Snobby about furniture. Hate going into million dollar homes or 5 star hotels to find wobbly ikea type chairs, fake leather, or partial board end tables. Where did appreciation for fine woodwork, dovetail joints and real brass upholstery tacks go?
@brainmist@openwater Most of our furniture is antiques. LR is what my grandparents bought in 1929 and we had restored. Everything particle board (at times that was all we could afford) has been dumpstered many times over.
@openwater@ybmuG It saddens me that we’ve seen such a swing from well built to cheaply built. And mostly because a lot of people could have inherited well built…but didn’t want to.
@brainmist@openwater@ybmuG Particle board is used as a core because it’s considered a 3-dimensionally stable material. There’s much less concern of it deforming due to time and environmental changes whereas natural wood can warp or even split over time.
More importantly, being a product manufactured from scrap wood, it’s very cost effective. Also, there’s no concern about the quality from one tree to another.
@brainmist@openwater@ybmuG I have a bunch of inherited, well built quality antique furniture. I have been offered, and declined, a bunch of other well built, quality antique furniture that was ugly or uncomfortable or both. Good quality, modern furniture is so expensive, it makes particle board furniture seem like a reasonable option until you have to replace it 3 years…
@brainmist@openwater@vfrdirk@ybmuG I have not inherited much furniture. Where it makes sense we’ve been buying generally well-built used or antique wood furniture.
But for upholstered furniture, I think a reasonable argument can be made for the cheap Ikea-type furniture.
I have young kids. They make a lot of messes. The cover on my Ikea sofa is completely removable. We washed the first one loads of times, and finally replaced it a couple of years ago. And I love that I can break the sofa down to pieces small enough that I can move them all by myself. In the last decade or so I have moved that sofa between four different residences, and it sets back up just fine every time. I can’t move a normal sofa without help.
I would be much more stressed about my son eating butter explosion popcorn on the sofa if it were something nice and expensive.
@Limewater That’s a good point. My dogs have, over the years, weaseled their way onto furniture (mostly second hand) and I’ve gone in for some of those washable, watery resistant bed covers under a sheet to contain the stinky. Because I’m fancy!
@openwater My wife’s step-dad is long retired and one of his hobbies is restoring wood furniture. He picks up “distressed” but reasonably solid older pieces from thrift stores or from folks who just want to get rid of an old piece, takes them home and rebuilds and refinishes them. Then he usually gives them to friends or family. Our house is full of his projects, to the point that we have no place left to take more. I’m typing this while sitting at the dining room table he gave us. Kind of a simple, clean ~100-plus-year-old table, solid oak and beautifully refinished.
@brainmist all my furniture is from ikea so most of it is particle board. the reasons are:
i like modern looking furniture (esp because we have a LOT of collectibles so i prefer the furniture to disappear in terms of aesthetics, and i also hate trying to keep something with lots of frills free of dust & grime)
1b. modern looking furniture in wood is prohibitively expensive, for me
the apartment we live in is an attic of an old boston three family with very narrow staircases. without the flat packed furniture from ikea nothing would have fit up here unless i hired a crane and removed the kitchen window and stove. not gonna happen. even as it was, we had to unbox the couch boxes on the lawn and bring pieces up one at a time.
i’ve been shopping with ikea for a long time and, while their website and customer service are some of the worst, the products are overall excellent for the style and pricepoint. (but you will get what you pay for if you buy the cheapest options for sure!) the only reason i’ve replaced ikea furniture over the years is because i’ve moved and i didn’t want to try to disassemble things and/or pay to rent a moving truck/hire movers. (and the last time, because of a fire & subsequent water & fireman axe damage.)
but, one big caveat is that we don’t have kids or pets so our stuff doesn’t see much wear and tear.
@jerk_nugget All valid reasons. If you do get to the point of looking at antique/vintage, some of the mid century stuff is very simple and streamlined. But not something to haul upstairs!
@connorbush I came to say the same thing. But I’m snobby in different ways.
With coffee, I’ll drive miles out of my way for good coffee over mediocre coffee. But if it’s late at night and the only thing that’s open is a truck stop with day-old coffee, I’ll cover it in so much creamer it’s barely even coffee anymore (and i consider creamer a heresy with good coffee) and drink it anyway.
With beer, I like trying locals as much as possible and generally know what types i like. But if all that’s available is something that gets sold by the case, I’ll just not drink anything.
TL;DR Bad coffee is better than no coffee, but life’s too short for had beer.
@connorbush@smyle One of the gas station/truck stops I stopped at somewhere had cinnamon and other things to sprinkle on your coffee. That makes less than stellar coffee palatable, especially for those of us who like coffee black.
@AuntMean67@katbyter@brainmist@ybmuG
Language and punctuation, although I do like some slang. I get bothered by words becoming too overused, or word pronunciation fads, like the glottal stop that a lot of younger people suddenly started using - it’s “important”, not “impor-uhnt”, unless you’re a Cockney!!
@AuntMean67 I used to be snobby about grammer and spelling until I read a tweet 10 years ago that said that being snobby about grammer and spelling is classist. That tweet changed my life. Being snobby about grammer and spelling is classist. Realizing this, I stopped. You can too.
@00@AuntMean67 Being snobby IS classist, but I think everyone is snobby (or should I say snobbish) about something.
Even if it’s how much more socially conscious they are than other people.
@00@AuntMean67 A friend had a borderline literate boss. In the shop they had a can of All Porpoise Grease, and a can of Zinc Primate Paint, among other spelling innovations.
@00 100%. i used to care about spelling and grammar but don’t anymore for the same reason. it’s often racist, ableist, and at times antisemitic as well. plus, language evolves. literally every generation creates new words, slang, and ways of speaking that stick in the craw of somebody older. which is why we don’t speak the same way as people from 1620, or even 1920. personally i love learning about new words and their origins, hearing about local lexicons, etc.
@00@jerk_nugget
There is something to be said about an author’s attention to such details like grammar and spelling.
If an author doesn’t care about the reader and demonstrates their lack of mastery in their chosen means of communication, why would the reader be expected to care about whatever vapid drivel the author excretes upon the medium?
