@dave This + the Rockies reminded me of Bloodsports, so I Googled to see how many they ended up making (4?) and if Van Damme was dead yet. TL;DR here's a picture of what got the ladies in the 80s: That + the several grams of cocaine, Donkey Kong arcade cabinet and Iroc Z not pictured.
@f00l Well, if the movie is actually named Heretic, some variation is acceptable, such as Heretic II: The Heretic's Apprentice, or Heretic II: Blood of the Templars, or Heretic II: Curse of the Waldensian
"And the" or a subtitle are the best because they're descriptive enough to remember what happened in a particular sequel. I wouldn't have to think hard to remember which Rocky film Ivan Drago was in if Rocky IV was called "Rocky and the Big Russian Punch Man"
If the sequel is the direct continuation of the story from the previous entry, numbers make sense. If it's more "here is a new story with characters you already know and love" then a subtitle makes more sense.
The Godfather ruined sequel naming. Before "The Godfather II", sequels had new names. Since then, every sequel has to have a number, or something similar.
@sjk3 There were a couple of lesser known exceptions, but before the 70's, studios thought putting a number would hurt the success of a movie (drive away potential audience members who did not see the original). Oh how the mindset changed. Now, not only do studios love sequels, they often insist on the original name being contained in the sequel name in fear of the viewing public being too stupid to realize its a sequel. Instead of just calling the movie "Rambo", they called it "Rambo: First Blood Part II" lest we think it is a different Stallone character named Rambo.
@DrWorm I think they're afraid to do anything that's not a sequel, a spinoff, a prequel, a re-make, or an adaptation from tv or the comics. So sequel-naming customs matter.
I've got to say the sequel to Now You See Me lost a huge opportunity to name it Now You Don't. Instead they went with Now You See Me 2.
To answer the question though I prefer the subtitles or "and the"s because they're a good way of showing the plot that was unique to that movie rather than just a number of numeral.
I like a unique name for the sequel, but the tactic employed by the Petter Sellers' Inspect Clouseau movies was pretty palatable: "The Pink Panther", "Revenge of the Pink Panther", " The Pink Panther Strikes Again", "Trail of the Pink Panther" (and oddly enough, perhaps the best of the bunch: "A Shot in the Dark" )
@DrWormA Shot In the Dark is actually based on a French play which doesn't feature Inspector Clouseau. Peter Sellers was committed to the project and begged Blake Edwards to take over as director while they were shooting The Pink Panther. Edwards initially didn't want to and didn't see how they could fix the script in the short period they had before shooting was supposed to begin on A Shot In the Dark until they decided to change the lead character to Clouseau and choreograph the comic scenes on the fly as they were doing with The Pink Panther. That's why many of the characters we associate with the Pink Panther franchise weren't in the original movie; they were borrowed from the play that was shoehorned into the franchise. And if you'll note, the titular Pink Panther from the original movie was the stolen diamond and it doesn't appear in some of the later movies, and it doesn't really make sense to name the franchise after it (other than being a great name), but that's because it was never intended to be a franchise. If it was they probably would've been named something like Inspector Clouseau and the Pink Panther, Inspector Clouseau and the Shot In the Dark, Inspector Clouseau and the Dissolving Machine.
_ #: _ Harder
If nobody makes sequels, nobody has to name them.
PUN PUN PUN PUN
Boogaloo 2
I prefer similar but different and confusing names, like
First Blood/Rambo:
The Fast and the Furious:
Bullet 1
@Moose I like ones that seem totally normal, and then take a crazy turn:
Rocky
Rocky II
Rocky III
Rocky IV
Rocky V
Rocky Balboa
Creed
Creed 2
@dave This + the Rockies reminded me of Bloodsports, so I Googled to see how many they ended up making (4?) and if Van Damme was dead yet.
TL;DR here's a picture of what got the ladies in the 80s:
That + the several grams of cocaine, Donkey Kong arcade cabinet and Iroc Z not pictured.
No Electric Boogaloo?
Just a number, or "part" and a number, either way they remain in alphanumeric order on the shelf.
Roman Numerals only gets you so far. Like this year's Superbowl was 50, not L. And what do you do after 3999?
@sligett MV - with a bar over the V (see here). But you're getting into serious soap opera territory if you have 4000 sequels.
Add an 's'. (Alien, Aliens)
@KDemo Back to the Futures, Back to the Futures Agains. For parts II and III. (%
@KDemo Harry Potter, Harry Potters, Harry Potterss, Harry Pottersss, Harry Potterssss, Harry Pottersssss, Harry Potterssssss, Harry Pottersssssss
@Moose I didn't know you could speak parseltongue!
