@yakkoTDI I guess I didn’t like cream cheese mixed with stuff other than on a sandwich with jelly. Somehow cream cheese didn’t sound appealing as cake when I was a kid.
@heartny@yakkoTDI I always knew cream cheese was great in sweet form, whether as pie (fun fact, cheesecake is technically pie) or on a cake, as cream cheese frosting. Regular frosting was always too sweet for me, but i could eat a whole bowl of the cream cheese version! And, yes, I’ve earned my cholesterol numbers!
@PooltoyWolf Some of my best memories are long car trips. Even after they were divorced, we did family vacations together which were road trips up the west coast on I-5 or 101. I learned to look out and enjoy, even if it was boring at times.
@pmarin@PooltoyWolf
Ditto, I loved our family vacations road trips. I might’ve not liked the idea of that car ride before we left but after it was over I wouldn’t have changed it for anything!
@Kyeh Thanks! At least someone is capable of comprehending a simple pun. I’ll have to try using basic vocabulary words in an effort to explain that i was attempting to back up their comment with a little irreverence. Wish me luck…
So, @user87647985, I was making a play on words, using a literary reference (that means “book title”) synonymous to (that’s “having the same meaning as”) your phrase “Russian asset,” by changing a few letters to more accurately describe the asset in question, with the intention of making a pun. Does “manchild” hit a little too close to home? Maybe you should check out some of the pun-filled topics that are suggested occasionally in the product write-ups, so you can learn to understand puns. Once you figure them out, they can be pretty entertaining. Or, bless your heart, you can just continue being a clueless troll that doesn’t even recognize a reply from a kindred spirit.
@Kyeh I think I was about 12 and went to Europe, mostly Switzerland where my mother was from. Relatives, friends offered coffee which was real, good, coffee. (Not espresso though) But I developed a taste for good strong quality coffee, which we really didn’t have in the U.S. at the time.
@pmarin I only started drinking it for the buzz when I began waitressing at 16; at first I’d make it with a bunch of cream and sugar just to gulp it down. Now I love it but I still add milk.
@pmarin right. I have a vague memory getting sick on something cheesy as a youngster so steered away from anything to do with cheese way back then. Now love it and always have a few types in my fridge!
@tweezak
All the cruciferous vegetables are and always have been too gross to eat in my taste profile.
That said, I will occasionally eat some coleslaw as long as it has a sweetened mayonnaise dressing on it.
Also, I just found out that I do like some of those that are grown as tubers/roots- namely, radishes [especially daikon], and even horseradish [in small amounts], but all the others can all go to the bad place and stay as far as I’m concerned.
This was also the subject of most of the food-related trauma in my childhood, which was spread between my 16-years older 1/2-brother, who had no such taste impediment and delighted in trying to hide them in my other food- e.g., cauliflower in mashed potatoes stands out strongly in my memory; and my 'rents who were insistent that we eat everything they put on our plates- which included some of everything- despite my gagging and being physically unable to swallow them [again cauliflower and broccoli stand out] as a result.
As you may be able to tell, they haunt me to this day…
Taking a totally different direction…
Really bad network TV shows we had on the 3 channels at the time. Now some of them are “classics” plus we have like 50 streaming networks and some of the content is actually quite good.
@pmarin Being a night owl, i really appreciate the fact that TV doesn’t go off the air at 1 o’clock in the morning anymore. I always dreaded the national anthem coming on, leading into the depressing color bars.
for some reason any vegetable starting with a vowel (asparagus, artichokes, onions, etc.). Now I quite like them all, even okra when prepared in a proper gumbo. Still a bit shy with olives.
Fresh fish!
Frozen fish sticks were fine with me but I couldn’t get passed eating a animal that was still in the shape of itself or anything with it’s head still on! So if it came from the seafood market or directly from the ocean I was not eating it. I don’t think I ever fell for it but my mom would actually try to fillet it and tell me it was frozen.
For a while I also had a hard time eating a chicken leg. I had to not focus on the striations of the meat!
I’m really surprised I wasn’t a child vegetarian but as an adult I LOVE fresh fish! The fresher the better!
