What's the worst (or best) thing about air travel?
4We’re flying this week. (I’ll tell you where we went when we get back.)
I’m ok with being on a plane. The combo of several anxiety inducing things should be hell for me, but they somehow converge into some sort of zen-like state of chill while we’re in the air.
Airports though. Airports are hell on Earth. TSA. Lost souls. Stress everywhere.
I loathe it.
What’s the worst part for you? Or the best?
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Making little fists with my toes after we land.
@therealjrn I do that the whole flight.
Best: Leaving the driving to someone else while I nap.
Worst: Gremlins. Damned wing gremlins.
@rockblossom I feel super old, because I remember seeing that episode on late night TV when I was a kid in the 80s.
@rockblossom @Thumperchick
pats head
you young whippersnapper
@rockblossom @Thumperchick that is the episode I remember best from my youth!
@Thumperchick I didn’t see it when it first aired (Oct 1963), but I saw a rerun in 1964.
@rockblossom @Thumperchick I saw it in 1963. It was scary.
@rockblossom @Thumperchick @werehatrack 1963 ftw
@rockblossom @Thumperchick @werehatrack
IDK - even as a young kid, I thought the wing creature was kind of cheesy…
@macromeh @rockblossom @Thumperchick Oh, it was cheesy, but the jump scare on the initial glimpse, when I was 9, was a thing. (Not huge, but I recall it. I also recall that on the rest of them, I was thinking “wait a minute, how is that thing staying on the outside of the plane? How did it even get there?”)
Right now? The fact that the TSA people are working without being paid and are probably pissed off again and probably some of them called off sick. So allow a little extra time. My worst part about the airport is the waiting
@Cerridwyn
The overpriced food. You know two miles outside the airport, that burger combo is $5 cheaper.
Although airport food has gotten better. Back in the 90s, I was doing a weekly commute from Dallas to Houston. Ah, the days of being a contractor. Back then Love field had four gates handling Dallas to Houston flights every 30 minutes. And a bank of phones that made local calls to Houston in case your flight was delayed. At those four gates there was a tcby and a McDonald’s.
@ironcheftoni that’s one thing I appreciate about PDX. They’re not allowed to gouge. They have high street pricing. It might be what you’d pay downtown instead of in your neighborhood, but it’s no where near other airports. I remember buying a bubbly in pdx but was short on time but had a decent connection in Seattle so I figured I’d get stuff there. I had a 16 or 20 can at PDX that cost 2.29. A 12oz can at the same concession was 4.99 in Seattle. It’s crazy!
@ironcheftoni @sillyheathen
Lone Star steakhouse in Atlanta has essentially the same prices as my unit in Montgomery. I was pleasantly surprised one time when I had a couple of hours to kill (having missed a connection) so SWMBO and I decided to eat dinner and have a beer there. But, OTOH, I learned that you can’t get a steak knife there since they’re inside the TSA cleared area!!
Favorite place for a connection now is Nashville. There are a couple of bars in the concourses that have musicians playing anytime they’re open. Nice to be able to sit and have a beer and listen to someone playing music (live) to while away a couple of hours while you’re waiting.
@chienfou @ironcheftoni charlotte’s airport used to be similar. Musicians, plants and rocking chairs. Now that I’m down for.
@ironcheftoni @sillyheathen
That’s cool. Seems like I’ve been through Charlotte a few times… maybe?.. I’ve been in a couple of other airports that have long connectors between terminals that are populated with rocking chairs so you can sit and look out the windows. Actually seems like a brilliant idea.
@chienfou @ironcheftoni I’ve had a maloof rocker cut out for quite some time. Once the shop is finished, almost there!, that will be the first project I finish. It’s from black walnut. But I have plans to make others with some cool and fun designs by laminating different woods and even potentially different materials. Super excited. I’m a sucker for a rocking chair.
Years back, I was delayed on a flight due to “we’re waiting on a crew member”. Turns out the crew member they were waiting on was the pilot!
Connecting flights worry me the most. Will the first flight arrive on time? Will I have to deal with TSA again if the continuing flight is on a different plane? Will my luggage arrive?