If you see something, say something. Don’t condone or excuse laziness or incontinence of the written word through your silence, and therefore acceptance.
@00@jerk_nugget That’s different from grammar and spelling.
Those are givens. They don’t change. You can colloquialize grammar, but that doesn’t make it correct. It just shows laziness and/or being un/under educated.
@Tadlem43 what’s different? the thread and OP both discuss a strong dislike for slang and certain pronunciation(s), which are directly tied to spelling and grammar and which my comment was in direct response to. slang enters into the dictionary all the time. even putting dictionaries aside, every generation has unique ways of speaking in both tone and vocabulary content. i’m sure various ancestors would be appalled at our crass interpretations of the queen’s english or whatever. but who cares? “proper” ways of speaking is always going to be a social construct, and as such a moving target with its own inherent failures that some of us are seeking to outgrow.
to put it bluntly, “correctness” as it concerns language in the US is rooted in white supremacy. suggesting someone is lazy and uneducated because it wouldn’t earn an A+ in a high school english class is exactly the stereotype born of such things and it’s a pointless and often baseless conclusion. if you don’t like it that’s certainly your prerogative, but judging someone on the way they speak or write ain’t my bag.
@mike808 what author? you’ll have to be more specific. plenty of authors write “properly” according to the arbitrary rules of the english language and it remains vapid drivel. i’d rather watch paint dry than read hemingway for instance. for how many paragraphs does he need to explain each blade of grass to simply convey a pleasant spring day, or does he not care enough about his reader(s) to get it over with already? but, obviously many people have and continue to enjoy his writing. so, live and let live. nobody’s talking about firing all the editors of the new yorker or your local paper, or at least i’m not. i’m simply speaking on how better to get on with our fellow humans, and to stop needlessly gatekeeping something so foolish and fluid as language.
if i can understand someone, i truly don’t care if there’s a typo or a run-on sentence or they’ve mixed up their homophones. if i legitimately can’t understand someone and it’s imperative that i do, i ask a clarifying question. otherwise, i keep it moving.
@00 I’m curious to know if you are snobbish about really strong foreign accents? Are you one of those people who say “they shouldn’t be here if they can’t speak English?” Their English isn’t good and at times is nonexistent, But at least they try.
@00@AuntMean67 I think I was the one talking about pronunciation, and I specifically meant fashionable affectations, not accents or dialects. My mother is Japanese, so I’m certainly not going to be intolerant about a foreign accent. What I mean is the kind of thing you suddenly hear all over just because some celebrity talks a certain way or who knows what. And the one I mentioned is something that my upper-middle-class Caucasian coworkers suddenly started doing, which is to replace consonants with a kind of “uh” sound - so " moun-uhn" instead of " mountain, and “ki-uhn” instead of kitten. But if that’s how someone grew up speaking that’s different - like Cockney Brits!
Sorry, that’s really long, but I just wanted to be clear, I hope I was.
@00@Kyeh Yes. Sorry. I get really snobby when I hear things like “can I axe you a question” or “what I gonna say” and horrible grammar like that. THAT is my snobbishness.
@00@AuntMean67 I had a friend who had his MA and worked as a PR person for the Air Force, and he could not pronounce “nuclear” - he always said “noo-cue-lar”. Grr!
It bothers me way more when TV news people or official types speak poorly. And I actually think the whole “insisting on proper English is classist” argument is patronizing.
I picked coffee, about which I am rather particular when making it myself.
Having said that, when there is coffee already around, as long as it is not overly dehydrated (aka cooked or burned) I will likely drink it and not completely hate it.
@baqui63 Seconded! I’m a home-roasted, fresh-ground, espresso making coffee guy at home. But that fresh pot of automatic drip at someone’s house that I didn’t have to fuss over tastes pretty good, too!
I do not know if is really snobbish, it’s just I can be very particular about food and have problems sharing with someone who does not appreciate the good stuff. Not that it has to be expensive or fancy. I have had amazing two dollar breakfast sandwiches.
Take pizza for example. There are millions of different variations and places to buy but Domino’s always sucks. How the fuck is that shit the best selling pie in America?
@blaineg@ybmuG I did like that bacon wrapped deep dish bacon pizza they had at one point…because bacon. One slice and I was done. I think they bring it back from time to time.
Water. I am a water snob. I will drink tap if there is no other options. Ill have to be dying of thirst to drink from a hose. Otherwise triple filter me please. At the very least, a cold Brita will not make me happy, but it’ll do.
@goldnectar So, you do like minerals in your water? My family tested me with several different bottled waters and I could identify them all correctly. I assume it is the mineral content that I am picking up. I love Fiji but hate Evian. I like Dasani but not Aquafina. Fine with Brita filtered Philly water but despise the tap water at the shore.
@goldnectar
Literally scrolled through looking for just this statement. My brother works for culligan, so I’m fortunate enough to have a reverse osmosis. After over a decade of drinking filtered, delicious h2o, tap water literally hurts my throat. Gross.
@goldnectar I’ve been drinking well water at home for the last 30 years. I can barely choke down the chlorinated sludge that comes from the city pipes.
@goldnectar I have well water and it’s so good. I’d rather die of dehydration than to drink city water.
I used to work for a closure packaging company who had to frequently “taste/smell” test bottled water in which they replaced with their water closures for the originals to test for lingering residue from the base resins and environmental factors like smoke and other airborne particles. They included me every time and I hated it because I could taste/smell the metals/minerals in the various bottled waters and it grossed me out.
@goldnectar@punkynpye How’s that reverse osmosis affect the flavor? I might need one of those for safe drinking water, and it’d be a shame if it did what I expect it to do and sucked out all the minerally smoothness.
@goldnectar@macromeh
Growing up with delicious well water is why I got the reverse osmosis in the first place. The very first time I tasted chlorinated city water, I literally spit it out. I thought it was a prank! Who can drink that swill? I drink over a gallon of water a day, so I’m particular about the flavor.
Reverse osmosis tastes like delicious well water, IMHO.
@goldnectar@punkynpye We had a softener and RO filter at the old house and took it with us when we moved, but the water is so good straight out of the ground at the new place I never bothered to install the filter, even though I plumbed for it during construction.
