@JT954
My aunt has a separate thermostat for her and she she keeps it at 50 degrees. I don’t how she does it, while I’m only 38 and get night sweats and hot flashes that’s way to cold for me.
@tinamarie1974
I wouldn’t have figured you for a CPAP kind of gal, not with the whips anyways. But hey, NO judgement here, I mean one DOES have to breathe and all! Lol
I do the super cool thing too, in the winter I don’t even turn on my heat in the bedroom! Down comforters are the best!! …and YOU have Charlie! Jus sayen…
@Lynnerizer@tinamarie1974
Where do you live that you don’t turn on he heat? If I remember correctly it’s like Alabama or something right? How cold does your winter get?
@Lynnerizer I’ve had it for about five years and it has made such a difference. I honestly think I needed it my whole life. I remember always being tired as a teenager and my doctor told me it was because I was involved in too much/put too much pressure on myself. I also snored like nobody’s business. My poor sister would go to bed about a half hour before me every night because she said if she didn’t fall asleep first the snoring would jeep her up
And I cannot wait until Sir Charles can be trusted to sleep in the bed unsupervised. He is not quite there yet so he sleeps in the crate just next to me on the floor.
@Lynnerizer@tinamarie1974 I quit letting my cats into the bedroom years ago. We had one cat who started “thinking outside the box” so we shut both of them out and then found that sleeping went much better without little fuzzy critters taking up prime bedspace or clamoring for food at the crack of dawn.
@tinamarie1974 i’m in boston and do the same. especially after the landlord told me i’m not allowed to turn off the radiator by our bed (which OF COURSE is the only one in the apartment that cranks out any heat worth a damn, exactly where i don’t want any at all). according to him all the radiators are linked so they all have to be open all the way to work properly. sigh.
@Kyeh@Lynnerizer@tinamarie1974 I could kick the current two out in winter or least work on that… They sleep around me. And They have heated beds/other places they could go. My kitty used to come to bed with me and paw at the covers until I let him in. There was no way I was kicking him out
@Kyeh@Lynnerizer@tinamarie1974
He just sat there on the pillow for like a week but I had to deal with him at some point so he’s back there between two big black walnut trees which I never plan to cut down and I thought might be enough spaccing to dodge major roots but I still hit one and had to adjust…
Top left 1quad where the rock is. I just figured it would help keep anything from digging him up and the dirt settl3 and it was there
@Lynnerizer@tinamarie1974@unksol
Oh, that’s a beautiful spot. Two of my cats are buried right at the edge of my patio, with a big flat rock over them, and I planted some tulips and daffodils there. You obviously have some gorgeous acreage.
@Kyeh@Lynnerizer@tinamarie1974@unksol
Over the years (33 at this address…) I have had to bury far too many pets. When the kids were younger I finally told them then couldn’t have any pets bigger than I could bury with a post-hole digger… When I inherited my MILs dog (who was old when I got him) It was a real PITA to dig a hole for a big chocolate lab. We typically put a tree over the spots to remember them by-- his was a dogwood, of course!
@chienfou@Kyeh@Lynnerizer@tinamarie1974 black Walnut trees ooze juglone and they are everywhere. He was never allowed outside for 13 years and he did not like it the few times he got out by accident. So I thought about maybe planting something there but idk. They will kill it and why bother. Not like he liked plants
Realistically I was not planning a pet cemetery I just had to dispose of a dead animal. Who happened to be my best friend. Don’t need to get into why that is. but still it is just a cat. Right?
@chienfou@Kyeh@Lynnerizer@tinamarie1974 lol I have catnip seeds I never got to but they were intended for a different purpose.
Idk that feral cats playing on his grave or me trying to catch them would be beneficial…
@chienfou@Kyeh@Lynnerizer@tinamarie1974 there was one just laying out in the sun up on some stuff. She ran. I try not to disturb them/leave them alone if they are ok and don’t want attention.
If feral cats were a problem tnr seems to be the best
@Kidsandliz I mean more he wasn’t a person and I recognize that the bond was unique to me and him so. You know not something I want to keep bringing up. And regardless he was going to die eventually. Can’t avoid that with dogs/cats just never planned to have one
I’m going to miss him. Scrolling through pics wrecked me the other day but. In the grand scheme of life. Still a cat. He doesn’t need to matter to anyone but me.
Stopping the brain working on a pesky problem can be an impossible task. On these nights, writing down the thoughts is the only hope of getting some sleep.