I’m just realizing I must’ve been a fickle child because I loved lobster and steamers! Hmmm…
@Lynnerizer Sadly, I’m still at the fish stick phase, although i can even handle the frozen battered fillets now. As long as there’s tartar sauce in either case.
@chienfou@Lynnerizer My sister & I definitely took after my finicky father, who would only eat fish & chips-style fried haddock; not cod, not pollock, nothing but haddock. My mother, on the other hand, ate enough seafood for the three of us. She especially loved the peel & eat shrimp at the all-you-can-eat salad bar, even though they made her break out in hives. To say it bordered on an unhealthy addiction is an understatement. Thankfully, it never escalated to the EpiPen level.
@chienfou@ircon96
Gotta say I’ve been known to carry a bottle of Benadryl just in case I chose to do something when I KNEW I’d get hives! The crazy things we do to ourselves… Lol
@chienfou@ircon96@Lynnerizer I thought I hated fish until I got to England, and friends gently forced me to try fish & chips - with malt vinegar no less!
@blaineg@chienfou@ircon96
I love vinegar but I don’t know if I’ve ever tried malt vinegar. When I was a kid other kids and even adults thought I was crazy when I’d ask for vinegar for my french fries! My mom grew up in Massachusetts so that’s where THAT came from.
@chienfou@ircon96@Lynnerizer Malt vinegar is dark brown, a milder flavor, and made from barley. It’s the traditional English fish condiment. I’ve never seen white vinegar used.
Tarter sauce or lemon/lemon juice are also used, but are far less common than malt vinegar.
Sometimes you see salt & vinegar potato chips over here, the flavor is similar.
@blaineg@chienfou@ircon96
Interesting. I’m going to have to try it on fish, I usually use either tartar sauce or lemon (sometimes both, or nothing at all) on my fish.
May I suggest Cetirizine [the generic form of Zyrtec] for future use- it works faster, lasts longer and is less sedating than Benadryl.
Once when I got some yellow jacket stings [my only anaphylactic trigger] and did not have an Epi-pen [lapsed Rx after having previously used the medication a decade prior], taking 4 of them [which I knew was a safe dose [for me- YMMV] from attending asthma and allergy conferences], forestalled the progress of my anaphylaxis, and surprise, I lived.
@chienfou@ircon96@PhysAssist
Personally, I like Benadryl and I use it for several allergies, my cat, mosquito and bee bites, cold urticaria, (allergy to the cold or ice on my skin) and pollen. Thankfully the tablet form doesn’t make me sleepy at all, but the capsule form does. So when I need a little help sleeping I’ll take the capsules.
It wasn’t until a few months ago that my allergist prescribed me a epi pen for the cold urticaria. He’s worried about my tongue or throat swelling especially when I eat or drink something cold or frozen. It’s funny how our allergies change over the years, some get better and some get worse. I’m not crazy about ever having to use the epi pen since he said I have to follow up with a visit to the ER to make sure I don’t have a reaction to the epi pen itself. Is that normal procedure, epi pen and then ER visit?
The only thing that scares me about trying something new, like the Cetirizine is because sometimes those types of meds cause me to have the shakes or jitters and I HATE that feeling. 🫨 It’s bad enough dealing with that from hypoglycemia every once in a while.
@chienfou@ircon96@Lynnerizer
In addition to sedation, I find that Benadryl makes me irritable and aggro, but Cetirizine just makes slightly sleepy.
Of course, you should go with what works for you, I’m just always trying to make things better.
@blaineg@PhysAssist
Pretty sure it was the salt and vinegar potato chips, just like you! I also used to eat a lot of fresh lemons so they could have done it too. I never had a problem with orange juice. I haven’t gotten them in over 40 years though, either my chemistry changed or I just don’t eat an abundance of those foods.
Beer. My parents were of the “remove the forbidden fruit” school of thought. So they were usually OK with giving me a small sip if I was curious. Pretty much worked until my late teens (although I never really enjoyed beer until the dawn of the craft beer era).
@jouest I think I liked myself most when I was a kid; it was in my teens that that changed drastically. Things have improved since, but it was still better when I was little.