@edguyver14 what’s worse is that I feel the need to explain to people that why I don’t drink soda or buy fancy tonic. “HFCS makes me feel jittery because it spikes my metabolism.” The lady at my kids’ bus stop doesn’t need to know that. But she knows because I told her.
@spacemart Yep. Quality cans are amazing when driven with a good amp. I also have some Martin Logans at home that I really enjoy. Well worth the investment.
@spacemart@tweezak Quality cans is misleading to. In my experience the correlation between a quality and price can be a little loose. There are some really nice headphones that are surprisingly affordable.
@DoctorOW@spacemart True. Audio Technica makes some good stuff. Also Grados $100 SR-80 I think is amazing for the price. My problem was that I was looking for sealed headphones which are much harder to make with great sound reproduction and therefore end up usually costing quite a bit. I listened to several and ended up with some Denons.
@DoctorOW@tweezak i’m actually fine with apple earpods because it’s mainly podcasts for that. but music i just want some decent speakers. my favorite stereo at home is an old marrantz with even older speakers. electro voice that are 60 years old sound better than much newer klipsh!
I spent some bucks in really nice cans (Senns) a while back.
Only to discover that I love them, but don’t use them. Which made me feel a little idiotic. The cans are on loan to a desk-working, music driven person at the moment.
Most of my listening is on the go, and us audiobooks and podcasts. For those, LG Tones are perfect.
@DoctorOW@spacemart I love old stereo equipment. A friend of mine had some old Klipsch Cornwalls that were awesome! Another roomate built a pair of speakers designed from an expired Klipsh horn patent. Those could fill a huge space with sound. If you’ve never checked out audiogon.com you should. Lots of cool stuff there.
I selected coffee… but… is it snobbery if there’s just the one kind that tastes RIGHT to you?
not burnt, not like you’re licking an ashtray, or accidentally drinking from a soda can someone’s been using for an ash tray…
if not wanting to taste those things makes me snobby, well…just call me Thurston. and if someone could bring Lovey and I a sandwich, we’re just famished.
@smyle wow… that’s REALLY specific…
mine’s much More pedestrian…
Tim Hortons. I get one(XL DD) on my lunch break, and buy their grounds for my home brewing. (aka, 5 am before I leave for work)
now for the home brew, I get Whole milk from a small local dairy. grass fed, just barely pasteurized, and non-homogenized.
gotta shake it up before pouring, the cream does separate.
if anyone in the NW OH region is interested… http://knuevenfarms.com
they offer farm pickup, free delivery* within Putnam and it’s Surrounding Counties, and they are also regularly at the Toledo Farmers Market
*free delivery for orders $15 and over, $5 Delivery charge for orders under $15
@earlyre I’m not sure it counts as snobby if you simply dislike bad coffee… I’ll happily drink anything that’s minimum-good, but like, McDonalds/parents/the shop/gas station, or how Starbucks used to be, doesn’t even pass the lowest bar.
Usually if I can order an Americano I can be pretty sure it’ll be fancy enough that somebody will have bothered to some minimal degree and I’ll like it. Pour over is good too though.
At home I roast my own coffee, probably do a very mediocre job, but it’s close enough.
I can’t help being a bike snob. I’ve been a bike geek my entire life. I love my carbon road bike and would love to get some carbon wheels for it but I just can’t justify the $$. Especially since I’m not riding a lot right now.
@ebatch I’ve eaten JMs once or twice and the problem was the bread. It was too soft and had little character. I might try again if I have to (and I’m in New Jersey!).
The fact that people lurking in a deep discount remainders website are all proud of being “snobs” really says something. I don’t know what, but definitely something.
Scotch. Must be 12 yo or older, single malt. Beer, I am just particular, liking the local microbrewery. Coffee just has to be hot and fresh. Books, not movies.
I’m snobby about almost everything, but I try hard not to be. Just because I like something a certain kind of way doesn’t make me better than someone who doesn’t care.
Honestly, caring about the temperature of the water that you use to brew coffee is fucking annoying. Having thousands of LPs is a burden–physically and emotionally. Knowing how to get a great seer on home made seitan, using your well-seasoned cast iron skillet is stupid (but delightful)!
Maybe being not snobby about being snobby is the new snobby?
What? I should be talking to a therapist instead of posting this on a daily deal site comment board? Oh. Whoops. Sorry about that.
@00 Actually, I was thinking that I am fussy about certain things but I don’t care if other people are - is that still snobbery? Like I want my cold drinks to be ICY, and my hot food to be really hot, stuff like that - but I don’t look down on someone less particular. In fact I can envy them for not being so finicky. So I can relate…
@Kyeh My question, too. I’m finicky about a lot of things that I use myself, but tastes differ, and I really don’t care that other people want different things. I want nothing in my coffee but (preferably freshly) ground organic beans and filtered water, but if a visitor wants other stuff in coffee, I’m fine with that. Or I’m fine with them adding anything I have on hand. If they expect me to make a run to the store to pick up some ingredient that they are finicky about, they will be out of luck.
@rockblossom Yeah, I choose to believe that it’s snobbery if you look down on the other person’s choices or usage, whatever. So I guess I am snobbish about language but not about food. And only about language in context, because I expect the newspaper to be properly written and punctuated, but not necessarily a chat forum.
honestly…i can’t think of anything. in terms of what other people are doing, definitely nothing. (i.e. i don’t feel judgey about what other people enjoy.)
but on a personal level? i feel like there must be something but i’m drawing a blank. there are obviously things i prefer to other things but…it’s not snobbery based i don’t think? like i prefer certain brands, for instance, but it wouldn’t faze me to go somewhere that didn’t have them, and i don’t feel any urge to casually “recommend” them to others etc.
i am particular but…i will totally eat any grilled cheese with a smile. well, any that someone cooked for me out of the kindness of their heart, anyway. now if i paid for a subpar grilled cheese…well, i’d probably still say nothing about it but inside i would be unhappy and i wouldn’t get a second one
I don’t really think I’m snobby about anything. I know there’s stuff I like a certain way and other people have their same things too. I don’t look down at at people or judge them for not doing things my way. I could honestly care less, their way is not interfering with how I do my shit so wtf does it matter.