@narfcake
unfortunately having to go through TSA again for a connecting flight is an automatic if you’re flying in from an International flight… Found that out the hard way when I bought a bottle of local liquor at duty free. No problem for the international flight, but then was stuck trying to go through a TSA checkpoint with a fifth of liquor. It was a bit of a PITA.
Can I pick one thing for best and worst?
Air sickness bags.
@phendrick
Thankfully I don’t get air-sick anymore (since I was a kid 60 plus years ago). I think not having any passengers smoking on the plane made the difference!
Best thing is going to go a far off destination,
Worst thing is all the waiting.
Late edit:
Best thing is
going to gogetting to go to a far off destination,Worst thing is all the waiting
THOSE people. You know who they are…“Get outta my way. I should’ve been here 45 minutes earlier. I’m sick, so why not share with everyone else on a sealed sickness tube. The only way to deal with my anxiety is to drink 10 beers & then throw up with the first turbulence. Oh little Johnny, you probably shouldn’t be kicking the seat in front of you continuously for the entirety of the 3 hour flight.” …and I could easily continue.
To me air travel is a necessary evil. I appreciate the ability to get almost anywhere I need to go in an extremely short amount of time (all things relative, of course) but it’s easily my least favorite part of any journey. Fortunately, my times in an airplane have been relatively OK. A few rough flights…both through people & turbulence…but I’m still glad we have the choice because mile per mile, it still rocks in comparison to driving.
@tohar1
Thankfully in 70 plus years of air travel I’ve had very few flights that were too disrupted by people or turbulance. I’ve also had some very memorable long-distance flights when flying international.
Since my superpower seems to be the ability to sleep basically anywhere, under any circumstances, that may have a lot to do with it
@chienfou Whew! I’ve had some doozies! I envy your ability to sleep on an airplane though. Not in my wheelhouse unfortunately.
@tohar1
My wife is the same way. I always feel so bad when I’m sacked out & drooling…well, after I wake up of course!
@chienfou
That is funny! Reminded me of one early-AM flight when I had an Asian girl, probably 20-ish, sitting next to me. She was reading a magazine in her native language, so I guessed she didn’t speak English. About 5-minutes after takeoff, she lays her head on my shoulder & was out cold. She didn’t move at all until we were on final approach. Never said a word to me when she woke up. Didn’t bother me. I found pretty good humor in it, just another story to tell. Guessing it was common in her culture the nonchalant way she did it.
@tohar1
I must say, it’s nice to have purpose!
@chienfou I’m sure Mrs. H. wouldn’t have found it as “cute or innocent” as I did… Don’t go telling her now!
@tohar1

Deal
@tohar1 or on Southwest before they started making people board in number order, mad rush to the gate to avoid a middle seat.
I have a flight on southwest next month. They first one for me where seats are assigned. Should be interesting.
Two best airports I have ever flown from or two. Neither one of them is huge. The first is Palm Springs. It’s always a little more expensive to fly out of there than ontario, but the airport is not inside. I mean there are terminals but all the walkways between the terminals and everything are outside it’s just strangely amazing. And I’m not one of these people who sits out in the sun but the first time I went there it was like getting on the plane was a much lighter experience. The second one was Madison Wisconsin. It is the state capital you got to remember that. Milwaukee is not. About the only thing Madison has going for it is that epic the healthcare computer charting system is really close but it’s not in madison. The airport is Tiny like four Gates. It’s actually only place where the regular people got through quicker than the TSA PreCheck people because well there are two lines and more people working the non PreCheck line
@Cerridwyn
Airport in Kona Hawaii is like that… all outside. And Montgomery’s airport is a regional airport with just a handful of gates. If there are three people in front of you at TSA… it’s considered a massive traffic jam! It’s super easy to breeze in and out of, and the flights connecting on Delta through Atlanta are sometimes cheaper from Montgomery even though you get on the exact same connecting flight as if you had driven to Atlanta to take off. Parking lot is also intimately small so no more than 2-3 minutes from the front of the terminal to your car when you get home. Rates are pretty good too.
@Cerridwyn The boarding gates at Palm Springs were a later addition, hence being detached.