@jouest@Kyeh Personally, the more I’ve learned about myself and the world, the more I hated myself. Kind of like that insignificance gun in Hitchhiker’s Galaxy.
All of the above.
Childhood.
@yakkoTDI that is the best answer!
@mycya4me @yakkoTDI
YES, EXCELLENT ANSWER!
@Lynnerizer @mycya4me @yakkoTDI
Where the Time Machine when you need it.
Alcohol
@Mehlachi you know that YOU can Only Rent it! You pour it in the top & it will come out the middle after doing some damage.
Cheesecake
@heartny Interesting. What did you hate about it?
When I was young I thought I hated a lot of vegetables but it turns out I just hated how most were prepared.
@yakkoTDI I guess I didn’t like cream cheese mixed with stuff other than on a sandwich with jelly. Somehow cream cheese didn’t sound appealing as cake when I was a kid.
@heartny @yakkoTDI I always knew cream cheese was great in sweet form, whether as pie (fun fact, cheesecake is technically pie) or on a cake, as cream cheese frosting. Regular frosting was always too sweet for me, but i could eat a whole bowl of the cream cheese version!
And, yes, I’ve earned my cholesterol numbers!
@ircon96 @yakkoTDI I had cheesecake to celebrate Pi Day
Long car rides.
@PooltoyWolf Some of my best memories are long car trips. Even after they were divorced, we did family vacations together which were road trips up the west coast on I-5 or 101. I learned to look out and enjoy, even if it was boring at times.
@pmarin @PooltoyWolf
Ditto, I loved our family vacations road trips. I might’ve not liked the idea of that car ride before we left but after it was over I wouldn’t have changed it for anything!
The news
You may be a dwindling minority, @truquito.
spaghetti
Bleu Cheese
Competent people in government. Preferably who aren’t Russian assets.
@user87647985 Why did you hate them as a child?
@user87647985 AKA, “The Manchildian Candidate”
@ircon96 Were you always dumb or did you turn this way after years spent working on your knees?
@ircon96
@user87647985 - what the FUCK is that about? Shove it, you troglodyte!
At this rate I’ll never hear why any child would hate competent people in government.
@Kyeh Thanks! At least someone is capable of comprehending a simple pun. I’ll have to try using basic vocabulary words in an effort to explain that i was attempting to back up their comment with a little irreverence. Wish me luck…
So, @user87647985, I was making a play on words, using a literary reference (that means “book title”) synonymous to (that’s “having the same meaning as”) your phrase “Russian asset,” by changing a few letters to more accurately describe the asset in question, with the intention of making a pun. Does “manchild” hit a little too close to home? Maybe you should check out some of the pun-filled topics that are suggested occasionally in the product write-ups, so you can learn to understand puns. Once you figure them out, they can be pretty entertaining. Or, bless your heart, you can just continue being a clueless troll that doesn’t even recognize a reply from a kindred spirit.
Olives
Bleu cheese stuffed olives
Thankfully we finally have that after the last election. Now head over to the politics thread where this bullshit belongs…
Do they reply under the correct comments over there in the political thread @shahnm?
@haydesigner
Actually, yes, they do.
Coffee
@Kyeh I think I was about 12 and went to Europe, mostly Switzerland where my mother was from. Relatives, friends offered coffee which was real, good, coffee. (Not espresso though) But I developed a taste for good strong quality coffee, which we really didn’t have in the U.S. at the time.
@pmarin I only started drinking it for the buzz when I began waitressing at 16; at first I’d make it with a bunch of cream and sugar just to gulp it down. Now I love it but I still add milk.
girls
(the renaissance started about 7th grade)
Even as a young boy, I’m afraid I liked them.
@pmarin I’m a Gen X’er…boys still have cooties.
cheese
@fjp999 who doesn’t like cheese?
@pmarin right. I have a vague memory getting sick on something cheesy as a youngster so steered away from anything to do with cheese way back then. Now love it and always have a few types in my fridge!
@fjp999 @pmarin, I had a boss who hates cheese. He would order pizza with no cheese and double pepperoni.
Brussels sprouts
Also green olives
@tweezak
All the cruciferous vegetables are and always have been too gross to eat in my taste profile.