@f00l So watching this Robert Johnson piece led me to browsing around online about it and I found this article: https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/devil-and-robert-johnson.htm
And I found this great piece of dialog with some wonderful language - “noisin” - which I love; and I just had to put it in here because we’ve been talking about language and so on.
And I guess it’s “noising”. But I wanted to make the distinction between a really neat regional way of speaking vs. just sloppy bad grammar or affectation etc. And I am probably addressing this to the wrong person, since it was others who took issue with my particular snob attitudes - but I also just thought this story about Robert Johnson was so cool.
So many things, but I don’t impose (or even share, unless it comes up) my beliefs with others.
So feel free to use your tea bags or infusers, drink your ice cold Bud Light, use your Meh knife,or listen to your sound bar around me, and I won’t say a word.
Just don’t say shit about people with better tastes than you. Don’t claim your $30 Forschner knife is just as good as expensive ones you’ve never touched and don’t say “I am not an audiophile” to defend your crappy sound bar.
And absolutely don’t correct my pronunciation of place names you’ve never been to. Or graphics formats.
Ketchup on hot dogs. Since moving to illannoy so close to chicago, there seems to be a snobbery about hot dogs and their condiments being shoved down your throat almost anywhere you go. Can’t have ketchup on a hot dog. Over and over. They won’t put it on if you ask, they don’t keep ketchup at the tables. Act like they’re better than you if you want ketchup.
So I get ketchup on every hot dog (did that before moving here). Even bought mcdonalds dogs and burger king dogs when they had them because by default they came with ketchup. Suck on that, chicago dog snobs, you and your fluorescent green relish.
@duodec
Wonder what they’d have to say about putting not ONLY ketchup, BUT, putting ketchup, mustard, relish AND onions on MY darn hotdog? Besides YUM yum YUM!
I’ve always identified as a “cat snob”! YUP, that’s what I said, CAT SNOB! I grew up not liking cats because living in the country we had to keep feral cats out from underneath our house. Actually, I believe the “real truth” is that my mom didn’t like cats and she passed it on to us kids!! At 25 years old while in the movie theater watching Homeward Bound, I fell in love and knew before the movie was even over that I just HAD TO HAVE a Himalayan cat just like Sassy. Been a “cat snob” ever since!! My first girl Eve lived 18 years, my guy Tuc just turned 2! Both of them, spoiled rotten!
Chinese food. I want authentic old school Chinese food…not california-tex-mex-asian-fusion. But its Phoenix,AZ. So its Pei Wei, P.F. Chang, and a few non-chain Chinese kitchens.
Nothing.
@yakkoTDI not even VWs?
@moonhat Nope.
NOOOO FLAVORED COFFEE!
NO!
NO!
Blech!
Beer, Can’t stand warm beer.
If you complain about what someone else is drinking, or free beer, you are a tool.
What, no multiple selection?
Peer reviewed research.
None of the above. Enjoy what you enjoy! Like what you like!
@melonscoop You forgot the third line: “life is good”
Snobby about furniture. Hate going into million dollar homes or 5 star hotels to find wobbly ikea type chairs, fake leather, or partial board end tables. Where did appreciation for fine woodwork, dovetail joints and real brass upholstery tacks go?
@openwater Nnnngh particle board! OK, I’m snobby about a few things. But ffs, why does anyone do particle board? It’s a commitment to obsolescence.
@brainmist @openwater Most of our furniture is antiques. LR is what my grandparents bought in 1929 and we had restored. Everything particle board (at times that was all we could afford) has been dumpstered many times over.
@openwater @ybmuG It saddens me that we’ve seen such a swing from well built to cheaply built. And mostly because a lot of people could have inherited well built…but didn’t want to.
@brainmist @openwater Cheap is necessary if you want to constantly swap it out as styles change. It’s just more evidence of the epidemic of narcissism.
@brainmist @openwater @ybmuG Particle board is used as a core because it’s considered a 3-dimensionally stable material. There’s much less concern of it deforming due to time and environmental changes whereas natural wood can warp or even split over time.
More importantly, being a product manufactured from scrap wood, it’s very cost effective. Also, there’s no concern about the quality from one tree to another.
@brainmist @openwater @ybmuG I have a bunch of inherited, well built quality antique furniture. I have been offered, and declined, a bunch of other well built, quality antique furniture that was ugly or uncomfortable or both. Good quality, modern furniture is so expensive, it makes particle board furniture seem like a reasonable option until you have to replace it 3 years…
@brainmist @openwater @vfrdirk @ybmuG I have not inherited much furniture. Where it makes sense we’ve been buying generally well-built used or antique wood furniture.
But for upholstered furniture, I think a reasonable argument can be made for the cheap Ikea-type furniture.
I have young kids. They make a lot of messes. The cover on my Ikea sofa is completely removable. We washed the first one loads of times, and finally replaced it a couple of years ago. And I love that I can break the sofa down to pieces small enough that I can move them all by myself. In the last decade or so I have moved that sofa between four different residences, and it sets back up just fine every time. I can’t move a normal sofa without help.
I would be much more stressed about my son eating butter explosion popcorn on the sofa if it were something nice and expensive.
@brainmist @narfcake @openwater @ybmuG good answer, Narfy!
@Limewater That’s a good point. My dogs have, over the years, weaseled their way onto furniture (mostly second hand) and I’ve gone in for some of those washable, watery resistant bed covers under a sheet to contain the stinky. Because I’m fancy!
@openwater My wife’s step-dad is long retired and one of his hobbies is restoring wood furniture. He picks up “distressed” but reasonably solid older pieces from thrift stores or from folks who just want to get rid of an old piece, takes them home and rebuilds and refinishes them. Then he usually gives them to friends or family. Our house is full of his projects, to the point that we have no place left to take more. I’m typing this while sitting at the dining room table he gave us. Kind of a simple, clean ~100-plus-year-old table, solid oak and beautifully refinished.
