches because of that mistake… And pride.
On a related not-really-a-controversial-opinion-but note, my father occasionally made my school lunch, and when he did it sometimes contained peanut butter and onion sandwiches. They are surprisingly edible, with a nice crunch to them, but it was a definite inspiration to pack my own lunch.
@shahnm That reminds me of a story about my dad. Once when I was a kid, we were eating in a restaurant. Dad was reading a newspaper, blindly reached for what he thought was a container of cream, and proceeded to put ketchup in his coffee. When we razzed him about it, he insisted that he intended to do it and drank the whole cup, proclaiming how tasty it was. Funny guy, my dad.
@macromeh Am… Am I your dad…?
@shahnm I doubt it - I don’t recall any refrigerated batteries growing up.
Ok. Here’s my weird one: Hershey’s chocolate syrup spread on white bread and topped with parmesan cheese. I came up with that when I was about 6 years old and too many years later it’s still my most comforting comfort food.
@sarahsandroid You should definitely have this along side one of my not-quite-famous mustard and banana sandwiches…
My mother used to give us “Depression Dessert” It was white bread, margarine (never butter), and a pinch of white sugar. 3 of the worst possible foods you could eat - 3 foods rarely in my house - but man when you put them together mighty tasty.
@allergycheryl I’ve had that, only with cinnamon sugar.
@allergycheryl @msklzannie well that’s delicious but you should toast the bread first. I’m pretty sure that’s just called breakfast. And I have my grandma’s labeled cinnamon and sugar shaker from when she passed. It’s basically an heirloom.
@allergycheryl Wow that brings back a childhood memory. I’d forgotten about that. We used to have that as a treat when I was a kid. Loved it at the time. Now of course, like you, I don’t have those ingredients in the house. Thanks for the memory.
@msklzannie @unksol yeah but if you can afford to have cinnamon in the house it’s not Depression Dessert its cinnamon toast. My mother grew up in rural Alabama in the Depression. She still has a cookbook from the spice salesman. At that time, spices were sold door to door and the salesman would come every few months. She tells me stories about putting my brother (who is much older than I) in a little wagon and walking several miles to the closest general store where she would buy “groceries” which were basically just tins of things she didn’t can at home and sacks of goods like cornmeal and grits. White flour was a luxury. She says the store owner was a kind man that would always take pity on her and drive her, the wagon, and the groceries back home. I tell her he was just a smart businessman that knew she might buy more if she didn’t have to haul it herself LOL. So glad I wasn’t alive then - people had it tough but didn’t complain.
@allergycheryl @msklzannie true. She did make her own bread though.
@allergycheryl @msklzannie @unksol
The Greatest Generation…
@unksol We would butter the bread, sprinkle cinnamon sugar on it, and warm it up in the microwave.
@allergycheryl @duodec @msklzannie @unksol
The generation before The Greatest Generation was nothing to sneeze at.
My dad’s mom grew up as one of 13 kids in a farm. She raised her own chickens, had a veggie garden, hand washed the clothes, and cooked everything from scratch, without recipes mostly. She never formally measured ingredients. She just “knew”.
She was the best cook in her neighborhood.
Her husband, my grandad, left home and school after the 6th grade. He lied about his age and joined the Navy. He had been around the world twice by the time he was 22.
In spite of no education, he became a roundhouse foreman soon after he left the Navy and married. He became a nationwide railroad derailment specialist, and a special emergency train was kept on the ready for his derailment crew.
Due to his railroad and “informal engineering” skills, he always had work during the depression, tho they were certainly poor.
Well, I think I’ll go find a first world problem to complain about now.
/giphy first world problem.
Turkey is overrated.
@sohmageek
So is Grease.
@mike808 @sohmageek Maybe, but there are some pretty good beaches, and Hagia Sophia and the Parthenon are worth seeing.
@rockblossom @sohmageek
You do know what day it is?
@mike808 @rockblossom thursday.
@mike808 @sohmageek Still Thursday here, but it is already Friday in Turkey and Greece.
Ketchup on scrambled eggs is perfectly fine
@bobby555 ketchup on hot dogs is divine!
