Snobby about furniture. Hate going into million dollar homes or 5 star hotels to find wobbly ikea type chairs, fake leather, or partial board end tables. Where did appreciation for fine woodwork, dovetail joints and real brass upholstery tacks go?
@brainmist@openwater Most of our furniture is antiques. LR is what my grandparents bought in 1929 and we had restored. Everything particle board (at times that was all we could afford) has been dumpstered many times over.
@brainmist@openwater@ybmuG Particle board is used as a core because it’s considered a 3-dimensionally stable material. There’s much less concern of it deforming due to time and environmental changes whereas natural wood can warp or even split over time.
More importantly, being a product manufactured from scrap wood, it’s very cost effective. Also, there’s no concern about the quality from one tree to another.
@brainmist@openwater@ybmuG I have a bunch of inherited, well built quality antique furniture. I have been offered, and declined, a bunch of other well built, quality antique furniture that was ugly or uncomfortable or both. Good quality, modern furniture is so expensive, it makes particle board furniture seem like a reasonable option until you have to replace it 3 years…
@brainmist@openwater@vfrdirk@ybmuG I have not inherited much furniture. Where it makes sense we’ve been buying generally well-built used or antique wood furniture.
But for upholstered furniture, I think a reasonable argument can be made for the cheap Ikea-type furniture.
I have young kids. They make a lot of messes. The cover on my Ikea sofa is completely removable. We washed the first one loads of times, and finally replaced it a couple of years ago. And I love that I can break the sofa down to pieces small enough that I can move them all by myself. In the last decade or so I have moved that sofa between four different residences, and it sets back up just fine every time. I can’t move a normal sofa without help.
I would be much more stressed about my son eating butter explosion popcorn on the sofa if it were something nice and expensive.
@Limewater That’s a good point. My dogs have, over the years, weaseled their way onto furniture (mostly second hand) and I’ve gone in for some of those washable, watery resistant bed covers under a sheet to contain the stinky. Because I’m fancy!
@openwater My wife’s step-dad is long retired and one of his hobbies is restoring wood furniture. He picks up “distressed” but reasonably solid older pieces from thrift stores or from folks who just want to get rid of an old piece, takes them home and rebuilds and refinishes them. Then he usually gives them to friends or family. Our house is full of his projects, to the point that we have no place left to take more. I’m typing this while sitting at the dining room table he gave us. Kind of a simple, clean ~100-plus-year-old table, solid oak and beautifully refinished.
@brainmist all my furniture is from ikea so most of it is particle board. the reasons are:
i like modern looking furniture (esp because we have a LOT of collectibles so i prefer the furniture to disappear in terms of aesthetics, and i also hate trying to keep something with lots of frills free of dust & grime)
1b. modern looking furniture in wood is prohibitively expensive, for me
the apartment we live in is an attic of an old boston three family with very narrow staircases. without the flat packed furniture from ikea nothing would have fit up here unless i hired a crane and removed the kitchen window and stove. not gonna happen. even as it was, we had to unbox the couch boxes on the lawn and bring pieces up one at a time.
i’ve been shopping with ikea for a long time and, while their website and customer service are some of the worst, the products are overall excellent for the style and pricepoint. (but you will get what you pay for if you buy the cheapest options for sure!) the only reason i’ve replaced ikea furniture over the years is because i’ve moved and i didn’t want to try to disassemble things and/or pay to rent a moving truck/hire movers. (and the last time, because of a fire & subsequent water & fireman axe damage.)
but, one big caveat is that we don’t have kids or pets so our stuff doesn’t see much wear and tear.
@connorbush I came to say the same thing. But I’m snobby in different ways.
With coffee, I’ll drive miles out of my way for good coffee over mediocre coffee. But if it’s late at night and the only thing that’s open is a truck stop with day-old coffee, I’ll cover it in so much creamer it’s barely even coffee anymore (and i consider creamer a heresy with good coffee) and drink it anyway.
With beer, I like trying locals as much as possible and generally know what types i like. But if all that’s available is something that gets sold by the case, I’ll just not drink anything.
TL;DR Bad coffee is better than no coffee, but life’s too short for had beer.
@connorbush@smyle One of the gas station/truck stops I stopped at somewhere had cinnamon and other things to sprinkle on your coffee. That makes less than stellar coffee palatable, especially for those of us who like coffee black.