@brainmist all my furniture is from ikea so most of it is particle board. the reasons are:
1b. modern looking furniture in wood is prohibitively expensive, for me
i’ve been shopping with ikea for a long time and, while their website and customer service are some of the worst, the products are overall excellent for the style and pricepoint. (but you will get what you pay for if you buy the cheapest options for sure!) the only reason i’ve replaced ikea furniture over the years is because i’ve moved and i didn’t want to try to disassemble things and/or pay to rent a moving truck/hire movers. (and the last time, because of a fire & subsequent water & fireman axe damage.)
but, one big caveat is that we don’t have kids or pets so our stuff doesn’t see much wear and tear.
@jerk_nugget All valid reasons. If you do get to the point of looking at antique/vintage, some of the mid century stuff is very simple and streamlined. But not something to haul upstairs!
@brainmist yes, i LOVE mid century furniture! i hope to one day live in a one level home and be able to invest in some of it. absolutely dreamy stuff.
Beer and coffee
@connorbush Have I got the write up for you
@connorbush I came to say the same thing. But I’m snobby in different ways.
With coffee, I’ll drive miles out of my way for good coffee over mediocre coffee. But if it’s late at night and the only thing that’s open is a truck stop with day-old coffee, I’ll cover it in so much creamer it’s barely even coffee anymore (and i consider creamer a heresy with good coffee) and drink it anyway.
With beer, I like trying locals as much as possible and generally know what types i like. But if all that’s available is something that gets sold by the case, I’ll just not drink anything.
TL;DR Bad coffee is better than no coffee, but life’s too short for had beer.
@connorbush Although I definitely can appreciate a good beer, my cheapness always wins out.
@connorbush @DoctorOW let’s hear it!
@connorbush @smyle One of the gas station/truck stops I stopped at somewhere had cinnamon and other things to sprinkle on your coffee. That makes less than stellar coffee palatable, especially for those of us who like coffee black.
/image batteries
/image refrigerator
@shahnm what batteries are you snobby about?
@00 You know… Batteries. And refrigerators. But mostly batteries chilled in refrigerators.
@00 @shahnm Can’t be all that snobby with Amazon Basics…
I am snobby about grammar. I cannot stand slang. I cannot stand the way my fellow Americans mangle the English language!
@AuntMean67 Word!
@AuntMean67 OPE!
@AuntMean67 That is what I came here to say!
@AuntMean67 @katbyter @brainmist @ybmuG
Language and punctuation, although I do like some slang. I get bothered by words becoming too overused, or word pronunciation fads, like the glottal stop that a lot of younger people suddenly started using - it’s “important”, not “impor-uhnt”, unless you’re a Cockney!!
@AuntMean67 I used to be snobby about grammer and spelling until I read a tweet 10 years ago that said that being snobby about grammer and spelling is classist. That tweet changed my life. Being snobby about grammer and spelling is classist. Realizing this, I stopped. You can too.
And yes, I spelt it wrong on porpoise.
@AuntMean67 I agree. It just stands out like a sore thumb and can’t be ignored.
@00 @AuntMean67 Being snobby IS classist, but I think everyone is snobby (or should I say snobbish) about something.
Even if it’s how much more socially conscious they are than other people.
@00 @AuntMean67 A friend had a borderline literate boss. In the shop they had a can of All Porpoise Grease, and a can of Zinc Primate Paint, among other spelling innovations.
@00 100%. i used to care about spelling and grammar but don’t anymore for the same reason. it’s often racist, ableist, and at times antisemitic as well. plus, language evolves. literally every generation creates new words, slang, and ways of speaking that stick in the craw of somebody older. which is why we don’t speak the same way as people from 1620, or even 1920. personally i love learning about new words and their origins, hearing about local lexicons, etc.
@00 @jerk_nugget
There is something to be said about an author’s attention to such details like grammar and spelling.
If an author doesn’t care about the reader and demonstrates their lack of mastery in their chosen means of communication, why would the reader be expected to care about whatever vapid drivel the author excretes upon the medium?
If you see something, say something. Don’t condone or excuse laziness or incontinence of the written word through your silence, and therefore acceptance.
@00 @jerk_nugget That’s different from grammar and spelling.
Those are givens. They don’t change. You can colloquialize grammar, but that doesn’t make it correct. It just shows laziness and/or being un/under educated.
@Tadlem43 what’s different? the thread and OP both discuss a strong dislike for slang and certain pronunciation(s), which are directly tied to spelling and grammar and which my comment was in direct response to. slang enters into the dictionary all the time. even putting dictionaries aside, every generation has unique ways of speaking in both tone and vocabulary content. i’m sure various ancestors would be appalled at our crass interpretations of the queen’s english or whatever. but who cares? “proper” ways of speaking is always going to be a social construct, and as such a moving target with its own inherent failures that some of us are seeking to outgrow.
to put it bluntly, “correctness” as it concerns language in the US is rooted in white supremacy. suggesting someone is lazy and uneducated because it wouldn’t earn an A+ in a high school english class is exactly the stereotype born of such things and it’s a pointless and often baseless conclusion. if you don’t like it that’s certainly your prerogative, but judging someone on the way they speak or write ain’t my bag.
@mike808 what author? you’ll have to be more specific. plenty of authors write “properly” according to the arbitrary rules of the english language and it remains vapid drivel. i’d rather watch paint dry than read hemingway for instance. for how many paragraphs does he need to explain each blade of grass to simply convey a pleasant spring day, or does he not care enough about his reader(s) to get it over with already? but, obviously many people have and continue to enjoy his writing. so, live and let live. nobody’s talking about firing all the editors of the new yorker or your local paper, or at least i’m not. i’m simply speaking on how better to get on with our fellow humans, and to stop needlessly gatekeeping something so foolish and fluid as language.
if i can understand someone, i truly don’t care if there’s a typo or a run-on sentence or they’ve mixed up their homophones. if i legitimately can’t understand someone and it’s imperative that i do, i ask a clarifying question. otherwise, i keep it moving.
@00 I’m definitely from a lower class family. If my class is showing it means the “common joe” has great grammar and spelling.