I used to be able to run a quick checklist of what I did and didn’t do and queue that for the next day. Past year or so, my mind instead just liked to serve up a horror salad right before sleep. I’ve turned to using 5 minutes of cute puppies and kitties on youtube to distract the danger melon long enough to doze off.
Most important thing is not having narcolepsy. I mean, I assume it’s the most important thing, but I’ve had it since I was 7 so I have no idea what good sleep is.
@davidearle
I’m being tested for that now. It’s no fun taking a 5-10 minute nap while eating, OR waking up and NEVER “feeling” like you’ve been a-sleep! I’d give anything to feel groggy again and just crave another 5 minutes of shut-eye!
Very dark, very quiet, cool temperatures, and I still usually have to play word games in my head to turn off the “real” thoughts that keep me awake. What works for me is to take a phrase with enough different letters and start thinking of all the smaller words I can pull from it. This quiets the monkey mind.
I need white noise to cover up the sound of car doors, lawn mowers, etc. I really like sleeping next to the ocean some place secluded, best night of sleep I ever get!
I need to have a dark room, light really bothers me when I’m trying to sleep. That’s probably why I can’t nap during the day. Turning off my brain hasn’t been a problem in a while as I take a muscle relaxer at night that makes me sleepy. Sound really isn’t a problem either (unless the tv is blaring) we live on a busy road and have train tracks in our back yard. Only time the train bothers me is when I’m watching tv or trying to get in or out of the street otherwise I bearly notice it. I have to have it cool while I sleep to bc I night sweats and hot flashes.
Not having your wife awake when you jump into bed so she can ask you a zillion questions or complain about what you did wrong that day. (My wife does not do this BTW).
“IF not your wife, then just WHO’S wife were you speaking of”? Lol…
In YOUR bed (snicker). Just you wait. She will finally get herself an account and read everything you ever wrote on here. Then you will be in trouble. (grin)
@Kidsandliz@Lynnerizer She already knows I have a group of equally demented individuals here to whom I spill our deepest darkest secrets, but after 50 years of marriage she has come to expect that from me.
I rarely have trouble falling asleep. Usually I’m a two minute from my head hitting the pillow to sleeping. I have trouble sleeping when I’m sick or in pain.
The best sleep I ever remember getting was when I was a child at both of my grandparents houses. Where it was completely dark and completely silent and you just went to sleep. And you know you’re a kid. You have nothing to think about.
Now it’s not really any of those plus I worked night shift plus a day shift for a while. Then that plus a 9-5. Then we always on call… I need to work hard to get it back to normal at some point
Darkness, cool air, either quiet or fan noise, the right amount of caffeine, no headache, and having the sleep urge and the circadian rhythm closely enough aligned. And minimal light from screens after, whatever, 11:00 PM maybe.
i can sleep in certain less than ideal situations, but in general:
gotta be at home. i don’t do too well away from home. gotta be dark.
gotta have tv on, star trek or house please.
gotta turn the tv off before it starts to get light out.
gotta be cold, with fresh air on my face. need my comforter and weighted blanket and i run hot so…yeah. chilly.
gotta be on my left side.
gotta have peppermint oil in my lil diffuser.
@unksol yeah, i’ve found that having a sort of elaborate but simple bedtime routine is really helpful for me in the mental health department.
as for star trek, TNG is my most favorite in general and for nighttime viewing. (just gotta watch out for the episodes that have a lot of troi screeching and wailing. not good for sleeping.) we’re watching voyager right now. (ds9 would be the runner up in general, but with all the flashing and flickering lights and quite a lot of ferengi it’s not great to sleep to. especially if it’s a grand nagus episode lol!)
@unksol totally agree about TNG. and yeah, i really liked ds9 - it was cool to watch something that was more…had more of an overarching plot vs. an episodic vibe. the first time i watched it i really found winn adami insufferable and disliked those episodes towards the end, but watching it several times over since, it takes up less space in the series than i initially remembered and doesn’t bother me so much. i like voyager too, i think all the characters individually have their flaws but there was a lot of development too. i really like the doctor especially.
i’ve enjoyed the both of the new series immensely as well. i’m really not so much for TOS (except spock is amazing) - too corny and all the random dramatic music disrupts it even more. and william shatner…not my fave. it’s like, i can appreciate it for what it was but it’s not for me. not big on enterprise either, but it has grown on me. another trek where the captain did a disservice to everyone else, as far as my enjoyment of it goes.