Language and punctuation, although I do like some slang. I get bothered by words becoming too overused, or word pronunciation fads, like the glottal stop that a lot of younger people suddenly started using - it’s “important”, not “impor-uhnt”, unless you’re a Cockney!!
@AuntMean67 I used to be snobby about grammer and spelling until I read a tweet 10 years ago that said that being snobby about grammer and spelling is classist. That tweet changed my life. Being snobby about grammer and spelling is classist. Realizing this, I stopped. You can too.
@00 100%. i used to care about spelling and grammar but don’t anymore for the same reason. it’s often racist, ableist, and at times antisemitic as well. plus, language evolves. literally every generation creates new words, slang, and ways of speaking that stick in the craw of somebody older. which is why we don’t speak the same way as people from 1620, or even 1920. personally i love learning about new words and their origins, hearing about local lexicons, etc.
There is something to be said about an author’s attention to such details like grammar and spelling.
If an author doesn’t care about the reader and demonstrates their lack of mastery in their chosen means of communication, why would the reader be expected to care about whatever vapid drivel the author excretes upon the medium?
If you see something, say something. Don’t condone or excuse laziness or incontinence of the written word through your silence, and therefore acceptance.
@00@jerk_nugget That’s different from grammar and spelling.
Those are givens. They don’t change. You can colloquialize grammar, but that doesn’t make it correct. It just shows laziness and/or being un/under educated.
@Tadlem43 what’s different? the thread and OP both discuss a strong dislike for slang and certain pronunciation(s), which are directly tied to spelling and grammar and which my comment was in direct response to. slang enters into the dictionary all the time. even putting dictionaries aside, every generation has unique ways of speaking in both tone and vocabulary content. i’m sure various ancestors would be appalled at our crass interpretations of the queen’s english or whatever. but who cares? “proper” ways of speaking is always going to be a social construct, and as such a moving target with its own inherent failures that some of us are seeking to outgrow.
to put it bluntly, “correctness” as it concerns language in the US is rooted in white supremacy. suggesting someone is lazy and uneducated because it wouldn’t earn an A+ in a high school english class is exactly the stereotype born of such things and it’s a pointless and often baseless conclusion. if you don’t like it that’s certainly your prerogative, but judging someone on the way they speak or write ain’t my bag.
@mike808 what author? you’ll have to be more specific. plenty of authors write “properly” according to the arbitrary rules of the english language and it remains vapid drivel. i’d rather watch paint dry than read hemingway for instance. for how many paragraphs does he need to explain each blade of grass to simply convey a pleasant spring day, or does he not care enough about his reader(s) to get it over with already? but, obviously many people have and continue to enjoy his writing. so, live and let live. nobody’s talking about firing all the editors of the new yorker or your local paper, or at least i’m not. i’m simply speaking on how better to get on with our fellow humans, and to stop needlessly gatekeeping something so foolish and fluid as language.
if i can understand someone, i truly don’t care if there’s a typo or a run-on sentence or they’ve mixed up their homophones. if i legitimately can’t understand someone and it’s imperative that i do, i ask a clarifying question. otherwise, i keep it moving.
@00 I’m curious to know if you are snobbish about really strong foreign accents? Are you one of those people who say “they shouldn’t be here if they can’t speak English?” Their English isn’t good and at times is nonexistent, But at least they try.
@00@AuntMean67 I think I was the one talking about pronunciation, and I specifically meant fashionable affectations, not accents or dialects. My mother is Japanese, so I’m certainly not going to be intolerant about a foreign accent. What I mean is the kind of thing you suddenly hear all over just because some celebrity talks a certain way or who knows what. And the one I mentioned is something that my upper-middle-class Caucasian coworkers suddenly started doing, which is to replace consonants with a kind of “uh” sound - so " moun-uhn" instead of " mountain, and “ki-uhn” instead of kitten. But if that’s how someone grew up speaking that’s different - like Cockney Brits!
Sorry, that’s really long, but I just wanted to be clear, I hope I was.
@00@AuntMean67 I had a friend who had his MA and worked as a PR person for the Air Force, and he could not pronounce “nuclear” - he always said “noo-cue-lar”. Grr!
It bothers me way more when TV news people or official types speak poorly. And I actually think the whole “insisting on proper English is classist” argument is patronizing.
@baqui63 Seconded! I’m a home-roasted, fresh-ground, espresso making coffee guy at home. But that fresh pot of automatic drip at someone’s house that I didn’t have to fuss over tastes pretty good, too!