@00 I’m curious to know if you are snobbish about really strong foreign accents? Are you one of those people who say “they shouldn’t be here if they can’t speak English?” Their English isn’t good and at times is nonexistent, But at least they try.
@00 @AuntMean67 I love accents!! Keeps life interesting
@00 @AuntMean67 I think I was the one talking about pronunciation, and I specifically meant fashionable affectations, not accents or dialects. My mother is Japanese, so I’m certainly not going to be intolerant about a foreign accent. What I mean is the kind of thing you suddenly hear all over just because some celebrity talks a certain way or who knows what. And the one I mentioned is something that my upper-middle-class Caucasian coworkers suddenly started doing, which is to replace consonants with a kind of “uh” sound - so " moun-uhn" instead of " mountain, and “ki-uhn” instead of kitten. But if that’s how someone grew up speaking that’s different - like Cockney Brits!
Sorry, that’s really long, but I just wanted to be clear, I hope I was.
@00 @Kyeh Yes. Sorry. I get really snobby when I hear things like “can I axe you a question” or “what I gonna say” and horrible grammar like that. THAT is my snobbishness.
@00 @AuntMean67 I had a friend who had his MA and worked as a PR person for the Air Force, and he could not pronounce “nuclear” - he always said “noo-cue-lar”. Grr!
It bothers me way more when TV news people or official types speak poorly. And I actually think the whole “insisting on proper English is classist” argument is patronizing.
I picked coffee, about which I am rather particular when making it myself.
Having said that, when there is coffee already around, as long as it is not overly dehydrated (aka cooked or burned) I will likely drink it and not completely hate it.
@baqui63 Seconded! I’m a home-roasted, fresh-ground, espresso making coffee guy at home. But that fresh pot of automatic drip at someone’s house that I didn’t have to fuss over tastes pretty good, too!
Snobbery.
I’m the absolute best snob.
Bikes. Mmmm, BMW motorcycles. They just feel so good to ride.
@BethanyAnne gotta agree there.
@BethanyAnne careful, you’ll hurt my '78 Honda Hawk’s feelings… *I wish I could afford a BMW.
@Oneroundrobb I shouldn’t have afforded one. I shoulda never touched it.
@BethanyAnne @Oneroundrobb I agree with motorcycles, but the BMW’s I’ve ridden haven’t persuaded me.
Pizza
from New Haven, CT
I do not know if is really snobbish, it’s just I can be very particular about food and have problems sharing with someone who does not appreciate the good stuff. Not that it has to be expensive or fancy. I have had amazing two dollar breakfast sandwiches.
Take pizza for example. There are millions of different variations and places to buy but Domino’s always sucks. How the fuck is that shit the best selling pie in America?
@ponagathos For the same reason that Little Ceasar’s has survived for so long on “hot-n-now”.
@ybmuG Where are you? In Philly, it is “hot n ready.”
@ponagathos HA! Lived in MI for a bit and there was a burger joint called Hot-n-Now. Must have crossed my wires.
Though correcting the phrase does nothing to invalidate the point.
@ybmuG I hear you. I thought maybe they varied the advertising by region.
@ponagathos dominoes DOES always suck, every time. I have no idea why my husband orders it.
@ponagathos @ybmuG
@ponagathos
I actually like dominos. There’s one pizza I order from there and it’s really good.
@blaineg @ybmuG I did like that bacon wrapped deep dish bacon pizza they had at one point…because bacon. One slice and I was done. I think they bring it back from time to time.
@moonhat @ponagathos Until I had Dominoes as an adult I didn’t think it was possible to make bad pizza.
@InnocuousFarmer @moonhat I know right. I have had good pizza and bad pizza but I think Domino’s is the only Pizza that I’ve actually thrown out.
@InnocuousFarmer @moonhat @ponagathos Domino’s, the RavioliOs of pizza
Water. I am a water snob. I will drink tap if there is no other options. Ill have to be dying of thirst to drink from a hose. Otherwise triple filter me please. At the very least, a cold Brita will not make me happy, but it’ll do.
@goldnectar So, you do like minerals in your water? My family tested me with several different bottled waters and I could identify them all correctly. I assume it is the mineral content that I am picking up. I love Fiji but hate Evian. I like Dasani but not Aquafina. Fine with Brita filtered Philly water but despise the tap water at the shore.
@goldnectar
Literally scrolled through looking for just this statement. My brother works for culligan, so I’m fortunate enough to have a reverse osmosis. After over a decade of drinking filtered, delicious h2o, tap water literally hurts my throat. Gross.
@goldnectar @ponagathos wooder
@goldnectar I’ve been drinking well water at home for the last 30 years. I can barely choke down the chlorinated sludge that comes from the city pipes.
@goldnectar @macromeh Do you know why they charge so much for bottled water?
What’s Evian spelled backwards?
@blaineg @macromeh No worries here. I use a filtration system and my hydro flask. That Evian comment is quite interesting, however.
@goldnectar I have well water and it’s so good. I’d rather die of dehydration than to drink city water.
I used to work for a closure packaging company who had to frequently “taste/smell” test bottled water in which they replaced with their water closures for the originals to test for lingering residue from the base resins and environmental factors like smoke and other airborne particles. They included me every time and I hated it because I could taste/smell the metals/minerals in the various bottled waters and it grossed me out.
@goldnectar @punkynpye How’s that reverse osmosis affect the flavor? I might need one of those for safe drinking water, and it’d be a shame if it did what I expect it to do and sucked out all the minerally smoothness.
@goldnectar @macromeh
Growing up with delicious well water is why I got the reverse osmosis in the first place. The very first time I tasted chlorinated city water, I literally spit it out. I thought it was a prank! Who can drink that swill? I drink over a gallon of water a day, so I’m particular about the flavor.
Reverse osmosis tastes like delicious well water, IMHO.
@goldnectar @punkynpye We had a softener and RO filter at the old house and took it with us when we moved, but the water is so good straight out of the ground at the new place I never bothered to install the filter, even though I plumbed for it during construction.
Nearly everything, I’m insufferable.
Any and everything I consume. I refuse to drink anything with corn syrup or artificial sweeteners in them.