That said, I will occasionally eat some coleslaw as long as it has a sweetened mayonnaise dressing on it.
Also, I just found out that I do like some of those that are grown as tubers/roots- namely, radishes [especially daikon], and even horseradish [in small amounts], but all the others can all go to the bad place and stay as far as I’m concerned.
This was also the subject of most of the food-related trauma in my childhood, which was spread between my 16-years older 1/2-brother, who had no such taste impediment and delighted in trying to hide them in my other food- e.g., cauliflower in mashed potatoes stands out strongly in my memory; and my 'rents who were insistent that we eat everything they put on our plates- which included some of everything- despite my gagging and being physically unable to swallow them [again cauliflower and broccoli stand out] as a result.
As you may be able to tell, they haunt me to this day…
@PhysAssist @tweezak Cauliflower hidden in mashed potatoes? Now that is truly sadistic.
@phendrick @tweezak
Finally, some validation!
Thank you kindly.
Taking a totally different direction…
Really bad network TV shows we had on the 3 channels at the time. Now some of them are “classics” plus we have like 50 streaming networks and some of the content is actually quite good.
@pmarin Being a night owl, i really appreciate the fact that TV doesn’t go off the air at 1 o’clock in the morning anymore. I always dreaded the national anthem coming on, leading into the depressing color bars.
for some reason any vegetable starting with a vowel (asparagus, artichokes, onions, etc.). Now I quite like them all, even okra when prepared in a proper gumbo. Still a bit shy with olives.
@stolicat How odd!
Enough free time to get bored.
@xobzoo YES, this!
I remember asking my mother “I’m bored, what can I do?” And she said “mildew!”
Fresh fish!
Frozen fish sticks were fine with me but I couldn’t get passed eating a animal that was still in the shape of itself or anything with it’s head still on! So if it came from the seafood market or directly from the ocean I was not eating it. I don’t think I ever fell for it but my mom would actually try to fillet it and tell me it was frozen.
For a while I also had a hard time eating a chicken leg. I had to not focus on the striations of the meat!
I’m really surprised I wasn’t a child vegetarian but as an adult I LOVE fresh fish! The fresher the better!
I’m just realizing I must’ve been a fickle child because I loved lobster and steamers! Hmmm…
@Lynnerizer
Maybe you just had expensive taste!
@Lynnerizer Sadly, I’m still at the fish stick phase, although i can even handle the frozen battered fillets now. As long as there’s tartar sauce in either case.
@chienfou
That’s funny! And, it’s also EXACTLY what my guy would say!
@chienfou @Lynnerizer My sister & I definitely took after my finicky father, who would only eat fish & chips-style fried haddock; not cod, not pollock, nothing but haddock. My mother, on the other hand, ate enough seafood for the three of us.
She especially loved the peel & eat shrimp at the all-you-can-eat salad bar, even though they made her break out in hives. To say it bordered on an unhealthy addiction is an understatement. Thankfully, it never escalated to the EpiPen level. 
@chienfou @ircon96
Gotta say I’ve been known to carry a bottle of Benadryl just in case I chose to do something when I KNEW I’d get hives! The crazy things we do to ourselves… Lol
@chienfou @ircon96 @Lynnerizer I thought I hated fish until I got to England, and friends gently forced me to try fish & chips - with malt vinegar no less!
Turns out I just hated bad/badly prepared fish.
@blaineg @chienfou @ircon96
I love vinegar but I don’t know if I’ve ever tried malt vinegar. When I was a kid other kids and even adults thought I was crazy when I’d ask for vinegar for my french fries! My mom grew up in Massachusetts so that’s where THAT came from.
@chienfou @ircon96 @Lynnerizer Malt vinegar is dark brown, a milder flavor, and made from barley. It’s the traditional English fish condiment. I’ve never seen white vinegar used.
Tarter sauce or lemon/lemon juice are also used, but are far less common than malt vinegar.
Sometimes you see salt & vinegar potato chips over here, the flavor is similar.
@blaineg @chienfou @ircon96
Interesting. I’m going to have to try it on fish, I usually use either tartar sauce or lemon (sometimes both, or nothing at all) on my fish.