Up until a few years ago, Long Beach was the same – boarding gates were detached from the terminal itself. They are still ground level, though, so boarding is on ramps or stairs. No jet bridges, kind of like Ontario was before 1998.
@narfcake yeah I liked the old Ontario airport. I remember when my daughter was like 11. She got to go to space camp. Delta was the official Airline for space camp. And Delta had its own terminal. This was of course well before 9/11 and after though they had started not letting people into the gates. Except Delta did. Her flight back she flew into LA and then a puddle jumper to ontario. They actually let me out on the tarmac to escort her off the plane. That’s the way kids should be allowed to fly
@Cerridwyn @narfcake
even today you can get a ‘waiver’ from TSA to escort a minor (under 16 I think) to/from the gates.
Did this last year at San Francisco, have done it in Atlanta and Denver as well. Will be doing it in ATL and MIA in a couple of weeks for granddaughter and friend for a cruise.
I think in this day and time it is a good choice since the airlines would have all kinds of liability issues if a late flight got cancelled and they had to lodge a minor overnight.
BTW you can also get a slip for an elderly/handicapped person as well.
@Cerridwyn Many years before Covid (BC) I have been through the Pittsburg, PA airport, back then it was Kool, It had an literal Shopping mall with Mall prices NOT airport ones.
Best Thing: Flying my plane to places I want to go on my schedule, without any TSA or other hassles.
Worst Thing: Maintaining my plane and the crazy costs and hassles that can go with that. As I say to friends with more terrestrial pursuits: if you want to make owning a boat feel cheap, buy a plane…
@shahnm
Fun! What are you flying?
@chienfou Cirrus SR20
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@shahnm
Very nice. A friend of my sisters (who’s a commercial pilot) was flying his private plane back with his daughter from college not long ago and ended up having to drop it on a highway. Thankfully no one was injured!
I’ve had the good fortune to fly in a private plane a handful of times.
@chienfou @shahnm Where’s our flying cars? I was told there would be flying cars.
@chienfou @therealjrn
Add this to the long(ish) list of flying cars that will never actually see the light of day for consumer purchase…
@chienfou @therealjrn
This, on the other hand… I gotta get me one of these…!
@chienfou @shahnm @therealjrn
As to flying cars. You put up with idiots in ground traffic every day. You want to deal with them in the air?
@chienfou @shahnm @therealjrn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrafugia
@chienfou @shahnm @therealjrn
https://nypost.com/2025/12/15/lifestyle/worlds-first-flying-car-available-to-customers-by-early-2026/
@chienfou @mycya4me @therealjrn I’ll believe it when I see it. I’ve been following these “flying cars” for decades, and none have ever actually made it to market. Reality and cost considerations, safety issues, roadworthiness compatibility with airworthiness in the real world… Everything always gets in the way.
With that said, the small manned drones that are cropping up will probably make the flying car boondoggle moot.
@chienfou @mycya4me @therealjrn Another issue has been that the weight required to make aa traditional airplane-type “flying car” (i.e. with wings and thrust requirement) meet roadworthiness regulations is prohibitory for leaving the ground for any meaningful duration, speed, or altitude
The newfangled “flying cars” are basically drones in a car-shaped mesh shell. Even still, for the frame to have the structural strength to protect occupants in road accidents, the damn thing will weigh too much to actually fly meaningfully. Or else it will be light enough to fly ok, but a death trap in a fender bender with a BMX bike…
@chienfou @shahnm @therealjrn Well the Terrafugia Has several Working prototypes, taken them to Fly-In & Autoshows they got a waiver from the FAA for the Weight & the DMVs for certs. Pretty much along the way to production model, But the Cash Flow started to run out. they have been bought by a Chinese venture company… Very little has been heard from them. They look more like a Car with Wings & a Pusher prop!
There has been a few good ones But most of the time it is the Cash Flow! Yes I would like to get one myself, But by the time they get a good one out I do believe I will be a bit too Old. Sad!