I do not know if is really snobbish, it’s just I can be very particular about food and have problems sharing with someone who does not appreciate the good stuff. Not that it has to be expensive or fancy. I have had amazing two dollar breakfast sandwiches.
Take pizza for example. There are millions of different variations and places to buy but Domino’s always sucks. How the fuck is that shit the best selling pie in America?
Water. I am a water snob. I will drink tap if there is no other options. Ill have to be dying of thirst to drink from a hose. Otherwise triple filter me please. At the very least, a cold Brita will not make me happy, but it’ll do.
@goldnectar So, you do like minerals in your water? My family tested me with several different bottled waters and I could identify them all correctly. I assume it is the mineral content that I am picking up. I love Fiji but hate Evian. I like Dasani but not Aquafina. Fine with Brita filtered Philly water but despise the tap water at the shore.
Literally scrolled through looking for just this statement. My brother works for culligan, so I’m fortunate enough to have a reverse osmosis. After over a decade of drinking filtered, delicious h2o, tap water literally hurts my throat. Gross.
@goldnectar I have well water and it’s so good. I’d rather die of dehydration than to drink city water.
I used to work for a closure packaging company who had to frequently “taste/smell” test bottled water in which they replaced with their water closures for the originals to test for lingering residue from the base resins and environmental factors like smoke and other airborne particles. They included me every time and I hated it because I could taste/smell the metals/minerals in the various bottled waters and it grossed me out.
@goldnectar@punkynpye How’s that reverse osmosis affect the flavor? I might need one of those for safe drinking water, and it’d be a shame if it did what I expect it to do and sucked out all the minerally smoothness.
Growing up with delicious well water is why I got the reverse osmosis in the first place. The very first time I tasted chlorinated city water, I literally spit it out. I thought it was a prank! Who can drink that swill? I drink over a gallon of water a day, so I’m particular about the flavor.
Reverse osmosis tastes like delicious well water, IMHO.
@goldnectar@punkynpye We had a softener and RO filter at the old house and took it with us when we moved, but the water is so good straight out of the ground at the new place I never bothered to install the filter, even though I plumbed for it during construction.
@edguyver14 what’s worse is that I feel the need to explain to people that why I don’t drink soda or buy fancy tonic. “HFCS makes me feel jittery because it spikes my metabolism.” The lady at my kids’ bus stop doesn’t need to know that. But she knows because I told her.
@spacemart@tweezak Quality cans is misleading to. In my experience the correlation between a quality and price can be a little loose. There are some really nice headphones that are surprisingly affordable.
@DoctorOW@spacemart True. Audio Technica makes some good stuff. Also Grados $100 SR-80 I think is amazing for the price. My problem was that I was looking for sealed headphones which are much harder to make with great sound reproduction and therefore end up usually costing quite a bit. I listened to several and ended up with some Denons.
@DoctorOW@tweezak i’m actually fine with apple earpods because it’s mainly podcasts for that. but music i just want some decent speakers. my favorite stereo at home is an old marrantz with even older speakers. electro voice that are 60 years old sound better than much newer klipsh!
@DoctorOW@spacemart I love old stereo equipment. A friend of mine had some old Klipsch Cornwalls that were awesome! Another roomate built a pair of speakers designed from an expired Klipsh horn patent. Those could fill a huge space with sound. If you’ve never checked out audiogon.com you should. Lots of cool stuff there.
@smyle wow… that’s REALLY specific…
mine’s much More pedestrian…
Tim Hortons. I get one(XL DD) on my lunch break, and buy their grounds for my home brewing. (aka, 5 am before I leave for work)
now for the home brew, I get Whole milk from a small local dairy. grass fed, just barely pasteurized, and non-homogenized.
gotta shake it up before pouring, the cream does separate.
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@earlyre I’m not sure it counts as snobby if you simply dislike bad coffee… I’ll happily drink anything that’s minimum-good, but like, McDonalds/parents/the shop/gas station, or how Starbucks used to be, doesn’t even pass the lowest bar.
Usually if I can order an Americano I can be pretty sure it’ll be fancy enough that somebody will have bothered to some minimal degree and I’ll like it. Pour over is good too though.
At home I roast my own coffee, probably do a very mediocre job, but it’s close enough.
I can’t help being a bike snob. I’ve been a bike geek my entire life. I love my carbon road bike and would love to get some carbon wheels for it but I just can’t justify the $$. Especially since I’m not riding a lot right now.