@chienfou @ircon96 @Lynnerizer
May I suggest Cetirizine [the generic form of Zyrtec] for future use- it works faster, lasts longer and is less sedating than Benadryl.
Once when I got some yellow jacket stings [my only anaphylactic trigger] and did not have an Epi-pen [lapsed Rx after having previously used the medication a decade prior], taking 4 of them [which I knew was a safe dose [for me- YMMV] from attending asthma and allergy conferences], forestalled the progress of my anaphylaxis, and surprise, I lived.
@blaineg @Lynnerizer
I find that Malt [or even white vinegar in a pinch is sooo much better than either of those.
I do also like vinegar on fries [Brit- chips], as well as the Salt-n-Vinegar flavored chips.
@chienfou @ircon96 @PhysAssist
Is that normal procedure, epi pen and then ER visit?
Personally, I like Benadryl and I use it for several allergies, my cat, mosquito and bee bites, cold urticaria, (allergy to the cold or ice on my skin) and pollen. Thankfully the tablet form doesn’t make me sleepy at all, but the capsule form does. So when I need a little help sleeping I’ll take the capsules.
It wasn’t until a few months ago that my allergist prescribed me a epi pen for the cold urticaria. He’s worried about my tongue or throat swelling especially when I eat or drink something cold or frozen. It’s funny how our allergies change over the years, some get better and some get worse. I’m not crazy about ever having to use the epi pen since he said I have to follow up with a visit to the ER to make sure I don’t have a reaction to the epi pen itself.
The only thing that scares me about trying something new, like the Cetirizine is because sometimes those types of meds cause me to have the shakes or jitters and I HATE that feeling. 🫨 It’s bad enough dealing with that from hypoglycemia every once in a while.
@blaineg @PhysAssist
I used to love the Salt-n-Vinegar flavored chips but I can’t have them anymore, way too salty!
@blaineg @Lynnerizer
I have to take care not to eat too many or I get oral ulcers- like canker sores.
@chienfou @ircon96 @Lynnerizer
In addition to sedation, I find that Benadryl makes me irritable and aggro, but Cetirizine just makes slightly sleepy.
Of course, you should go with what works for you, I’m just always trying to make things better.
@blaineg @PhysAssist
Yeah I remember getting those from, they hurt!
@blaineg @Lynnerizer
What you get them from?
If I’m not being impertinent by asking .
@blaineg @PhysAssist
Pretty sure it was the salt and vinegar potato chips, just like you! I also used to eat a lot of fresh lemons so they could have done it too. I never had a problem with orange juice. I haven’t gotten them in over 40 years though, either my chemistry changed or I just don’t eat an abundance of those foods.
Naps
@chienfou I still hate them, but they keep attacking me, and I’m defenseless.
Why would I want to wake up twice in one day?
@blaineg
So you can pee then go to bed!
@blaineg @chienfou That is a much better sequence.
Showers
I could play in the bath, but the shower = rain. Now, that hot rain in the morning just feels so refreshing.
Ice cream with specks in it. How gross!
Yes, it was chocolate chip ice cream. In later years Mom enjoyed reminding me of this.
Beer. My parents were of the “remove the forbidden fruit” school of thought. So they were usually OK with giving me a small sip if I was curious. Pretty much worked until my late teens (although I never really enjoyed beer until the dawn of the craft beer era).
@macromeh
Same- in particular malty Barley Wines and Scotch Ales.
I mean, I still hate sleep and the fact that I have to do it every day. But I absolutely enjoy it much more in my older age than I was a wee lad
It’s a tie between bath, sleep and vegetable. Hated them all. Now I can sleep a day, take a bath and eat tons of vegetables and be happy.
Being stuck at home unable to hangout with my friends (being grounded). Now that’s my favorite thing.
creamed spinach
Myself.
Also peas.
@jouest I think I liked myself most when I was a kid; it was in my teens that that changed drastically.
Things have improved since, but it was still better when I was little.
@jouest Whirled peas, or just local?
@jouest @phendrick
@jouest @Kyeh Personally, the more I’ve learned about myself and the world, the more I hated myself. Kind of like that insignificance gun in Hitchhiker’s Galaxy.
@jouest @pakopako