@jerk_nugget I kind of like enterprise but it’s lower on the list. I watched TOS through once or twice but it makes you cringe so much. Voyager and ds9 having a plot annoyed some people want maybe some were not the best plots but it helped with character development. Arcs etc
I can sleep wherever. I usually meditate before sleep, or at least use calming techniques. Sometimes I sleep with a sleep mask if others are still up. I used to use earplugs because my husband saws logs at night (unless he’s using his CPAP). I have kids who talk in their sleep or wake up and crawl into bed with me or (TW: Gross)wake me up with an offering a bucket of puke. Still, my fitbit tells me I have a pretty good sleep score.
Total darkness, total silence, and a comfy bed.
The right amount of EtOH…
I know, I know. They say it’s a bad idea.
“They” don’t live in my world.
A good fan and the correct amount of audio. Audio can be from a movie or music/audiobook.
The colder it is, the better I sleep. Anything in the 50’s and 60’s for me.
Living in Florida, this happens for one week per year.
“Living in Florida, this happens for one week per year.”
Living is Texas was the same, until this past year when old man winter decided to take his millennial trip south.
@JT954
My aunt has a separate thermostat for her and she she keeps it at 50 degrees. I don’t how she does it, while I’m only 38 and get night sweats and hot flashes that’s way to cold for me.
Thats a hilarious question to be asking this crowd.
No mehathons then i can sleep just fine! I didn’t sleep for two days last week lol because of the day zero then the actual meh birthday mehathon!
Cpap machine, comfy bed, powerful fan and a super cold room. I keep my room at 63 with the ceiling fan on high
@tinamarie1974
Jus sayen…
I wouldn’t have figured you for a CPAP kind of gal, not with the whips anyways. But hey, NO judgement here, I mean one DOES have to breathe and all! Lol
I do the super cool thing too, in the winter I don’t even turn on my heat in the bedroom! Down comforters are the best!! …and YOU have Charlie!
@Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974
Where do you live that you don’t turn on he heat? If I remember correctly it’s like Alabama or something right? How cold does your winter get?
@Lynnerizer I’ve had it for about five years and it has made such a difference. I honestly think I needed it my whole life. I remember always being tired as a teenager and my doctor told me it was because I was involved in too much/put too much pressure on myself. I also snored like nobody’s business. My poor sister would go to bed about a half hour before me every night because she said if she didn’t fall asleep first the snoring would jeep her up
And I cannot wait until Sir Charles can be trusted to sleep in the bed unsupervised. He is not quite there yet so he sleeps in the crate just next to me on the floor.
@Lynnerizer @Star2236 I am in MO and I keep my window cracked in the winter to let that cold air in.
@Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974 I quit letting my cats into the bedroom years ago. We had one cat who started “thinking outside the box” so we shut both of them out and then found that sleeping went much better without little fuzzy critters taking up prime bedspace or clamoring for food at the crack of dawn.
@tinamarie1974 i’m in boston and do the same. especially after the landlord told me i’m not allowed to turn off the radiator by our bed (which OF COURSE is the only one in the apartment that cranks out any heat worth a damn, exactly where i don’t want any at all). according to him all the radiators are linked so they all have to be open all the way to work properly. sigh.
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974 I could kick the current two out in winter or least work on that… They sleep around me. And They have heated beds/other places they could go. My kitty used to come to bed with me and paw at the covers until I let him in. There was no way I was kicking him out
@Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974 @unksol
Did you find a good spot to bury him?
RIP, Kitkat, aka Laser-eyes.
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974
He just sat there on the pillow for like a week but I had to deal with him at some point so he’s back there between two big black walnut trees which I never plan to cut down and I thought might be enough spaccing to dodge major roots but I still hit one and had to adjust…
Top left 1quad where the rock is. I just figured it would help keep anything from digging him up and the dirt settl3 and it was there
@Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974 @unksol
Oh, that’s a beautiful spot. Two of my cats are buried right at the edge of my patio, with a big flat rock over them, and I planted some tulips and daffodils there. You obviously have some gorgeous acreage.
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974 @unksol
Over the years (33 at this address…) I have had to bury far too many pets. When the kids were younger I finally told them then couldn’t have any pets bigger than I could bury with a post-hole digger… When I inherited my MILs dog (who was old when I got him) It was a real PITA to dig a hole for a big chocolate lab. We typically put a tree over the spots to remember them by-- his was a dogwood, of course!
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974 it looks way better than it is land wise but from the house it’s a nice spot.
No one but me is ever going to care and I’ll just need to mow over him so idk.