@growyoungagain Backs to the Future
@dave Trailer narrator: ...in a future where everything is backwards comes "Backs to the Future"
@dave this comment is so good tho
I lean towards naming every sequel with _ II: The Heretic.
@mossygreen
That is good.
Cinderella II: The Heretic
Plan 9 From Outer Space II: The Heretic
I Am Stooopid II: The Heretic
Anchorman III: The Heretic's Heretic
Highlander, The Endless Sequel II: The Headless Heretic
Yes! I like!
@mossygreen
Let's see
Heretic II: The Anti-Heretic Heretic
@mossygreen
*SPOILERS***
The Godfather II: The Heretic: The Rage Of Fredo
Apocalypse Now II: The Heretic: Didn't The Apocalypse Already Happen Last Time?
@f00l Well, if the movie is actually named Heretic, some variation is acceptable, such as Heretic II: The Heretic's Apprentice, or Heretic II: Blood of the Templars, or Heretic II: Curse of the Waldensian
"And the" or a subtitle are the best because they're descriptive enough to remember what happened in a particular sequel. I wouldn't have to think hard to remember which Rocky film Ivan Drago was in if Rocky IV was called "Rocky and the Big Russian Punch Man"
Jam the number awkwardly into the title whether it works or not: MIB, MIIB, MIIIB
If the sequel is the direct continuation of the story from the previous entry, numbers make sense. If it's more "here is a new story with characters you already know and love" then a subtitle makes more sense.
I am in favor of an original plot and ditch sequels. SON OF works if you must redo a worn idea. Meh!
@doxeelady This. This is the punch to which you beat me. But it shouldn't stop there, as in "Son of Electric Boogaloo 2 - The Prequel!"
The Godfather ruined sequel naming. Before "The Godfather II", sequels had new names. Since then, every sequel has to have a number, or something similar.
@sjk3 There were a couple of lesser known exceptions, but before the 70's, studios thought putting a number would hurt the success of a movie (drive away potential audience members who did not see the original). Oh how the mindset changed. Now, not only do studios love sequels, they often insist on the original name being contained in the sequel name in fear of the viewing public being too stupid to realize its a sequel. Instead of just calling the movie "Rambo", they called it "Rambo: First Blood Part II" lest we think it is a different Stallone character named Rambo.
@DrWorm
I think they're afraid to do anything that's not a sequel, a spinoff, a prequel, a re-make, or an adaptation from tv or the comics. So sequel-naming customs matter.
Or, like Star Wars, both a number and a subtitle.
@olperfesser
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@narfcake a new nope
I've got to say the sequel to Now You See Me lost a huge opportunity to name it Now You Don't. Instead they went with Now You See Me 2.
To answer the question though I prefer the subtitles or "and the"s because they're a good way of showing the plot that was unique to that movie rather than just a number of numeral.
I like a unique name for the sequel, but the tactic employed by the Petter Sellers' Inspect Clouseau movies was pretty palatable: "The Pink Panther", "Revenge of the Pink Panther", " The Pink Panther Strikes Again", "Trail of the Pink Panther" (and oddly enough, perhaps the best of the bunch: "A Shot in the Dark" )
@DrWorm A Shot In the Dark is actually based on a French play which doesn't feature Inspector Clouseau. Peter Sellers was committed to the project and begged Blake Edwards to take over as director while they were shooting The Pink Panther. Edwards initially didn't want to and didn't see how they could fix the script in the short period they had before shooting was supposed to begin on A Shot In the Dark until they decided to change the lead character to Clouseau and choreograph the comic scenes on the fly as they were doing with The Pink Panther. That's why many of the characters we associate with the Pink Panther franchise weren't in the original movie; they were borrowed from the play that was shoehorned into the franchise. And if you'll note, the titular Pink Panther from the original movie was the stolen diamond and it doesn't appear in some of the later movies, and it doesn't really make sense to name the franchise after it (other than being a great name), but that's because it was never intended to be a franchise. If it was they probably would've been named something like Inspector Clouseau and the Pink Panther, Inspector Clouseau and the Shot In the Dark, Inspector Clouseau and the Dissolving Machine.
This is how I name my routers:
1) Network
2) Revenge of Network
3) Son of Network
4) Network The Awakening
Revenge of...
Should they be named
II: Give Us More Money?