@bobby555 @duodec you’re a poet did you know it
Breakfast is not the most important meal of the day.
@therealjrn that is not controversial. More accepted knowledge
@therealjrn Second breakfast is …
@stolicat @therealjrn
Third?
@stolicat @therealjrn
“I don’t think he knows about second breakfast, Pip.”
@rockblossom @stolicat I know @f00l knows about second breakfast. Trust me, I just know, OK?
@rockblossom @stolicat @therealjrn
Shush I’m working on fourth breakfast right now please don’t disturb me.
@f00l @rockblossom @stolicat @therealjrn so you are a hobbit?!?!?!?! She says with excitement
@f00l @rockblossom @stolicat @therealjrn @tinamarie1974
What about elevenses?
@f00l @rockblossom @stolicat @tinamarie1974
Dammit @mike808 quit making up words!
:looks up elevenses: Well I’ll be…
@f00l @mike808 @rockblossom @stolicat @therealjrn yup! It is a thing. #LOTR
@mike808 @rockblossom @stolicat @therealjrn @tinamarie1974
Don’t forget Oneses and Threeses.
/giphy cakes
Pepperoni pizza is the worst pizza. I mean, I’ll eat it, but anything else is better. Even just cheese.
@medz You should try it with pineapple.
@medz @therealjrn If there’s pineapple on it, it isn’t pizza.
@duodec @therealjrn have. Pineapple good. Pepperoni bad.
@medz Maybe add some mustard and bananas. Might give you a whole new appreciation for pepperoni…
@shahnm lol
There is nothing wrong with MSG. There’s just a massive missinformation campaign. Umami is lovely.
@unksol That is no way controversial, my friend. Glutamates rule.
@therealjrn I agree with you but lots of other people still have that insane chinese restaurant syndrome stuck in their head
@therealjrn @unksol for the record there was a chinese restaurant near me when I was a kid (12 or 13) that was shut down because of the cat/dog carcasses found in their dumpster. Just sayin…
@therealjrn @tinamarie1974 well who doesn’t like a nice cat now and then. I’m looking at two of them right now
@therealjrn @tinamarie1974 not that I’d eat either. I’m sure ones to tough and the others too cute. She’s probably not even good in a soup
@therealjrn @unksol
@tinamarie1974 did you talk to her? I think she’s giving me a look
@unksol women have telepathy you know
@tinamarie1974 idk what she’s up to but she’s purched on the back of the couch and I can barely see her ears. I can only assume you have something to do with this.
@unksol
Beer sucks. All beer: Mass-market beer. Craft beer. Imported. Domestic. Home brew. It all sucks.
@simssj Not a beer fan, I see. Would you like some wine pairings with your Thanksgiving meal?
Or if you are a “Wine is fine, but liquor is quicker” person, some cocktail suggestions?
@mike808
Wine me anytime! Reds preferred but I’ll even stoop to a white zinfandel (which is, itself, a crime against nature) in a pinch.
A good sippin’ bourbon is always welcome. No such thing as a bad single malt Scottish whisky.
But beer… is just a waste of ingredients that could have been used to make a decent loaf of bread.
And why, if you made a generic, mass-market beer, would you have a large team of horses as your mascot, for God’s sake? Do you really want people associating your product with one of the products of horses?
@simssj this I agree with. Do not like beer.
@simssj
Then again, a pint of Guinness is like drinking a loaf of bread. Tastes like wet socks, so maybe that’s being a bit optimistic.
@RiotDemon @simssj
As for wine, wine.woot and now casemates have filled my basement “wine cellar” with something fun for every occasion. And I just got a case of Ty Caton’s good stuff to deepen the bench.
Although there is this New Glarus Sour Beer (cherry mostly) that is really good (for beer). Might bust it out with the turkey.
And then there is the original Belgian beer, gueuse, which actually tastes more like a bread wine if you can imagine that. Almost like a toasty champagne, but a simpler wheat-forward profile with no fruitiness, but a little nuttiness.
@mike808 @RiotDemon @simssj
trad brewed beer is said to contain decent nutritional value.