@chienfou @Kyeh @Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974 black Walnut trees ooze juglone and they are everywhere. He was never allowed outside for 13 years and he did not like it the few times he got out by accident. So I thought about maybe planting something there but idk. They will kill it and why bother. Not like he liked plants
Realistically I was not planning a pet cemetery I just had to dispose of a dead animal. Who happened to be my best friend. Don’t need to get into why that is. but still it is just a cat. Right?
Dogs suck :p jk
@chienfou @Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974 @unksol You could plant catnip…
(huh, that’s a very Disney-like cat.)
@chienfou @Kyeh @Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974 lol I have catnip seeds I never got to but they were intended for a different purpose.
Idk that feral cats playing on his grave or me trying to catch them would be beneficial…
I’ll try to stick to the ones needing a home.
@chienfou @Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974 @unksol Oh no, I guess you wouldn’t want to attract the feral cats.
@chienfou @Kyeh @Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974 there was one just laying out in the sun up on some stuff. She ran. I try not to disturb them/leave them alone if they are ok and don’t want attention.
If feral cats were a problem tnr seems to be the best
@chienfou @Kyeh @Lynnerizer @tinamarie1974 @unksol No your cat was NOT “just a cat”. Mine aren’t and weren’t either.
@Kidsandliz I mean more he wasn’t a person and I recognize that the bond was unique to me and him so. You know not something I want to keep bringing up. And regardless he was going to die eventually. Can’t avoid that with dogs/cats just never planned to have one
I’m going to miss him. Scrolling through pics wrecked me the other day but. In the grand scheme of life. Still a cat. He doesn’t need to matter to anyone but me.
@unksol Makes me sad for you are though.
@Kidsandliz @unksol
Me too. I thought he was beautiful.
For me the most important factor when it comes to getting a good night sleep is finally going to bed.
@heartny
Yeah, that’s a thing! …as the clocks at 2:12am for me right now!
@heartny
3:44am
Stopping the brain working on a pesky problem can be an impossible task. On these nights, writing down the thoughts is the only hope of getting some sleep.
I used to be able to run a quick checklist of what I did and didn’t do and queue that for the next day. Past year or so, my mind instead just liked to serve up a horror salad right before sleep. I’ve turned to using 5 minutes of cute puppies and kitties on youtube to distract the danger melon long enough to doze off.
Most important factor for a good night’s sleep? Easy. No Mehrathon, with it’s illusory promises of pot-of-gold IRKs!
Most important thing is not having narcolepsy. I mean, I assume it’s the most important thing, but I’ve had it since I was 7 so I have no idea what good sleep is.
@davidearle
I’m being tested for that now. It’s no fun taking a 5-10 minute nap while eating, OR waking up and NEVER “feeling” like you’ve been a-sleep! I’d give anything to feel groggy again and just crave another 5 minutes of shut-eye!
Very dark, very quiet, cool temperatures, and I still usually have to play word games in my head to turn off the “real” thoughts that keep me awake. What works for me is to take a phrase with enough different letters and start thinking of all the smaller words I can pull from it. This quiets the monkey mind.
@Kyeh as someone who spends a lot of time playing the NYT’s spelling bee, i can relate!
I need white noise to cover up the sound of car doors, lawn mowers, etc. I really like sleeping next to the ocean some place secluded, best night of sleep I ever get!
I need to have a dark room, light really bothers me when I’m trying to sleep. That’s probably why I can’t nap during the day. Turning off my brain hasn’t been a problem in a while as I take a muscle relaxer at night that makes me sleepy. Sound really isn’t a problem either (unless the tv is blaring) we live on a busy road and have train tracks in our back yard. Only time the train bothers me is when I’m watching tv or trying to get in or out of the street otherwise I bearly notice it. I have to have it cool while I sleep to bc I night sweats and hot flashes.
@Star2236 I sleep much better now that I wear an eye mask.
@katbyter @Star2236 My family sleeps much better now that I wear a mask, too.
How much I drank the night before.
No more monkeys jumping on the bed! Some days though I have to admit I miss it. No little ones coming in anymore.
Not having your wife awake when you jump into bed so she can ask you a zillion questions or complain about what you did wrong that day. (My wife does not do this BTW).
@Felton10 so… Not an issue or? Where did the impetus come from?
@unksol I had to write that last part as my wife was standing behind me when I wrote the post.
@Felton10 @unksol
Ahah! I suspected something like that!
@Felton10 @Kyeh in mean I’m pretty sure she knows. So… He wouldn’t still be talking if she g
Didn’t put up with his crap.