@edguyver14 what’s worse is that I feel the need to explain to people that why I don’t drink soda or buy fancy tonic. “HFCS makes me feel jittery because it spikes my metabolism.” The lady at my kids’ bus stop doesn’t need to know that. But she knows because I told her.
audio quality. (also coffee and beer)
@spacemart Yep. Quality cans are amazing when driven with a good amp. I also have some Martin Logans at home that I really enjoy. Well worth the investment.
@spacemart @tweezak Quality cans is misleading to. In my experience the correlation between a quality and price can be a little loose. There are some really nice headphones that are surprisingly affordable.
@DoctorOW @spacemart True. Audio Technica makes some good stuff. Also Grados $100 SR-80 I think is amazing for the price. My problem was that I was looking for sealed headphones which are much harder to make with great sound reproduction and therefore end up usually costing quite a bit. I listened to several and ended up with some Denons.
@DoctorOW @tweezak i’m actually fine with apple earpods because it’s mainly podcasts for that. but music i just want some decent speakers. my favorite stereo at home is an old marrantz with even older speakers. electro voice that are 60 years old sound better than much newer klipsh!
@DoctorOW @spacemart @tweezak
I spent some bucks in really nice cans (Senns) a while back.
Only to discover that I love them, but don’t use them. Which made me feel a little idiotic. The cans are on loan to a desk-working, music driven person at the moment.
Most of my listening is on the go, and us audiobooks and podcasts. For those, LG Tones are perfect.
All this made me feel a little idiotic.
@DoctorOW @spacemart I love old stereo equipment. A friend of mine had some old Klipsch Cornwalls that were awesome! Another roomate built a pair of speakers designed from an expired Klipsh horn patent. Those could fill a huge space with sound. If you’ve never checked out audiogon.com you should. Lots of cool stuff there.
VAN GOGH! MANGO! TANGO! AWESOME!
I selected coffee… but… is it snobbery if there’s just the one kind that tastes RIGHT to you?
not burnt, not like you’re licking an ashtray, or accidentally drinking from a soda can someone’s been using for an ash tray…
if not wanting to taste those things makes me snobby, well…just call me Thurston. and if someone could bring Lovey and I a sandwich, we’re just famished.
@earlyre Nope. Mine’s a medium roast Tanzanian peaberry. Strong, but not bitter, with a really mild aftertaste.
@smyle wow… that’s REALLY specific…
mine’s much More pedestrian…
Tim Hortons. I get one(XL DD) on my lunch break, and buy their grounds for my home brewing. (aka, 5 am before I leave for work)
now for the home brew, I get Whole milk from a small local dairy. grass fed, just barely pasteurized, and non-homogenized.
gotta shake it up before pouring, the cream does separate.
if anyone in the NW OH region is interested…
http://knuevenfarms.com
they offer farm pickup, free delivery* within Putnam and it’s Surrounding Counties, and they are also regularly at the Toledo Farmers Market
*free delivery for orders $15 and over, $5 Delivery charge for orders under $15
@earlyre I’m not sure it counts as snobby if you simply dislike bad coffee… I’ll happily drink anything that’s minimum-good, but like, McDonalds/parents/the shop/gas station, or how Starbucks used to be, doesn’t even pass the lowest bar.
Usually if I can order an Americano I can be pretty sure it’ll be fancy enough that somebody will have bothered to some minimal degree and I’ll like it. Pour over is good too though.
At home I roast my own coffee, probably do a very mediocre job, but it’s close enough.
I can’t help being a bike snob. I’ve been a bike geek my entire life. I love my carbon road bike and would love to get some carbon wheels for it but I just can’t justify the $$. Especially since I’m not riding a lot right now.
Sub sandwiches.
Local deli’s are best but Jersey Mike’s will suffice when necessary.
@ebatch I’ve eaten JMs once or twice and the problem was the bread. It was too soft and had little character. I might try again if I have to (and I’m in New Jersey!).
@ebatch I’m not a snob on sub sandwiches, but i will go hungry rather than eat at the abomination that is Subway.
I’m snubbery about shrubbery. Native local flora makes me happy, otherwise let it die.
@hchavers
I don’t really consider myself a beer snob, but… Well… How many of y’all have spent $50+ on a single bottle of beer?
I still start my beach/river days by shotgunning a tall boy of PBR, though.
Also, I know it’s not recreationally legal down there in Texas, yet, but “weed” should have been an option.
/giphy yet
Is it still snobbery if I know what I like but don’t care what you’re having? Then, yes.
@2many2no this is the best way to sum it up. thank you.
The fact that people lurking in a deep discount remainders website are all proud of being “snobs” really says something. I don’t know what, but definitely something.
@phaedrusnyc There’s definitely such a thing as thrifting snobbery.
Scotch. Must be 12 yo or older, single malt. Beer, I am just particular, liking the local microbrewery. Coffee just has to be hot and fresh. Books, not movies.
@olperfesser Same with Scotch
Espresso
The way my towels are folded!
I’m snobby about almost everything, but I try hard not to be. Just because I like something a certain kind of way doesn’t make me better than someone who doesn’t care.
Honestly, caring about the temperature of the water that you use to brew coffee is fucking annoying. Having thousands of LPs is a burden–physically and emotionally. Knowing how to get a great seer on home made seitan, using your well-seasoned cast iron skillet is stupid (but delightful)!
Maybe being not snobby about being snobby is the new snobby?
What? I should be talking to a therapist instead of posting this on a daily deal site comment board? Oh. Whoops. Sorry about that.
@00 Best-of-the-thread
Now you have something else to be snobby about - thread comments.
@00 Hah, okay - you said it yourself!
@00 Actually, I was thinking that I am fussy about certain things but I don’t care if other people are - is that still snobbery? Like I want my cold drinks to be ICY, and my hot food to be really hot, stuff like that - but I don’t look down on someone less particular. In fact I can envy them for not being so finicky. So I can relate…
@Kyeh My question, too. I’m finicky about a lot of things that I use myself, but tastes differ, and I really don’t care that other people want different things. I want nothing in my coffee but (preferably freshly) ground organic beans and filtered water, but if a visitor wants other stuff in coffee, I’m fine with that. Or I’m fine with them adding anything I have on hand. If they expect me to make a run to the store to pick up some ingredient that they are finicky about, they will be out of luck.