@chienfou @mycya4me @therealjrn
This is why we can’t have nice things…
@chienfou @shahnm @therealjrn Yep! they will give it back to us Cheaply made,
A few years ago my new wife and I were flying together for the first time and about the time the captain told us to put our seats in the upright and locked position and put the trays up for the final descent I shared with her one of those little trivia facts I read somewhere-that 90% or so of plane crashes happen within about 3 minutes of taking off or landing, since those are when the engines and wings are under the most stress. If looks could kill the person sitting in the seat ahead of me would have murdered me right there. Of course I learned that I should keep that fact to myself now and never say it loudly whenever I’m on a plane.
Best thing about air travel: Not having to drive through places like Kansas.
Worst things about air travel: Arriving sore and exhausted because of the seat design, aircraft toilets, baggage restrictions, lost checked baggage, carry-on restrictions, endless “new rules”, airport traffic and passenger congestion, inconsistency of airport signage, being ripped off on a rent car (though that’s often worse off-airport), flight delays and cancellations, flying is fecking expensive, and at least a dozen more things that are not coming to mind to piss me off right now, but will make themselves apparent if I try to take a flight.
Frankly, domestic US air travel all by itself is infuriating enough to make me want to drive or just not go.
@werehatrack

/giphy Get off my lawn
@chienfou That, too.
The worst? …
I did a lot of air travel this last summer. I’d sit and read a book while waiting for my plane, but I’m easily distracted- I can’t block out conversations around me, even though I try with my book.
I was amused by how much flirting and “hitting-on” goes on in airports- seemed to be a lot of people meeting and getting to know each other in obviously flirty fashion all around me.
I’m a boring, long married- middle aged man, but gave me an internal smile to see all the fluttering hearts around me.
@OnionSoup
Wonder if THIS has anything to do with it?
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“There’s an app for that…”
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@chienfou @OnionSoup
To me, the worst thing about flying is having to get to the airport so early… just in case. Just in case the line at check-in and bag drop-off is long. Just in case the security checkpoint line is long. Just in case TSA singles you out for some reason. That’s why I like train travel so much more than air travel. You can show up 20 minutes before the train departure time and there are no lines. Of course, train travel (on Amtrak) has other advantages over flying, like wider seats and more legroom, and better food (especially on the western Amtrak routes), but prices are higher on routes where competition between airlines drive their prices down.
Ok - we went to Las Vegas!

Travel-wise, the worst part is hurry-up and wait. You have to hurry up and get through TSA. (I have Pre-Check, my partner doesn’t, so that was fun.)
But then you have to just, hang out for 90 min - 2 hours until you can board to get to where you’re going.
I know - flying in a metal tube with 175 other people who do weird shit it also a strange experience, but I really do find the entire airport experience to be the worst part.
The best part is the view from the sky.
/8ball Did @Thumperchick win big?
Very doubtful
@therealjrn @Thumperchick oh! I fly to Vegas on Friday! I bought the Englishman tickets to the rugby exhibition that’s happening this weekend for his birthday. Let me know if you have any tips or if you did anything fun! He’s not allowed to gamble and if we had a few more days I might consider it but it’s such a chore for me. I only do tables or sports book but I usually do pretty well. I think I made $4500 last time I went.
I’m just stoked that we get to see the rhinos play and don’t have to fly to Leeds to do so. This was from the previous summer when we were back in Yorkshire. So excited! Can’t wait!
@sillyheathen @therealjrn @Thumperchick
Have fun. Should be some great matches!
And yes… I’m a table game player as well. Slots hold NO appeal to me. Being able to interact with the dealer and the other players at a blackjack table is more than half the entertainment for me…
@sillyheathen @therealjrn the Shark Reef Aquarium at Mandalay Bay was pretty great for a daytime activity.
But the kid’s favorite daytime thing was Meow Wolf’s Omega Mart in Area 15. It’s a trip, but a fun one.
I hope you have a blast!
@chienfou @therealjrn @Thumperchick yes! I love the blackjack tables! Maybe I’ll play a little. It’s been ages. But I’m definitely going to the shark reef aquarium. We’re staying at Mandalay because it’s walking distance to the stadium.
I love paludariums and aquariums.
i have claustrophobia, but only on planes and elevators.
that’s the worst thing.
going somewhere better, that’s the best thing.