@Felton10
Glad you cleared this up in your reply because I was coming to ask you, “IF not your wife, then just WHO’S wife were you speaking of”? Lol…
@Felton10 @Lynnerizer
In YOUR bed (snicker). Just you wait. She will finally get herself an account and read everything you ever wrote on here. Then you will be in trouble. (grin)
@Kidsandliz @Lynnerizer She already knows I have a group of equally demented individuals here to whom I spill our deepest darkest secrets, but after 50 years of marriage she has come to expect that from me.
@Felton10 @Kidsandliz @Lynnerizer
@unskol @kyeh
@Kidsandliz @Kyeh @Lynnerizer @mike808 My secret is out.
@Felton10 @Kidsandliz @Kyeh @mike808
I rarely have trouble falling asleep. Usually I’m a two minute from my head hitting the pillow to sleeping. I have trouble sleeping when I’m sick or in pain.
The best sleep I ever remember getting was when I was a child at both of my grandparents houses. Where it was completely dark and completely silent and you just went to sleep. And you know you’re a kid. You have nothing to think about.
Now it’s not really any of those plus I worked night shift plus a day shift for a while. Then that plus a 9-5. Then we always on call… I need to work hard to get it back to normal at some point
Darkness, cool air, either quiet or fan noise, the right amount of caffeine, no headache, and having the sleep urge and the circadian rhythm closely enough aligned. And minimal light from screens after, whatever, 11:00 PM maybe.
All of the above. Can’t skip any of them.
Head position. My sleep apnea will annihilate my throat if I don’t sleep on my side or strap down my jaw.
i can sleep in certain less than ideal situations, but in general:
gotta be at home. i don’t do too well away from home. gotta be dark.
gotta have tv on, star trek or house please.
gotta turn the tv off before it starts to get light out.
gotta be cold, with fresh air on my face. need my comforter and weighted blanket and i run hot so…yeah. chilly.
gotta be on my left side.
gotta have peppermint oil in my lil diffuser.
@jerk_nugget that’s a long specific list but I like you tv choices. Any specific star trek?
@unksol yeah, i’ve found that having a sort of elaborate but simple bedtime routine is really helpful for me in the mental health department.
as for star trek, TNG is my most favorite in general and for nighttime viewing. (just gotta watch out for the episodes that have a lot of troi screeching and wailing. not good for sleeping.) we’re watching voyager right now. (ds9 would be the runner up in general, but with all the flashing and flickering lights and quite a lot of ferengi it’s not great to sleep to. especially if it’s a grand nagus episode lol!)
@jerk_nugget everyone likes to hate on ds9 and voyager but for what they were I like them.
Grew up on TNG and season one was… Awful but then it got going. Was better than the TOS . THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS
@unksol totally agree about TNG. and yeah, i really liked ds9 - it was cool to watch something that was more…had more of an overarching plot vs. an episodic vibe. the first time i watched it i really found winn adami insufferable and disliked those episodes towards the end, but watching it several times over since, it takes up less space in the series than i initially remembered and doesn’t bother me so much. i like voyager too, i think all the characters individually have their flaws but there was a lot of development too. i really like the doctor especially.
i’ve enjoyed the both of the new series immensely as well. i’m really not so much for TOS (except spock is amazing) - too corny and all the random dramatic music disrupts it even more. and william shatner…not my fave. it’s like, i can appreciate it for what it was but it’s not for me. not big on enterprise either, but it has grown on me. another trek where the captain did a disservice to everyone else, as far as my enjoyment of it goes.
@jerk_nugget I kind of like enterprise but it’s lower on the list. I watched TOS through once or twice but it makes you cringe so much. Voyager and ds9 having a plot annoyed some people want maybe some were not the best plots but it helped with character development. Arcs etc
I can sleep wherever. I usually meditate before sleep, or at least use calming techniques. Sometimes I sleep with a sleep mask if others are still up. I used to use earplugs because my husband saws logs at night (unless he’s using his CPAP). I have kids who talk in their sleep or wake up and crawl into bed with me or (TW: Gross)wake me up with an offering a bucket of puke. Still, my fitbit tells me I have a pretty good sleep score.
Temps cool enough to get both dogs to go under the covers. It’s very snuggly… until the kicking starts.
And a horror movie on.
That you aren’t driving…
The BUD quality
The most important factor when it comes to getting a good night sleep is finally reaching the end of the Internet.
@heartny your ft key broke? Or…
@heartny was supposed to be F5… I.e. refresh. In that there is always more
Idk why my phone tries to correct F5 to ft it just did it 3 times typing this
I’m loving the spicific time stamping on most of these posts, kind of says a lot about our sleep in general! Or lack of it!