I’m snobby about almost everything, but I try hard not to be. Just because I like something a certain kind of way doesn’t make me better than someone who doesn’t care.
Honestly, caring about the temperature of the water that you use to brew coffee is fucking annoying. Having thousands of LPs is a burden–physically and emotionally. Knowing how to get a great seer on home made seitan, using your well-seasoned cast iron skillet is stupid (but delightful)!
Maybe being not snobby about being snobby is the new snobby?
What? I should be talking to a therapist instead of posting this on a daily deal site comment board? Oh. Whoops. Sorry about that.
@00 Actually, I was thinking that I am fussy about certain things but I don’t care if other people are - is that still snobbery? Like I want my cold drinks to be ICY, and my hot food to be really hot, stuff like that - but I don’t look down on someone less particular. In fact I can envy them for not being so finicky. So I can relate…
@Kyeh My question, too. I’m finicky about a lot of things that I use myself, but tastes differ, and I really don’t care that other people want different things. I want nothing in my coffee but (preferably freshly) ground organic beans and filtered water, but if a visitor wants other stuff in coffee, I’m fine with that. Or I’m fine with them adding anything I have on hand. If they expect me to make a run to the store to pick up some ingredient that they are finicky about, they will be out of luck.
@rockblossom Yeah, I choose to believe that it’s snobbery if you look down on the other person’s choices or usage, whatever. So I guess I am snobbish about language but not about food. And only about language in context, because I expect the newspaper to be properly written and punctuated, but not necessarily a chat forum.
honestly…i can’t think of anything. in terms of what other people are doing, definitely nothing. (i.e. i don’t feel judgey about what other people enjoy.)
but on a personal level? i feel like there must be something but i’m drawing a blank. there are obviously things i prefer to other things but…it’s not snobbery based i don’t think? like i prefer certain brands, for instance, but it wouldn’t faze me to go somewhere that didn’t have them, and i don’t feel any urge to casually “recommend” them to others etc.
i am particular but…i will totally eat any grilled cheese with a smile. well, any that someone cooked for me out of the kindness of their heart, anyway. now if i paid for a subpar grilled cheese…well, i’d probably still say nothing about it but inside i would be unhappy and i wouldn’t get a second one
I don’t really think I’m snobby about anything. I know there’s stuff I like a certain way and other people have their same things too. I don’t look down at at people or judge them for not doing things my way. I could honestly care less, their way is not interfering with how I do my shit so wtf does it matter.
And I guess it’s “noising”. But I wanted to make the distinction between a really neat regional way of speaking vs. just sloppy bad grammar or affectation etc. And I am probably addressing this to the wrong person, since it was others who took issue with my particular snob attitudes - but I also just thought this story about Robert Johnson was so cool.
So many things, but I don’t impose (or even share, unless it comes up) my beliefs with others.
So feel free to use your tea bags or infusers, drink your ice cold Bud Light, use your Meh knife,or listen to your sound bar around me, and I won’t say a word.
Just don’t say shit about people with better tastes than you. Don’t claim your $30 Forschner knife is just as good as expensive ones you’ve never touched and don’t say “I am not an audiophile” to defend your crappy sound bar.
And absolutely don’t correct my pronunciation of place names you’ve never been to. Or graphics formats.
Ketchup on hot dogs. Since moving to illannoy so close to chicago, there seems to be a snobbery about hot dogs and their condiments being shoved down your throat almost anywhere you go. Can’t have ketchup on a hot dog. Over and over. They won’t put it on if you ask, they don’t keep ketchup at the tables. Act like they’re better than you if you want ketchup.
So I get ketchup on every hot dog (did that before moving here). Even bought mcdonalds dogs and burger king dogs when they had them because by default they came with ketchup. Suck on that, chicago dog snobs, you and your fluorescent green relish.
I’ve always identified as a “cat snob”! YUP, that’s what I said, CAT SNOB! I grew up not liking cats because living in the country we had to keep feral cats out from underneath our house. Actually, I believe the “real truth” is that my mom didn’t like cats and she passed it on to us kids!! At 25 years old while in the movie theater watching Homeward Bound, I fell in love and knew before the movie was even over that I just HAD TO HAVE a Himalayan cat just like Sassy. Been a “cat snob” ever since!! My first girl Eve lived 18 years, my guy Tuc just turned 2! Both of them, spoiled rotten!