@rockblossom Yeah, I choose to believe that it’s snobbery if you look down on the other person’s choices or usage, whatever. So I guess I am snobbish about language but not about food. And only about language in context, because I expect the newspaper to be properly written and punctuated, but not necessarily a chat forum.
Tequila, purses, shoes, perfume, shall I go on. Maybe I am just picky?
@tinamarie1974
Sports teams? Esp hockey teams?
: )
@f00l mmmmaaaayyyyyybbbbeeeee. You know me so well!!
/giphy St Louis Blues
@f00l oh I WAS THERE!!!
Inflatable repair techniques.
@PooltoyWolf
/image love doll
@shahnm Not quite! LMAO
I’m snobby about my level of indifference to how others choose to do things.
I make the best Buffalo sauce
@Hrairoo But not real Buffalo sauce, unless you are from Buffalo, or you make it with real buffaloes.
@rockblossom it’s perfect. The perfect Buffalo sauce, regardless of where I am or am not from, regardless of the ingredients, it’s perfect
@Hrairoo Perfect answer!
honestly…i can’t think of anything. in terms of what other people are doing, definitely nothing. (i.e. i don’t feel judgey about what other people enjoy.)
but on a personal level? i feel like there must be something but i’m drawing a blank. there are obviously things i prefer to other things but…it’s not snobbery based i don’t think? like i prefer certain brands, for instance, but it wouldn’t faze me to go somewhere that didn’t have them, and i don’t feel any urge to casually “recommend” them to others etc.
@jerk_nugget Not even grilled cheese sandwiches?
@Kyeh good one!!
i am particular but…i will totally eat any grilled cheese with a smile. well, any that someone cooked for me out of the kindness of their heart, anyway. now if i paid for a subpar grilled cheese…well, i’d probably still say nothing about it but inside i would be unhappy and i wouldn’t get a second one
@jerk_nugget I agree!
Manual transmissions.
But per the meta-discussion above, that’s for me. Drive what you want, but you can have my manual when you pry it from my cold, dead hand.
Or toes.
I don’t really think I’m snobby about anything. I know there’s stuff I like a certain way and other people have their same things too. I don’t look down at at people or judge them for not doing things my way. I could honestly care less, their way is not interfering with how I do my shit so wtf does it matter.
Music. Absolutely. No poseurs allowed. That means YOU, Morrissey, Reznor, Yorke.
@curtw4
Poseurs. Huh.
Always so easy to discern. Yeah.
@curtw4 @f00l
Yup.
/youtube madonna vogue
@curtw4 Reznor is a poseur?
@f00l So watching this Robert Johnson piece led me to browsing around online about it and I found this article:
https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/devil-and-robert-johnson.htm
And I found this great piece of dialog with some wonderful language - “noisin” - which I love; and I just had to put it in here because we’ve been talking about language and so on.
And I guess it’s “noising”. But I wanted to make the distinction between a really neat regional way of speaking vs. just sloppy bad grammar or affectation etc. And I am probably addressing this to the wrong person, since it was others who took issue with my particular snob attitudes - but I also just thought this story about Robert Johnson was so cool.
@Kyeh
Re language, personal prefs:
I want “correct” language in official places. And I hope “the educated” either use “correct language” where that counts, or deviate deliberately.
If someone is casual about clarity, I hope they have an excellent reason for that, and I hope this muddling up is unusual for them.
But street and casual and non -conforming usage is fine also. Just not in official docs etc.
Cooking.
Cider
Bargin websites. I only buy at the best.
(OK meh, I’ll let you know where you can mail the check.)
@eeterrific
…pretty sure they have your address already…
Condiments. I cannot consume off brand ketchup or mayo, dressings, etc.
Weed
So many things, but I don’t impose (or even share, unless it comes up) my beliefs with others.
So feel free to use your tea bags or infusers, drink your ice cold Bud Light, use your Meh knife,or listen to your sound bar around me, and I won’t say a word.
Just don’t say shit about people with better tastes than you. Don’t claim your $30 Forschner knife is just as good as expensive ones you’ve never touched and don’t say “I am not an audiophile” to defend your crappy sound bar.
And absolutely don’t correct my pronunciation of place names you’ve never been to. Or graphics formats.
@craigthom Its gif, dammit, not gif. Say gif right!
Ketchup on hot dogs. Since moving to illannoy so close to chicago, there seems to be a snobbery about hot dogs and their condiments being shoved down your throat almost anywhere you go. Can’t have ketchup on a hot dog. Over and over. They won’t put it on if you ask, they don’t keep ketchup at the tables. Act like they’re better than you if you want ketchup.
So I get ketchup on every hot dog (did that before moving here). Even bought mcdonalds dogs and burger king dogs when they had them because by default they came with ketchup. Suck on that, chicago dog snobs, you and your fluorescent green relish.
@duodec
Wonder what they’d have to say about putting not ONLY ketchup, BUT, putting ketchup, mustard, relish AND onions on MY darn hotdog? Besides YUM yum YUM!
Wasn’t Snobby was the name of Harry Potter’s little elf friend that liked to hide socks?
KuoH
I’ve always identified as a “cat snob”! YUP, that’s what I said, CAT SNOB!
I grew up not liking cats because living in the country we had to keep feral cats out from underneath our house. Actually, I believe the “real truth” is that my mom didn’t like cats and she passed it on to us kids!! At 25 years old while in the movie theater watching Homeward Bound, I fell in love and knew before the movie was even over that I just HAD TO HAVE a Himalayan cat just like Sassy. Been a “cat snob” ever since!! My first girl Eve lived 18 years, my guy Tuc just turned 2! 
Both of them, spoiled rotten! 
@Lynnerizer I am one too!
Have you posted pictures of yours?
Chinese food. I want authentic old school Chinese food…not california-tex-mex-asian-fusion. But its Phoenix,AZ. So its Pei Wei, P.F. Chang, and a few non-chain Chinese kitchens.